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A78491 Certaine queres concerning the Booke of common prayer, and divers other articles of religion: propounded to a reverend divine of the City of London, and his modest reply unto the same, for the satisfaction of tender consciences; wherein these particulars are fully resolved, viz. 1. Whether the Booke of common prayer is to bee allowed by Gods Word or no? 2. Whether articles of religion agreed upon by a synod bee binding by Gods Word or no? 3. Whether we be tyed by the Gospel to the order and use of the Apostles in all things for matters of religion or no? 4. Whether there bee any right ministry or ecclesiasticall governement at this time in the Church of England or no? 5. Whether nothing may be added in point of worship but what is axactly [sic] commanded in Scripture or no? 6. Whether the clergie are to have the whole governement of the Church in matters ecclesiasticall or no? ... 18. Lastly, whether the King and State be bound to observe the iudiciall lawes of Moses in the puuishment [sic] of criminall offences or no? 1643 (1643) Wing C1736; Thomason E247_17; ESTC R206825 6,203 7

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CERTAINE QVERES CONCERning the Booke of Common Prayer and divers other Articles of Religion WHether the book intituled The booke of Common Prayer allowed by publike authority in this Realme is to be allowed in the Church of God by Gods word or no Answer Before I give my answere to this demand I must intreat you to observe this my Protestation that I have never as yet preached against the use of this booke of prayers and in mine owne booke extant in print I have once spoken openly to the good allowance thereof Secondly I resort to Common prayers and sometime being requested I do according as it is prescribed say the prayers If notwithstanding I shall be urged to speake now what I thinke whereby I may seeme to be called to a forme of inquisition as there is no law by which God hath tyed me of duety to be my owne accuser so I beseech you let this my answere rather witnesse my saithfulnesse to your demands then be preiudiciall to my hurt and hinderance Which thing as I most humbly crave so in perswasion of your favours I will answere boldly wherein I am enquired First the similitude that this booke hath with the forme of prayer which the Papists used I thinke declineth from the equity of those lawes Deut. 7. v. 25. The forma of the booke of common prayer Deut. 12. v. 30. Deut. 18. ver 9. Which thing our Fathers so much regarded in the primitive Church that their bookes are full of great complaints against all similitude to be had with the Gentiles yea the second councell of Braecca made at a decree that no Christian should have either Bay-leafes or greene Boughes in their houses because the Gentiles so accustomed And at this day all reformed Church in Fraunce Polenia Hel●itia Scotlande and other places have changed that forme of prayers Which prudency of all ages if we shall condemne the rebuke of the Apostle I thinke will touch us 1. Cor. 14. ver 36. Came the word of God out from you or came it else unto you onely Secondarily we have the Psalmes Venite Benedictus Magnificat Nure dimittis usuall in our ministry of which we can give no reason Nor I see no cause why we should more leave out the Aue Maria. And because of patting the Scriptures againe into the Epistles and Gospells which was not heard of before the dayes of popery I dare not avow that this is that reverent handling of the scripture and the right dividing of the word of truth which S●int Paul requireth 2. Tim. 2. ver 15. Thirdly the great inconveniency which hath followed this booke while it hath maintained an unlearned Ministry and made it thought sufficient to have the fervice read Wherein we have made the spirit of God to speake in vain That the Minister of the Gospell must be no young scholler but of necessity must be apt to teach 1 Tim. 3. ve 2. able to exhort with wholesome doctrine and able to reproove them that speake against i● Tit. 1. ver 9. This is another cause why I can not freely as I would gladly subscribe unto the booke that it hath all things allowable by the word of God Some other particular thinges the Bishops themselves doe confesse to be faulty 2. Quere Whether the Articles set downe by the Cleargy in a Synod and allowed by authority be according to Gods word or no Ans I confesse the Articles of faith and Sacraments as I am perswaded are good So I thinke of the Articles which are of traditions of an Oath before a Iudge of the civill Magistrate of the Doctrine taught in the Homilies c. Onely that one which is of consecration of Arch-bishops and Bishops I can by no meanes confesse it godly and according to the word of God 3. Quere Whether we be tyed by Gods word to the order and use of the Apostles and primitive Church in all things or no Ans Whatsoever was the usuall order of the Apostles no doubt we are bound unto it when Saint Paul had said to Timothy Thou hast knowne what I have used to doe hee added straightly Continue in the things which thou hast learned 2 Tim. 3. v. 14. And so he straightly charged the Philippians to have care to those thinges which they had seene and heard in him Philip. 