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A61556 The grand question, concerning the Bishops right to vote in Parliament in cases capital stated and argued, from the Parliament-rolls, and the history of former times : with an enquiry into their peerage, and the three estates in Parliament. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1680 (1680) Wing S5594; ESTC R19869 81,456 194

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noble_n 77._o ut_fw-la episcopi_fw-la abbates_n comites_fw-la &_o potentiores_fw-la quique_fw-la si_fw-la causam_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la habuerint_fw-la ac_fw-la se_fw-la pacificare_fw-la noluerint_fw-la ad_fw-la nostram_fw-la jubeantur_fw-la venire_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la neque_fw-la illorum_fw-la contentio_fw-la aliubi_fw-la judicetur_fw-la but_o in_o this_o court_n they_o challenge_v that_o as_o their_o privilege_n to_o be_v try_v by_o their_o peer_n who_o be_v call_v pares_fw-la curiae_fw-la 1434._o so_o the_o emperor_n sigismond_n in_o his_o protestation_n before_o the_o state_n of_o the_o empire_n cum_fw-la secundùm_fw-la juris_fw-la communis_fw-la dispositionem_fw-la nec_fw-la non_fw-la usum_fw-la morem_fw-la stylum_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la sacri_fw-la romani_fw-la imperii_fw-la feudalis_fw-la contentio_fw-la per_fw-la dominum_fw-la feudi_fw-la ac_fw-la pares_fw-la curiae_fw-la terminanda_fw-la sit_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o again_o nisi_fw-la parium_n nostrae_fw-la curiae_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la gal●icis_fw-la so_o likewise_o in_o france_n as_o tilius_fw-la say_v haec_fw-la judiciorum_fw-la ratio_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la causis_fw-la feudalibus_fw-la judicent_fw-la feudales_n pares_fw-la 96._o in_o gallia_n est_fw-la perantiqua_fw-la so_o in_o fulbertus_n one_o count_n send_v word_n to_o another_o that_o their_o cause_n shall_v not_o be_v determine_v nisi_fw-la in_o conventu_fw-la parium_n suorum_fw-la and_o many_o other_o example_n may_v be_v produce_v but_o these_o be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v we_o understand_v the_o true_a original_a of_o this_o right_n of_o peerage_n which_o be_v from_o the_o feodal_n law_n and_o all_o those_o who_o hold_v of_o the_o same_o lord_n and_o by_o the_o same_o tenure_n be_v say_v to_o be_v pares_fw-la peer_n and_o therefore_o since_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n be_v baron_n by_o tenure_n ever_o since_o william_n i._o by_o consequence_n they_o be_v peer_n to_o other_o baron_n and_o have_v the_o same_o original_n 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assent_n accord_n priere_n &_o conseal_v des_fw-fr ditz_fw-fr prelatz_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n our_o lord_n the_o king_n in_o full_a parliament_n by_o the_o assent_n accord_n petition_n and_o advice_n of_o the_o say_a prelate_n and_o other_o grantz_n which_o show_v that_o they_o be_v some_o of_o the_o grantz_n of_o parliament_n 5_o ed._n iii_o n._n 3._o touz_v les_fw-fr prelatz_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n n._n 13._o grantz_n in_o general_n be_v use_v in_o the_o debate_n between_o the_o abbot_n of_o crowland_n and_o sir_n thomas_n wake_v and_o n._n 15._o le_fw-fr roi_n &_o as_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n n._n 16._o item_n fu_o accord_n per_fw-la le_fw-fr roi_n &_o touz_v le_fw-fr grantz_n en_fw-fr mesme_fw-fr le_fw-fr parliament_n auxibien_fw-fr per_fw-la prelatz_n come_v per_fw-la autres_fw-fr it_o be_v agree_v by_o the_o king_n and_o the_o great_a man_n of_o the_o parliament_n as_o well_o by_o the_o prelate_n as_o other_o nothing_o can_v be_v plain_a than_o 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concilium_fw-la regni_fw-la but_o only_o show_v that_o their_o consent_n be_v require_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o that_o time_n and_o 23_o ed._n i._o the_o clause_n be_v more_o full_a ad_fw-la tract_n and._n ordinand_n &_o faciend_n the_o like_o 24_o ed._n i._n but_o in_o 27_o ed._n i._o the_o word_n be_v ad_fw-la faciend_n &_o