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An answer to the eight quæries propounded by the House of Commons, to the assembly called divines, sitting at Westminster, April. 22. 1646 never to this day by them answered, nor they called to an accompt by the Parliament, for their ignorance or negligence therein.
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Barber, Edward, d. 1674?
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AN ANSWER TO THE Eight Quaeries propounded by the House of Commons to the Assembly called Divines sitting at Westminster April 22. 1646. never to this day by them Answered nor they called to an accompt by the Parliament for their ignorance or negligence therein Psal 31.6 I have hated them that regard lying vanities but I trust in the Lord. Jonah 2.8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy Psal 82.6.7 I have said ye are Gods and all of you are Children of the most high But ye shall dye like men and fa l like one of the Princes Jer. 5.30 A wonderfull and horrible thing is committed in the Land the Prophets prophesie lyes and the Priests receive gifts in their hands and my people delight therein what will ye then do in the end thereof Cor. 1.14.36 What came the word of God out from you or came it unto you only Gal. 4.16 Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth 2 Cor. 4.2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty not walking in craftinesse nor handling the word of God deceitfully but by manifestatioÌ„ of the truth coÌ„mending our selves to every mans Conscience in the sight of God Col. 2.8 Beware least any man spoil you through Philosophy and vain deceit c. 1 Tim. 6.20 Oh Timothy keepe that which is coÌ„mitted to thy trust avoiding profane vain bablings By Edward Barber Freeman of England Citizen and Marchant-Taylor of London 1648. To those Noble Senators the chosen Stewards and Servants of the freemen of England the Commons assembled in Parliament with that Right Noble Generall the Lord Fairfax and Lieut. Gen. Crumwell RIGHT HONORABLE TAking into consideration the Quaeries so long since propounded by your Honours to the Assembly called Divines at Westminster desiring their Answers therein as once Nebucadnizer did of his dream from his Magicians Astrologâ—rs Sorcerers and Caldeans whom he had chosen and to whom was appointed a dayly provision of the Kings meate and of the wine which he drank Dan. 2. That so being nourished at his Table at three years end they might stand before the King But they being called forth to satissie the Kings desire in telling c. as Ier. 51 6.7 compared with Isaia 21.9 and Micha 2.10.11 Arise ye and depart for this is not your rest because it is polluted it shall destroy you even with a sore destruction if a man walking in the spirit of falshood do lye saying I will prophesie unto thee of wine and strong drink he shall even be the prophet of this people compared with 2. Cor. 6.14 to 18. and Revel 18.4 come out of her my people that ye be not partakers of her sinnes and that ye receive not of her plagues Now as the people of God were thus called forth of temporall and spirituall Babylon so the instruments by which the Lord will do this great work shall be by dispised persons that so the great wise men of the world may stay themselves and wonder who are blind make you blind instead of this they render it cry ye out and cry Isai 29.9 to 15. also that the whole glory may be given to God only not to men and as for such as have received their Call and Ordination from the beast or no calling at all as some now pretends if ever they should be converted and to submit unto the Order and Government of King Iesus in the Gospell way yet will these be the unsittest for the carrying forth of that rich treasure of the Gospel they having formerly sworn themselves Servants unto Antichrist and therefore will be but as the Gibiouites who although by their craft had saved their lives yet were by Josuah that glorious Tipe of Christ appointed to be hewers of wood and drawers of water Josuah 9. or Lovies Sonnes Sam. 1.2.36 who at that time when the Lord shall raise up his faithfull Priest shall come and crouch for a peece of silver or a morsell of bread saying put me I pray thee into one of the Priests Offices that I may eat a pecee of bread or with those Merchants of the earth who when the Kings and Magistrates of the earth who have committed fornication with the whore and lived deliciously at her overthrow shall bewail her and lament for her Revel 18.9 then also shall those Merchants of