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A48863	The harmony between the old and present non-conformists principles in relation to the terms of conformity, with respect both to the clergie, and the people : wherein a short history of the original of the English liturgy, and some reasons why several truly conscientious Christians cannot joyn with the church in it : humbly presented to publick consideration in order to the obtaining some necessary relaxation and indulgence : to which are added some letters that pass'd between the Lord Cecil, and Arch-bishop Whitgift.	Lobb, Stephen, d. 1699.; Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604.; Burghley, William Cecil, Baron, 1520-1598.	1682 (1682)	Wing L2726; ESTC R23045	77,527	105

Popish party or be urg'd by them in excuse for their not coming to Church and joyning with the rest of the Congregation in God's publique worship In the Litany first made and published by King Henry the Eight and afterwards continued in the two Liturgies of King Edward the sixth there was a Prayer to be deliver'd from the Tyranny and all the detestable enormities of the Bishops of Rome which was thought fit to be expung'd as giving matter of scandal and disaffection to all that party or that otherwise wish'd well to that Religion In the First Liturgy of King Edward the Sacrament of the Lord's Body was deliver'd with this benediction that is to say the body of our Lord Jesus Christ which was given for the preservation of thy Body and Soul to Life Everlasting The blood of our Lord Jesus Christ c. which being thought by Calvin and his Disciples to give some countenance to the gross and carnal presence of Christ in the Sacrament which passeth by the name of Transubstantiation in the School of Rome was alter'd into this form into the second Liturgy that is to say take and eat this in remembrance that Christ dyed for thee and feed on him in thy heart by faith with Thanksgiving Take and drink this c. But the Revisers of the book joyn'd both formes together least under colour of rejecting a carnal they might be thought also to deny such a real presence as was defended in the writings of the antient fathers Upon which ground they expung'd also a whole Rubrick at the end of the Communion Service by which it was declared that kneeling at the participation of the Sacrament was required for no other reason than for the signification of the humble and gratefull acknowledging of the benefits of Christ given therein unto the worthy Receiver And to avoid that prophanation and disorder which otherwise might have ensued and not for giving any adoration to the Sacramental Bread and Wine there bodily received or in regard of any real and essential presence of Christ's Body and Blood And to come up closer to the Church of Rome it was ordered by the Queens injunctions that the Sacramental Bread which the book required onely to be made of the finest Flower should be made round in fashion of the wafers used in the time of Queen Mary She also order'd that the Lord's Table should be placed where the Altar stood that the accustomed reverence should be made at the name of Jesus Musick retained in the Church and all the old festivals observ'd with their several Eves By which complyances and the expunging of the passages before remembred the book was made so passable amongst the Papists that for ten years they generally repair'd to their Parish Churches without doubt or scruple as is affirm'd not only by Sir Edward Cook in his Speech against Garnet and his charge given at the Assizes held at Norwich but also by the Queen her self in a Letter to Sir Francis Walsingham then being her Resident or Leiger Embassador in the Court of France the same confessed by Sanders also in his book de Schismate To this Heylin within a few years following adds And now we may behold the face of the Church of England as it was first setled and established under Queen Elizabeth The Government of the Church by Archbishops and Bishops The Liturgy conform to the primitive patterns and all the Rites and Ceremonies therein prescribed accommodated to the honour of God and encreafe of piety The Festivals preserved in their former Dignity observ'd with all their distinct Offices peculiar to them and celebrated with a Religious Concourse of all sorts of people the weekly Fasts the Holy time of Lent the Embring weeks together with the Fast of the Rogation severely kept by a forbearance of all kind of flesh not now by virtue of the Statute as in the time of King Edward but as appoynted by the Church in her publique Calendar before the book of Common Prayer the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper celebrated in most reverend manner the Holy Table seated in the place of the