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A16571 All the examinacions of the constante martir of God M. Iohn Bradforde before the Lorde Chauncellour, B. of Winchester the B. of London, [and] other co[m]missioners: whervnto ar annexed, his priuate talk [and] conflictes in prison after his condemnacion, with the Archbishop of york, the B. of Chichester, Alfonsus, and King Philips confessour, two Spanishe freers, and sundry others. With his modest learned and godly answeres. Anno. Domini 1561 Bradford, John, 1510?-1555. 1561 (1561) STC 3477; ESTC S116578 60,488 240

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whiche seemed to knowe hym and perceyuyng his entente resysted as muche as he coulde in the meane tyme priuelye geuynge Bourne warnynge by hys Seruaunte that hee shoulde auoyde the presente daunger as soone as he could Bourne streight waie flying vnto the Maior once againe escaped death yet not thinking himselfe safe ynoughe he desired Bradford that he woulde vouchsafe to be present and help him til he mighte hide himselfe in some house that he might be safe from all feare and daunger which gētlenes he willingly perfourmed that is to saie he couered him behinde with his gowne till by the Maior and the Sherifes he was safely brought into Poules scole On this wise the railing preacher against king Edward by Bradfordes helpe escaped death which for his raylinge he had deserued whiche thing thei whiche woulde haue bene reuenged of him dyd not dissemble for one of them opēly testifying to Bradford said Ah Bradforde Bradforde dooest thou saue his lyfe whiche will not spare thyne goe too I geue thee his lyfe but if it were not for thy sake I woulde thrust thys beast through with my sworde Mayster Bradforde the same daye after dinner preaching to the Londoners in the chiefe streate of the citie did sharply rebuke them for this sedicious and tumultuouse behauiour waytinge afterwarde at London what should be thend of this businesse Thou hast now reader y e whole discourse of Bradfordes facte whereby thou dooest vnderstande what reward he deserued of equall Iudges for so godly seruice Nowe heare what rewarde he receiued Thre daies after this was done he was sente for by the counsell bishoppes to the towre where the Queene than laye and was compelled before them to purge hymselfe of sedicion and heresy surely by the same reason that y e lambe sometyme was accused by y e wolfe for troubling the water in which he dronke a greate deale lower than the woolfe not that he had offended but that the woolfe was an hungred not that hee hadde troubled the water but that he was not hable to resyste the other whiche troubled it in deede After the same sorte was Bradforde sette a fyer wyth the flame of that Sedicion whyche hee alone dyd quenche and so commaunded to prysone where abydynge almoste twoo yeares together hee sustayned manye conflictes with the Papistes and other sectes he confirmed manye weake and coumforted the afflycted he wrote also manye thynges as hee hadde leysure and got opportunitye by stealth And among other thynges hee sente manye Epistles the copies whereof are extante to the Citizens of London to the Vnyuersite and towne of Cambridge to the townes of Walden and Manchester also to hys twoo brethren theyr wyues and famylyes in whiche Epistles the syncere zeale of hys Christyan heart and godlines doth marueilously appeare At lengthe after long labours sorowes he was priuily ledde from the counter by night to Newgate The next daie earlye in the morninge he was brought foorth into Smithfield with an other younge manne called Ihō Lyefe being eightene yeres olde he was there burnte At London the firste of Iulii Anno M.D.LV. ¶ The effect of M. Iohn Bradfordes examinacion before the Lord Chanceller B. of Winchester the B. of London and others in commission the .22 of Aprill Anno. Domini .1555 AFter the Lord Chancellor and the residew of the Queenes councel in commission with him had ended their talke with master Farrar late bishop of S. Dauies the vndermarshal of the kings Bench was commaunded to bring in maister Bradford who being come in to the presence of the counsel sitting at a table he kneling down on his knee but immediately by my lord Chauncelor was bidden to stand vp and so he did Whē he was risen the lord Chauncelor earnestly loked vpon him to haue be lyke ouerfaced him but he gaue no place that is he ceased not in like maner to loke on the lorde Chancelor stil and continuallye saue y e once he caste his eyes to heauen warde sighing for gods help and so outfaced him as they say Thē the Lorde Chauncelor as it were amased and some thing troubled spake thus to hym in effecte that of long tyme he had bene imprysoned iustly for his behauioure at Poules crosse the .xiii. of Auguste Anno. 1554. for his false prechinge and arrogancye takinge vppon hym to preache withoute aucthoritie But nowe quoth hee the tyme of mercye is come and therefore the Queenes highnesse myndyng to offer vnto you mercy hath by vs sente for you to declare and geue the same if so bee ye will with vs retourne And quoth he yf you wyll dooe as we haue done you shall finde as we haue founde I warraunte you These were the summe and euen in maner the words he spake To these woordes maister Bradford spake after reuerent obeysaunce made in thys maner My Lorde and Lordes all I confesse that I haue beene longe prisoned and with humble reuerence be it spoken vniustlye for that I dyd nothynge sediciouslye falselye or arrogantlye in worde or fact by preching or otherwise but rather sought peace al godly quietnes as an obedient faithful subiecte bothe in going aboute to saue the bishoppe of Bathe now the● M. Bourne the preacher at y e crosse and in preaching for quietnes accordingly At these wordes or rather before he had fullye finished them the lorde Chauncellor some thing snuffed and spake with an admiracion y t there was a loude lie For quoth he the fact was sedicious as you my lord of Londō can beare witnes you saye trewe my lorde quoth the bishop of Lōdon I sawe him with mine owne eyes when he tooke vpon him to rule and leade the people malypertly therby declaring y t he was the authour of the sedicion Heare Iohn Bradforde replied sayd that notwithstandinge my lorde bishops seyng sayinge y t he had tolde was the trueth as one daye quoth he my lord god almightye shall reueile to all the world whē we all shall come and appeare before him In the meane season because I cannot be beleued of you I must and am ready to suffer as now your sayīgs so whatsoeuer God shall licence you to doe vnto me I know quoth my lord Chācellor then thou haste a gloriouse tonge godlye shewes thou makest but all is lyes that thou doest And againe I haue not forgotten how stubburne thou wert when thou werte before vs in the Towre whether thou wast committed to prison concerning relygion I haue not forgotten thy behauiour and talk wher through worthely thou hast bene kepte in prison as one y t would haue done more hurt then I wil speake of My Lorde quoth Bradforde as I sayd I say again that I stād as before you so before god one day we shall al stand before him The trueth then will be the truth though you wyl not now so take it Yea my lorde quoth he I dare saye that my lorde of Bathe M. Bourne will witnes with me y t I
Chancelor doest thou not answer haste thou written such letters as here is obiected against the As I said my lord quod Bradforde that I haue written I haue written I stande nowe before you whiche eyther can laye my letters to my charge or not if you lay any thīg to my charge that I haue writtē if I denye it I am then a lier we shall neuer haue done with thee I perceiue now saith my lord Chācelor be short be short wylt thou haue mercy I praye God quoth Bradforde geue me his mercie if therwith you wil extend yours I wyll not refuse it but otherwise I wil not Heare was now much a dooe one speaking thus and other speaking that of his arrogancye in refusing the Queenes pardon whiche she so louyngly ▪ dyd offer vnto him wherto Bradforde aunswered thus my lordes yf I may liue as a quiete subiect withoute clogge of conscience I shal hartely thanke you for your pardō yf otherwyse I behaue my selfe then I am in daunger of the faute In the meane season I aske no more but the benefite of a subiect till I be conuinced of transgressiō If I cannot haue this as hitherto I haue not had goddes good wyll be doone Vppon these wordes my lord Chauncelor begon a lōg proces of the false doctrine wherewith people were deceiued in the dayes of kyng Edwarde and so tourned the ende of his talk to Bradforde sayīg how sayst thou My lord quoth Bradforde the doctrine taught i● K●●g Edwardes daies was gods pure religion the whiche as I then beleued so doe I nowe more beleue then euer I didde And therein I am more confirmed and ready to declare it by gods grace euen as he will to the worlde then I was when I firste came into prisone What religion meane you quoth the bishop of Durisme in Kynge Edwardes daies what yeare of his raigne Forsoth quoth Bradforde euen that same yere of hys raigne my Lorde that the kynge dyed and I was preacher Heare wrote maister Secretary Bourn I wotte not what Nowe after a lytle pawsyng my Lorde Chauncelloure begynneth agayne to declare that the doctryne taught in Kynge Edwardes dayes was heresye vsynge for probacion and demonstra●ion therof no Scryppure nor reason but thys that i● ended wyth Treason and Rebellion so that quoth he the verye ende were ynoughe to improue that doctryne to bee naughte Ah my Lorde quoth Bradford that you would enter in to Gods Sanctuarie and marke the ende of this present doctrine you nowe so magnifie What meanest thou by that quoth he I wene we shal haue a snatche of rebellion euen now No quoth Bradforde my lord I meane no suche ende as you woulde gather I meane an ende whiche none seeth but thei y t enter into gods Sanctuarie If a man loke but on presēt thyngs he wil sone deceiue hīself Heare now dyd my Lorde Chauncellor offer againe mercye and Bradford answered as before mercye w t gods mercy should be welcome but otherwise he would none Whervpon the said lord Chancellor dyd ring a litle bel be like to cal in sōe bodye for there was present none in maner but onelye these before named and the bishop of Worcester Now whē one was come in it is beste quoth maister Secretarye Burne y t you geue y e keper a charge of this fellowe So was the vndermarshall called in you shall take