the earth weepe and mourn for no man buyeth their Merchandize any more vers 10. This will cause them as the Jewes Acts 22.22 to discover their madnesse who east dust upon their heads so these crying weeping wayling saing alas alas that great City wherein were made rich all that had Ships in the Sea by reason of her costlinesse for in one howre is she made desolate vers 19. and vers 20. the Church holy Messengers and Prophets are called forth to rejoyce over her for God hath avenged them on her when all profit and delight is taken away from her verse 22.23 the Reason is layd down vers the last because in her was found the blood of Prophets and of Saints and of all that were slain upon the earth oh that therefore your honours would give liberty for publike disputes that thereby the truth might be tryed and that there might be some time allowed after the publike Exercises is done wherein the hearers those whose mouthes the Lord by his spirit shall open might have liberty to adde to what is delivered or contradict if irronious and that there might be some places that are vacant as Paules or the like appointed for such exercises and tryalls of the truth according to Iohn 1.4.1 where he saith believe not every spirit but trie the spirits whether they are of God because many false Prophets are gone out into the world and Thes 1.5.21 The Apostle exhorts the Saints to prove all things and to hold fast that which is good which cannot be done in that way that is practised by them they tying up the mouthes of all but themselves by their Antichristian power and practice that therefore the Kings of the earth and you the Majestrates would be wise and consider your wayes know as it was once said to Saul as he was going to Damascus having received Authority from the High Priests to persecute and hale to prison all that called upon the name of the Lord Jesus Saul Saul why persecutest thou me it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks so it will one day be said to all those that persecute Christ in his Members which through the subtelty of Antichrist is usually done under the name of Heriticks and Sectaries as in Queen Maries dayes c. for know as the Prophet David saith Psal 2.2 to 6. although the Kings of the earth set themselves and the Rulers take Councel together against the Lord and against his Christ saying let us break his bonds asunder and cast away his cords from us but he that sits in Heaven shall laugh the Lord shall have them in
from Christ and his Church and not by Command and Authority from Pope Councel Synod or civill Magistrate the Church of Christ being his spirituall Kingdom consisting of a company of Saints or holy people Rom. 1.7 Cor. 1.1.2 Pet. 1.1.16 called out of the world John 15.19 Rev. 5.9 By the preaching of the Gospel Mat. 28.19.20 Mark 16.15.16 by a free voluntary consent Ps 18.43.44.110.3 Acts 2.41 13.48 17.11 entring into Covenant Psal 50.5 Zep. 2.1 Acts 3.23 to 26. Heb. 8.8.9 to discharge duties to God one to another Iohn 4.24 Phil. 3.3.1 Pet. 2.5 1 Cor. 12 12. to 28. putting on Christ by Baptisme or dipping Gal. 3.26.27 for ye are all the Children of God by faith in Christ Jesus for as many of you as have been dipt into Christ have put on Christ compared with Ephes 4.4.5 There is one body one spirit even as ye are called in one hope of your calling one Lord one faith one dipping one God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in you all This is Christs spirituall house under the new Testament whereof he is Lord as Hab. 2.20 Heb. 3 6. head Eph. 1.22.23 King Isa 33.22 and Law giver James 4 12. and prophet Deut. 18.15 Mat. 17.5 Being that Priest Alter and Sacrifice by which all that believe and obey are for ever sanctified and perfected Heb. 10.14 and 5.8 9. for it is not the voice of the Church much lesse the voice of the Synod or Parliament that we are to hearken unto in spiritnall worship but Christs voice in the Church and that in all things whatsoever he shall say unto us Tim. 1.3.15 he speaking in his Servants as Luke 10.16 he that heareth you heareth me and he that heareth me heareth him that sent mee These where ever gathered together under Heaven in the name of Christ according to his order consisting of Jewes or Gentiles Col. 1.18 have power from him their head to receive in deale with or cast out of the Church by the only Lawes and Statutes of King Jesus heir only King and Law-giver as Isai 9 6. and 33.22 Acts 2.41.42 Mat. 48.15 to 20. and 1 Cor. 5.4.5 and 2.2.4 to 9. They being under Christ their King the freest Independant