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A58652 An answer to several passages, citations or charges in a book lately publish'd by F. Bugg styled New Rome arraigned, &c. Being a short vindication of the Christian believers of Jesus of Nazareth, who are in derision termed Quakers, from the said aspersions S. D. 1694 (1694) Wing S13; ESTC R220303 9,494 16

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aforesaid Charge and he ought to repent of the same and it s well hoped he will not justifie himself in it nor any for him but condemn his weakness in so doing Objection 2. It s alledged G. W. indeavoured to cover and cloak gross Errors in divers Persons that are dead and gone as also in some that are yet living c. Answer G. W. is supposed to be guilty in part of the aforesaid Charge and it s hoped he may see his Weakness in so doing for the Christian Quaker in general testifieth against all Error not only in themselves but in all others in whomsoever it appears believing there is no more Affinity between Truth and Error than there is between Light and Darkness which are manifest to be too opposite Beings Objection 3. Whereas F. Bugg accuses G. W. of endeavouring to cover several Errors in Thomas Fitzwater Robert Young and Thomas Lloyd in Pensilvania whose unsound Expressions are as inserted in his New Rome Arraigned c. pag. 37. quoted by F. B. God that died in us and laid down thy Life in us and took it up again c. And that when Christ ascended he was separated from his Body That Faith in Christ without us as he died for our Sins and rose again was not necessary to our Salvation Answer The said T. Fitzwater R. Young and T. Lloyd are guilty of high Blasphemy for their so saying and are greatly to be blamed for their said unsound Expressions and all true Christian Quakers do condemn them for the same and do further declare That if G. W. or any others do wink or connive at the aforesaid blasphemous Expressions he or they are judged to be equally guilty with them But it s hoped or at least-wise desired that G. W. and others will give out a Christian Testimony against them for it and others for their speaking Irreverently of the Person of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ as also against their Persecution of G. Keith T. Budd and others It s here testified against by and on the behalf of all the true Christian Believers who are in scorn called Quakers notwithstanding the Ignorance of any pretended Member whose Folly ought not to be laid on the Body of the People whether he be a pretended Preacher or Hearer F. Bugg's three Charges against the Quakers cited and answered Charge the First says F. B. the Quakers denies him who was born of the Virgin Mary who suffered Death upon the Cross at Jerusalem who rose again the third Day and ascended into Heaven in the sight of the Galileans to be Christ the Saviour of the World Answer The aforesaid Charge is false as to his laying it on the general perhaps it may be undeniably true upon some that are either dead or alive for ought I know but I am sure he is much to be blamed for laying his Charge so general but the said Citation is owned professed and believed by all sincere Christian Quakers therefore his Charge must needs be false Notwithstanding if any pretended Member that may be dead or yet is in being did ever deny Jesus of Nazareth to be the Saviour of the World he is disowned for the same and deemed no less than guilty of Blasphemy in the superlative degree For the true Christian Quaker expects Salvation by no other but by and through Faith in the heavenly Man Christ Jesus therefore F. B.'s aforesaid Charge is false and groundless F. B.'s second Charge They deny says F. B. meaning the Quakers the Scriptures by speaking contemptuously of them c. Answer The whole Charge is false The true Christian Quaker owns the Scriptures and prefers them above all Books Papers or Epistles extant in the whole World and if any ignorant Man or Men hath at any time spoken contemptuously of them he is greatly to be blamed and the Christian Quaker denies Fellowship with all them that have in any measure so done F. B.'s third Charge That their Teachers are Deceivers of the People Favorers of Blasphemy and of a different Faith from the Apostles Primitive Christians and blessed Martyrs and Excusers of Idolatry and that their Doctrin tends to overthrow the Christian Faith Answer The Matter of the aforesaid Charge is a Lie upon them viz. all true Christian Quakers whom God has given the Gift of the Ministry their Work hath been and now is to undeceive the People and condem Idolatry and the Worshippers thereof to exhort them to the true Faith that 's agreeable to the Faith of the Apostles Primitive Christians and blessed Martyrs according as is testified in Scripture If any pretended Member that hath run before his Guide or run and the Lord never sent them hath at any time asserted a contrary Doctrine he is disowned for the same therefore the Error of any unsound or unqualified Person ought not to be charged in that manner as it seems to be viz. on the People in general The fourth Charge Whereas F. B. accuse● Josiah Coal and John Audland of giving Divine Attributes and Blasphemous Titles to G. Fox uncondemned and still justified or excused which said Titles F. B. hath largly cited divers times in divers of his printed Books for which reason the Citations are not here inserted being too well known to the World already Answer The said Josiah Coal and John Audland were guilty of Blasphemy in so doing and it was a wonderful great Error in them and a greater in G. Fox for not reproving them if he did not Its further granted That if any should Justifie the said J. Coal and J. Audland in their giving of it or G. F. in the not reproving it they are all deemed equally guilty of Blasphemy in a high degree both the Givers the Receiver and the Justifier for attributing that to a Mortal Corrupt Man which was due to none but to our supreme Lord and Master Christ Jesus the Saviour of the World F. Bugg 's fifth Charge wherein he accuseth E. Burrowgh George Fox Rob. Sandiland George Whitehead and others of giving base and scurrilous Language calling others ill Names c. Answer It s thought most requisite to return an Answer to the aforesaid Charge in these following Words viz. to call Names for or about Religion are no Christians of Christ's making See more at large W. Pen's Address to Protestants c. p. 242. therefore it s condemned by the true Christian Quaker in them that so do F. B's sixth Charge against G. Fox cited out of a Book entituled A Battledore for Teachers and Professors All Languages are to me says G. F. no more than Dust who was before Languages were Introduct Again p. 214. And next follows a few Words to the whole Matter by G. Fox who was before Confusion or the many Languages were Answer If G. Fox did hold the Doctrine of the pre-existence of human Souls when he writ the aforesaid Citation he is not so much to be blamed as he is if he spoke in reference to his
