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A27370 A letter written by a minister for the satisfaction of a person doubting in religion shewn to be unsatisfactory. P. I., Minister.; T. B.; J. W. 1686 (1686) Wing B185; ESTC R10043 13,702 41

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question of Transubstantiation of which if you make good use I shall proceed to the latter Yet I deferred the thing till I could learn that the Person on whose Ability you lean viz. Mr. G. was returning from London that he might be near at hand to furnish you with Answers to the intent I should not be calumniated as a Designer to surprize and lurch you Wherefore I now send these few Lines to desire you to provide your self of a satisfactory resolution about this Question or let me receive intimation how that satisfaction doth arise I abridge you not of liberty to consult with any other person that may add any thing to Mr. G. for I love Truth and am loath you should be carried away with Falshood and nothing will more content me than to receive an Answer of weight to this Paper which shall at this time onely touch a few doubts many more being reserved to be proposed when these are cleared At present I must tell you 1. What you are or must be taught to Believe 2 How hard it will be for you to Believe what you shall be so Taught In the former I 'll note the Doctrines Taught and the Method of Teaching them The latter viz. the Method I begin with That you may believe your Mind must be abstracted as much as possible it may from the judgment of your own Senses Now this method will be hard for you to submit to when you consider that it is about their proper object and your Senses duly disposed to give their judgment and the common Senses of Mankind concurring with yours But yet this will be yet harder to digest John 20.27 1 John 1.1 seeing this new method is directly contrary to the method which Christ used to instruct Thomas which was not to abstract his Mind from the judgment of his Senses but to employ his Mind about the judgment of his Senses The method also of St. John is not to abstract from the judgment of the Senses but he appeals to the judgment of the Senses to beget and confirm Faith Hence therefore the first Question will arise 1. Quest Why the method of your new Teachers is so opposite to the method of Christ and his Apostles Now to the Doctrines taught Three things most admirable are effected in the Eucharist by the words of Consecration which the Catholick Faith believes and confesseth without any doubting 1. That the true Body of Christ even the same which was born of the Virgin and now sits in Heaven at the right hand of the Father is contained in the Sacrament 2. That no substance of the Elements remains in it 3. That the Accidents which are perceived by the Senses are in a wonderful and inexplicable manner without any subject matter the substance of the Bread and Wine are so changed that they wholly cease to be but the Accidents even all of them of the Bread and Wine you may see and perceive which inhere in no substance but consists by themselves The proof of this follows Now the words of Christ are so plain in this matter that none in his sound mind can be ignorant what he must understand when he hears This is my Body Also the words of Paul are plain 1 Cor. 11. Let a man examine c. He that eatech and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh damnation to himself not discerning the Lords body For what need is there of such weighty words if there were nothing in the Sacrament but a memory and sign of Christ's Passion as Hereticks teach The same thing Paul more at large explained in these words The cup of blessing which we bless is it not the communication of the bloud of Christ You hear the Doctrine and the Proof of it from Christ and Paul now for the explication of these words to make out the proof These places of Scripture must be so explained by the Pastors and this must chiefly be taught that nothing of doubtfulness or uncertainty is left of what was above-said especially when the Authority of the Church of God hath interpreted these things the knowledge of which we attain two ways 1. When we consult with the Fathers who flourished from the beginning of the Church and so downward 2. When we see the contrary Opinion condemned This Doctrine thus proved by Scripture and the Scripture they explained you must believe Now to shew how hard it will be for you to believe this these following Questions are proposed 1. Quest Whether the words of Christ being Spiritual it may not suffice to take them in a Spiritual Sense but it be necessary to take them in the literal sense of his natural body and that without a Figure 2. Quest Whether the first Article be not sufficiently believed when the Body of Christ is believed to be really truly present even the same Body but not in the same manner 3. Quest Whether the second and third Articles be of equal Truth and Certainty with the first and must so be believed 4. Quest Whether the words cited for proof are intended to prove all Three Articles equally or the First only and the Second and Third are left to shift for themselves 5. Quest Whether every one in his wits can see such inforcement in the words of Christ or Paul without the especial helps of the Churches Authority and the Fathers 6. Quest If not then whether Reason willeth that not the Church in the Apostles times should be principally heard in this Authoritative Interpretation 7. Quest Whether you are truly taught that we Hereticks say That in the Sacrament there is nothing else but a Memory and a Sign of Christs Passion And whether the Fathers that prove there is something more and condemn such as say there is nothing more do prove any thing against us or do condemn us I should now think it reasonable to request of you to return to us until these difficulties be overcome But if Mr. G. will not yield to this request then I pray you improve all your interest with him for some satisfaction for your self and me what is his true and serious sense of this whole matter and put him to it on his own behalf in this manner viz. Sir seeing if I eat unworthily I eat judgment to my self If I discern not the Lords Body in eating I eat unworthily If I discern not the very same Body form'd in the Womb c. If I discern not accidents without a substance c. I discern not the Lords Body Therefore that I may be confirmed I beseech you assure me concerning your self who are strong in Faith whereas I am but weak Your self who know your own intention in Consecrating whereas I know it not Your self who have looked upon and examined the Elements that they are not corrupted whereas I have not Your self who have uttered the words of Consecration whereas I perhaps heard not perhaps understood not I say That you your self are so right in your wits as to perceive