in the Nevv Testament as in Iohn 17. I vvill that they be vvher I am 8. 2. Cor. 5. VVe knovv that if this earhtly tabernacle of ours be dissolved vve have a building from God an house not made vvith handes eternall in the heauens Thus the Nevv Testament speaketh most agreably to the Rabbines speach as it hath but tvvo poinctes differing from them the incarnation resurrection yf the Ievves can be persuaded of those tvvo they vvill admire all the rest as eloquently agreing vvith the pure and the best of their doctrine A Rabbin at Basil 1598. made this knovven to the Scholers there vvho being taught in longue speach hovv the Apostles excelled in all Thalmud skill vvhen the party vvas gone to Zurick desired the Professors to vvrite to them of Zurick to request him to returne But the party could not yet left in print that vvhich might move him moved one Ievv that novv is in Cambridge as Merchants of Stode say he confessed there to be a Christian by the CNOstantinopolitans Ievves petition of instruction from England and by ansvver to him And all vvould admire the Nevv Testament being expounded according to theyr speach to vvhoÌ„ the bookes vvere vvritten But vvhen Latines vvhich vvere rude in the Greek and Hebrevv of the Apostles age must be cited by Doctours as rude darkenes confusion vvill take all D. Bilson ignorance thus appeareth He tooke in hand to defend Ar. VVhitgift that our Lord his soule vvent hence to Hel and not hence to heauen All sides agree that no further iourney vvas taken out of the body but the returne from Hades to it So he took in hand to defend D. VVhitgift But he betrayed him to his eternall shame in that he imprisonned many persecuted more and vrged some to death vpon consequentes for denying that our Lord vvent hence to Hell D. Bilson yet betrayeth him to smart for his hereticall disturbaÌ„ce of the Church and ioineth against VVhitgift vvith the aduersarie that our Lord vvent hence to Paradise This matter is past all deniall that D. Bilson betrayeth Canterburies cause to shevv it to haue bene hereticall and Sathanean that the Prince might call him to heauy iudgement And vvhile D. Bilson is of any auctority D. Bancroft folovving D. VVh must needes be holden an heretique But this only is not D. Bilsons vvisdome more he hath VVheras he bringeth scripture for himself and his adversary must plead that King Edvvard the sixt vvas of his mynd and Q. E. and the King your graces father seing he sayth as doth his aduersarie and by D. Bilson God the Princes say the same it is euideÌ„t that yf he rage against any one for saying that our Lord vvent hence to Paradise by scripture by our Princes faith by D. Bilsons faith he rageth against God against the Princes and his ovvne soule But all this doth D. Bilson His vvordes shall be commended plentifully to all posterity Thus they stande in his sermon book fol. 419. speaking to M. Iacob Tell then your abettour that all the realme vvill take him not only for a rayler against all honesty but a lyer against all duty that voucheth so confidently King Edvvard the sixt and his subiects held that Christ his soule never vvent to Gehenna and the realme knovveth the Qu. oath as also the Qu. aduentureth her eternall state These be not states to come vvithin his vncleane mouth He may doe vvell to remeÌ„ber vvho they be of vvhom it is vvritten They despise gouernement and speake ill of them that be in authority as raging vvaues of the sea foaming out theyr ovvne shame Thus the vvise Doctour right reuerend father blasphemeth God the King rauing against that vvhich he himself proueth true by all strength that scripture and God hath But the right reuerend father is not conâ—ent vvith all this madnes to betray D. VVh and D. Bancroft and to proue his aduersaries cause by scripture and Princes consent and to raue against all but he vvill haue all Graecianes that euer haue bene to hold him vvitlesse That our Lord should goe from Paradise to Hades So he hath gone from vvinchester to England Graecians vvould tel him he might as vvel say the one as the other VVher Hades is generall and by circumstances of difference is sometime heaueÌ„ sometime Hell And yf he care not for prophane Graecians oratours and Philosophers from vvhom a Greeke oration vvas