this man to you quoth my Lord Chauncelor kepe him close without conference with any man but by your knowledge and suffer him not to wryte anye letters c. For he is of an other maner of charge vnto you now then he was before and so thei departed the said Bradford lokyng as cherefully as any man coulde doe declaring thereby euen a desire to geue his lyfe for confirmacion of that he hath taughte and written And surely yf he dooe so his death wyll destroye more of the Philistines as Sampson dyd then euer he dydde in hys lyfe God almyghtie keepe hym and al his felowes bounde for the lordes sake Amen ¶ The effect of the second examinacion of Iohn Bradforde in the temple of S. Marie Oueries before the lorde Chauncelour and diuers other byshoppes the .xxix. daye of Ianuarii .1555 AFter the excommunycaciō of Ihō Rogers Iohn Bradford was called in standynge before the lord Chancelour other bishops set w t him the said lord Chācelor spake thus in effect That wheretofore the .22 of Ianuarie they called the sayde Bradford before thē offred vnto hym y e Queenes pardō although he had contēned y e same further he said y t he would stifly stoutly maintaine defende therronious doctrine holdē in y e daies of kyng Edward the .6 yet in cōsideraciō that the Queenes highnes is wōderfull merciful they thoughte good eftsones to offer the same mercy againe before it be to late Therfore ꝙ my lorde Chauncellour nowe aduise you well there is yet space and grace tofore wee so procede that you be committed to the seculer power as we muste do and wil do if you will not follow thexample of M. Barlowe Cardmaker whō he there cōmended adding oratoriously amplificacions to moue the saide Bradford to yeld to the religiō presētly set forth After the lord Chauncellors long talke Bradford began on this sorte to speake My Lord quoth he my lordes al as now I stand in your syght before you so I humbly beseche your honors to consider that you sit in y e sight of the lord who as Dauid doeth witnesse is in the congregacions of iudges and fittes in the myddest of thē iudgeing And as you woulde youre place to bee nowe of vs taken as gods place so demonstrate your selues to folowe hym in your sittyng that is seke no giltlesse bloude nor hunte not by questiōs to bring into y e snare them whiche are out of the same At this presente I stande before you giltie or giltlesse if giltie thē procede and geue sentence accordinglye if giltles then geue me the benefite of a subiect whiche hitherto I could not haue Heare the Lorde Chauncellour replyed and saide that the said Bradford began with a true sentence Deus stetit in sinagoga c. but ꝙ he this and all thy gesture declareth but Hypocrisie and vain glory And further he made much a do to purge himself that he sought no giltles bloud and so beganne a lōg processe howe that Brodfordes facte at Poules crosse was presūptuous arrogant and declared a taking vpō him to lead the people whiche coulde not but tourne to much disquietnes ꝙ he in y t thou speakīg to Bradford was so prefract and stout in religion at that presēt For y e which as thou wast thē committed to prison so hitherto haste thou bene kepte in prisō where thou haste written letters to no litle hurte to the Queenes people as by the reporte of therle of Darby in the parlement house was credeblye reported And to this be added y t the said
Bradford answered that how so euer hrs honor toke him yet was he assured of his meanīg that no feare but y e feare of periury made him aferd to aunswere For as for death my lord ꝙ he as I knowe ther ar .12 houres in the day so w t y e lord my time is appointed And whē it shalbe his good tyme then shall I departe hence But in the meane season ꝙ he I am safe ynough though al the worlde had sworne my death Into his hādes I haue cōmitted it his good will be done And ꝙ Bradford sauīg mine oth I wil answer you in this behalf that the othe agaīst the. B of Rome was not nor is not against charitie Howe proue you y t ꝙ my lord Chācelor Forsoth ꝙ Bradford I proue it thus That is not against charitie whiche is not against gods worde but this othe against the bishop of Romes aucthoritie in Englande is not against gods worde therefore it is not against charitie Is it not against gods woorde ꝙ my Lorde Chancellour that a man shoulde take a kyng to be supreme heade of the church in his realme No ꝙ Bradford sauing styl mine othe it is not against gods worde but with it being taken in suche sence as it may be wel taken that is attributing to the kinges power y t soueraintie in all his dominions I praye you ꝙ the lorde Chauncelour where finde you that I finde it in manye places ꝙ Bradforde but specially in the .13 to the Romaines where Saint Paule writeth euery soule to be obediēt to the superiour power But what power que gladium gestat y e power verely which beareth the sweord which is not the spiritual but the temporall power As Chrisostome full well noteth ꝙ Bradforde vpon the same place whiche youre honor knoweth better then I. He Chrisostome I meane ther plainly sheweth y t bishops prophetes and apostles owe obedience to y e temporall maiestrates Here yet more the Lorde Chancelour was stered and said howe that Bradforde went about to deny al obedience to the Queene for his oth so ꝙ he this mā woulde make gods woord a warrant of disobedience For he will aunswere the Queene on this sorte that when she sayeth nowe sweare to the B. of Rome or obey his aucthoritye No wil he saie for I am then forsworne and so make the Queene no Queene No ꝙ Bradforde I go not about to deny all obediēce to the Queenes highnes by deniyng obedience in this part yf shee shoulde demaunde it For I was sworne to king Edward not simply that is not onely concernyng his owne person but also concerning his successours And therefore in denying to do the Quenes request herein I denye not her authoritie nor become dishobedient Yes that doest thou ꝙ my Lorde Chancelor And so he beganne to tell a longe tale howe if a manne shoulde make an othe to pay a Cli. by such a day and the manne to whom it was due would forgeue the debt The debter woulde saie no you cannot do it for I am forsworne thē c. Here Bradford desired my lord Chauncellor not to trifle it saying y t he wondred hys honor would make solemne othes made to god trifles in that sorte And make so great a matter concernīg vowes as thei cal it made to the bishop for mariage of priestes At these wordes y e lord Chācelour was much offended said he did not trifle but ꝙ he thou goest about to denie obedience to the Queene which now requireth obedience to the B. of Rome No my lord ꝙ Bradford I dooe not denye obedience to the Queene yf you would discerne betwene genus and species Because I may not obey in this to reason ergo I maye not obey in the other is not firme As if a mā let one sel a pece of his inheritāce yet this notw tstādyng al his inheritāce is not let or sold And so in this case all obedyence I denye not because I denie obedience in this branche I wil none of those similitudes said the lorde Chancellour I would not vse thē ꝙ Bradforde if that you wente not about to perswade y e people I meane that which I neuer mēt For I my self not onely meane obedience but wil geue ensample ▪ of all most humble obedience to y e Queenes highnes so long as she requireth not obedience agaynste god No no ꝙ my lorde Chauncelour al men maie perceiue wel inough your meaning There is no man though he bee sworne to the king doth therfore break his othe yf afterwardes he be sworne to the Frenche king and to themperour It is true my Lorde ꝙ Bradforde but the cases bee not like For here is an excepciō thou shalt not sweare to y e. B. of Rome at any time If in like maner we were sworne thou shalt not serue themperour c. you see there were some alteracion and more doubt But ꝙ Bradford I beseche your honour remembre what ye youre selfe haue written answeringe the obieccions here against in youre boke de vera obedientia Vincat modo domini verbi veritas Let Gods woorde and the reasons thereof beare the bell awaie Heare the lord Chauncelor was throughlye moued and saide styll howe that Bradforde had written sedicious letters and peruerted the people thereby and did stoutly stand as though he would defende the erronious doctrine in kynge Edwardes tyme against all men now ꝙ he he saieth he dare not answer I haue written no sedicious letters ꝙ Bradforde I haue not peruerted y e people But that which I haue writtē spokē y t wil I neuer deny by gods grace And wher your L. saith I dare not answer you y t al mē may know I am not afraid sauīg mine oth ask me what you wyl I will plainelye make you answer by gods grace although I now see my lyfe lyeth theron But O lord ꝙ he into thy hands I cōmit it come what come will onelye sanctifie thy name in me as in one instrumente of thy grace Amen Now aske what you wil ꝙ Bradford you shall se I am not afraid by gods grace flatly to answer Well then ꝙ my lord Chauncelour how say you to the blessed sacrament do you not beleue there Christe to bee presente concernynge his naturall bodye My lorde ꝙ Bradforde I doe beleue Christ to be corporally presēt in his sacrament duely vsed Corporally I say that is in such sorte as he woulde I meane Christe is there corporally presēt vnto faith Vnto faith ꝙ my lorde Chaunceloure wee muste haue manye moe words to make it more plain you shal so ꝙ Bradford but first geue me leaue to speake twoo wordes Speake on quoth my lord Chancellour I haue bene now a yeare and almoste thre quarters in prysone ꝙ Bradforde and of all thys tyme you neuer questyoned wyth me heare aboutes when I myghte haue spoken my conscyence frankely wythout peryll But nowe you haue a law to hāg vp and put to
