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A44799 The mouth of the pit stopped and the smoke that hath arisen out of it scattered by the breath of truth in answer to a lying story called Hell broken loose, or, The history of the Quakers, published by Thomas Underhill, a seller of the whores merchandize otherwise called a book-seller : his lyes returned upon him, his accusations answered and his envie decleared and truth cleared from all his reproaches / by one that waits to see death and hell cast into the lake of fire, with the beast and false-prophet, Francis Howgil. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1659 (1659) Wing H3172; ESTC R6601 19,385 26

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reason to curse the Magistrates from morning to night because that allowance was granted unto any to worship God in spirit and Truth who could not be subject to their traditional uniformity and thou tells the Army in thy Epistle that ruine is like to come upon all Religion and Piety if God prevent it not by you or some other way they may see what Religion thou art of and what God thou trusts in and what piety thou art for which may be rather called irreligious and impious the Government of Religion and piety lies upon the shoulders of him who is a wonderful Councellor and mighty to save and able to defend them that are subject unto him would thou have the Souldiers or any others intrude themselves into Christs Throne unto whom all power is committed both to make Religious and preserve pious them that do believe in him this were to derogate from the honour and power which belongs to Christ who is head of the Church who will not give his glory to another and let all take notice of this that whosoever hath sought to take the honour from him and glory from him he hath laid their honour is the dust and their glory is become as the moth-eaten garment as hitherto it hath been evident and thou tells them they know the Scripture is Gods written Word and a holy perfect rule of faith and practice and that it holds out that Christ is now in his humane glorified body in Heaven If thou hadst said the Scripture is the Words of God written thou hadst said something for the Word of God is one thing and the words is another though the words are a Testimony of the Word and the Word and the Spirit which is one which gave forth the words are the perfect rule and foundation of faith which was before the words and is greater then the words as we have often declared to thy dearest generation though they would not hear and where doth the Scripture hold forth a humane glorified body in Heaven thy deceit and ignorant mind holds out a humane glorified body we say according to the Scriptures that Christs body is spiritual and he is raised a spiritual body and is glorified in a spiritual body and in a Heavenly body which thou never knew neither art like while the nature lives in thee in which thou now stands And thou saith in thy Epistle that one day in seventh should be set apart for rational souls to mind the things of Eternity And which is that day that thou wilt set apart some of Babylons Merchants have cryed up one day and some have cryed up another day and some have called the seventh day the Sabbath and some have called the first day the Sabbath and whether was Sabbaths made for man or man for Sabbaths and whether was dayes made for man or man made for dayes all time is in the hand of the Lord and they that have Communion with him do mind the things of Eternity every day and so they come to know the day of the Lord in which rest is given to the soul and the creature hath rest though he labour in the Creation when that is done away in himself which hath opprest thou may go learn what this means In thy post-script as thou calls it thou saith if any shall take offence for thy seeking to civil or Military Power to support Religion thy defence is and thy belief is that thou ought to seek to the higher powers to support Religion and this is the Liberty of thy conscience and that this thou may do more acceptably then they who cross their own profest opinion as they have done of late years by motions Councels books and Papers which they have delivered for these many years for the pulling down the Ministry and steeple-houses and that their importuning the Magistrate to pull down Ministry and worship is a yielding of the cause I say thy belief is without the true foundation and so many properly be called unbelief and thou errs in thy judgement who seekes to civil or Military power to uphold Religion which as I said before belongs to him who is the higher and highest power Civil and Military Officers are not for making Religion or setting up Religion but are to keep the Peace and to stop the violent doer and to be a terror to evil works and workers and a praise to them that do well and that is their place to govern in righteousness but not to exercise Lordship over the conscience which power belongs onely to Christ and as for them who have delivered Books and Papers and words and writings to them who were in Authority to pull down the Ministry and Steeple-houses or publike