printed at Francfurt against him and an other at Hannavv Greeke Diuines shall as generally damne him as voyd of faith herein none of them euer beleeved that any soule vvent from Paradise to Hades or yet to Gehenna But the extremity of his errour for vvhich all ChristeÌ„dome should reproue him standeth in these vvordes for the meaning of the Creede They shal be vvritten in gteat letters that one ruÌ„ning by may read vvhat fabulous Diuinity D. Bilson bringeth for the chief sentence of all our saluation and rebelling against the most clear light of our hope Fol. 154. of his Sermon book thus he dreameth THE SENSE OF THE CREDE MAY AND MVST BE THAT CHRIST AFTER HIS BODY VVAS BVRIED IN SOVLE DESCENDED TO THAT PLACE VVHICH THE SCRIPTVRE PROPERLY CALLETH HADES HEL These vvodes are past deniall vvhyle his copies continue and I meane to help him vvith some thousaÌ„des moo that if he vvill needes vvin the spurres the rovvelles may stick in his side Yf Paganes Machmadistes and Ievves should heare D. BilsoÌ„ make a sermon vvith these vvordes before D. Bancrofts G. vvith his approbation they vvould vvell might say that the foolishest of all Homers fables had as good Christianity as his G. that suffred this to be printed and the others Lp. that no more honored the Lord that as vve say bought him vvith his most precious blood No Christian euer thought that a mans soule vvent not to Hades till his body vvas buryed nor any in Homers Fables being avvaked only Achilles in a dreame of his knight Patrocles kild by Hector thus hard Patrocles soule complaine that the body being vnburied it could not goe to Hades Iliad 23. Slepest Achilles thou hast forgotten me thou neuer diddest so while I liued only since I died Bury me quicly that I may passe the gates of Hades The soules the formes of the dead keepe me alouff and suffer me not to passeouer the Ocean but I wander fondly by the soule of broadgaâ—ed Hades Thus the right reuerend father may see that his Lp. hath no fellovv for Diuinity but his abettours and Achilles dreames The burgesses of the Parlement are very patient that lent him the title and revenues of a Lord after this Patroclean Divinity He that spake and the vvorld vvas made vvill send him to Hell for ever euer or teach him to reuerence better these vvordes Eb. 9. vvhen Christ came an high sacrificer of the good to come by a greater more perfect tabernacle not made vvith handes I meane not of this building nor by the blood of
goatbuckes and oxen but by his ovvne blood he vvent once for all into the sanctuarie having found eternall redemptioÌ„ These vvordes shall make him coÌ„fesse not only so far as he hath coÌ„fession made that our Lord his most holy soule vvent hence to Paradise to the hand of God to the sanctuarie to the third heaven but also that our redemption vvas then founde and no addition must be ioyned thervnto And this tendeth to the same purpose folovving ther that Christ by his eternall spirit offred him self in his blood vvithout blemish vnto God that death being performed the called may inioy the promese of eternall redemption As Aharons sonnes adding to theyr office vvere kild for strange fyre so D. Bilson for his dreame that our Lord vvent not to God till the body vvas buried by all Greekes to Cateltheineis Hadou is to goe hence to God for 3000. yeres vse should think that he must goe into a fyre vvhich he hath kindled These vvordes tell the same that S. Paul afore told For abolishing of sin by sacrificing of himself he appeared before God All sage knovv that from the body immediatly vpon these vvordes the soule vvas to appeare before God and to rest in that payment And I think neuer any that toke Hades in the Creede for the place that receaved our Lords soule tooke it for anie other then that vvhich receaued it leauing this vvorld And D. Bilson vvilbe the first and the last of all not follovving Homerique and Ievves fables and heathen in Plato and Phlegon and such that sayd the soule vvent not to Hades till the Body vvas buryed This also might break the hart of D. Bilson yf he regarded the only reverend father the Lord the great and the fearfull Eb. 10. By Gods vvill vve are sanctified vvhich stay vpon the offring of the body of Iesus Christ once for all And again cap. 