death if a man answer freely and not to your appetite And so you nowe come to demaund this question Ah my lord ꝙ Bradforde Christe vsed not th●s waye to bring men to faythe No more did the Prophets or the Apostles Rembeēr what Barnarde writeth to Eugenius the Pope Apostolos lego stetisse iudicandos sedisse iudicantes non legi Hoc erit illud fuit ▪ c. Here the Chācelor was appeased as it semed spake moste gentlye that he vsed not this meanes It was not my doyng although some there be ꝙ he that thinke this to be the beste waie I for my parte ꝙ he haue bene chalenged for being to gētle often times The which thing the B. of London confirmed so did almoste all the audience that he hadde been euer to mylde and to gentle At whiche wordes Bradforde spake thus My Lorde ꝙ he I praye you stretche out your gentlenes that I maye fele it for hytherto I neuer felte it As sone as be hadde spoken thus the lord Chauncellour belyke thynkynge Bradforde woulde haue hadde mercye and pardone as Cardmaker and Barlow hadde sayd that wyth all hys hearte not onely he but the Queenes highnesse woulde stretche oute mercye yf wyth them hee woulde retourne Retourne my Lord quoth Bradforde God saue me from that goyng backe I meane it not so But I meane quoth he that I was three quarters of a yere in the Tower wythout paper penne or inke neuer in al that time nor sithē did I fele any gentlenes from you I haue rather loked for as I haue hitherto founde extremitie And ꝙ he I thank God I perceue now you haue kept me in prison thus long not for any matter you had but for mater you would haue Goddes good wil bee done Here was now diuerse tellīg my lorde it was diner time and so he rose vp leauing Bradforde speaking sayīg that in y e after noone thei would speak more with him And so was he had into y e vestry was there al that daye tyll darke nighte and so was conueyed agayne to prisone declaringe by his countenance great ioy in god the whiche God increase in him ¶ The effect and summe of the last examinacion of that faithfull instrument of God Iohn Bradforde in the Churche of Saincte Marie Oueries the 29. daie of Ianuarii .1555 AFter the excommunicacion of Laurēce Saūders Iohn Bradford was called in and being broughte before the Lorde Chauncelour and other bishops there sittinge the Lorde Chancelour began to speak thus in effecte that Bradforde beynge now eftsones com before thē wold aunswere with modestie and humylitye and conforme hymselfe to the Catholyke Churche wyth theym And so yet myghte he find mercy because thei would be loth to vse extremite Therfore he concluded with an exhortaciō y t Bradforde woulde recante his doctrine After the lorde Chancellor had ended his longe oracion Bradforde began to speak thus As yesterday I besought your honour to set in your sighte the maiestie and presence of God to follow him which seketh not to subuert the simple by subtil questiōs so quoth he I humblye beseche euery one of you to daie for y t you knowe that giltles bloud wil crie vengeaunce And thus quoth he I praie not your Lordship to do as one that taketh vpon me to cōdemne you vtterly herin but that you might bee the more admonyshed to doe that which none doth so much as he should do For our nature is so much corrupt that we are very obliuious and forgetfull of god Again ꝙ Bradford as yesterdaie I pretended my othe and othes againste y e B. of Rome that I should neuer cōsent to the practising of any iurisdiccion for him or in his behalfe in the realme of Englande so againe this day lest I should be periured And last of al as yesterday the answer I made was by protestacion and sauynge my oth so would I your honours should knowe that myne shal be this daie And this I do that when death whiche I loke for at youre handes shall come I shall not be troubled with the giltines of periury At these words y e lord Chancelor was wroth said that they had geuē him respite to deliberate vntil this day whether he would recāt the heresies of the blessed sacrament whiche yesterday ꝙ the lord Chancelor before vs you vttred My lord ꝙ Bradforde you gaue me no time of any such delyberacion neither did I any thing of the sacrament which you didde disalow For when I had declared a presence of Christ to bee there to the faithful you went frō the matter to purge your selfe y t you were not crewel and so went to dinner What I perceiue ꝙ my lord Chācelour we must begin all agayne with thee d●d I not yesterday tell thee plainely that thou madest a conscience where none should be Did I not make it plaine that the othe against the Bishop of Rome was an vnlawfull othe No ꝙ Bradford In dede my lord you said so ꝙ he but proued is not nor neuer can do Oh lord god ꝙ the lorde Chauncelour what a felowe arte thou Thou wouldeste goe about to bringe into the peoples heades that we al the lords of the parliamēt house y e knights Burgiesses and all the whole is periured Oh what an heresye is thys Here good people ye may see what a Churlishe hereticke thys felowe is If I shoulde make an othe I would neuer helpe my brother or lende hym money in hys nede were this a good aunswere to tell my neyghboure desyringe my helpe that I hadde made an othe to the contrarye I coulde not dooe it Heare the lorde Chauncelor made muche a do a long time was spēt about othes which wer good which wer euil he capciously asking of Bradford often answer of things cōcerning othes which Bradford would not geue simply but with distincciō wherat the lord Chancelour was sore offended But Bradford styll kept him at the baye that the oth againste the B. of Rome was an vnlawfull othe vsing therto the Chancelors owne boke de Vera obedientia ▪ For confirmaciō at the length thei came to this issue who should iudge of the lawfulnes of of the othes And Bradford said the worde of God accordynge to Christes owne woordes Iohn .12 saying My word shal iudge And according to the testimonie of Esai .2 Micheas .4 That goddes word coming out of Ierusalē shal geue sentēce amongst y e gentiles By these wordes my lord ꝙ he I will proue the othe against y e B. of Romes auctorite to be a good a godli a lawful oth So therof the lord Chauncelor left his hold sayīg y t as y e other day he p̄tēded denyal of the Queenes aucthoritie obedience to her highnesse so did he now But Bradford as the day before proued that obedience in this point are particuler to the Quenes highnes If she shold demaūde an othe to the B. of Rome beinge denied it
was a generall deniall of her aucthoritie and obedience to her no more quoth he then the gift or lease of a sole pece of a mans inheritance proueth a sale gift or lease of the whole inheritance And thus muche a doe was made about the matter The lord Chancelor talking muche vsing many examples of dette of going out of the towne to morow by othe yet tarying tyll Fridaye suche like whiche triflinge talke Bradford did touche saying that it was a wonder that his honour did wey cōscience no more in this and would be so earnest in vowes for mariage of Priestes made to bishops and bee carelesse for Solemne othes made to God and the prince Summa this was the ende the lorde Chauncelour sayde the Queene might dispence with it did it to al the whole realme But Bradford said the Queenes highnes could do no more but remitte her right And as for the oth made to God she coulde neuer remytte For as muche as it was made to God At which woordes the lord Chancelour chafed wonderfully and said that in plaine sentence he slandered the hole realme of periury and therfore ꝙ he to y e people you may se how this felow taketh vppon hym to haue more knowledge cōscience then al the wise men of England yet ꝙ he he hath no conscience at al. Wel ꝙ Bradforde my lord let al the stāders by see who hath conscyence I haue bene a yere a half in pryson now before all this people declare wherfore I was prisoned or what cause you had to punish me ▪ you sayde the other daye in youre owne house my Lord of London witnessing with you that I toke vppon me to speake to the people vndesyred There he sytteth by your Lordship I meane my lord Bishop of Bath which desired me hīself for y e passiō of Christ I wold speake to the people vpon whose wordes I commyng in to the pulpit had like to haue bene slaine w t a naked dagger which was hurled at me I thinke for it touched my sleaue He eftsones praied me I woulde not leaue him I promised as long as I liued I would take hurt y e day before him and so went out of the pulpit at length broughte him safe to a house Besides this in y e after noone I prech at Bow church goyng vp into the pulpitte one wylled me not to reꝓue y e people for y e fact for ꝙ he you shal neuer come downe aliue if you do it And yet ꝙ Bradford notwithstanding I did in y e Sermond reproue their fact called it sedicion at the least .xx. tymes For all whiche my doinge I haue receiued this recompence prison a yere a half more death now which you go about Let al mē ꝙ Bradford nowe iudge wher consciēce is In speking these words ther was y e ēdeuored to haue letted it but Bradford spake on let thē speake what they would And the lord Chancelour said y t for al his faire talke his fact at y e Crosse was naught No ꝙ Bradford my fact was good as you youre selfe did bear witnes w t me For when I was first before you in y e Towre you your selfe did saye y t the facte was good but ꝙ you the mynde was euyll wel then ꝙ I my lord in that you alowe my facte condemne my mynde in it I can not otherwise declare my mynd to mā thē by saying doīg god I trust one day will open to my comforte what my mynde was and what yours is Here the lord Chauncelour was offended saide that he neuer said so I ꝙ hee had not so litle wit I trow as not to discerne betwixt meaning doyng and so brought forth litle to y e purpose many examples that mē construe thynges not by the meanynge of mā but by their doings But whē this coulde not serue then cometh he to another matter and said he was put in prison at the first because he woulde not yelde nor bee confirmable to the Queenes religion Why quoth Bradford your honour knoweth that you would not then reasō with me in religiō but you saide a time should afterward be found out whē I should be talked w t al. But ꝙ Bradford if it were as your lordship saith y t I was put in for religion in y t my religiō was thē auctorised by the publike lawes of the realm could cōsciēce punish me or cast me into prisō th●rfore Wherfore let al mē iudge in whō conscience wanteth Here cōmeth forth M. Chāberlain of Woodstocke said to the Lord Chancelor y t Bradforde had bene a seruing mā was with M. Harington True ꝙ the lord Chancelour did deceiue his M. of .27 poundes because of this he wēt to bee a gospeller and a preacher good people and yet you se how he pretendeth cōsciēce My lord ꝙ Bradford I set my fote to his fote whosoeuer he be y t cā come furth iustly vouch to mi face y t euer I deceiued my M. And as you ar chief iustices by office in Englād I desire iustice vpō them y t so slander me because they cannot proue it Here my lord Chauncelour M. Chamberlain wer stroke blanke said thei heard it but ꝙ the lord Chauncellour you haue an other maner of matter then this for you are an heretike yea quoth y e B. of Londō he did write letters to M Pendleton ▪ whiche knoweth his hand as wel as his own ▪ your honor quoth y e bishop to the lorde Chancelour did se them That is not true quoth Bradforde I dyd neuer write to Pendleton sithe I came into prisone therefore I am not iustlye spoken of yea but you indited it quoth the B. of Londō I did not quoth Bradforde nor know not what you meane that I offer to proue Here commeth a nother I trowe thei call him M. Allin one of the Clarks of the coūsell putting my lord in rememberance of letters sent into Lanke●shire It is true quoth the Lorde Chancelor vnto him for we haue his hand to shew I denie y e quoth Bradford y t you haue my hande to shewe of letters sent into Lankeshire otherwise then before you all I will stande vp and proue thē to be good and lawfull Here was al answered therefore the lorde Chancelour began a new matter Sir quoth he in my house the other day you did moste contempteously contempne the Queenes mercy further said you woulde maynteine the erronious doctrine in king Edwardes daies against al men this you did most stoutly Well quoth Bradforde I am glad that al men see you had no matter to imprison me afore that daie iustlye nowe saye I that I did not contētuously contemne y e Queenes mercy but wolud haue had it with gods mercy that is without saying and doynge anye thing against god and his truth ▪ And as for maintenaūce of doctrine because I
