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A58389 Reflections upon two books, the one entituled, the case of allegiance to a King in possession the other, an answer to Dr. Sherlock's Case of allegiance to sovereign powers, in defence of the case of allegiance to a King in possession, on those parts especially wherein the author endeavours to shew his opinion to be agreeable to the laws of this land. In a letter to a friend. 1691 (1691) Wing R734; ESTC R200522 45,353 73

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If I should grant that they have no Power of meeting to that purpose without the consent of the Usurper which I do not and so that this is a defect in our Laws and one of the cases against which a certain Remedy is unavoidably wanting in a mixt Monarchy yet I may venture to say That if the right of the dispossessed Prince be apparent all the Attempts of the Usurper to suppress it will at long run prove unsuccessful We see the Parliament of H. 6. and Convention of 1660. did find Opportunities of doing right to the injured Prince and without them the People whether they ought or no is one case but I think I may venture to say they will not long bear it If Usurpations do put us under these great Difficulties the natural Influence that the Consideration of that will have is that the Nation will submit unto and suffer but very few of them and 't is a very unlikely thing that the Rightful Prince should be turned out without great Misadministrations But after all I think no one need be ashamed of owning it to be his Opinion That if it should unhappily fall out to be the Case that one of that Family to whom the Crown was at first limited should be injuriously dispossessed of that Crown and the restoring him to it could be compassed by no means but such as would lay a Foundation for daily Disturbances and Civil Wars in future Reigns that that Person 's Right which was given him by the Laws ought not to be set in Competition with the Laws themselves and the Peace and Quiet of the whole Body of the People The Consequences which our Author draws from his Supposition that Cromwell had been made King which I confess would have been very mischievous and intolerable move me not at all In the first place notwithstanding what he affirms That it was almost come to a Conclusion that he should take that Title upon him I can't grant that there was any likelihood of his being a King in Possession entitled to the Protection and benefit of this Law Perhaps he might have made an Interest in some of the Army though most People believe the fear of their falling off from him kept him from it to have proclaimed him and in the House of Commons or Parliament as they called themselves to have submitted to him But I have before said a bare proclaiming one King won't do the business for then we may have as many Kings de facto as there are Rabbles of People in the Nation But to make one who had no visible Right before such a King de facto as may claim a Temporary Allegiance from the People he must have not only the Power of the Nation in his Hands and the Administration of Justice in his Name but what Cromwell as he had been forced to manage matters for the getting himself into that monstrous lawless Power he enjoyed could never have obtained the Submission of the remaining parts of the Constitution the Lords and Commons to him as their King and Governour Till that is done I know no Obligation any private man is under of paying Allegiance to such a King never having by himself or his Representatives submitted to him As on the other side when that is done and I receive the benefit of Protection from him till his Possession which protects me is lost or the Submission which was made for me revoked and undone by an equal Power I know nothing that can justifie my thinking my self wiser and more knowing than my own and the whole Peoples Representatives and from such an overweening Opinion of my self endeavouring the Disturbance or Subversion of a Government well and fully setled But why in the second place should such Suppositions of what may be be used as Arguments May we not from the Observation That no instance like that did ever yet happen to set Conscience so upon the Rack reasonably attribute some share in the Guidance of those Affairs to the Providence of a good God who hitherto has and as we have reason from that Experience to hope unless by our Unthankfulness we draw the contrary on our selves will still continue to deliver us from such Difficulties and Snares If all those Advantages which our Author reckons up would have follow'd his obtaining the Crown and if it was in his Power to have taken it when he had pleas'd Does not the neglecting those Advantages seem to proceed from an Infatuation as if Providence had determined against him And ought not that rather to strike an Awe and Reverence on the Minds of all People towards their present Majesties Persons and Government every step of whose Undertaking