10. Having therfore brethren confidence for entrance into the sanctuary by the blood of Iesus the vvay vvhich he dedicated holy and liuely by the veile that is his flesh an high sacrificer ouer the house of God let vs come vvith a right hart and fulnes of faith c. Sâ— Paul the Ievves to vvhom he vvrot knevv that as the high sacrificer might not goe from the inner tabernacle to Gehenna before he returned to the tabernacle of this vvorld So our Lord might not goe from heauen to Gehenna nor at all any more to Gehenna then the high sacrificer might cary the holy blood thither But D. Bilson vvilbe vviser then Moses and the Prophets and of further reach then the Evangelistes and more practique then all the Apostles and Greeker then Prince Theophilus and all the Asiarchae for vvhom S. Luke vvrote and as good a dreamer vvhen he should not slepe as Homers Achilles And thus all his actes may be set in one vievv He tooke in hand to defeÌ„d D D. VVh and B. G G. That our Lord vvent hence to Hell Then he betrayeth and bringeth all the auctority of Scripture against them only vvith svvelling Titanean fables vvhat he can chalenge and verbis sesquipedalibus he maketh the vvisemen fond Secondly he fleeth to his adversary and carieth the victory to him from God from K. E. and from Qu. E. and from K. I. and from the right honorable the B. of W. that is from his ovvne soule and from all the Phalanx of theyr army After this to make stationers beleve he had not betrayd Cant and London he rageth against him self and against God and the Princes and theyr faithfull pretending to rage only against one of that consort hoping fooles vvould not see hovv raving against one he blasphemeth all that be of that mynd Yet all that have their eies in theyr head must see and say that D. Bilson blasphemeth God the Princes and the B. of VVinchester Though the King see him not he that hath his eyes like a flame of fyer vvill teach him as Alexand. the coppersmith not to blaspheme Then he betrayeth also all that euer spake Greeke that our Lord should goe from Paradise to Hades So all Diuines of euery vving Gentils and Ievves vvill marveyl at going from Paradise to Gehenna So he betrayeth all Philosophers vvho thought all soules vvent presently hence to Hades to God to a state vnchangeable Plat. Leg. 12. after all this he passeth all vvaking fablers that a soule should not goe to Hades till the body vvas buryed that all men should preseÌ„tly bury their dead Thus he dreameth that all men God him self should be mocked And his headstrong dulnes vvill nedes have Hades to be Hell thouh his ovvne auctour Andreas in Ap. 20. say Hades is the place that receaveth our soules And Suidas say To desceÌ„d is to leave this vvorld So the Bible for Divinity the Thalmudiques for Ebrevv Greeke oratours Philosophers and Divines for Greeke his ovvne side betrayd the other side made victours by him and confirmed all loguiques that ever vvrote all comon vvit for soules passages all these are nothing vvith D. Bilson as though he vvere a Samson vnpolled all against him had but Palastean bandes neither doeth he see vvhat house he vvould pull dovvne to dash out all his vvittes And this much for the right reuerend fathers crossing of my doctrine for the Kingdome of heaven his passage hence to Heavens by Eb. 9. to Hades by the Crede Also for Christ his kingdome on eartâ— I shevved hovv of Nathan Dauids sonne Ioseph vvas King of the Ievves by right and Mary Nathans daughter And that Salomons house vvas vtterly extinct in Iechonias This D. Bilson crosseth vvhom to reproue I printed in Ebrvv english Dauids familie So I hope all iâ— defended and I feare no blamer Your graces most humble Hugh Broughton In Photij â—io â—otheca The 〈…〉 in Euang
