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A42578 Veteres vindicati, in an expostulatory letter to Mr. Sclater of Putney, upon his Consensus veterum, &c. wherein the absurdity of his method, the weakness of his reasons are shewn, his false aspersions upon the Church of England are wiped off, and her faith concerning the Eucharist proved Gee, Edward, 1657-1730. 1687 (1687) Wing G462; ESTC R22037 94,746 111

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nyssen'_n testimony_n be_v the_o next_o you_o do_v produce_v to_o prove_v a_o transubstantiation_n 40._o p._n 40._o and_o do_v indeed_o promise_v more_o in_o order_n to_o it_o than_o any_o you_o have_v hitherto_o produce_v while_o they_o say_v that_o the_o sanctify_a bread_n be_v change_v into_o the_o body_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god._n however_o that_o gregory_n nyssen_n mean_v no_o change_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n or_o that_o they_o be_v annihilate_v and_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n substitute_v into_o their_o place_n but_o mere_o a_o change_n in_o their_o use_n office_n and_o virtue_n be_v past_o all_o question_n evident_a since_o in_o another_o place_n he_o illustrate_v this_o change_n of_o the_o element_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n by_o and_o compare_v it_o to_o that_o of_o the_o altar_n which_o i_o hope_v you_o do_v not_o believe_v 1615._o no_o &_o altar_n hocsanctum_fw-la cuiadsistimus_fw-la lapis_fw-la est_fw-la naturâ_fw-la 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quae_fw-la ment_fw-la percipitur_fw-la hominem_fw-la renovat_fw-la regenerationem_fw-la greg._n nyss_n in_o baptismum_fw-la christi_fw-la oratio_fw-la p._n 802_o 803._o edit_fw-la paris_n 1615._o or_o any_o of_o your_o party_n dare_v say_v that_o upon_o its_o be_v dedicate_v to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n it_o undergo_v any_o change_n of_o substance_n but_o mere_o a_o change_n of_o use_n it_o be_v now_o separate_v to_o god_n service_n which_o before_o be_v of_o common_a use_n and_o for_o the_o most_o common_a service_n he_o compare_v it_o to_o the_o change_n in_o a_o priest_n which_o be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o his_o body_n when_o he_o be_v ordain_v but_o of_o his_o soul_n only_o by_o a_o invisible_a grace_n which_o qualify_v he_o for_o the_o particular_a office_n of_o a_o priest_n he_o compare_v it_o to_o the_o change_n of_o water_n in_o baptism_n which_o all_o the_o world_n will_v grant_v be_v not_o in_o the_o substance_n but_o in_o the_o virtue_n only_o through_o the_o 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person_n but_o must_v however_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o remain_v without_o confusion_n after_o a_o indivisible_a manner_n not_o in_o one_o nature_n but_o in_o two_o perfect_n nature_n the_o very_a same_o argument_n do_v theodoret_n urge_v against_o the_o eutychian_o who_o heresy_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o apollonarius_n as_o i_o have_v above_o put_v down_o his_o word_n at_o large_a from_o his_o second_o dialogue_n against_o the_o eutychian_a heresy_n p._n 70._o one_o of_o your_o own_o pope_n ●elasius_fw-la i._o against_o the_o same_o heretic_n say_v 1618._o say_v certain_o sacramenta_fw-la quae_fw-la sumimus_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la divina_fw-la res_fw-la est_fw-la propter_fw-la quod_fw-la &_o per_fw-la eadem_fw-la divinae_fw-la essicimur_fw-la consortes_fw-la naturae_fw-la &_o tamen_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la desinit_fw-la substantia_fw-la vel_fw-la natura_fw-la panis_n &_o vini_n &_o certe_fw-la imago_fw-la &_o similitudo_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o actione_n mysteriorum_fw-la celebrantur_fw-la satis_fw-la ergo_fw-la nobis_fw-la evidenter_fw-la ostenditu●_n hoc_fw-la nobis_fw-la in_o ipso_fw-la christo_fw-la domino_fw-la sentiendum_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o ej●s_n imagine_v profitemur_fw-la celebramus_fw-la &_o sumi●●us_fw-la ut_fw-la sie●●_n in_o have_v scilicet_fw-la in_o divinam_fw-la transeunt_fw-la sancto_fw-la spiritu_fw-la per●iciente_a substantiam_fw-la permanente_fw-la tamen_fw-la in_o suae_fw-la rect_v suâ_fw-la proprietate_fw-la natura_fw-la sic_fw-la illud_fw-la ipsum_fw-la mysterium_fw-la principale_n cujus_fw-la nobis_fw-la efficientiam_fw-la virtutémque_fw-la veraciter_fw-la representant_fw-la ex_fw-la quibus_fw-la constat_fw-la proprit_fw-fr permanentibus_fw-la unum_n christum_fw-la quiae_fw-la integrum_fw-la ver●mque_fw-la permantre_fw-fr demonstrant_fw-la gelasius_n papa_n de_fw-fr duabus_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la naturis_fw-la in_o biblioth_n p_o prum_n parte_fw-la 3._o tom._n 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