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do_v bear_v nay_o himself_o do_v add_v a_o new_a consirmation_n when_o he_o say_v that_o he_o which_o do_v eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o this_o sacrament_n reus_fw-la erit_fw-la â—orporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la domini_fw-la shall_v be_v guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o again_o juâ—cium_fw-la sibi_fw-la manducat_fw-la &_o bibit_fw-la non_fw-la dijudicans_fw-la corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la he_o do_v eat_v &_o drink_v his_o own_o judgement_n not_o discerninge_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o infer_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n which_o those_o who_o the_o apostle_n reprehend_v by_o the_o fact_n of_o their_o unworthy_a receive_n do_v so_o behave_v themselves_o as_o if_o they_o do_v not_o discern_v it_o to_o be_v present_a all_o which_o lay_v together_o &_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o expositor_n throughout_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n concurringe_n in_o the_o selfsame_o sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o all_o these_o scripture_n 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that_o by_o the_o same_o omnipotency_n of_o god_n whereby_o the_o word_n be_v make_v flesh_n the_o flesh_n of_o the_o word_n be_v make_v to_o be_v in_o the_o eucharist_n which_o agree_v not_o to_o a_o caluinian_a communion_n 19_o three_o some_o of_o they_o do_v extol_v and_o magnify_v reason_n the_o exceed_a love_n &_o charity_n of_o christ_n towards_o we_o above_o all_o other_o humane_a love_n in_o that_o he_o feed_v we_o with_o his_o own_o flesh_n which_o no_o shepherd_n do_v ever_o their_o sheep_n or_o mother_n their_o child_n which_o be_v the_o frequent_a speech_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n hom_n 83._o in_o matth._n &_o 45._o in_o joan._n &_o hom_n 24._o in_o ep_n 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n 2._o &_o homil_n 60._o &_o 61._o ad_fw-la pop._n antioch_n and_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n s._n augustine_n ep_v 120._o cap._n 27._o &_o in_o psal._n 33._o which_o speech_n can_v no_o way_n agree_v to_o the_o protestant_n supper_n 20._o four_o diverse_a of_o the_o say_a father_n do_v reason_n express_o teach_v that_o we_o do_v receive_v christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n not_o only_o by_o faith_n but_o true_o real_o and_o corporal_o semetipsum_fw-la nobis_fw-la commiscet_fw-la say_v s._n chrysostome_n non_fw-la side_n tantum_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o reipsa_fw-la antâ—och_n christ_n do_v join_v himself_o with_o we_o in_o the_o sacrament_n not_o only_o by_o faith_n but_o real_o and_o â—n_o another_o phylogonio_n place_n he_o put_v this_o antithesis_fw-la or_o opposition_n betwixt_o we_o and_o the_o magi_n that_o see_v and_o believe_v in_o christ_n lyinge_v in_o the_o manger_n that_o they_o can_v not_o carry_v he_o with_o they_o as_o we_o do_v now_o by_o receavinge_v he_o in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o yet_o no_o doubt_n they_o believe_v in_o he_o and_o carry_v he_o in_o faith_n as_o we_o do_v now_o to_o which_o effect_n s._n cyrill_n alexand._n say_v corporaliter_fw-la 27._o nobis_fw-la filius_fw-la unitur_fw-la ut_fw-la homo_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la ut_fw-la deus_fw-la christ_n as_o a_o man_n be_v unite_v unto_o we_o corporal_o by_o the_o sacrament_n and_o spiritual_o as_o he_o be_v god_n whereunto_o you_o may_v add_v s._n hilary_n lib._n 8._o de_fw-la trinitate_fw-la and_o theodorus_n in_o the_o council_n of_o ephesutom_n 6._o appendic_n 5._o cap._n 2._o and_o other_o 21._o five_o the_o father_n do_v many_o time_n and_o reason_n in_o diverse_a place_n and_o upon_o sundry_a occasion_n go_v about_o to_o prove_v the_o truth_n of_o other_o mysterye_n and_o article_n of_o our_o faith_n by_o this_o miracle_n of_o the_o be_v of_o christ_n flesh_n and_o body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o s._n irenaeus_n for_o example_n do_v 34._o prove_v christ_n father_n to_o be_v the_o god_n of_o the_o old_a sestament_n for_o that_o in_o his_o creature_n he_o have_v leave_v we_o his_o body_n &_o blood_n and_o in_o the_o same_o ibidem_fw-la place_n he_o use_v the_o same_o argument_n for_o establishinge_v the_o article_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o out_o body_n to_o wit_n that_o he_o that_o 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real_o under_o the_o form_n or_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n to_o wit_n that_o our_o faith_n may_v be_v prove_v and_o exercise_v thereby_o &_o the_o horror_n of_o eat_a flesh_n &_o blood_n in_o their_o own_o form_n &_o shape_n take_v away_o and_o so_o the_o same_o s._n ambrose_n ibid._n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacram._n c._n 4._o cyrill_n in_o cap._n 22._o luc._n apud_fw-la d._n thom._n in_o catena_fw-la other_o do_v persuade_v we_o not_o to_o believe_v our_o sense_n that_o see_v only_a bread_n and_o wine_n whereof_o we_o shall_v speak_v more_o in_o the_o observation_n follow_v so_o s._n augustine_n serm_n de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la apost_n &_o l._n 3._o de_fw-la trinit_fw-la cap._n 10._o other_o do_v prove_v this_o real_a presence_n by_o the_o sacrifice_n affirminge_v the_o self_n same_o christ_n to_o be_v offer_v now_o in_o our_o daily_a sacrifice_n upon_o the_o altar_n of_o christian_n after_o a_o unbloudy_a manner_n which_o be_v offer_v once_o bloude_o upon_o the_o