A REPLIE VPON THER R. F. TH. VVINTON FOR HEADS OF HIS DIVINITY IN HIS SERMON AND SVRVEY Hovv he taught a perfect truth that our Lord vvent heÌ„ce to Paradise But adding that he vvent thence to Hades striving to prove that he injurieth all learning Christianitie TO THE MOST NOBLE HENRY PRINCE OF GREAT BRITANY 1605. TO THE MOST NOBLE HENRY PRINCE OF GREAT BRITANIE Grace truth IN handling the LORds prayer most noble Prince at Oâ—landes August 13. 1603. VVhen I came to speake of the Kingdome to come the matter called me to handle these vvordes Lord remember thou me when thou comest to thy Kingdome these This day shalt thou be with me in Paradise From vvhich both I affirmed that the thefe beleved rightly as all the Scribes Pharisees that the soules of the just of Abel and all that died since vvent hence to that place vvich Diuines call HeaueÌ„ And I affirmed from Eccles 3. from the 12. 2. Cor. 10. that the soules of all men ascend vnto God vnto judgement to receaue according to the actions done by the body good or euell And this I added from Apoc. 14 That the wicked are tormented afore the throne of God the Lambe This belonging directly to the doctrine of the Kingdome I vvas to shevv hovv the Crede stroue not vvith this yf the English had rightly expressed the Greke he went vnto the soules departed as this he arose from the dead or from Hades makes the former vvordes plain About this doctrine D. Bilson B. of Vv. hath dealt not vvell A survey of vvhose dealings your G. shall see that knovving hovv he is damned of himselfe you may vvish him to recant First he agreeth vvith the truth in most stronge sort that we have no warrant by scripture to deny that our Lord went hence to Paradise His vvordes are printed in Copies about ten thousand that all may knovv hovv D. Bilson in his further paynes confuteth the Bishop of vvinchester He that vvill do any thing in Diuinity vvithout vvarrant of Scripture shall anger God Therfor D. Bilson is vnexcusable vvhen he goeth against that An other article the right reverend father hath for Christianity the ground of our redemptioÌ„ more ridiculous then any thing in Machmads Alkoran vvorthy to be vvritten in great letters that any ruÌ„ning by may see to vvhat strange coÌ„ceites he vvold dravv the holy Prophetes Apostles Fathers all Britanie In his Sermon thus the right reverend father vvritteth fol. 154. The sence of the Crede may must be â—sâ—at Chri Hâ—fâ—er his body was buried in soule descended into that place which the Scripture proprely calleth Hades hell This fevv vvordes are enough to shame all our nation for euer touching judgment in Diuinitie since Publiq auctoritie hath commended his vvorke Homer that expresseth all the Heathen vanities durst neuer bring this Diuinitie but only in a dreame In him and in Iliade or story of Ilion called also Troy book 23. v. 71. the soule of Patrocles killed sayth to Achilles his Prince in a dreame requesting to to be buried because the soules in Hades vvold not suffre his soule till then to come to Hades Oh bury me that I may quickly passe through the gates of Hades They vvho svveat to make the Gospell of saluation in sadnes more ridiculous then Heathen fables should look for the extraordinary hand of God to send them to Hades quickly What man that vvere not brainsik vvold think that the Cred should tell hovv our Lord in body crucified dead buryed should in soule be vnrecorded vvhither the soule vvent or vvher it should be till the body vvas buried A Defender in title a betrayer in truth of our religion in Britanie should bâ— told that better lerning vvold beseme a man a D. in D. a R. R. F. All Ievves vvold by this vvel might hold vs the vilest that euer vvere since Cains birth yf they could convict vs to be of such a religion all Christendome vvold hate vs as traytours to the Christian faith He that taketh vpon him to defend the coÌ„mon opinioÌ„ once graunteth all that the disputation required inventeth of his ovvne braine that vvhich none hold injurieth all the state and giving a Patroclean dreame for the marravv of salvatioÌ„ should have vpon stuburne continuance in errour the heavy Anathema maran Atha The curse Our Lord himself cometh to revenge him pronounced against him God commaundeth that 1 Cor. 16. And every commaÌ„dement of God should be of as great reverence as his vvord in sayng Let light be it vvas An other condemnation of himself the right revereÌ„d father hath in his survey fol. 543. Thus he sayth That Christ after death went to the place where the faithfull were the faâ—hâ—rs affirme TheÌ„ yf Abrahams Bosom be the place vvhere the faithfull vvere they vveare in Hades by the Grek fathers infinitely vsing the phrase of the Crede The Hades of the Crede Abrahams bosom is all one It is strange that a reasonable