Ministry and worship if thou intend the Quakers as I believe thou dost thy arrowes being shot onely at them we have delivered or caused to be delivered divers Books and Papers wherein we have shewed them the grievous suffering of the People of God by the heavy oppressions which they did suffer under because of the hirelings wages and upholding of Mass-houses things which hath been introduced since the Primitive times in the Apostacy which aforesaid things hath been guarded and upheld by Lawes made in the Beasts power now to make null those Lawes which were the ground of many oppressions and an offence to many tender Consciences this is not to pull down Religion and that Ministry which can be pul'd down by taking away of Tythes and forced maintenance is no Ministry of Christ but Ministers of Antichrist and to deny paying to Steeple-houses Clark wages burying for the dead and such other like invented things which many hath groaned under is not to pull down Religion for this I say to thee and that which I can say to all which no reasonable or equitable man will deny to be equitable or just take the hireling Ministry to thee and give him the fifth part of thy estate if thou wilt and erect thy Steeple-house like Babels Tower but trouble not us with none of these things and for declaring to the Magistrates that these things ought to be done away and the Law by which they stood which was made in transgression ought to be taken away this is not to pull down the Ministry nor true Religion but to overturn deceit and Innovation which hath obstructed and hindered pure Reformation which hath been talkt on for these are but the rotten raggs of the Whores Menstruous garment so thy defence is made void and ours standeth true that the Magistrate or Military power hath nothing to do to prescribe any form of Religion to bind all unto for this is an intruding into those things that belongs not to them Thou saith that thou dost freely and sincerely affirm that thou hast not knowingly wronged the Quakers in the least but doth engage thy self to mak● good every thing thou charges against them that shall require it of thee That we shall see afterwards how thou wilt
flattered them and told them they would stand by them and lay down all for that which they asserted and called one of them Joshuah and the other Moses and said They committed the keeping of the Faith of our Lord Jesus Christ unto them and such like Blasphemies but as soon as the wheele turned about in the next month calls them Traitors Tyrants and Usurpers and these were your stinking Addresses and your fained Supplications which all sober and understanding people were ashamed of and thy Priests which thou calls Ministers and their Confederates which thou calls Christians have flattered them and bowed under every deceit turned with every wind instance in the dayes of Edw. 6 Hen. 8. Eliz. and Mary and Charles and when these were overthrown which you used to call Gods annointed then you strike in with what thing soever arises ●s instance one Parliament after another and then for Protectors and then no Protectors but a Parliament and thus have you flattered each of the Rulers though never so unjust till the wrath of God hath sunk the most of them because they have hearkened to flattery and deceit and had not their ears open to them with whom the Counsel of God is we have Counselled them oft and have forwarned them in all plainness and nakedness of heart though our Counsel hath been rejected yet God hath fulfilled our Testimony thus far upon them all And as for the Quaker in Hartfordshire who thou saith swore against some who did abuse him and the Quakers I do believe he was one of thy own generation and lately one of your Popish Parochial Congregations instituted first by Pope Dionysius although the man was more moderate then the rest and did grieve to see his Neighbours abused and sober people disturbed and the house broken down blood shed that by the Justification of thy Sir T. H. the man not being convinced of the unlawfulness of an Oath did give Testimony against the riotous persons and evil-doers and against him who incouraged them in it And shall he be condemned by thee who acteth the same thing was it evil in him and is it Righteous in thee Although I do not justifie the thing for it is known to many thousands in the Nation that the Quakers will not swear upon any account least they should fall into condemnation but there is none can escape thy slanderous pen who loves uprightness and truth but all thy smitings in the dark will at last fall upon thy own pate Further thou goes on and saith We cry up Liberty of Conscience but are not willing to give it to others because thou saith Many thousand times some Ministers hath been disturbed by them in their Religious exercises That Liberty which we would enjoy our selves the same we can and will allow unto all men which is most equitable and though we have gone into the Steeple-houses and old Mass-houses and declared against Idolatry and deceit formality feignedness and hypocrisie or spoken the words of truth and soberness either in exhortation admonition or reproof this was the