4. ver 9. 4. Quere Whether there be any right ministrie or ecclesiasticall governement at this time in the Church of England or no Answere If you meane right hauing such a calling as the word of God requireth of which reade 1. Timot. 3. ver 2. Act. 1. ver 23. Actes 14. ver 23 1. A right ministerie Timot. 4 ver 14. I am sure you will confesse it is not right If you meane a right ministration as concerning Sacraments and doctrine I humbly confesse and thinke that no man ought to separate him selfe from the Church which God hath given us in this land of regiment read the seaventh Article 5. Quere Whether that nothing may be in the Church either concerning ceremonies or regiment but that onely which the Lord him selfe in his word commandeth or no. Answere Such ceremonies as do not necessarily appertaine to the Gospell of Christ may be changed observing alwayes that which Saint Paul hath commanded Philip. 4. ver 8.1 Corint 14. ver 26. Quere Whether every particular Church or parish in this Realme of England of necessitie and by the order of Gods word ought to have their Pastours Elders and Deacons chosen by the people of that their parish and they onely to have the whole government of that Church in matters ecclesiasticall or no. Answere Where soever this government hath bin the ehoyce hath bin by certaine with the allowance of the people for ought that ever I read But what were most requisite for this preseut time I leave it to those whome God hath set in authoritie and at this time called for that purpose of the manner of chusing I will not define for the order to be had it is manifest in the Apostles time and in the primitive Church it was the use Neyther any man I thinke Elders ought to be in the church will denie it After long time in some places this order ceased as Saint Ambrose saith Superbia Doctorum qui soli volebant regere Ecclesiam c. Ambro in 1 Tim. cap. 5. And therfore I think now there ought to be Elders as at the first as in Tertullians time ut prasidiant probati quidam Seniores qui honorem istum non pretio sed testimouio adipiscantur Tertull. Apolo cap. 39. 7. Quere Whether there is equalitie of all the Ministers of this Realme as well concerning government and jurisdiction as touching the ministration of the word and Sacraments Answere That all Ministers are equally called to the preaching of the word and ministerie of the Sacraments no man I think will deny As touching governement seeing the holy Ghost calleth them fellow Ministers fellow
Elders fellow Officers fellow Souldiers fellow labourers fellow servants feing Saint Peter expresly forbideth to exercise Dominion over the Lords heritage 1. Pet. 5.3 seeing Saint Iohn plainly condemneth the pride of Diotrophes for chalenging a Lordship to command and excommunieate of his sole authoritie epist 3. ver 9.10 seing our Saviour Christ the God of Glory No superioritie among Ministers of the tribe of Iuda neither him selfe would be a King Iohn 6. ver 15. And when his Disciples did strive for superiority he taught them plainly that the people of the Nation they had Kings and amongest them were rulers which we called gratious Lords but no such dominion should be in Ministerie Luc. 22. ver 24.25.26 I answere then that the Ministers are worthy of double honour 1. Tim. 5. ver 17. of singular love 1. Thessa 5. ver 12.13 of great reverence Heb. 13. ver 17. yea of all humble dutie yet I dare by no meanes make them Lords in the ministerie nor give to one of them authoritie above the other for feare of this sentence which shall one day prevaile Regnaverunt sed non ex me Hosea 8.4 They rule but not by me Quere Whether the patrimonie of ancient time given to the Church for the maintaining of learning the service of god to maintaine the estate ecclesiasticall as Bishops lands the lands pertaining to Cathedrall Churches the gleebe lands and thithes by order of law given to persons and Vicars are by right and gods word to be taken from them or no. Ans Sic ea qua Caesaris sunt Caesari esse donanda c. is a perpetuall rule in things of the world but yet with this caution unto every prince that feareth who is King of Kings that first there be provision sufficient made for the ministerie then that the poore may have reliefe for their necessitie last of all that Vniversities and Schooles