Altar the people making their due reverence at their first entrance into the Church kneeling at the Communion the confession and the publique prayers standing up at the Creed the Gospels and the Gloria Patri and using the accustomed reverence at the name of Jesus Musick retain'd in all such Churches in which provision had been made for the maintenance of it or where the people could be trained up at least to plain Song All which particulars were either Established by the Lawes or commanded by the Queens injunctions or otherwise retained by virtue of some antient usages not by Law prohibited Nor is it much to be admired that such a general Conformity to those antient usages was constantly observ'd in all Cathedrals and the most part of the Parish Churches considering how well they were presidented by the Court it self in which the Liturgy was Officiated every day both morning and evening not only in the publick Chappel but the private Closet celebrated in the Chappell with Organs and other Musical Instrments and the most excellent voices of men and children that could be got in all the Kingdom The Gentlemen and Children in their Surplices and the Priests in Copes as oft as they attended the Divine Service at the Holy Altar The Altar furnished with rich Plate two fair Gilt Candlesticks with Tapers in them and a Massy Crucifix of Silver in the midst thereof which last remained there for some years till it was broke in peices by Pach the fool no wiser man daring to undertake such a desperate Service at the sollicitation of Sir Francis Knolles the Queens near Kinsman by the Caries and one who openly appeared in favour of the Schism at Franckford The antient ceremonies accustomably observ'd by the Knights of the Garter in their Adoration towards the Altar abolished by King Edward the 6th and reviv'd by Queen Mary were by this Queen retain'd as formerly in her Fathers time for which she received both thankes and honour from her very enemies i. e. the Papists as appeares by Harding's Epistle Dedicatory before his answer to the Apology c. So far Heylin Thus from what the sons of the Church Cambden Burnet and Heylin have affirm'd 't is apparent that Queen Elizabeth had a natural propension to favour the Papists and that this was discover'd by her making the Termes of Communion much more easie to the Papists than in King Edward's time whereby they became the more difficult and arduous to the Protestant Dissenter I 'll only add one observation of the Jesuit Reignold against Whitaker whereby the Reader may perceive not only that the Papists take notice how the practice of the Church of England contradicts their Rubrick but also that in the Rubrick concerning Apparel which is now to be found in the Communion Book even the beginning before morning prayer 't is order'd That the Minister

mean as your Lordship doth with the Scripture generally The drawing or encouraging others to do what they are not in Conscience convinc'd they may do My Lord There is a real Disposition yea longing Desires among the Non-Conformists towards a Protestant Vnion and it rejoyceth their very Souls to find some such as your Lordship among the dignified Ciergie and do bless God for you There are some such also in England who tho' they Conform do it not blindfold nor upon Corrupt Inducements We believe there are many of you who can in the fear of God profess you have again and again considered the Ecclesiastical Laws and according to your Duty as you believe you have been and are obedient not only for Wrath but also for Conscience sake and that you are Sound Protestants and as great an Eye-Sore to the Papist as any among the Dissenters However we are as Confident That there are others who are pretendedly at least great zealots for Conformity and yet Aimrather at an Union between the Church of England and the Church of Rome who consequently hate a Protestant Dissenter much more than they do a Papist not being asham'd to profess They would rather be Papists than Presbyterians There are many such who delight not only to misrepresent the Dissenter as your Lordship will perceive by the Reverend Mr. Baxter's reply to your Postscript but moreover to Unchurch all the Foreign Reformed Churches who have not an Episcopal Ordination Thus Mr. Conold in his Notion of Schism Dedicated to Anthony Lord Bishop of Norwich p. 14. asserts That he who is out of this Line of Apostolick Succession and exercises any Ministerial Office without the Commission of Episcopal Ordination is but a Lay-Imposter and a Schismatick from the Catholick Church and p. 43. speaking of Foreign Protestant Churches adds But if any of them have a Ministry which have no other Orders than their own Vsurpation or popular Election I know not how to Acquit them