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A86122 Of the article of our creed: Christ descended to Hades, or ad Inferos. Posit. 1. Christs soule went to Hades, or ad Inferos. 2. It concerns a Christian to know the right meaning of this article. Quest. 1. What is meant in the creed by this article? 2. Did Christs soule goe to heaven or Gehenna? With answers to both of them severally. Hayne, Thomas, 1582-1645. 1642 (1642) Wing H1220; Thomason E128_3; ESTC R22249 20,794 28

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that the true acceptation of the word Hades might the better bee understood 4. Master J. Casaubon on Greg. Nyssen Epist ad Eustat c. Not. 116. saith They who think Hades is properly the seat of the damned bee no lesse deceived then they who when they read Inferos in Latine writers doe interpret it of the same place namely Gehenna Here is plainly intimated by this worthie My●tes of sac●ed and humane learning that he judged Haden and Inferos to denote proper●y the common state of all dead and improperly onely and oy consequence the place of the damned In which regard a so they may sig●e the lodg of the blessed And hence I conceive it is that Luk. 16 22. the Rich man is said to be in Hade or apud Inferos in Hel in torment If Had●s properly and of its own force had signified G●h●nna Hel be words in torment might have bin omitted 5. Archbishop Vsher in his above cited T●eatise full fraught with diligent reading and judicious observations out of all kind of good litterature so that it containes what soever in the Treasury of learned Antiquity may conduce to the right understanding of the termes here questioned concludes 1. That Christs dead body though free from corruption yet did descend into the grave the place of corruption 2. That Christs soule being separated from his body departed hence to the other world or world unseen as all other mens soules in that case use to doe So that hereby is asserted that Hades signifies the other would or world unseen whither other mens soules go without any distinction in the word it selfe of their joy or misery 3. That Christ went to the dead and remained for a time in the state of death as other dead men aoe These assertions in the fornamed book pag. 37.goe as far as is necessary for the point in controversy between my Lord and the lesuit Elswhere pag. 353 it is further averred That it had bin sufficiently declared out of good Authours that Hades signifies the place of soules departed in gener all and so is of extent large enough to comprehend under it as well 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that part of Hades or the world unseen which is in Heaven as that which is by Iosephus cald 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the darker Hades and in the Gospel 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 outer darknesse And pag. 376. it is on very good ground concluded that seeing the Rule of faith common to great and small ones in the Church as is fit should containe such verities onely as are generally agreed upon by common consent of all true Christians Christ descending to Hades may have this meaning in gener all that hee went to the dead and continued in the state of death untill the time of his resurrection and further that the particular determination of the place of blisse or of torment or of both may bee left as a number of other Theologicall points are unto further disputation Thus this most learned Bi●hop in a right Christian moderation and pious study of the Churches peace gives his judgment concerning the article and permits further disquisition concerning the particular part of Hades whither Christs soule went 〈◊〉 any passages out of learned Authours are in that Treatise cited mon judiciously and may serve very pertinently to shew their opinion to bee that Christs soule went at his death to Paradise to Heaven to the place where the soules of the Saints were So that not my self onely but even all who are studious to find the truth in this controve●sy shall stand highly ingaged to this most reverend learned Bishop as for many other to for that his most learned and exact producement Now then I might call in hither the authorities of some of those learned writers and much in large this Treatise but having taken in hand as may well be permitted to make further disquisition into the point my course hath bin though I have thought good to cite the learned paines of the Iudicious late writers above a few of many yet especially to stand upon and maintain the point from sacred Scriptures and deductions grou●ded thereupon These I shall stil hold unto and rest upon because they have fully satisfied my self and having clearly and briefly propounded them they may I hope prevaile with others who read without prejudice and judg without partiality So I proceed from these grounds of my answer to a punctuall and distinct answer to the second Question The second Question answered and some Objections against the Answer resolved IT hath bin shewed above that Hades Sheol Inferi of their own force expresse no more but in generall that Christs soule went to the other world or world unseen and further that if generall termes serve to expresse something more particular as generall termes very often doe circumstances considerable about Christs person and places of Scripture touching thereupon must inforce the same Now I having declared the circumstances of cheif weight and moment in this point and in the severall chapters above having cosidered the Scriptures on which the knowledge of those circumstances depend I thus answer the 2d Question 1. That Christs soule at his death commended into the hands of his father went to Paradise or Heaven typed by the Sanctum Sanctorum into which Paradise or Heaven the believing malefactours soule and the soules of all the then dead Saints were carried and into which all believers soules now and hereafter goe at their deathes 2. That Christs soule going from the crosse to Heaven did in Heaven amidst the blessed and holy assembly of the Saints keep an holy Sabbath is his body did rest in his grave untill his resurrection and that his soule came from Heaven to his body on the third day as the soules of the dead Saints which rose with him at his resurrection did to their bodies and as all believers soules shall at the generall resurrection Obj. Against this Answer some man will perhaps object Bee it granted that Christs soule went to Paradise yet some passages of the ancient Fathers make Paradise a different place from Heaven shut up the soule● of the Saints whilst their bodies lie in the dust in refriger●o in a place of refreshing and not of perfect blisle Whence some conceive it to bee said that they are under the Altar and cry How long Lord holy and true dost thou not avenge our bloud on them that dwel on the earth Ans I Answer 1. The soules of the Godly enjoy the blessednesse which they are capable of during the time of their separation from their bodies The want which any one hath conceived so to diminish their blisse that is is not full and perfect can bee no other then that which proceeds from their bodies still lying in the dust Whence their bloud spilt in which once was the life soule L●v 17.14 cries as did Abels for Gods justice on their persecutours 2. In the old Testament the happ●nesle