¶ All the examinacions of the Constante Martir of GOD M. Iohn Bradforde before the Lorde Chauncellour B. of Winchester the B. of London other cōmissioners Whervnto ar annexed his priuate talk conflictes in prison after his condemnacion with the Archbishop of york the B. of Chichester Alfonsus and King Philips confessour two Spanishe freers and sundry others With his modest learned and godly answeres Anno. Domini 1561 ¶ Cum Priuilegio ad imprimendum solum ¶ The Originall of his Lyfe IOhn Bradford borne in Lancastershire in Manchester a notable towne of that coūtrey was of his gētle parentes brought vp in vertue good learning euen from his very childhode among other praises of his good educacion he obtained as a chief gift the cōnynge redines of writing which knowledge was not onely an ornamēte vnto him but also an helpe to the necessary sustētaciō of his liuing About y e time was one sir Ihō Haringtō paymaster to king Henry the .8 which at Boloign by order of knighthode beīg muche renomed but yet by his own vertue a great deale more noble was ther suruier and paymaister of y e souldiers Who then had the seruice of master Bradford so kept him both in his family in his fauor that it can scarce be told whether liued to other ether more beloued or more profitable For Bradford both lerned many things of him also experience and practise of thinges more increased abounded On the otherside he whiche tried his seruice so faithful estemed him as a great treasure so loued him that in all his affaires he would alwaies bee coupled w t him In which trade of life when Bradford long time had bene cōuersāt y e way to riches semed not so farre of vnto him if he woulde haue set his mind to gathering of worldly riches but the immutable prouidēce of god drew him another way For after he was wery of this kind of life had made a diligēt and true accompt of his maisters affairs he desired licēce to depart and so wēt from him to the intent that he being rid of all other troubles he might serue Iesu Christe the secrete working of goddes calling so mouinge him which neuer suffred his minde to be at rest vntil it had fully wholy possessed him In so muche that after he had forsaken his master gotten him to the studye of the law his minde could not long abide in that trade of lawyers but that forsaking also that kinde of study in whiche he was not altogether ignorāt he departed from the temple where he studied y e cōmon and temporal lawes to Cābridge the temple of gods lawes to apply those studies which pertained more to the ministerye of gods church In the which with what vehemens and force he labored it is euident by this y t the first yere of his comimng thether he obteined degree of schole and was made maister of art gatte the fauour and admiration of all men that by and by he was chosē felowe of Penbrooke hall where he so daily profited by a certayn heauēly dexterite of his wit that as he was had in estimaciō of all good men so also he began to be welbeloued of Martin Bucer which hoped of no small fruit to procede from that his so godlye disposicion wherefore he counselled him to bestow his giftes and talent to the common profyte of instructynge Christes flock To whom when he had alledged hys weakenes and lack of learnyng Bucer answered that though he could not fede thē with fine cakes and white bread yet he should satisfye them with barly bread wer it neuer so course By whose often exhortacions Bradforde beynge boldened althoughe of his owne accord he was redy inough while he was altogether ī this thought it came happelye to passe that by D. Ridly bishoppe of London he was sent for from Cambridge to take vppon him ecclesiasticall orders and functiōs Of whom beyng first made deacon and afterward licensed to preach hauing a good stipēd out of the Cathedrall church of Poules he diligētly labored in the ministery of publike teching in y e church of god so lōg as kinge Edwarde liuinge there could be any place for godly teachers But when at lenght y e religiō changed by death of y e prince and he neuerthelesse exercised his office of preching an occasō was foūd and yet most vniust because that by the lawes it was not yet concluded that his mouth being stopped he was thruste into prison the occasion was this The xiii day of August one of the Popish sect called Bourn afterward bishop of Bathe railed with many wordes most shamefully vpō king Edward and the pure doctrine of the gospel in his time preched whoso behaued himself y t he had muche a doe to escape but y t the multitude of hearers would haue laide hande vpon him and pulled him out of y e pulpit which thīg they declared by manifest tokens For so great was the indignacion of al men kindled against him that neither with y e reuerence of the place nor by the aucthoritie of the bishop of London then present nor at the lawful commandement of the Maire this commocion of the people could be pacyfied But as for Bourn he was so stricken with feare bothe by the greatnes of the tumulte chieflye for a dagger whyche was throwne from the middes of the company against the pulpit that he durst not make an ende of hys sedicious sermond much like the Oracions that the Tribunes in Rome wer wonte to make nether would y e people suffer him he hūbly desired Bradford which stode behind his backe in the pulpit y t he would take his place speake to the people remembringe perchaunce and not vnwiselye vyrgils counsel That when among a people stoute It chaunceth to betide The multitude to make a fraye Of wit ful often wide That stones wepons flies a brode and what come first to hande Some sadman cōmeth that for his right Is loned of all the land Anon thei ceaste and silence make And doune thei laie there rage To harke at him and he with speche their woode minds doth aswage Neyther was his purpose disappointed for as sone as Bradford stode forth in y e middest al the tumulte was easilye appeased the people at the first sight of him wished him lōg helth crying Bradforde Bradforde god preserue thy life Bradford After y t with much attenciō thei heard him entreat of quiet christiā obedience Finally after his sermond ended the most part of thē went quietlye peasably home to their houses In the meane time amonge the residew which resisted for it could not bee that in so great offence of y e multitude al thinges could so quickly be quieted there was a certayn gētleman with his two seruants whiche comming vp the pulpytte staires rushed against the doore desyring to enter vpon Bourn I know not what he minded Than Bradforde
sought his sauegard with the perill of myne owne life I thank god therefore That is not trew quoth the bishop of Lōdon for I my self did see thee take vpō thee to muche No quoth Bradforde I tooke nothinge vppon me vndesired and that of master Bourn himselfe as if he were here presēt I dare saye he woulde affirme it for hee desired me bothe to helpe him to pacifie the people and not to leaue him till he was in safety And as for my behauioure in the Towre and talk before your hohours if I did or saide any thing that did not beseme me if wherin your lordships woulde tell me I should and would shortely make you aunswer Wel quoth my lord Chancelor to leaue this matter how saist thou now wilt thou returne again and doe as we haue done and thou shalte receiue the Queenes mercy and pardon M● lorde quoth Bradforde I desire mercy with gods mercy but mercy with Gods wrathe god keepe me from althoughe I thanke God therefore my conscience doeth not accuse me that I did or spake any thīg wherfore I should nede to receiue mercye or pardon For all that euer I did or spake was agreinge to Goddes lawes and the lawes of the realm at that presēt and did make much quietnes Well quoth my lord Chancelor if thou make this bablīg rolling in thy eloquent tonge beyng altogether ignoraunt and vayne glorious and will not receyue mercy offered to thee knowe for trueth that the Quene is mynded to make a purgacion of all suche as thou arte The Lorde quoth Bradforde to fore whom I stand as well as before you knoweth what vain glory I haue sought and seke in this behalf His mercy I desire also would bee glad of the Queenes fauor to lyue as a subiecte without clogge of conscience but otherwise the lordes mercye is to me better then lyfe And I knowe quoth he to whom I haue committed my life euē to his handes which will kepe it so that no man maye take it awaye before it be his pleasure There ar 1● houres in the daie and as long as they last so long shall no man haue power theron Therfore his good will be done life in his dyspleasure is worse then death and death in his true fauour is trewe lyfe I knowe wel ynough quoth my Lorde Chauncellor that wee shoulde haue glorious talke ynough of thee be sure therefore y t as thou hast deceyued the people with false and deuilishe doctrine so shalte thou receiue I haue not deceiued quod Bradforde the people nor taught any other doctrine then by Gods grace I am and hope shall be ready to confirme with my lyfe And as for deuilishnesse and falsenesse in the doctrine I woulde bee sorye you could so proue it Why quoth the Bishop of Duresme tell