from being Shismaticks from the Catholick Church But yet though he is so severe in Censuring the Foreign Protestant Churches as Schismaticks from the Catholick Church he is as Merciful to Foreign Papists for in his Epistle to the Reader As for those of your Religion vid. the Popish who live under the Laws of the Romish Dominions I have a great Charity for them says he for they can plead Submission to their own Superiors and I am apt to believe that plea may be very considerable when they come to appear before the Prince of Peace and the God of Order There having been some such in the Church of England ever since the first Reformation they have impeded all Essayes for a Protestant Vnion and have done their utmost rather to Accommodate the Differences between Vs and Rome whereby Instead of Relaxations and Abatements towards Dissenters The Church of England has made the Terms of Communion the more difficult and uneasie unto us to the hightning and increasing the Divisions and at this very day will be at the same work wherein unless timely prevented they may succeed We beseech your Lordship therefore to animate your Brethren who are hearty to the Protestant Interest to Consider with just regards the tender Consciences of Dissenting Protestants and to appear in making a brisk Opposition to those who under pretence of making the Church of England the more Grand and August designs her Ruine by bringing her into her Antient Slavery to the Church of Rome 'T is to be wished a Bill Comprehensive of all Sound Protestants might pass in Order to the uniting us But if that cannot be a Bill lesser Comprehensivē with an Indulgence will very much contribute to the Churches peace and the strengthning the Protestant Interest To which end That the Advice your Lordship gives p. 62. to the end may be regarded by all is the Prayer of him who highly values your Lordships great Learning your Christian Temper and Moderation and who is Your Humble Servant April 1. 1682. The Errata PAge 7. l. 11. dele who p. 9. l. 2. After then add my work is l. 18. dele For. l. 35. for they r. the Dissenters p. 19. l. 22. for if r. of p. 20. l. 23. After then add the Bishops of p. 21. l. 32. for Families r. Faculties p. 23. l. 7. after Objection add has offer'd p. 26. l. ult r. of p. 28. l. 10. dele of p. 32. l. 18. r. it has p. 33. l. 10. d. and. l. 28. r. Proctors p. 34. l. 11. r. Scultingius p. 35. l. 15. r. Intelligencers p. 40. l. 1. r. pages p. 41. l. ult add That is several Popish Vestments p. 42. l. 9. after affairs add than in Civil p. 44. l. 6. after drunkenness add does p. 48. l. 5. r. Superstitious p. 55. l. 13. r. Prince p. 59. l. 19. r. Parity p. 60. l. 10. r. to l. ult r. 2. p 71. l. 27. r. Rites l. 38. after that add are l. ult r. why p. 72. l. ult r. Wild. To the READER THE design of the ensuing Treatise is only to shew how necessary 't is that the Church of England make the Terms of Communion with her somewhat more easie For 't is certain that whatever some suggest concerning the fancy humour and obstinacy of Dissenters He who is the searcher of hearts doth know that they are Conscientious in their Non-conformity Could they with a good Conscience conform they would but seeing they cannot as appears by what is insisted on in this Treatise what must they do They must not sin and offend God to please men 'T is not altogether improbable but that a Conformist in his perusal of the arguments in the following discourse may be supply'd with an answer satisfactory to himself and many others notwithstanding which the Dissenters may still feel more conviction in those arguments for their Non-conformity than in any reply made to 'em and therefore cannot Conscientiously conform Hitherto the Dissenters have been reproach'd as a people who cause divisions in the Church about Trifles who though they won't now Conform if there were a Bill of Comprehension on no easier Termes than a complying with the use of the Liturgy they would generally do it I have therefore upon a seririous and deliberate weighing all things thought it meet at this season when a late book of a singular brother calls aloud for it to give an impartial account of the Dissenters sentiments which are more general concerning Conformity having done it impartially rather indeed like an Historian than a Logician The great thing I abide by and judge my self oblig'd to defend is 1. That there are arguments powerfull enough in the judgments of some to fasten plain convictious on 'em concerning the unlawfulness or inexpediency of the use of the present Ordinary Lord's dayes Service Though I may not be convinc'd by them yet others may 2. That so long as any Dissenters are thus fully convinc'd of the unlawfulness or inexpediency of the Liturgy they must not