consentiend_n 3._o the_o same_o argument_n will_v exclude_v the_o commons_o from_o any_o voice_n for_o in_o 23_o ed._n i._o the_o writ_n for_o choose_v knight_n and_o burgess_n run_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n ita_fw-la quod_fw-la dicti_fw-la milites_fw-la plenam_fw-la &_o sufficientem_fw-la potestatem_fw-la pro_fw-la se_fw-la &_o commun_n '_o commit_v '_o predict_v '_o &_o dicti_fw-la cives_fw-la &_o burgenses_n pro_fw-la se_fw-la &_o communit_fw-la civet_fw-la '_o &_o burg_n '_o tunc_fw-la ibidem_fw-la habeant_fw-la ad_fw-la faciend_n '_o tunc_fw-la quod_fw-la de_fw-la communi_fw-la consilio_fw-la ordinabitur_fw-la in_o premissis_fw-la will_v any_o man_n be_v so_o unreasonable_a to_o infer_v from_o hence_o that_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o have_v no_o vote_n the_o same_o form_n be_v use_v 26_o ed._n i._o 30_o of_o the_o same_o in_o 5_o ed._n ii_o it_o be_v ad_fw-la consentiendum_fw-la etc._n etc._n 6_o ed._n ii_o it_o be_v ad_fw-la faciend_n quod_fw-la de_fw-la communi_fw-la consilio_fw-la contigerit_fw-la ordinari_fw-la 7_o ed._n ii_o ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiend_n and_o so_o it_o continue_v to_o the_o 26_o ed._n iii_o when_o first_o come_v in_o ad_fw-la tract_n and._n consulend_v faciend_n but_o 44_o ed._n i._o it_o be_v only_o ad_fw-la consulend_v &_o consentiend_n 46_o ed._n iii_o it_o be_v ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la &_o consentiendum_fw-la his_fw-la quae_fw-la tunc_fw-la de_fw-la communi_fw-la concilio_n regni_fw-la contigerit_fw-la ordinari_fw-la so_o 47_o edw._n iii_o which_o have_v be_v the_o general_a form_n ever_o since_o observe_v and_o will_v exclude_v the_o house_n of_o commons_o from_o any_o vote_n in_o parliament_n as_o well_o as_o the_o clergy_n 2._o there_o be_v other_o writ_n of_o summons_n to_o parliament_n wherein_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la be_v leave_v out_o and_o then_o particular_a writ_n be_v send_v to_o such_o dean_n and_o dignify_a clergyman_n as_o the_o king_n think_v fit_a so_o it_o be_v not_o only_o 49_o h._n iii_o but_o there_o be_v two_o summons_n 23_o ed._n i._o and_o in_o one_o of_o they_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la be_v insert_v in_o the_o other_o not_o it_o be_v leave_v out_o 25_o ed._n i._o and_o in_o one_o 27_o ed._n i._o and_o put_v in_o another_o and_o leave_v out_o again_o 28._o and_o 30._o of_o ed._n i._o insert_v 1_o ed._n ii_o in_o one_o writ_n and_o omit_v in_o other_o and_o so_o in_o the_o 3_o follow_a year_n but_o afterward_o general_o insert_v except_o 6_o ed._n ii_o 13._o 16._o 18._o in_o 5_o ed._n iii_o it_o be_v omit_v and_o so_o in_o 6._o and_o some_o few_o year_n afterward_o but_o than_o it_o general_o obtain_v that_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la be_v put_v into_o the_o writ_n of_o the_o bishop_n summons_n to_o the_o parliament_n 3._o there_o be_v writ_n of_o summons_n to_o great_a council_n which_o be_v no_o assembly_n of_o the_o estate_n and_o then_o only_o some_o great_a bishop_n and_o lord_n or_o other_o great_a man_n be_v summon_v without_o any_o writ_n to_o other_o or_o any_o notice_n take_v of_o they_o in_o such_o a_o summons_n 2_o ed._n ii_o only_a 4_o bishop_n be_v name_v 18_o ed._n ii_o only_a 6_o 19_o only_a 5_o 2_o ed._n iii_o only_a 2._o and_o the_o guardian_n of_o the_o spiritualty_n of_o the_o see_v of_o canterbury_n and_o so_o 4_o ed._n iii_o and_o in_o another_o the_o same_o year_n 3_o beside_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n 5_o ed._n iii_o summons_n be_v send_v to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o york_n and_o 19_o bishop_n more_o 11_o ed._n iii_o the_o writ_n be_v direct_v to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o york_n and_o such_o bishop_n earls_z and_o great_a man_n as_o be_v of_o the_o king_n council_n and_o two_o more_o be_v summon_v the_o same_o year_n the_o form_n of_o the_o writ_n differ_v little_a from_o that_o to_o the_o parliament_n only_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la be_v always_o leave_v out_o and_o only_o some_o particular_a bishop_n and_o noble_n be_v call_v and_o no_o writ_n