me what you say by the ministracion of the communion as you now know it is My lorde saithe Bradforde here must I desire of your Lordeship and of all youre honours a question tofore I doe make aunswere to any intergatorie or question wherewith you now begin I haue bene .vi. tymes sworne y t I should in no case consent to the practysing of any iurisdiccion or any authoritie on the Bishop of Romes behalf within this realm of Englande Nowe therfore before God I humbly pray your honours to tel me whether you ask me this question by his aucthoritie or not If you dooe I dare not nor maye not aunswere you anye thyng in his aucthorite you shall demaunde of me excepte I would be forsworne whiche God forbid Hast thou bene sworne .vi. tymes quoth maister Secretarye Burne what offices haste thou borne Here is an other lie quoth my Lorde Chauncelor Forsooth quoth Bradfoode I was thryse sworn in Cambridge whē I was admitted maister of Arte when I was admitted felowe in Pēbrock Hall and when I was there the Visiters came thether and sware the Vniuersitye Agayne I was sworne when I entered into the mynisterye when I hadde a prebende geuen me and when I was sworne to serue the Kynge a litle before his death Tushe quoth my lorde Chauncelor Herodes othes a man should make no consciēce at But quoth Bradford mi lord these othes wer no Herodes othes nor no vnlawfull othes but othes according to gods woorde as you youre selfe haue well affirmed in youre boke de Vera obediētia My lords quoth an other of the counsel y t stode by the table M. Rochester I wene I neuer knewe wherfore this mā was in prison before nowe but I see wel that it had not bene good that this man had beene abrode What so euer was the cause he was laide in prison I know not but I now see well y t not without cause he was and is to be kept in prisone Yea quoth Secretarye Bourn it was reported this parliament tyme by the Erle of Derby that he hath doone more hurte by letters and exhortinge these y t haue come to him in religion thē euer he did when he was abrode by preachinge In his letters he curseth al that teacheth false doctrine for so he calleth that whiche is not accordīg to that he taught and moste earnestly exhorteth thē to whome he writeth to continue still in that they haue receiued by him and such lyke as he is All which woordes diuers others of of the counsel affirmed wherunto the saide maister Bourn added saying howe saye you serra speaking to Bradforde haue you not thus sediciouslye written and exhorted the people I haue quoth Bradford written nor spoken any thing sediciouslye and I thanke god therefore I haue not admytted any sedicious cogitacion nor I trust neuer shall dooe yea but thou haste wrytten letters quoth maister Secretary Bourne why speakest thou not quoth my lord Chauncelour hast thou not written as he saith That quoth Bradforde I haue wrytten I haue written Lorde God quoth M. Southwell what an arrogant stubburne boye is this that thus stoutlye and dallyengly behaue hymself before the Queenes coūsell whereat one looked vpon an other with disdaynefull countenaunce My lordes and masters quoth Bradforde the Lorde God whiche is and wyll iudge vs all knoweth that as I am certayne I stande nowe before his maiestye so wyth reuerence in hys syghte I stande beefore you vnto youre and accordyngly in woordes and gesture I desyre to behaue my selfe yf you otherwyse take it I doubte not but God in hys tyme wyll reuele it In the meane season I shall suffer with all due obedyence your sayinges and deedes too I hope These bee gay glorious wordes quoth my Lorde Chauncelour of reuerēce reuerence but as in al other thynges so hrrein thou doest nothyng but lye Well quoth Bradforde I would God the authour of trueth and abhorrer of lyes woulde pul my tounge out of my head before you all and shewe a terrible iudgemente on me here presentlye yf I haue purposed or dooe purpose to lye beefore you whatsoeuer you shall aske me Why then quoth my lord
Bradford did stubbernly behaue himself the last time he was before them and therfore not for any other thynge now I demaund thee of ꝙ he but of for thy doctrine religiō Mi lord ꝙ Bradforde where you accuse me of hipocrisy vain glory I must wil leaue it to the lordes declaraciō which one daie wil open yours my trueth heartye dealinges In the meane season I wil contēt my self w t the testimony of mine own conscience Which if it yelded to hipocrisy could not but haue god my foe also and so both god and man were agaynst me As for my facte at Poules crosse and behauior before you at the Towre I doubt not but god wyll reuele it to my comfort For if euer I dydde any thynge which god vsed to publyke benefite I think that y t my dede was one and yet for it I haue beene am kept of lōg time in prisō And as for letters religion I answer ꝙ Bradforde as I did the laste tyme I was beefore you There diddeste thou saye ꝙ my Lorde Chauncellour that thou wouldst stubbernli manly maintein therronious doctrine in kīg Edwardz daies My lorde ꝙ Bradforde I said the last time I was before you y t I had .6 times taken an othe y t I should neuer cōsent to the practising of any Iurisdiccion on the bishop of Rome his behalfe and therefore durste not aunswere to any thynge shoulde be demaunded so least I should be forsworn whiche God forbid Howe bee it sauyng myne othe I said that I was more confirmed in the doctrine set forth publike in kīg Edwardes daies then euer I was before I was put in prisone and so I thought I should be think yet styll I shall bee founde more ready to geue my lyfe as god wil for the confirmacion of thesame I remember wel ꝙ my lord Chācelour that thou madest muche a doe about a nedeles matter as though the othe against the B. of Rome wer so great a matter So others haue done before thee but yet not in suche sorte as thou hast done For thou pretendist a cōscience in it whiche is nothinge els but mere hipocrisie My consciēce ꝙ Bradforde is knowen to the Lorde and whether I deale here in hipocritally or no he knoweth As I saide therfore then my lord ꝙ he so saye I againe nowe that for feare lest I should be periured I dare not make answere to any thyng you shal demaunde of me yf my aunsweryng should cōsent to the practysing of any iurisdiccion for the B. of Rome here in England Why ꝙ my lord Chancelour diddest thou not begin to tel that we ar Dii and sit in gods place and nowe wilte thou not make vs aunswere My lorde ꝙ Bradforde I sayde you woulde haue your place takē of vs now as goddes place and therefore I brought foorth that pece of scrypture y t ye mighte be the more admonished to folowe God and his wayes at this presente who seeth vs all and well perceyueth whether of conscience I pretende thys matter of the othe or no. No ꝙ my my lord Chancelor al men may se thi hipocrisy for if for thine othes sake thou doest not aunswere thē wouldest thou not haue spokē as thou didst haue aunswered me at the first But now mē may wel perceiue y t this is but a startynge hole to hide thy selfe in because thou darest not aunswere and so wouldest escape blīdyng the simple peoples eies as though of cōscience you did all you doe That whiche I spake at the firste ꝙ Bradforde was not a replicacyon or an aunswere to y t you spake to me therfore I nede not to lay for me myne othe for I thought perchance you would haue more weyed what I did speak thē you did But whē I perceued you did not considre it but came to aske matter whereto by answerynge I shoulde cōsēt to the practisinge of iurisdicciō on the B. of Rome hys behalf here in Englande so bee forsworne thē of cōscience simplicitie I spake as I do yet again speak y t I dare not for conscience sake answere you and therfore I seke no startinge holes nor goe about to blind the people as God knoweth For if you of youre honor shal tel me y t you doe not aske me any thyng wherby my answering should consent to the practising to y e B. of Romes iurisdicciō aske me wherin you wil and you shal here y t I will aunswere you as flatly as euer anye did y t came before you I am not afrayde of death I thanke god for I loke haue loked for nothīg els at your hands of long time But I am afraid whē death cōmeth I should haue mater to trouble my cōsciēce by the giltines of periury therefore doe aunswer as I do These be but gaye glorious woordes ꝙ my lorde Chauncelour ful of hypocrisie and vaine glory And yet doest not thou knowe ꝙ he speaking to Bradforde y t I sit here as B. of Winchester in mine own dioces and therefore maye doe this whiche I doe and more too My lord ꝙ Bradforde geue me leaue to aske you this question that my conscience maie bee out of doubte in this matter Tel me here coram deo before god all this audyence beyng witnes that you demaund me nothing wherby my aunswering should consent to confirme the practise of iurisdiccion for the B. of Rome here in Englād and your honour shall heare me geue you as flat and as plain answers briefly to whatsoeuer you shal demaund me as euer any dyd Here the lorde Chauncellor was wonderfully offēded and spake much howe that the B. of Romes aucthoritie nede no confirmacion of Bradfordes aunsweringe nor no suche as he was And turned hys talke to the people howe y t Bradforde followed craftye couetous marchauntes which because thei woulde lende no money to theyr neighbors whē thei wer in nede would say that they had sworne ofte they would neuer lende anye more money because their credytours had so ofte deceiued thē Euē so thou ꝙ he to Bradford dost at this present to caste a mist in y e peoples eyes to bleare them with an heresie which is greatter and more hurtful to the cōmon welth pretende thine othe whereby the people mighte make a conscience where as they shoulde not Why speakest thou not quoth he My lord ꝙ Bradford as I said I say agayne I dare not answere you for feare of periury from whiche God defende me Or els I could tell you y t there is a difference betwene othes Some be according to faith and charitie as y e othe against the B. of Rome Some be agaīst faith and charitie as this to denye my help to my brother in his nede Here again y e lord Chācellor was much offēded stil saying that Bradford durst not answere and further made muche a do to proue that y e othe to y e B. of Rome was against charitie But