and Progress till their Advancement to the Throne seems to be a Series of Providences and the Effects of whose Government are such as a Man need not stand in fear of being taxed with Impiety if he attribute the Cause of them immediately to God's own Hand Before our Author comes to Answer Objections which I 'll not meddle with but leave them to shift for themselves he produces Two Arguments to prove his Assertion and it would be unjust not to take notice Case f. 48. of them The first I have granted already and it makes nothing against me The second I will but just mention and leave the Reader to make his own Observations upon it 'T is the difficulty of knowing Case f. 53. who is a King in Possession It were a great hardship to put the determining that upon the Judgment of ordinary Subjects Persons of mean Understanding and therefore for that Reason their Allegiance shall not be due there but 't is nothing to require it of the same Persons that they be perfect Masters of our Fundamental Constitution and the Pedigree of the Royal Family that they know Who it is Case f. 56 in whom the Crown is vested deemed and judged hy the Law These are things more obvious to them than what they see and feel every day This Sir I think sufficient to be said to what is urged from the Laws of the Land in the Case or Defence as far as they concern the Position I undertook to maintain Perhaps the Reader may think I have copied the Author's Pattern in offering things which seem to prove more than the Question according to the strictness with which I have stated it required I am not sensible that I have omitted the taking notice of any one Argument that is materially offered from the Laws in conttradiction to my point I am sure if I have it was past over for want of taking notice of not by design as what I thought could not receive an Answer But Sir when I have said this I must bespeak all the favourable Allowances your good Nature can give to what I have written to the ill handling a good Cause that would have born a much better Defence in the substantial Parts of it and more to the Faults that I have been guilty of in the manner of it An ordinary Reader would hardly pardon the latter because he will think a little care might have avoided them and I am sensible how guilty I am of the worst of that kind abundance of Repetitions which must be tedious and uneasie All the excuse that I can offer for my self is that the manner of writing in the way of Reflexion which obliges me often to take notice of the same Arguments used to different purposes and not as an entire Discourse has made that unavoidable And Sir you know I have not had time enough allowed me to make it short Whose Fault that is You can best tell And therefore whatever others do you in Justice must excuse SIR Your Humble Servant Books lately Printed for William Rogers A Sermon Preached at VVhitehall before the Queen on the Monthly Fast Day September 16. 1691. 4 to A Persuasive to Frequent Communion in the Holy Sacrament of the Lord's Supper Eighth Edition 12 mo Both by his Grace John Lord Archbishop of Canterbury A Sermon Preach'd on the 28th of June at St. Andrews Holbourn by John Moor D. D. Bishop of Norwich Elect when he took his leave of that Parish 40. A Sermon Preached at St. Mary le Bow on Sunday the 5th of July 1691. at the Consecration of the Most Reverend Father in God John Lord Archbishop of York and the Right Reverend Fathers in God John Lord Bishop of Norwich Richard Lord Bishop of Peterborough Edward Lord Bishop of Gloucester by Joshua Clarke Chaplain to the Right Reverend Father in God the Lord Bishop of Norwich 40. The Necessity of Serious Consideration and Speedy Repentance as the only way to be safe both living and dying By Clement Elis Rector of Kirkby in Nottinghamshire 80. Sir VV. Petty's Political Anatomy of Ireland 80. The Case of the Allegiance due to Soveraign Powers Stated and resolved according to Scripture and Reason and the Principles of the Church of England with a more particular Respect to the Oath lately Enjoined of Allegiance to their Present Majesties King William and Queen Mary The 6th Edition 4 to A Vindication of the Case of Allegiance due to Soveraign Powers in Reply to an Answer to a late Phamphlet Intituled Obedience and Submission to the Present Government demonstrated from Bishop Overal's Convocation book with a Postscript in Answer to Dr. Sherlock's Case of Allegiance c. 4 to A Sermon Preached at VVhite-Hall before the Queen on the 17th of June 1691. being the Fast day 4 to A Practical Discourse concerning Death the fifth Edition 80. A Practical discourse concerning a Future Judgment 80. will be Published in a few days These five by the Reverend Dr. Sherlock Dean of St. Pauls Master of the Temple and Chaplain in Ordinary to their Majesties LICENS'D October 10. 1691. J. Fraser ERRATA Page 11. Line 16. for Nation read Notion p. 30. l. 1. read so that p. 30. l. 14. for trying r. seying p. 31. l. 23. for Majesties r Matters