manner_n of_o christ_n be_v there_o from_o that_o in_o heaven_n and_o as_o it_o signify_v his_o be_v there_o under_o a_o sacrament_n or_o sign_n but_o yet_o real_o we_o grant_v also_o that_o he_o be_v there_o spiritual_o that_o be_v to_o say_v after_o a_o spiritual_a and_o not_o corporal_a circumscriptive_a manner_n yet_o true_o and_o real_o we_o grant_v further_o that_o he_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o faith_n for_o that_o we_o do_v not_o see_v he_o but_o apprehend_v he_o present_v by_o faith_n but_o yet_o true_o and_o real_o and_o not_o in_o faith_n and_o belief_n only_o and_o by_o this_o you_o may_v perceive_v our_o sacramentarye_n manner_n of_o disputinge_v arrian_n just_a like_o the_o arrian_n of_o old_a time_n and_o of_o our_o day_n who_o seek_v to_o enacuate_v all_o place_n allege_v for_o the_o unity_n and_o equality_n of_o christ_n with_o his_o father_n by_o one_o only_a distinction_n of_o will_n and_o nature_n so_o as_o when_o christ_n say_v for_o example_n joan._n 6._o my_o father_n and_o i_o be_v one_o it_o be_v true_a say_v they_o they_o be_v one_o in_o will_n &_o love_n but_o not_o in_o nature_n &_o thus_o they_o delude_v all_o that_o can_v be_v bring_v for_o natural_a unity_n except_o only_o the_o authority_n and_o contrary_a belief_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n whereby_o at_o last_o they_o be_v overbear_v 46._o and_o the_o very_a same_o course_n hold_v the_o sacramentarye_n of_o our_o day_n for_o whatsoever_o plain_a and_o perspicuous_a place_n you_o bring_v they_o out_o of_o antiquity_n affirminge_v the_o true_a natural_a substantial_a body_n of_o our_o saviour_n to_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n they_o will_v shift_v of_o all_o present_o by_o one_o of_o these_o three_o word_n it_o be_v true_a sacramental_o it_o be_v true_a spiritual_o and_o it_o be_v true_a by_o faith_n only_o as_o though_o these_o can_v not_o stand_v with_o real_o or_o true_o and_o here_o of_o shall_v you_o have_v store_n of_o example_n afterward_o in_o the_o aunswering_n of_o doctor_n perne_n cranmer_n ridley_n and_o latymer_n for_o the_o sacramentary_a party_n to_o our_o argument_n take_v out_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n for_o when_o the_o say_v father_n do_v avouch_v that_o christ_n our_o saviour_n true_a natural_a body_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n they_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a sacramental_o and_o think_v they_o have_v defend_v themselves_o manful_o thereby_o and_o when_o in_o other_o place_n the_o same_o father_n do_v profess_v that_o the_o very_a same_o flesh_n that_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o cruicify_v for_o we_o be_v there_o they_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a spiritual_o and_o by_o faith_n but_o not_o real_o and_o thus_o they_o do_v evacuate_v and_o delude_v all_o that_o can_v be_v allege_v but_o if_o they_o can_v show_v as_o they_o can_v any_o one_o father_n that_o take_v or_o use_v the_o word_n sacramental_o spiritual_o or_o by_o faith_n in_o this_o sense_n as_o opposite_a to_o real_o and_o true_o in_o this_o mystery_n then_o be_v it_o evident_a this_o to_o be_v but_o a_o shift_n of_o their_o own_o invention_n to_o escape_v thereby_o and_o so_o much_o of_o this_o observation_n the_o nine_o observation_n how_o christ_n be_v receive_v of_o evil_a man_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o of_o good_a man_n both_o in_o and_o out_o of_o the_o same_o §._o 9_o 47._o it_o follow_v upon_o the_o former_a declaration_n of_o the_o word_n sacrament_n sign_n and_o the_o rest_n that_o we_o explain_v in_o this_o place_n a_o certain_a distinction_n insinuate_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o touch_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n of_o three_o canâ—â—_n sort_n of_o receavinge_v and_o eatinge_v christ_n by_o this_o sacrament_n first_n sacramental_o alone_a the_o second_o 1._o spiritual_o only_a the_o three_o both_o sacramental_o and_o spiritual_o together_o a_o example_n of_o the_o first_o be_v when_o evil_a man_n do_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n unworthy_o for_o that_o these_o man_n think_v they_o receive_v the_o very_a sacrament_n to_o wit_n the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n yet_o do_v they_o not_o receive_v the_o true_a spiritual_a effect_n thereof_o which_o be_v grace_n and_o nourishment_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o of_o these_o do_v s._n paul_n speak_v express_o to_o the_o corinthian_n when_o he_o say_v he_o that_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o videlicet_fw-la the_o sacrament_n do_v eat_v and_o drink_v judgement_n to_o himself_o not_o discerninge_v the_o body_n 11._o of_o our_o lord_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n do_v the_o ancient_a father_n upon_o this_o place_n expound_v the_o apostle_n as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o the_o commentary_n of_o saint_n chrysostome_n s._n ambrose_n s._n anselme_n and_o other_o expositor_n 8._o both_o greek_a and_o latyn_n and_o s._n austen_n in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o work_n do_v express_o show_v the_o same_o alleaginge_v this_o text_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o proof_n thereof_o corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la say_v 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