cānot tel how you wil stretche this woorde maintenāce I will repete again y t which I spake I said I was more confirmed in the religion set foorth in king Edwardes dayes then euer I was if god so would I trust I should declare it by geuing my life for the confirmacion and testificacion therof So I saide then so I say again now ꝙ Bradford As for otherwise to mainteine it then pertayneth to a priuate person by cōfessiō I thought not nor thinke Well ꝙ the lord Chancelor yesterday thou diddest mayntain false heresy cōcernyng y e blessed sacramēt therfore we gaue y e respite til this day to deliberate My lord ꝙ Bradford as I sayde at y e first I spake nothinge of the Sacramēt but y t which you allowed therfore reꝓued it not nor gaue me no time to deliberate Why ꝙ he diddest thou not denye Christs presence in the sacramēt No ꝙ Bradford I neuer denyed nor taught but that to the fayth whole Christs body bloud was as presente as breade wyne to the dewe receyuer yea but doest thou not beleue that Christes bodye naturallye and reallye is vnder the forme of bread and wyne My Lord ꝙ Bradforde I beleue Christ is presēt there to faith of y e dewe receyuer as for transubstanciacion I plainely and flatlye tell you I beleue it not Here was Bradford called a deuil or sclanderer for we axe no questiō ꝙ y e lord Chancelor of transubstanciacion but of Christs bodily presēce Why quoth Bradford I denye not hys presēce to the faith of the receuer but denye that he is included in y e bred or that the bred is transubstanciated If he be not īcluded ꝙ the B. of Worcester how is he then presēt Forsothe quoth Bradford my faith knoweth howe though my tōg cannot expresse it nor you otherwise thē by faith heare it or vnderstand it Heare was much a doe now one Docter starting vp speking this another that the lord Chancelor talking muche of Luther zwīglius Oecolāpadiꝰ But stil Bradford kept thē at this point that Christ is presēt to faith and y t there is no transubstanciacion nor including of Christ in the bread but al this would not serue thē Therfore an other bishop asked this questiō whether y e wycked man receiued Christes verye bodie or no Bradford answered plainly no. Where the lord Chancelor made a long oracion howe y t it could not be y t Christe was present excepte that the euill man receiue hī But Bradford put his oracion away in few woordes that grace was at y e present offred vnto his lordship although he receiued it not So y t ꝙ he y t receyuing maketh not the presens as youre lordship would affirme but gods grace trueth power is y e cause of the presence the which the wicked y t lacketh faith cannot receue And here Bradforde prayed hym not to deuorce that whiche God hathe coupled together he hathe coupled al this together take eate this is my bodye he saieth not see pepe this is my bodye but take eate Here the lorde Chancelour the reste of the Bishoppes made a great a do that Bradforde hadde founde out a toy that no man els euer did of the condicions the lord Chancelor made many words to the people here aboute But Bradford said this My lord ꝙ he are not these woordes take eate a cōmaundement and are not these woordes this is my bodye a promyse If you wil challenge the ꝓmise do not y e cōmandemēt may you not deceue your self Here the lord Chancelor denied Christe to haue cōmāded any thīg in y e sacramēt or y e vse of it Why ꝙ Bradford my lord I pray you tel the people what mode accipite manducate is it is plain to childrē that Christ in so saying cōmandeth At these wordes the lorde Chauncellor made a great toying trifling at the imperatiue mode fel to proposing or examining as though he shuld teach a child so cōcluded that it was no cōmandement but such a phrase as this I praye you geue me drink which is no commandemēt I trow But Bradford prayd him to leaue toying trifling and said thus my lord ꝙ he if it be not a commandemēt of Christ to take to eate the sacramēt why do any take vpō thē to cōmaund make of necessity that which god leueth free as you do in making it a necessary commandemēt that once a yere for al that be of lawful discrecion to receiue the sacramēt Here the lord Chancelour calleth him againe Diabolus or slaunderer so began out of these woordes let a man proue himself so eate of the bread the bred ꝙ Bradford and drink of the cup that was no cōmandemēt for then ꝙ he if it wer a cōmandemēt it should bynde al men in al places at al tymes O my lord quoth Bradford discerne betwene cōmandementes some be generall that thei binde alwaies in all places and all persones some be not so generall as this is of the supper The sacramente of Baptism of the appearing before the lord at Ierusalē Abrahās offring Isaac Here the lord Chancelor said what say you that Baptisme is cōmanded thē quoth he we shal haue .xi. cōmandementes In dede quoth Bradford I think you thinke as you speake for els you would not take the cup from the people seyng y t Christe sayeth drink of it al. But howe saye you my lord quoth Bradford Christe sayth to you bishops specially ite predicate euangelium goe preache the gospel fede Christes flocke is this a cōmandement or not Here was the lord Chancelor in a great chafe said as pleased him Another I wene the B. of Durham asked him when Christ began to bee present in the sacrament whether before the receyuer receiued it or no Bradforde answered that the questiō was curious not necessary further said as the said cup was the new testamēt so the bred was Christs body to him that receiueth it duely But yet so y e bred is bred for in al y e scripture ye shal not find this proposiciō non est panis ther is no bred so he brought forth s Chrisostō Si in corpore essemus Summa much a do was here about thei calling Bradford heretike he desired them to procede a gods name he loked for y t whiche god appointed thē to do Loe ꝙ the lord Chancelor this felowe is now in a nother heresy of fatal desteny as though all thynges wer so tyed together y t of mere necessitie al thinges must come to passe But Bradford praide him to take things as they were spoken not wreste them into a contrary sence your lordshippe quoth hee doth discerne betwixt god and manne things are not by fortune to god at any time thoughe to man they seme so some times I ꝙ Bradforde spake but as the Apostles spake lord ꝙ he see howe Herode
And therfore he would make sute on my behalfe to y e Queenes gighnes Wherfore quoth my keꝑ you must tel me what you wold haue him to do y t to morow I may brīg hym worde as he hath required me Marie ꝙ I M. Clayden I hope I shal nead litle to make many wordes in telling you my sute as I hartely thāke his lordship of his good wil and zeale y t he beareth vnto me so you know I can not desire any to make sut for me If of his own will he do sue for ꝑdon banishmē ꝑpetual prison or what his pleasure shalbe for me I were to blame if y t I would take it vnthankefullye Albeit I knowe deathe and spedie dispache were moste well come vnto me Well quoth he I will tell hym to morowe y e thoughe you can not nor wil not make sute to any to sue for you yet you wil be content If he on his lordshipes good will will labour on your behalfe yea quod I and to tell you truth where I perceaue that others doo sue for me meaninge Perciual Cressuel and maister Harpsfeld I had rather my Lord of Darbye shoulde doo it for that my frendes the countrye mighte lesse be offended at hym bycause he maste haue the burning of me After this talke with my keper maister Clayden there cōmeth one of the Queenes seruauntes and officers whose name I will not reherse whiche after a litle talke fel down on his knees and with teares besought me for the passion of Christe that I would a litle loke to my self to make some sute c. For quoth he swearing an othe it will not be longe vnto before thou shalte be able to doo more good then euer thou dideste But I shewing my selfe not vnthankefull for his good will departed from hym as one litle lusting to heare suche counsell Of him I lerned twesdaye followinge was the vttermost daye I shoulde tarrye here Within an houre after this mānes departure frō me the keper maister Clayden called me sayinge that he perceaued howe that my frend Perciual had told him that maister Harpsfeld had written to maister doctor Martin to be a meanes to the Counsell for lōger tyme for me Where vpon quoth he I thincke it were beste to send my Lord of Darbie worde of this to might lest he be preuēted And I aunswered thus That as he thought good so he mighte doo But quoth I beware I hertelye praye that you doo not tell my lord any thing that I desire this For if you do it will in y e ende be more againste you then with you And he promised the same and so departed oute of hande to the Court. Vpon the .17 day whiche was sondaye in the after nowne Perciual Cresse wel sent me word by him that came firste with him that if I woulde make anye sute my selfe or wil any to doo for me I might spead but els quoth he nothing wil be done as he p̄sently hath receiued answere of my lord Chauncelor wel quoth I I am at a pointe and so toke my leaue lokinge still when the Sheriffes woulde come for me For I had heard ouer might that one of the Garde whiche was appointed to cōueye me down into Lākishiere had told one that they hade warning against to morowe for me Vppon the .18 daye whiche was twesdaye I hearde that the write for my execuciō was called in again and the Sheriffe of Lākaishiere discharged of me for y e presente And in the after nowne one of my Lorde of Darbis men brought me worde howe that my lord had taken greate paines for me and had kneled before the Queene and many more wordes desiring me som thing to se to my selfe now But quoth he what how muche is done for you I can not tell but this muche I thincke saith he you shal haue your boks and time ynough to peruse them Well quoth I I praye you hartelye thancke my Lorde for hys good wil towardes me I shal as I haue done pray y t God woulde giue vnto hym as to my selfe the which is all I can do For doinge for my selfe as I woulde be sorye that my lord or you shuld thincke any waueringe in me for my doctrine so I would be lothe but to doo all for my selfe that I can do with a good cōscience And as for tyme quoth I bokes although I see it is but a lingering of the tyme yet I am glad of it in this respecte y t my lord others may know I hold no opinion but such as I dare sifte and abide the reasoning for with any man I trust you and many others shal se that oure doctrine is true therefore dare and desire to abide the light and all mens lokynge on where perchaunce it is bruted abrode that we are altogether obstinate and cannot defend it by lernynge after this talke there was a priest called