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A44837 The antipathy betwixt flesh and spirit in answer to several accusations against the people called Quakers / by Richard Hubberthorne. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1656 (1656) Wing H3221; ESTC R6706 7,403 10

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THE ANTIPATHY BETWIXT FLESH and SPIRIT IN ANSWER TO SEVERAL ACCUSATIONS Against the People called QUAKERS By Richard Hubberthorne London Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black Spread-Eagle neer the West end of Pauls 1656. The distance between Flesh and Spirit c. THis is the word of the Lord to all people as I am moved of the Lord to clear the scandals and false accusations cast upon the righteous seed and as the seed of God in all generations hath suffered reproaches from the world so now the same seed where it is brought forth suffers by this generation of evil doers and is afflicted and tormented and shamefully accused now in England whom you call Quakers and you say we deny all the Ordinances of Christ and you say we do not honour the Magistrates nor are subject unto authority but are disturbers and breakers of the peace which is false The first Accusation You say we deny Repentance Answ. And this is false for Repentance is the gift of God and this gift we have received and his free Grace which teacheth us to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts Tit. 2. 12. And by Repentance have forsaken sin as it was discovered to us by the light of Christ which he hath enlightned us withall and so the mercies of God we have found according to his promise and are sent of the Lord to preach Repentance to all people who would have all men come to repentance and to the acknowledgement of the truth that they might be saved 2 Tim. 2. 25. And with the word of the Lord as they are moved of the Lord do many go now with this Doctrine into your Streets into your Markets into your Synagogues and into your Cities to call you to repentance before the wrath of the Lord come upon you both sons and daughters now are sent to preach this doctrine amongst you from the Lord and for obeying the Lord herein are they reviled by you and persecuted and falsly accused and this is left for a testimony against you from the Lord and shal bear witness against you The second Accusation is That we deny baptism Answ. The baptism of Christ we own which all the Saints were baptized into which was by one Spirit into one body as in 1 Cor. 12. 13. and by this baptism we do witness the washing away of sin not onely the washing away the filth of the flesh but the answer of a good conscience towards God But sprinkling of Infants we deny which there is no Scripture for And all you who from your imiginations do imitate Iohns baptisme and so go into the water and say You are believers and have right to the Ordinances of Christ but you to be believers we deny who are not yet come to Repentance and your water-baptism which is but an imitation from the Letter for the Lord never sent you forth nor commanded you neither to preach nor baptize as they did whom you go about to imitate who are not yet come to repentance nor to the first Principle of the Doctrine of Christ not to own the light of Christ in your consciences which should exercise them and lead you to wait upon God and lead you to repentance and the faith of believers you know not for the mystery of faith is held in a pure conscience 1 Tim. 3. 9. which you cannot witness which hates the Light of Christ which should exercise your consciences and so your mindes and consciences is defiled and with that minde you talk of faith and of the Ordinances of Christ and of water-baptism which serveth unto us for a figure as the Apostle saith 1 Pet. 3. 21. And Jesus Christ was baptized by Iohn by water that he might fulfill all righteousness Mat. 3. 15. And Iohn was a Prophet and Christ is the end of the Prophets and Iohns baptism was but a figure for he said He did but baptize with water but Christ is the end of all figures types and shadows and did fulfil them for he fulfilled all Righteousness and Iohns Ministery and Iohns Baptism and he that fulfilled all Righteousness the same baptizeth which Iohn did bear witness unto and all men came unto him John 3. 16. but hee baptized none with waeer but this is a mystery to thy dark minde which knows not the baptism of Christ nor Iohns Doct●ine nor Jesus Christ the true light which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world which Iohn bare witness unto Ioh. 1. 9. but goes to hold up the types and figures which Christ came to fulfill and so denyest Christ to be come in the Flesh to fulfill all Righteousness and so thou art an Antichrist who holds up the figures which Christ came to fulfill and so thou denies the Scriptures and Christ who said he came to fulfill all Righteousnesse and the Saints baptism thou art ignorant of which is by one Spirit into one Body 1 Cor. 12. 13. And Paul who was a Minister of Christ and preached the Gospell did bring many into this baptism and he was not sent to baptize with water but to preach the Gospell and all the Churches which he preached unto came to witness Christs Baptisme with the Holy Ghost and with Fire by one Spirit into one Body and was baptized into Christ who was the Head of the Body Rom. 6. 3. and by this baptism we are thus washed from all filthiness of Flesh and Spirit but your imitated baptisme of Water we deny who live in your filthiness of Flesh and Spirit whose mindes and Consciences are defiled but the baptism of Christ we own which purifies our Consciences from dead works and keeps our minds undefiled by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost Tit. 3. 5. The third Accusation is That we deny the Sacrament which is an Ordinance of Christ Answ. For the word Sacrament there is no such Scripture which speaks of a Sacrament therefore we do deny you and your Sacrament and your bread and wine which is carnall and feeds the carnall which must die and your Communion is in that which is carnal in the creatures and Drunkards and Swearers have fellowship together with you in those things and all Lyars Covetous ones Prophane and Idolatrous ones eats of the bread and drinks of the cup and sits at the Table which is the Table of devills and this is your Sacrament which stands without in carnal bread wine and feeds the carnal which oppresseth murders the seed of God within you you say Christ hath left that as an Ordinance for you to practise which is false which we deny but the Supper of the Lord we own The Cup of blessing which we bless is it not the Communion of the blood of Christ and the bread which we break is it not the Communion of the body of Christ for we being many are one bread for we are all partakers of that one bread 1 Cor. 10 16 17 21 22. And this is the bread