manner of the Apostles of Christ whose Consciences were exercised in purity towards God but that which was order in the Churches of Christ is counted disturbance by you Mass-house-worshippers and yet you would arrogate unto your selves the name of a Church and yet are out of Gospel Order you are for the liberty of the flesh and not for the Liberty of a pure Conscience Thou saith The Quakers are grievous lyars and thy proof is that Richard Hub berthorn said That the wicked are not to read the Scriptures and E. Burrough saith The wicked and ungodly are to read the Scriptures and not the godly and thou sayes In this they have not both spoken truth We know no lye is of the truth but of the Devil who abode not in the truth and we are redeemed out of lying by the truth which hath set us free and thou art found the lyar thy self for the words both of R. H. and of E. B. thou hast perverted and not spoken the truth as afterwards may be made more manifest In the 35th page of thy lying story thou saith The Quakers hath succeeded much and hath prevailed in these Nations and beyond the Seas but thou hopes where ever thy Book shall arrive before them the people will so well know them as to abhor any further acquaintance with them Here thou hast manifested thy spirit to be like the envious Jews who crucified the Lord of Life and persecuted the Apostles from City to City sometimes running before them with their lyes and sometimes after to oppose them to stir up the Vagabond-fellows the ruder sort of people to oppose and abuse them yet notwithstanding the truth prevailed and many believed on the Name of Christ thorow their words which they published unto them we have found the like opposition not onely from strangers but also of our own Countrey-men and have had many such lying stories as thine sent before us and spread over the Nations and yet God hath carried on his work notwithstanding all rage opposition and cruelty it hath prevailed and shall prevail for so is the Purpose and Will of God and they who shall see thy book who are but reasonable men will abhor and detest thy envious spirit and truth shall be more advanced and that shall be fulfilled the remainder of the wrath of man shall turn to the praise of God Thou sayes They are a very cruel bloody people if we may Judge the Lyon by his paw or what is abundantly in their hearts God Will confound thy lying lips and thy deceitful tongue whose blood have we shed can we not say and that of a truth and have our Testimony by Gods witness in every man that we are clear of the blood of all men Nay on the contrary hath not our blood been spilt in your places of worship which you account holy and hath not many suffered in bonds until death by the reason of the oppression of the blood-thirsty Priests of this Nation and thou might well have been silent if thou hadst not had an impudent face have not we much to lay to your charge and that truly what dost thou Judge of thy godly Ministers in Lancashire and Cheshire whom thou calls the valiant Captains of Christs Army which preached up the people into Rebellion upon pain of Damnation And others said except they went to the Randevous it was much if they were saved And others said the Nations must be purged with blood to shed the blood of all those that withstood them And others said if God would stand as a Newter they had men enough such Blasphemous words and doctrines were uttered which are too tedious to relate and all this quarrel they said was against the Quakers Now let the Reader Judge the Lyon by his paw and what is in these mens hearts by their words and actions before mentioned And now to conclude this
in thy own words what would not these men do if they had power to their will But the power of the Lord God preserves the innocent and is against all the workers of iniquity I shall not trouble the Reader with what Priest Ford and Fowler of Redding hath gathered up out of Priests books which they have vomitted forth against the way of truth nor what Tho. Underhill hath licked up and vomits out again which is but that which hath been vomitted up before so that it may be said of them all as the Prophet saith Their Tables is full of vomit and filthy spewing covers them all all which things hath been answered over and over but that swine loves to be wallowing in the mire and doggs loves to lick up their vomit and the envy of the wicked will not cease till he be cut off nor the evil eye for watching after mischief till it be put out And now Tho. Underhill and the rest of thy party who resist the Spirit if I would recriminate might not I more justly and truly bring many thousand bad examples acted by your party who are accounted Christians and charge them all upon you then all these things in thy lying story which thou hast brought against the Quakers If I should go from Parish to Parish as thou hast done from one end of the Land to another and also beyond the Seas and should I reckon up all the fornicatours and adulterers all the thieves and murtherers all the proud and covetous all the fighters brawlers railers drunkards cheaters and defrauders and should charge all these upon the