creature should make a book against himself A further condemnatioÌ„ of himself he findeth from Luc. 16. The holy Evangelist most eloquent in the Greek tongue vvriting to an heathen Prince Theophilus Asiarches one of the Lords of Asia bringeth Abraham talking vvith the Epicure in Hades Novv heathen place all soules in Hades and Theophilus vvould so vnderstand S. Luke that Abraham should be there And disputers together be allvvayes holden to be in the same vvorld The right reâ—erend father vvold prove that Hades is Hell from this place vvhich most mightily proueth the cleane contrary that the faithfull Abraham vvho vvent hence to heaven Eb. 11. there abideth till the resurrection vvas in Hades So the terme is generall for the vvorld of Soules And auctours vvhom he citeth vvould haue taught him so much Chrisostome in a Greke Homilie not yet printed of Lazarus the Epicure Theophylact citing manie Diuines vpon Luc. 16. Tertullian Ambrose Chrisologus cited by him self on that place Iosephus cited also by himself expresly placeth Abrahams bosom in Hades And that vvork is so agreable to the common judgement of Graecia that the vvork is fathered vpon Irenaeus the ancient Bishop nere the Apostles and vpon sundry others of fame And vvheras the Doctour vvold haue Hell lovv in the earth and must graunt that Abraham is in Heauen so the spech should be ridiculous that in a Dialoge one should talke vvith one aboue his head of such infinite millions of miles distaÌ„ce And the spech of lifting vp the eyes argueth equall height So Lot lifted vp his eyes saw the Land about fayre Gen. 13.10 So God sayd to Abraham lift vp thyâ—e eyâ—s behold the place wher thou art Gen. 13.14 The third day Abraham lifted vp his eies behoâ—d the pâ—aâ—e â—f whiâ—h God spake to him c. So Abraham lâ—fted vp hâ—s eyes saw three men Gen. 18. So Abraham lâ—fted vp his eies behold
before Sadducees the comon multitude of the vvorld never any vsed Death for the secoÌ„d death in spech of the Godly And to say that our Lords soules tasted the second death that is the highest degree of blasphemy against our Lord. The fourth vse of heathen Grek cometh in this king Rabinique schole spech in vse though the tetmes come from heathen Chalcedon Apoc. 21. for Nophec the Carbuncle Ex. 28. is Greke in sound but not as Pliny taketh the Chalcedon but as Thargum Ierusalemy doth vpon Ex. 28. So Take the beame out of thyne eye Barbmel vpon Hoseas and Mat. 7.80 for a Camel or Elephant to goe through the ey of a neddle that is a Ievvish proverb for promising a thing vnpossible as in this Are you from Phumbadita a tovvne of Ievves vpon Euphrates called also aelgaber vvher an ElephaÌ„t is trust thtough the vvole of a nedle And the Gospell hath that for the impossibility for a rich man to goe into the kingdome of heaven So these speches the vvorld to come Paradise Gehenna eating drinking in the kingdome of of heauen the kingdome of the Messias these be Thalmudiqs in meaning vsed in the N T. So S. Paul 2. Thes citeth Esa 11. in the Rabbines meaning vpon Es ther extant yet in Ionathan Ben Vziel That the spirit of Christ his mouth shall kill the vvicked Romulus or Romane The Greek fathers as Chrisostome vpon 2. Thes 2. and Oecumenius vpon Apoc. 18. savv that from Rome the povver should arise that by learning should be overâ—hrovven Arias savv the blovv and left out RomuIus So vvheÌ„ by S. Paul Abraham is in heaven Heb. 11. vvith the people of God and in eternall ioy and equall to Angels by the Greek Philo. in Abels offring fol. 88. by Rabbi Azarias translating him to Ebrevv in Maor Einaim fol. 34. to shevv the Perpetuall iudgement of the Ievves the same in Paradise as all the iust by all Rabbines and in Hades by S. Luke Ch. 16. These three Heaven Paradise and Hades in the Godly differ not one vvhit Iustine Martyr is cited by D. Bilson Question 75. to make Paradise out of Hades but Iustine in Monarchia shevveth fol 167. in Steph. edition that he is sophistically cited And so any not partiall vvold iudge from the vvordes cited In the same kind is the terme of the Second death vsed only by Thalmudiques as I touched and by them it must be expounded Onkelos hath it Deut. 33. and Ionathan Es 22. Rabbines infinitly vsed in Ap. tvvise and in theyr sense