which came down from heaven he that eateth thereof shall never dye and this bread we all eat of and this cup we all drink of and this is that which is practised and commanded in the Church of Christ and so we sit at the Table or Christ and cannot sit nor have fellowship with the Table of Devills and they who sit at your Table and your Sacrament and eats of your bread and drink of your wine they die for it is not the bread of life and you who eats and drinks it doth not di●cern the Lords body for it is spiritual and your Sacrament is carnal And so you eat and drink damnation to yourselves not discerning the Lords body feeding the carnal with the carnal and so we deny your Sacrament to be any Ordinance of Christ or the Supper of Christ 1 Cor. 11. 29. The fourth Accusation is That we deny the resurrection of the body Answ. And that is false For at the sound of the last trumpet the dead shal be raised they that have done good shall arise to the resurrection of life they that have done evill to the resurrection of condemnation And we preach Christ risen from the dead and if the dead rise not then is our preaching vain and your faith is also in vain and you are yet in youe sins who knows not this resurrection Christ risen from the dead in you 1 Cor. 15. 14 15 16 17. But some man will say How are the dead raised and with what bodies do they come 1 Cor. 15. 35. Thou fool that which thou sowest thou sowest not that body that shall be but bare grain it may chance of wheat or of some other grain but God giveth it a body as pleaseth him and to everyseed his own body There is also coelestial bodies and bodies terrestrial and the glory of the coelestial is one and the glory of the terrestrial is another there is one glory of the Sun and another glory of the Moon and another glory of the Stars for one Star differs from another Star in glory So also is the resurrection of the dead it is sown in corruption it is raised in incorruption it is sown in dishonour it is raised in glory it is sown in weakness it is raised in power it is sown a naturall body it is raised a spirituall body 1 Cor. 15. 35 36 37 38. Now this I say unto you all That flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdome of God neither doth corruption inherit incorruption 1 Cor. 15. 50 51 52. But this is to you all a mystery who are in the first nature whose understandings are not enlightned by the light of Christ who lives in your sorms notions and professions of these things in the letter feeding your carnal mindes with the Letter which is death and killeth and so your mindes are drawn from the Light of Christ within you into outward observances of meats and drinks bread and wine divers washings and carnal Ordinances which were figures of the time then present Heb. 9. 9 10. and you deny Jesus Christ the substance who is the true light that enlightneth everyone that cometh into the world Now to the light in you all I speak which Christ Jesus hath enlightned you withall and if you love this light it wil lead you out of all your carnal Ordinances and worthips and divers washings which stands in the first covenant which was before Christ and is done away in Christ the second covenant and it wil lead you to worship God in the spirit and into the doctrine of Christ to yea and nay in all your communications but all you who are got up high in forms and profession you are not yet come to yea and nay but are out of the doctrine of Christ and walks contrary to the light of Christ in your consciences which light shall be your condemnation that hates it Iohn 3. 19 20. though you be got up high in your forms and notions and words of the Saints conditions who spoke in the light and from the life And you who have the form but not the life shall be condemned by the life and you who hate the light shal be condemned with the light and life which gave forth the Scriptures The fifth Accusation is That we do not honour Magistrates nor are subject unto Authority but are disturbers and breakers of the peace Answ. Justice we own and righteousness and all who love the light of Christ which he hath enlightned them withall it will lead them to act justice And all Magistrates I charge you in the presence of the living God to act according to that which is pure of God in the conscience And all Magistrates who act according to that of God in the conscience are honoured by those who fear the Lord and walk in obedience to that in the conscience and these who act justice according to that in the conscience they do not bear the sword in vain for that in the conscience is according to the Law of God and all you Magistrates who are set over the people to do justice and execute the Law upon offenders this is the word of the Lord to you to mind the light of Christ in your consciences and it will cause you to act according to the place of a Magistrate but if you suffer swearers and drunkards or lyars or oppressors or fal●e weights or strikers or quarrellers or fighters and do not punish them or whoremongers or idolatrous or idle persons without a calling and thou that passeth by these things and doth not act justice according to the Law then thou acts not according to that light in the conscience and thou bears the sword in vain and that in the conscience will take hold upon thee and condemn thee and will execute the righteous Law of God upon thee who refuseth to act according to that in the conscience but those whom you call Quakers act according to that in the conscience and they are no fighters no str●kers no drunkards no swearers no oppressors no whoremongers no idolaters no fornicato●s no lyars no scorners no revilers no false accusers not proud not high-minded not thieves not murtherers for they give Obedience to that in the conscience which crucifies them to all these things so the Law cannot take hold upon them and from the Lord do they declare against all these things where they are yet standing which the Law of God takes hold upon And you who are called Magistrates and Justices as you pass through the Streets in the Cities and in the Markets you may hear men swear and lye and be drunk in the Al●houses and you pass by them and when any of the Servants of the Lord who are sent of the Lord into the Markets or Cities and declare the VVord of the Lord against drunkards and swearers and lyars who are cheating one another cozening one another and bid them repent and declare to them the just judgement of God which is