Presbytery what a Volume I might make And were not this a just Retaliation would thou count it an equal thing or would it be accounted Just in the sight of sober men if I should charge the moderate and guiltless with these things before mentioned then Judge thy self for thy envy and foolishness and let thy mouth be stopped for ever for accusing those whom God Justifies In the 38 page In thy Observation on the whole History That one may talk much of God and Christ and of the things of Religion and all invain and how the coming in of unbelief shuts out Truth Faith and Pitty and the great danger the Nation is in by being overrun with hypocrisie and formality in Religion and how many hath the form of godliness but denies the power He whose eye is open may see the intent of thy History is to resist the power of truth and to strengthen deceit and this shall stand for thy own lot and for the Congregations and Assemblies thou art pleading for who at the best are but in the suburbs of Babyl●● who talk of God and Christ and of the Spirit and of Religon but all in vain for nothing is brought forth among you but formality deceit and hypocrisie and errour and unbelief and a form of godliness hath long covered the Nation and Truth Faith and Piety hath been rejected and the power of godliness but now hath the Lord appeared and hath rent the vail and manifested the deceitful workers and hypocrites and though thou be observant as to others foot-steps yet thou hast not viewed thy self neither pulled the beam out of thine own eye neither hath discovered thy envy nor the murderous spirit that rules in thy heart from whence all these muddy waters flows forth and all this fog and mists arises which darkens the air which whosoever receives in their understandings comes to be darkned but all that fear the Lord will see that out of thy corrupt heart all this mischief which thou hast long been treasuring up doth now come forth upon which the day of wrath will come both upon thee and it Thou saith The Quakers hath no reason in the world to boast of their sufferings as they do for they have suffered as evil-doers for being uncivil to Magistrates and disturbing Gods people in their Assemblies and for being busie-bodies and some other known wickednesses and all their charging Courts ●nd Justices with persecution falls flat to the ground We are no boasters but rejoice in our sufferings for Christs sake neither are we weary but are willing to bear and suffer till the Lord arise and plead our Cause and our sufferings are recorded and the Lord hath considered them though men would not and hath overturned many and rebuked many for our sakes and it is he that justifies us and who art thou that condemns us the Testimony of our innocency and the causeless suffering hath a witness in many thousands hearts who are not like thine as flint and what uncivility hath any to lay to our charge as against Magistracy whom have we wronged or what violence have we done to any except thou Judge that incivility because we do not complement bow and flatter and make feigned Addresses like thy generation and this your Highness and the other your Excellency and another my Illustrious Lord and the next week or next month call them Traytors Tyrants and Usurpers and as I told thee before that which was order among the Churches is accounted disturbance by thee which evidently manifests that you are in the Apostacy and out of the Christian Religion which was professed practised among the Primitive Christians and for any known wickedness among us I am out of all doubt if thou had any thing thou would preach it upon the house top known wickedness hath God redeemed us from which thou yet wallows in yet takes delight in And therefore all these known and wicked abominable falshoods and lies is come forth besides the abusing of our words and false representing what we have written as our Doctrines to the world and this thou hast done sometimes added to our words and sometimes detracted from them and sometimes adds thy own Collections and then presents them to publick view as our Errours and Blasphemies and as for Courts and Justices Magistrates and Rulers many of them hitherto hath ruled by the Dragons power and not by the Power of God and in that many hath incouraged the evil-doers and hath not listned to the cry of the oppressed therefore hath the Lord God overturned them and their day is past and our charges against their wickedness and persecution neither our Testimony neither our sufferings hath fallen to the ground but stands as a record against them And thou saith It is high time for all the redeemed ones and sanctifie ones and Children of Grace the Favourites of Heaven honest godly sincere Christians Children that will not lie to improve their intrust in God for this sinful devided Nation What dost thou own any to be redeemed and sanctified or to be Children of Grace or that doth not lie and yet cryes out of perfection as Blasphemie or that any should come to or live by that which is perfect if thou exclude the Quakers to be any of these they will not find many redeemed sanctified honest godly sincere Christians and all your