for a miserie to the soule in the perpetuall hatred of God And by Rabbinnes this phrase should be expounded and a reason rendred vvhy the Rabbines inveÌ„ted nevv termes for the place of soules In all these kindes D. Bilson shevveth him self most vnlearned Heathen Greeke he casteth of Because the Poetes vvere vvicked as though onely they vsed Hades not all sortes of Greekes and as though all the vvorld vvas not Godlesse vvhen the Apostles first called them vvith speaches from Homer Hesiode Epimerides Aratus Menander Aeschylus Pindarus Sophocles Euripides Aristophanes Hypocrates Plato Demosthenes Aristotle and all noble Greekes in some noble vvord Of this I have compiled a Dictionary for all the vvordes of the N. TestameÌ„t for your G. vvhich I left at Francfurt goe to print it yf I can find any Printer of Characters pleasant in Ebrvv Greeke and at leasure for this vvorke And as he despised heathen Greeke so the Greeke tongue gaue him such a blovv as vvill make him ridiculous to all Greekes vvhile the vvorld standeth in sayng that our Lord vvent from Paradis to Hades as from England or Scotland to great Britany froÌ„ VVinchester to England from Paules to London vvhile there be men in the vvorld that knovv Greek his vvordes they vvill think him a simple Graecian And vvher he forgeth nevv Greeke for the Apostles he doth them litle honour They vvere sent to teach the vvicked vvorld of necessity must speak in termes meaning as others before spake and the heathen vvold haue othervvise held them vvicked sophisters and not holy teachers So Doctor Bilsons Doctrine beseemeth not a Bishop and a Christian The despising of Rabbines because they be vvicked is no vvittier The vvicked enemies testimonie is the strongest of all humane And for many partes of the nevv Testament in speeches stories plain to them but strongue to heathen they are our best assistance As for this Remember thou me vvhen thou comest to they kingdome this day shalt thou be with me in Paradise The Rabines vvould all svveare that these vvordes vvere plain that they held the soules of the iust to goe hence to Gods ioy Paradise to be the name of it and not then first opened but opened first to Abel the iust they vvold never turne our Lords vvordes to Sophistrie that the sad thief seeking grace vvhen the humane soule of Christ should be in his kingdome our Lord should say nothing to that but preach of his Godhead vpon the crosse vvher he most hid it and should leaue the thief and his mother S. Iohn all the troupes vncerten vvhat should become of his most holy soule specially vvhen the night before he told them I DOE GOE VNTO THE FATHER The deadliest enemy most impudent vvold be ashamed so to vvrest vvordes Though shifters vvho knevv not Paradise to haue receaued all the iust hence tooke strange licence a Doctour a Bishop borne in the light of all learning should blush to follovv them VVhosoeuer vttereth a diuelish fansy though he can cite an auctour should pay for it as the principall auctour God forbiddeth errours And in the truth the enemies testimony as Epimenides Aratus Menander haue Gods vvarrant All the Scribes Pharisees beleeved that every iust soule vvent hence to Paradise as vvas touched the sage Doctours euen in the first chapter of the Elder Thalmud begin the kingdome of Messias in the vvorld to come as S. Paul Fb. 2. speaketh of it after the comon agreement of the Doctours theÌ„ aliue And if Christ his ovvne soule should not be the noblest in that iourney all the Nevv Testament speaches vvere disturbed And many most sure rules for the iust are in the Lavv that they goe hence into Gods ioy or heavenly city Enoch vvas taken vp Gen. 6. into Paradise Eb 11. in the Arabiq traÌ„slation Sem Abraham Moses Iosuah David Daniel vvere of equall piety therfore theyr soules vvere taken vp hence to glory And this standeth sure for all that keepe Gods covenant I vvill vvalke amoÌ„gest you Leu. 26. vvherof a Rabbin or Ebrevv Doctour R. Bâ—chay vvritteth thus you must not vnderstand that of promises corporall but of the promises touching the soule in the vvorld to come And our Doctours gather this heÌ„ce THE BLESSED GOD VVIL CARY THE IVST PEOPLE INTO PARADISE AND HIS GLORY SHALL BE AMONGEST THEM This diuinity is ofteÌ„ confirmed