Body i. e. the Person of G. F. however we will pass by the foregoing Passage and proceed to as much brevity as may be As to those Passages in G. F's Battledore which are of no less import than high Blasphemy and he was much to be blamed for his said Error and the true Christian Quaker hereby condemneth him for it and any one that shall go about to cover him in that or any other blasphemous Errors believing several of his said Writings i.e. G. F's to contain divers Errors and unsound Notions and have done much hurt and stumbled many a seeking Soul And particularly it was his great weakness who was but a Shoe-maker and bred an illiterate Man to pretend to make a Battledore of divers Languages to teach People tu nos vos c. who understood not the Signification of either but by History and Tradition even as a Parrot can well talk so far as he hath been taught To conclude What Error or unsound Notion hath been found or may yet be found in any Book or Books written by G. F. or any others called Quakers whether the Persons or Authors be living or dead the said Weakness or Errors are testified against by the Christian Believers of the crucified Jesus who are in scorn called Quakers hoping God in his own due time will more and more refine his People and give them a true sight of their Evils that thereby they may forsake the same and be more and more delighted to walk in the Light of his dear Son and our Saviour Jesus Christ is the true desire of all sincere Christians who have no Life nor Delight in Strife or Contention c. F. B's Charge against James Parnel cited But to the End of all Disputes and Arguments I am come for before they were I am said James Parnel Answer It was great Blasphemy in J. Parnel for so saying and it s hereby denied and judged as a great weakness that proceeded through his Ignorance Whereas F. B. accuseth the Quakers for teaching That the Name of Jesus and Christ do not properly belong to the Body that suffered upon the Cross at Jerusalem Answer The Charge it self is false and groundless mark the Charge being laid upon the General the word Quakers being of the plural number includes a great part of them or least wise the whole Body of the People If any pretended Quaker hath at any time so taught he is culpable for the same it being contrary to the Doctrine of the Christian Quaker so to teach but do in opposition to the aforesaid Charge preach and teach as a necessary Article of Faith viz. to believe that Salvation is to be obtained through a living Faith in his Death Sufferings Resurrection and Ascension therefore the Name of Jesus and Christ do most properly belong to that Body that was born of the Virgin Mary notwithstanding the prejudice of F. B.'s aforesaid Charge who further continues to acense the Quakers with questioning who was the first Penman of the Scriptures whether Moses or Hermes To which it s answered The true Christian Quaker never so queried being well satisfied by Faith that Moses the Servant of God was the first Penman of Holy Writ It s farther noticed that F. B. cites a Passage out of Ed. B.'s Works c. p. 273. viz. The Sufferings of the People of God call'd Quakers in this Age are greater Sufferings and more Unjust than in the Days of Christ or of the Apostles or in any times since Answer It was an Error in E. Bu●●oughs for so saying The Christian Quaker denies it believing no Sufferings that can be inflicted upon p●or Mortals are so great neither ought any Sufferings or Persecution to be brought in competition with the Sufferings of our dear Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who hath taken our C●●se upon himself and became a Propitiation not for our sins only but for the sins of the whose World Oh what unexpressible Love was it that the Infinite ●●ing should condescend after such an admirable manner for the Restoration of his Finite Creat●●●● and by Faith in the Blood of this ●maculate Lamb the Christian Quaker expects Salvation and by no other Name that can be given under Heaven and do account it a great Blessing if the Lord should suffer Hardships and Tryals to come upon them in that his Love should be such as to count them worthy to suffer for his holy Names sake F. B.'s Charge against Isaac Pennington cited c. A Question to Prooff p. 33. Now the Scriptures do as expresly distinguish between Christ and the Garment which he wore between him that came and the Body in which he came between the Substance which was veiled and the Veil which veiled it there was plainly he and the body in which he came there was the outward Vessel and the inward Life this we certainly know and can never call the bodily Garment Christ Answer The foregoing Citation was an undeniable Error in Is Pennington which proceeded from a d●fect of his Understanding and it s not at all doubted but that if that worthy Man I. P. were in being he would readily retract the slip of his Pen not only in that Matter but in any other of the like Import therefore wherein any Man sees a weakness in anothers Speaking or a slip of his Pen let him take heed of falling into the like Evil. It s farther observed F. B. seems to condemn the Quakers as if they denied the very fundamental Articles of the Christian Faith notwithstanding his pretended distinction by saying the Foxonian Quakers as if all that had any love or respect for G. F. were guilty of denying the necessary Doctrin of the Christian Religion Note it cannot reasonably be supposed that such a great number of People as he F. B. calls Foxonians should be guilty of such great ●●●tors as he seems to charge them with not but it may be and is granted that some ignorant Man or Men may have asserted unsound Notions through their Ignorance but what is that to the purpose that he should charge the Ignorance of some particular Men upon such a Body of People both in England Scotland Ireland and America It s not to be questioned but many hundreds in those Parts of the World had a good respect for G. F. so it cannot be well conjectured that such a number as they must be should be guilty of the aforesaid Charge and I hope none will be so rash as to judge that they respected G. F. for any Weakness that he might be guilty of no it would be a great Mistake in any so to conclude it s not to be doubted but the wise and understanding Men among them that he calls Foxonians do hold and sincerely believe all the necessary Doctrins and Points thereof that are depending upon the Christian Religion notwithstanding F. B. hath published ten Articles written by our Christian Friend George Keith as if the Quakers did not hold the