Corporation or state under Heaven Iohn 8.36 If the Sonne therefore shall make you free ye shall be free indeed Cor. 1.3.5 6 7. compared with Isai 2.17 The Lord alone shall be exalted in that day Now the parochiall Churches or Elderships that are appointed by Statute Lawes or Ordinances of Parl. and thereby forced thereunto cannot be Jure Divino Churches of Christ by his will and appointment but all the people of God are as truly called out of such Assemblies as out of Babylon of old to the free voluntary worship of the Gospell To the second quaerie I answer The Parish Churches or Assemblies being not gathered according to the Commission of Christ in that great Charter of the Gospell and by his Ministers and Servants but by the Authority of the civill Magistrate through the importunity of Austin the Monck sent over from Gregory the 7. from which roote and foundation the nationall Ministry now extant still retaines their Ordination having still kept their first state and constitution although reformed in divers particuler Doctrines whereby they cannot be Jure Divino Churches of Christ by his will and appointment but are constitutions of men through the subtilty of the man of sin or beast rising out of the earth to wit by his earthly inventions who by the slight of men and cunning craftinesse they lye in wait to deceive having 2. horns like a Lamb but speakes like a Dragon exercising all the power of the first beast c. Rev. 13.11 having a shew of wisdom in will worship and humility Col. 2.23 of whom the Apostle bids the Saints beware of being spoiled through their philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men after the Rudiments of the world and not after Christ in whom dwells the fulnesse of the God-head bodily and ye the Saints to wit believers dipt are compleat in him c. and Mat. 15.9 Christ saith in vain do they worship me teaching for Doctrines the Commandements of men from whence it appeares as the Churches so the Members also are none of them Jure Divino Members of any Church of Christ by his will and appointment To the 3. I answer for any supream Authority of Assemblies or Elderships viz. the Classicall provinciall or nationall whether they are Jure Divino or no. In all the Gospell I do not find any more jurisdiction of Churches over Churches then there is of brethren over brethren but the contrary is clearly proved Mat. 23.8.9 10. but be not ye called Rabby for one is your Master to wit Christ and all ye are brethren and call no man your Father upon the earth for there is but one your Father which is in Heaven be not called Doctors for one is your Doctor even Christ and Cor. 1.5 4 5. That Church of Corinth had power as to cast out the Incestious person so upon his Repentance to receive him in again without the authority of any other Church or any others contradiction James 2.1 he saith my brethren have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ the Lord of glory with respect of persons and Chap. 3.1 he saith my brethren be not many Masters knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation but this spirit of pride is no new thing for it began in the Disciples Luke 9.46 when there arose a reasoning amongst them which of them should be the greatest but Christ perceiving the thoughts of their hearts answereth them by setting a little Child in the midst of them to teach them humility there being too many now a dayes of their spirit v. 46. 47. 48 as he taught them against persecution vers 54.55 56. when they would have had sire come down from Heaven to consume the Samaritans saying ye know not of what spirit you are for the Sonne of man is not come to destroy mens lives but to save them c. Therefore these supream Assemblies are not Jure Divino by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ but are all by humane Authority not known in Scripture being against the freedom which every Church of Christ hath given them which they ought to injoy none being before or after another in their priviledge or prerogative which liberty and freedom every protestator and Covenanter is sworn to stand for and maintain To the 4. Concerning Appeales from Congregationall Elderships to the Classicall Provinciall and Nationall Assemblies The parishionall not being proved Iure Divino but of humane Authority appeales to them and from one unto another must needs be unlawfull Besides how contrary is this to the primitive practice as Acts 15. when there arose a difference about Circumcision in the Church of Antiochia they sent up to the Church at Ierusalem for