maister Couppage which began to exhorte me to take the iniuries done vnto me pacienlye For quoth he I doubte not but if you wil come vnto vs you shuld be more able to helpe manye and your frendes also then euer you were bothe spirituallye and corporallye If quoth I you kepe your maister Christe I wil come vnto you but other wise I knowe you not This and such like talke we had for that presente the Erle of Darbye his man appointynge maister Clayden my keper in the mornyng to come to my Lord. Vpon the .19 day whiche was wednesdaye Maister Clayden came from my lord and in his name asked me whether I would be contente to spake with the kinges confessor and Alphonsus a frier to send him worde Sir quoth I you knowe that as I desire cōferēce with no man so I thancke God I am not afraied to speake with anye man where vppon he sent my Lord worde as he saide And so I herd nothing til the day followinge howe that my Lorde of Darbye had sent backe again two of his mē which came to me sayinge that they were sent to solicite my cause but howe or what waye I could not lerne Vpon the .21 daye whiche was friday the Archebishope of yorke and the Byshoppe of Chichester came to the Counter to speake with me When I was come before them they both speciallye my Lord of yorke vsed me verye gentlie they would haue had me sit downe and bycause I woulde not they also woulde not sitt so we all stode whether I woulde or no they would neades I should put on not onely my night cappe but my vpper cappe also sayinge vnto me that obediēce was better then sacrifice Now thus stāding togither my Lord of yorke begā to tel me howe that they were not sente to me but of loue and charitie we come to you And I quoth he of olde acquaintaunce whiche I haue had woith you more then my Lord of Chichester hath had And so cōmended me of a godlye life c cōcluding with a question
a presence I semeth quoth my Lorde of Chichester that you haue not red Chrysostome for he poīteth it Of truth my lord quoth I hitherto I haue ben kepte well ynough withoute bokes howbeit this I remember of Chrisostome that he lyeth vppon the altar as the Seraphins do touch our lips with y e coules of the altar in heauen whiche is an Hiperbolicall locucion as you knowe Chrisostome floweth with them It is to euident quoth my lord of yorke that you are gon to farre but let vs come againe to y e churche out of the whiche you are excommunicated I am not quoth I my lord Although they whiche seme to be in the churche and of the churche haue excommuninicate me as the pore blind man was Ihon .9 I hope Christ receueth me you deceaue your selfe ꝙ he and here muche was spoken of excommunicacion At the laste I said my Lorde I pray you beare with me that whiche I shall simplye speake before you Assuredly quoth I as I thinck you did well to departe from the Romishe churche so I thincke you haue done wickedly to couple vs to it againe for you can neuer proue it which you make the mother Churche to be christes churche Oh maister Bradford quoth my lorde of Chichester you were but a childe when this matter began I was a yonge man then cōming from the vniuersitie went with the woorlde but I tell you it was alwaies agaīst my stomack ▪ I was but a child then quoth I ▪ how be it as I told you I thincke you haue done euill for nowe we are come to the wicked mā which sitteth in the Temple of god ▪ that is in the churche for it cannot be vnderstād of the Mahumet or any out of the churche but of suche as beare rule in the church ▪ See quoth my lord of yorke howe you builde your faith vpō such places of scripture as are moste obscure to deceaue your selfe as thoughe you were in the church where you are not Well my lorde quoth I thoughe I might by your frutes iudge of you and others yet will not I vtterly condempne you for euer oute of the churche for perchaunce you sinne of ignoraunce ▪ if I were in your case I thincke not quoth I that I should not cōdēpne him vtterly y t is of my faith in the Sacrament knowinge as you know that at y e least .viii. C. yeres after Christs as my lord of Durisme writteth It was free to beleue or not to beleue transubstātiatiō This is a toye quoth he that you haue found out of your owne brayne as thoughe a man not beleuing as the churche doth That is transubstantiacion were of the Churche he is an hereticke and so none of the churche quoth my lord of Chichester that dothe hold any doctrine againste the definition of the Churche as nowe you do hold against transubstan●●atiō And he brought furth Ciprian whiche was no Hereticke thoughe he beleued rebaptizinge of them whiche were baptized of heretickes bicause he held it before the churche had defined it where as if he had holden it after then had he ben an hereticke Oh my lord quod I wil you condempne to the deuil any man that beleueth truely the .12 article of y e faith wherein I take the vnitie of Christes churche to consiste al thoughe in some pointes he beleue not the definitions of that whiche you cal the churche If I shall speake to you franckelye I doubte not but he y t holdeth syncerlye the articles of oure belefe thought in other thinges he dissent from your definitions yet he shalbe saued yea quod they both this is your doctrine No quoth I it is Paule whiche saith that if they hold the foundacion Christe thoughe they build vppon hym Hey strawe and stouble yet they shalbe saued Lord god quoth my lord of yorke howe you delite to leyne to so hard and darke places of scripture yea quoth my Lord of Chichester I will shewe you howe that Luther doth excommunicate zwinglius for this matter so red a place of Luther making for his purpose My lord quoth I what Luther writteth as you muche passe not of so do I in this case my faith is not build of Luther zwinglius or Ecolampadius in this point And in dede to tel you truelye I neuer red anye of their woorkes in this matter As for their persons what so euer theire sayinges were yet doo I thincke assuredly that they were and are gods children and sainctes with him Wel quoth my lord of yorke you are out of the cōmunion of y e church I am not quoth I. For it cōsisteth is in faith Loo quoth he howe you make your churche inuisible that would haue the comunion of it to consiste in faithe yea and like your grace quoth I for to haue cōmuniō with y e churche neadeth not visiblenesse of it cōmunion consisteth as I said in faith and not in exforior ceremonies as appeareth both by Paule whiche woulde haue Vnam fidem by Ireneus to Victor for y e obseruaciō of Ester saing that Dissonantiam ieiunii should not Rumpere consonantiam fide That same place quoth my lord of chichester hath often euen wounded my cōscience because we disceuered our selfes frō the Sea of Rome Wel quoth I God forgeue you for I thincke you haue done euyll to bringe England thyther againe your honors know I am plain therfore I beseche you beare with me Here my Lord of yorke toke a boke of paper of common places out of his bosome and red a peice of Saint Augustine Contra Epistolam fundamenti howe that there were many thinges that did hold saint Augustine in the bosome of the church consent of people and natiōs aucthoritie cōfirmed with miracles nourished with hope increased wyth charitie established with ātiquitie Besides this there holdethe me in the churche saith saint Augustine stil the successions of priestes from Peters seate vntil this present Bishoppe Last of all the verye name of Catholicke doctrine dothe holde me Loo quoth he howe saye you to this of Saint Augustine point● me oute your churche thus My Lord quoth I this of saint Augustine maketh as muche for me as for you althoughe I might aunswere that al these if they had ben alledged to bee so firme as you make them they might haue ben alledged againste Christ and his Apostles for ther was the lawe and ceremonies consented in by the people confirmed with miracles antiquitie and continual succession of byshoppes frō Aarons tyme vntil that present In good faith quod my lord of Chichester maister Bradford you marke to muche the state of the churche before Christs comming Sir quod I therein I do but as Peter teacheth .2 Pet. 2. and Paule verye oftē you would gladly haue your church heare verye glorious and as a most pleasante Ladie but as a moste pleasante ladye but as Christes saith Beatus est quicunque non fuerit offensus per me so maye his churche saye blessed
are they that are not offended at me yea quoth I my lord you thinck none is of the church but such as suffer persecutiō what I thincke quod I god knoweth I pray your grace iudge me by anye wordes and speaking and marke what Paule saythe Omnes qui volunt all that wil liue godly in christ Iesu must suffer persecutions Sometime Christ church hath reste here but commonlye quoth I it is not so And specially towardes the end her forme wil be more vnsemlye But what saye you to sainct Augustin quoth he where is youre Churche that hath the consent of people nations Mary quod I al people natiōs y t be gods people haue cōsented with me I w t them in the doctrine of faith Loo quoth he howe you goo about to shifte of all thinges No my lord quoth I I meane simplye and so speake god knoweth S. Augustī quoth he dooth here talke of successiō euen frō Peters sea yea like your grace ꝙ I that sea thē was nothīg so much corrupt as it is now Wel quod he you alwaies iudge y e church No my lord quod I. As christs shep discerne christs voice but they iudged not it so they discerne the churche but not iudge her yes that you do sath he● No like your grace quoth I ful wel may a mā doubte of y e Romish church for she obaeth not Christs voice as christs true church doth wherin quod he ī latē seruis ꝙ I robbeth the Laytye of Christes cuppe in the Sacramentes Why quoth my lord of Chichester Latten seruice was in England when the Pope was gon True quoth I tyme was when the Pope was awaye but not all Poperie as in Kyng Henrys dayes Latten seruice quoth my lord of yorke was appointed to be songe had in y e Queare where only were Clerici that is such as vnderstād laten y e people sitting in y e bodie of y e churche prayinge their owne priuat prayers and this quoth he maye well be yet sene by making of the Chaunsell and Quere so as the people could not come in or heare them yea qut my lorde quoth I both in Chrisostomes tyme and also in the laten churche in sainct Ieromes tyme as he writteth in the preface I trowe to the Galathians al the church saith Amen Aunswering againe mightely Amen whereby we maye see that