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A41583 Gospel-baptism or, plain proof, that the mode of dipping, plunging or immersion, now commonly used by the people called Anabaptists; is according to the primitive institution in a letter to Mr. Samuel Young. Occasioned by his sharp reflections in contempt of that way, and the defenders thereof in a small book, entituled, A second and last New-Years-Gift, &c. With some notes concering the true subject. By a lover of truth. Minge, Thomas. 1700 (1700) Wing G1312A; Wing M2190A; ESTC R221577 28,906 73

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ipsum bapti●●ndi verbum mergere significat mergendi ●●um veteri Ecclesiae observatum fuisse constat English thus But whether he that is bapti●●d may be dipt all over or wholly plunged ●●d that thrice or once or whether Water being poured on he be sprinkled only it matters ●●ry little but that ought to be left free to 〈◊〉 Churches according to the diversity of Re●●ns or Countries Although also the Word it self of Bap●●ing signifies to Dip and it is manifest ●●at the Rite of Dipping hath been ob●●ved by the Ancient Church The for●●er Period is Sua fert Opinio his Opinion or Think so and is the Matter in ●●spute The latter his positive Assertion 〈◊〉 the Primitive Mode of Baptism according to our Saviour's Institution Mat. 28. 〈◊〉 Go ye therefore and teach all Nations ●●tizing them c. which ought to take ●●ace with the Exclusion of all other Modes And his true Assertion of the Primitive Practice and Example and I should say Command leaves no room for his Opinion of Indifferency in the Matter Especially we may judge so since we find him upon solid Grounds employing his worthy and in many things unerring Pen in the use of that so much decry'd contemn'd and ridicul'd by your self recounted and so accounted in your Second New-years-Gift Pag. 22. way of arguing used by the Anabaptists See Calvin's Inst cap. 17. fol. 509. of the Lord Supper § 50. Tertio cur de pane simpliciter dixit ut ederent de calice ut omnes biberent Acsi Satanae calliditati ex destinat● occurrere voluisset Imò qua id fiducia hod● usurpant ut plebeculae symbolum Christi Corpor● distribuant si nullum habent Domini vel Man datum vel Exemplum Why did our Lord s● plainly that they should eat of the Bread and th●● they should all drink of the Cup As if it ha● been his Pleasure and Design to meet with and oppose the Subtilty of Satan Yea with what confidence at this day do they usurp th●● thing that they should distribute to the poor people the Sign of Christ's Body if they have neither th● Lord's Precept nor Example Thus far Calvin● And this occasioned by their cutting the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper shorter or taking away what they thought was superfluous in the Institution administring the Sacrament in one kind only to wit the Bread and with-holding the Cup from the People ●rguing that the Bread was the Body of Christ and therefore that the Blood must ●eeds be there by way of Concomitan●y So that receiving one they received ●oth Calven tells them There 's no Pre●ept nor Example for this The Argument was good and of like weight is it against those who add to or diminish from ●e other institution of Baptism either as 〈◊〉 Matter Manner or Subject In your opinion a little Water to sprinkle may ●rve to represent all the things signified by Baptism to wit the word it self Dip●ng which is clearly another thing Washing Death Burial Resurrection ●tting on of Christ overwhelmed with ●flictions a being filled with the Spirit c. ●ll which are plentiful expressions and significations That I may speak after Calvin Our Saviour did as it were of set purpose ob●●ate the subtilty of Satan in the error of ●rinkling instead of Baptism in being ●●mself an example of going down into the River where was plenty of Water therein he was Baptized or Dipt whereby was fully represented all things without diminution But perhaps you may say Quo● sum haec To what end is all this Have w●● not had enough of this already Perhap● you have But since I have gone thus fa● and farther then I thought for at first 〈◊〉 for a Hundred in for a Thousand I a●● minded to run the hazard of the best pa●● of my Stock therefore beg your patience and entreat you to get your bags ready f●● in a little time Deo volente I will pay you all Now it will be convenient to walk ba●● and over-hall part of the Thread already spun to see whether I can mend it L●● me say something among the rest of the Quality of the Subject to be baptized I must to the Catechism for I find 〈◊〉 least that he must be a Catecheumen S●● Berchetus before By Baptism we do 〈◊〉 it were enter into the Church T●● Church of Christ is built up of live● Stones upon the Living Stone and Ro●● Christ 1 Peter 2.4 5. The Life o●● Christian is Faith the just shall live by 〈◊〉 Faith Hab. 2.4 John 17.3 This 〈◊〉 Life Eternal that they might know thee 〈◊〉 only true God and Jesus Christ whom th● hast sent This knowledge of God a● and Christ is by faith only what is not 〈◊〉 Faith is sin All Acts of Religious w●●ship ought to be in Faith which is the ●rue knowledge of God in Christ Baptism ●s a part of Religious Worship therefore 〈◊〉 ought to be performed with Faith by ●he Subject There is Confession with the Mouth Rom. 10.9 If thou shalt confess with by Mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in ●●●e heart that God hath raised him from the ●ead thou shalt be saved Faith which is ●er joyned with repentance and confession qualifies for Baptism and Baptism ●●r a Regular admission to Communion at ●he Lords Table in a True Regular Vi●ble Church It is true also that Believers and Elect Children do first belong to ●he Invisible Catholick Church before ●ea and if they should never be joyned 〈◊〉 a Visible Church But that is not our ●usiness to discourse of our business is ●ith a Visible Church which admits of ●one but such as make an Audible and ●isible Profession of Faith which in Chari●y may be judged Real For man knoweth ●t the heart The next in the Catechism 〈◊〉 For it is Testified to us that God is willing 〈◊〉 place us who otherwise are Strangers with ●●ose of his own house Testified to us Can this be meant to a ●abe or babes that have Eyes and see not ●ars but hear not neither do they understand No it cannot be therefore the proper Subject must be a Believer Young● or Older who otherwise are Strange● that is being without Faith for th● are we Strangers to the Common-wealth of Israel That God is willing to place 〈◊〉 with those of his own House which is 〈◊〉 Church We are to know God's will th●● before our Admission or Orderly Reception into his Visible Church for of the Invisi●● in respect of Election we were Member before In short all the Representations● Baptism that can be reckoned up are no 〈◊〉 presentations to a Babe that hath no Understanding of Things done or said Neither indeed is any thing in a Catechi●● significant but to such who have a com●●tent Understanding and so some ground 〈◊〉 Hope that as they understand Things G●● will work Faith to believe them The●●fore since no Man can find out a reason 〈◊〉 cause in the Creature why a Creature