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A10028 The second oration of Master Theodore de Beze, minister of the holy gospel, made and pronounced at Poussy, in the open assemblye of [ye] prelates of Fraunce, in the prese[n]ce of the Quene, mother, and princes of the bloud ryal. The. xxvi. day of Septe[m]ber. Anno. 1561; Seconde harangue de M. Théodore de Besze. English. Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605. 1562 (1562) STC 2028; ESTC S109011 4,714 16

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endes and purposes the one is to render a reason both to God to you and to the worlde of oure fayth The other for to serue God the kinge and you by all meanes to vs possible forto appease the troubles that are raysed in the matter of religion If you sende vs a waye and not appoyntinge vs with whome we may freendly conferre ther shall be nothinge done vnto vs but it wyll be published thorowe out all Christendome and so it should not be a meane to quiet and apease the troubles and those that woulde it so knowe it well ynoughe If you hadde not to do with other than with vs heare presente there were no greate daunger too vse the matter accordinge to the worlde as a man lyste but it shall please you to consyder that we are heare in the behalfe of a myllion of men whiche are in this realme in Swysserlande in Polonia in Germanye in Englande and in Scotland whiche looke all for some good resolution of this assemblye and wyll vnderstande that in steade of conference as it was promised men geue vs the tenth parte of an article and say signe this if not we wyl wade no further And if we did sygne that what shoulde they wynne They that haue sente vs hyther will know if we were constrained by force or els vainquished by good or certayne argumentes Wherfore we humblye beseche you Madame not to breake of or interrupt this good worke but geue vs men that wyll not make any conscience to confer with vs other wise youre maiestye mighte iudge of it your self what great occasion of offence this manner of proceadinge that they would set foreward wil bringe with it And yet because they shall not remaine without an answer to that which hath bene proponed vnto vs we declare and shewe that we approue and allow all that hath ben spoken by M. despense in the booke that he hathe geuen vs without anye other conference And as concerning the article that my Lord Cardinall hath geuen vs it is but an extracte declaration of the confessiō of Auspurge wherin there are manye things to consider and way that is that he should haue geuen vs the whole cōnfessiō For it is no reason to geue vs one line of an article and leaue oute all the reste Moreouer we should haue knowen if my Lord Cardinall did presente it of him selfe whiche neuerthelesse we do not presume but desire to knowe it or if it be by the autoritye of My Lords the prelates that menne laye before vs the confession Auspurge and to assure vs so thereof that we maye freelye conferre togeyther for that waye at the leaste whereof wee thanke God my Lord Cardinall of Lorrayn and the others wyll passe and alowe the condemnation of transubstantiation whiche is reproued and reiected by the comon assent of all the reformed churches as well in Germanye as elles where And if they wyll that we shall sygne anye thinge it is reason that my Lorde Cardinall of Lorrayne sygne also that whiche he geueth vs in the name of the companye to the entent that our churches and congregations whiche haue sente vs hether maye see and knowe that we conferre not in vayne But if my Lorde Cardinall of Lorrayne continue in this mynde to come neere vnto the confession of the Allemayns I trust that God wil bring vs nere and Ioyne vs together to so good a poynte and effect that you shall therewyth be content and that his name shall thereby be gloryfied throughoute all the worlde And in the meane whyle Madame we saye that oure Lorde Iesus Christ is in the holy supper wherin he presenteth geueth and exhibiteth vnto vs trulye his bodye and bloud by the working of his holy spirit We receaue and eate spirituallye and by faythe that verye bloude which was shedde for vs for to make vs bones of his bones and flesh of his flesh to the end to be quickend therby and to receiue all that which is requisite for oure saluation And if thys content you not Madame but nedeth a greater declaration as in deede it is daungerouse and harde too speake of so greate a mysterye wyth fewe wordes if it please my Lorde Cardinall of Lorrayn to performe that he hath promyssed which is that we serche together the holye scriptures and the aunciente doctours of the churche so farre as they be conformable vnto Goddes worde And also if it please youre maiestye to establishe as you maye doe a good forme and manner of conference and certayne deputies disputinge in order hauinge the bookes in presence with Secretaryes to collecte and write all in a good and auctentike forme We wyll geue you to vnderstand and know that we are not come hyther for to trouthe worlde But for to agree vppon a sounde doctrine for hauinge first clothed agayne this holye sacrament with that of the whiche it was spoyled and hauinge taken frome it so many things as were added vnto it we pretende no other thinge nor desire any more effectuouslye than that it may be established agayne in his owne perfe●●ion And to come to this ende Madame we geue and offer in all humilitye to God and to youre maiesty and to the rest quietnes of Christendome and namely of this realme our soules and our own liues Praysed be God ¶ The thursday last of september WE do beleue that in the holye supper oure sauioure Iesus Christ doeth geue presente and offer vnto vs the substaunce of his body bloud by the operation and workinge of the holy ghost that we eat and receaue sacramentallye and spirituallye by fayth the same bodye which is deadde for vs for to be a bone of hys bones and fleshe of hys fleshe too the ende that we maye be viuified and receyue all that is requisit to our saluation And because that the word of God wherupon our fayth is stayed doth present and set foorth vnto vs his true and naturall body by the holy ghost In this respecte we do rekognise and acknowledge that the bodye and bloude of our sauioure Iesu Christ is the supper By these words beyng taken in this sense being in the ende of the said article we do vnderstād that we do aprehend this great excellent mistery by faith which is of such vertu efficacy that it maketh the things that are absent present vnto vs. FINIS