y e prayers were made that both the people herd them and vnderstod them you are to blame quoth my Lorde of Chichester to saye that the churche robbeth the people of the Cup. Well my lord quod I turne it as please you all men knowe that the Laitye hath none of it In dede ꝙ I I would wishe the churche would defyne againe that they might haue it for my ꝑt if god make free quoth I who cā define to make bound generallie Well quoth my lord of yorke maister Bradford we lese but labour for you seke to put awaye al thīgs y t be told you to your good your churche no man can knowe yes that you maye well quoth I. I pray you whereby said he forsoth Chrisostome shoeth it Tantummodo per scripturas onely by the scriptures and thus speaketh he verye often times togyther as you well knowe quod I ▪ In ded quod he that is of Chrisostome In opere imperfecto whiche maye be doubted of the thinge whereby the church may be knowen beste is successiō of Byshoppes No my lord quod I Lyra ful well writteth vppon Matthew that Ecclesia non consistit in hominibus ratione Potestatis secularis aut ecclesiastice Sedin hominibus in quibus est noti●ia Vera et confessio Fidei et veritatis And in Hilarius time you know he writteth to Auxcentius that the Churche dyd rather Delitescere in cauernis them Eminere in primariis sedibus Here commeth one of their seruauntes and tolde them that my lorde of Durisme taried for them at Maister yorkes house for inded it was paste .12 of the clocke vppon a .4 howres they taryed with me And after that there mā was come they put vp there written bokes of common places and saide they lamented my case and so wishing me to red ouer a boke whiche dyd doctor Crome good as my Lorde of Chichester sayde and wyshyng me good in words they wente there wayes and I to my prison Vppon mondaye whiche was the .22 of Februarie about .8 of y e clock in y e morning which was an howre soner then was appointed There came to the Coūter where I was in prison to Spannishe friers Alphonsus and the kings Confeffor as they said and with them twoo priestes whiche were Englishe men as I wene when the howse was voyded of other companye I was called donne beinge come before them a stoole was pouled out and I bidden sit doune whiche thinge I did after a signe of ciuilitie geuen to them Nowe thus sitting beginneth the Confessor to speake in latten and aske me in latten for al our talke was in latten whether I had not sene nor herd of one Alphonsus y t had writen against heresies And I aunswered that I did not know him well quoth he this man pointing to Alphonsꝰ is he Verye good quoth I. After this he beginneth to tell me howe that of loue and charitie by the meanes of the Erle of Darbye they come to me bycause I desired to conferre with them And I answered that I neuer desired there cōming nor to conferre with them or any other but quoth I seing you are come of charitie as you saye I cannot but thanckfully acknowledge it and as for conference though I desire it not yet quoth I I wyl not refuse to talke with you if you will Than began Alphonsus to tel me that it were requisite I did pray vnto god that I mighte followe the direction of gods spirite and as he should enspire me not being addicte to min owne selfe will and with where vpō I made a prayer besaught god to directe al our wille words and workes as the willes words and workes of his children for euer yea quoth Alphonsus you muste praye with your herte For if you speake but with tong onely God will not giue you his grace Sir quoth I. doo not iudge leste you be iudged you haue hearde my wordes now charitie would haue you to leaue the iudgement of the hart to god you must quoth Alphonsus be as it were a newter not wedded to your sentence But as one standinge in doubte praye and beleue be redye to receaue what god shall inspire for quoth he in vaine laboureth our tong to speake els Sir quoth I my sentence if you meane it for Religion must not be in a doubting or vncertein as I thācke god it is not euen for that where in I am condēpned I haue no cause to doubt but rather to be most certein of it therfor I pray god to confirme me more in it for it is his truthe And therfore
bycause it may abid y e light I dare be bolde to haue it loke on cōferre it with you or any man in respecte wherof I am glad of your cōming thācke you for your cōming althoughe as I said I desired not your cōminge nwas willing of your cōming or cold be cōtēt of it otherwise Why quod he what is y ● matter wherefore you were condempned for we know not sir quod I ī prisō haue I ben all most two yeres I neuer trāsgressed any of y e lawes wherfore I might iustlye be punished But because I frāckly confessed whereof I repēt not my faith concerninge the sacrament being demaūded in these two points One that there is no trāsubstantiaciō the other that the wicked doo not receaue Christes bodie ▪ Lett vs quoth he loke a litle on the firste do you not beleue christs presence raallye and corporallye in the forme of bread No quoth I. I doo beleue that there Christ is present to the faith of the worthye receauer as there is present bread and wyne to the sences and outwarde man as for any suche presence of including and placing Christe I beleue not nor dare not do Why quoth he I am sure you beleue Christes natural body is circumscriptible And here he made muche a do of two natures of Christ howe that the one is euery where the other is in his proper place demaunding questiōs here about whiche I aunswered with etiam that is affirmatiuelye bycause they were suche as no wise man would haue spente any such tyme about as he did for I neuer herd of any that woulde haue denyed them Nowe then commeth he to this conclusion whiche I prayed hym he woulde make for els he had forgotten howe that because christes body was circumscriptible concerninge the humanitye in in heauen therfore it was so in the bread This hanges not togither quod I because you are here Ergo you are at Romme it is out of Fraunce bycause christes body is in heauen Io. it is in the Sacramēt vnder the forme of bread No wise man wil graunt it quoth I. why quoth he you wil beleue nothing but that which is expresely spoke in the scriptures yes syr quoth I I will beleue what so euer you shall by demonstracions out of the scriptures declare vnto me he is obstinate saieth he to his fellow But quoth he to me is not god able to do it yes syr quoth I But heare the questiō is of gods will and not of his powre Why quoth he Doth he not say plainlye this is my bodye yes quod I and I denye it not but that it is to the faith of the worthie receuer To faith quoth he howe is that Forsothe syr quoth I as I haue no tong to expresse it so I know you haue no eares to heare and vnderstād it for faith seyth more then man can vtter yea but quod he I can tel all that I beleue you beleue not muche then quoth I. For if you beleue the ioies of heauen if you beleue no more then you can tell you wyll not muche desire to come thyther for as the mynde is more capable and receauable then the mouth so it conceaueth more then the tonge can expresse Christe sayth it is hys bodie quoth he And so saye I after a certein maner quoth I After a certein maner quoth hee that is after another maner then it is in heauen saint Augustin quoth I telleth it more plainlye that it is Christes bodye after the same maner circuncysion was the Couenaunte of God and the sacrament of faith is faith or to make it more plaine as Baptisme and the water of baptisme is regeneration Verye wel said quoth he Baptisme and the water therof is a sacrament of gods grace sprit in the water closing the baptisme No syr quoth I away with your inclosing on the same sorte christs bodye is in the bread on whiche sorte the grace and spirite of God is in the water In y e water quod he is gods grace by significacion so is the bodye in the breade quoth I in the Sacrament you are muche deceaued quoth he y t make no difference beetwene the sacramētes that be stāderes and the Sacramētes that are traunseuntes and passers by As for example the sacramente of Order whiche you denye thoughe saint Augustine affirme it is standerd although the ceremonie be paste But in baptisme so sone as the bodie is washen the water cesseth to be a sacrament True good syr quoth I. And so it is in the lordes supper no longer then it is in vse is Christes sacrament Here was maister Alphonsus wounderfullye chafed and speake as often he had done before so that y e hole house dyd ringe againe with an Echo He hath a great name of lerning But surely he hath litle pacience If I had ben any thynge whete one house could not haue kepte vs bothe At the lenght he cometh to that point that I could not find in y e scripture baptisme and the Lords supper to haue any like similitude togither And here lord god what aray he mad how that we would receaue nothinge but scripture yet we are able to proue nothing by the scripture Father ꝙ I for so I called him God forgiue me if I dyd amysse be paciente and you shall see y t by the scripture I will finde baptisme and the Lords supper coupled togither No quoth he that canst thou neuer doo let me see one texte of it and a great ado he made At the lenght syr quoth I Paule sayeth that as we are baptized into one bodie so we are Potati in Vno spiritu we haue dronken of one spirite meaninge it of the Cuppe in the Lordes supper Paule hath no such wordes quod he ▪ yes that he hath quoth I. I trowe he hath not quoth the kinges confessor Giue me a Testament quoth I and I wil showe it to you so a priest that sate by thē gaue me his testamente I showed them the plaine texte Here was nowe lokinge one vpon an other finallye this simple shifte was founde that Paule spake not of the sacramēt Wel sir quod quoth I thoughe the texte be plaine yet I wene the fathers do expoūd it so especially except my memorie faile me Chrisostome doth it Here I seing thē blancke I began to tel them howe I had byn handled in prison with oute boke paper pen yucke and howe vniustly I had ben handled and prayed them that as they tolde me their comminge was to do me good so they woulde doo it and not to do me hurte whiche thyng they much marked not because of the foyle they had which I would haue suppressed Alphonsus therfore whiche had the Testamente in his hande and turned ouer leafe by leafe at the lenght he commeth to the .5 to the Corinthiens and there red howe that he was giltye whiche made no difference of the lordes bodie yea syr quoth I but therwith he