be well maintained in such number as may still supply the want in the ministerie without which considerations the sp●●l of the church is most unnaturall sacriledge 9. Quere Whether the Ministers of this Realme of what calling so ever now in place allowed by the lawes and order of this Realme be lawful ministers and whether their administration and ecclesiasticall actions be lawfull or effectuall or no. Answere This ninth article for ought that I see is all one with the fourth 10. Quere Wheither at a mariage it is not convenient to have a Communion and convenient for the new maried persons to communicate and at a funerall to have a sermon or no. Answere I would have communions at such times as the church appointeth In which dayes if there be a marriage it is meete the parties there commucicate For funerall sermons they may be used yet if there bee in them any inconveniencie that the Church be hurt or offended being at an extraordinary time they should be left 11. Quere Whether it is lawfull for any man to preach but he that is a pastout and he onely to preach to his owne flocke or that any man may preach without a licence or no. Answere Of licenses to preach None may preach but a Pastour or Doctour and being requested upon iust occasion he may preach out of his parish But in his owne flock if he have no license to preach sure he hath no license to be a pasier 12. Quere Whether it be better and more agreeable to the Gods word and more convenient for the profit of Gods Church that aprescript order of Common prayer be used or that every Minister pray publikely as his own spirit shall direct him or no. Answere An ordinary prayer is very aecessary that it may be made familier to the people but as every parish shall have severall occation so it is necessary that the Minister be wise to pray in the congregation for the necessaties of his people 13. Quere Whether that Children of such as be perfect papists are to be baptised and whether insants are within the compasse of Gods covenant and have faith or no. Answere If the parents be obstinate and as they are here tearmed perfect papists wanting nothing of all that spirituall wickednesse and so accounted of the church then their children are not to be admitted unto the Sacraments of the Church Papish children not to be baptised although we do not remove them from the election of God But if they be not cast out of the church we may admit their children not as haveing faith which commeth by hearing but as being by grace in the covenat I am their God and the God of their seede 14. Quere Whether any ecclefiasticall person may have more ecclesiasticall liuings than one or no. Answere As the necestatie of the man requireth or the gists of God an mo●e abundant whereby thorowe great resort they are the more charged so they ought to be more liberally maintained But as for one man to have many Personages where he cannot possibly be resident it is great wickednes And seeing Christ hath purchased his people with his owne bloud who soever doth so enioy them they consider litle the exhortation of Saint Paul Of none nesidents Attend unto the flocke of Christ of which the holy ghost hath made you everseers Act. 20. ver 28. And therefore I humbly beseech the high Court of Parliament to see it reformed 15. Quere Whether that one may be a Minister that hath no peculiar flock assigned unto him and whether an ecclesiasticall person may exercise a civile function or no. Answere A Minister can be no more without a charge the● a King without a Kingdome for exercising civill government I say Neme militans implicatur vitae negotiis ut ei qui se in militiam detegit placeat 2 Timot. 2. ver 4. And I am sure what person soever seeketh after it it is for want of that love that should most abound especialy sith we see our Saviour Christ refused to be a iudge or any medler in divition of lands though he were required Luke 12. ver 13. yet will I not iudge any other who upon speciall occation in another copye it is might for a time do good unto his Countrey by meanes of intreatie seeking to do good to his brother doth take that charg also upon him 16. Quere Whether all the Commandements of God and of the Apostles are needfull for salvation or no. Answere All the commandements given without limitt of person place or time are necessary for all men ever to be observed as all other were to those to whom they were given And as Christ was a Minister not of earthly things but of heavenly so he gave no commandement but touching salvation So that the breach of the least of them if it be imputed to us hath a iust recompence of eternall death 17. Quere Whether the King of England hath authority over the Ecclesiasticall state and in Ecclesiasticall matters as well as over the civill state or no Ans Let