for_o election_n of_o knight_n or_o burgess_n in_o the_o 16_o ed._n iii_o the_o writ_n be_v send_v to_o the_o archbishop_n and_o 7_o bishop_n more_o but_o none_o to_o abbot_n prior_n sheriff_n etc._n etc._n which_o show_v that_o this_o be_v magnum_fw-la concilium_fw-la as_o it_o be_v sometime_o call_v but_o no_o parliament_n 4._o there_o be_v writ_n to_o summon_v a_o convocation_n distinct_a from_o the_o writ_n of_o summons_n to_o the_o parliament_n with_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la this_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o first_o writ_n of_o summons_n to_o a_o convocation_n which_o i_o have_v see_v which_o bear_v date_n at_o lincoln_n 17._o feb._n 9_o ed._n ii_o but_o the_o parliament_n be_v summon_v 16._o of_o october_n before_o to_o meet_v at_o lincoln_n in_o quindenâ_fw-la s._n hilarii_n with_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la in_o the_o writ_n to_o the_o bishop_n in_o which_o summons_n to_o convocation_n it_o be_v express_v that_o those_o bishop_n and_o other_o of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v summon_v to_o parliament_n do_v as_o far_o as_o they_o be_v concern_v unanimous_o yield_v to_o a_o subsidy_n but_o so_o that_o other_o of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v not_o summon_v to_o parliament_n shall_v meet_v in_o convocation_n and_o consent_v thereto_o therefore_o the_o king_n send_v his_o writ_n to_o the_o archbishop_n to_o summon_v all_o the_o prelate_n whether_o religious_a or_o other_o and_o other_o of_o the_o clergy_n of_o his_o province_n to_o meet_v at_o london_n post_v 15._o pasch._n ad_fw-la tractand_v &_o consentiend_n etc._n etc._n here_o we_o have_v the_o plain_a difference_n between_o the_o writ_n to_o parliament_n and_o to_o convocation_n the_o writ_n to_o the_o parliament_n be_v send_v to_o the_o archbishop_n and_o all_o the_o bishop_n with_o the_o clause_n praemunientes_fw-la etc._n etc._n summon_v those_o of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v then_o think_v necessary_a to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n but_o when_o a_o convocation_n be_v call_v than_o the_o writ_n be_v only_o direct_v to_o the_o two_o archbishop_n who_o be_v to_o summon_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o not_o only_o those_o who_o hold_v by_o barony_n but_o other_o of_o the_o dignify_a clergy_n tam_fw-la exemptos_fw-la quam_fw-la non_fw-la exemptos_fw-la with_o the_o proctor_n of_o the_o chapter_n and_o clergy_n of_o the_o diocese_n ad_fw-la tractand_v '_o &_o consulend_v '_o super_fw-la premissis_fw-la una_fw-la vobiscum_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la per_fw-la nos_fw-la tunc_fw-la mittendis_fw-la so_o it_o be_v express_v in_o the_o writ_n for_o convocation_n 11_o ed._n iii_o 29_o ed._n iii_o 31_o ed._n iii_o 7_o r._n ii_o 28_o h._n vi_o 23_o ed._n iu_o only_a these_o two_o last_o have_v this_o difference_n ad_fw-la tractand_v '_o consentiend_n '_o conclude_v '_o super_fw-la premissis_fw-la &_o aliis_fw-la que_fw-la sibi_fw-la clarius_fw-la exponentur_fw-la tunc_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ex_fw-la parte_fw-la nostra_fw-la these_o thing_n i_o have_v lay_v together_o not_o bare_o to_o clear_v this_o intricate_a matter_n as_o it_o have_v be_v make_v of_o the_o interest_n the_o clergy_n then_o have_v in_o parliament_n as_o well_o as_o convocation_n but_o chief_o to_o prove_v from_o hence_o that_o all_o the_o interest_n they_o have_v in_o parliament_n be_v not_o mere_o on_o the_o account_n of_o the_o temporal_a barony_n which_o the_o bishop_n and_o many_o of_o the_o abbot_n than_o have_v which_o be_v the_o great_a but_o common_a mistake_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n 3_o after_o the_o bishopric_n be_v make_v barony_n the_o distinction_n even_o in_o parliament_n be_v keep_v up_o between_o the_o several_a estate_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o laiety_n for_o although_o baronagium_n do_v often_o take_v in_o all_o yet_o sometime_o they_o be_v so_o remarkable_o distinguish_v that_o we_o may_v see_v they_o be_v look_v on_o as_o two_o distinct_a estate_n in_o parliament_n so_o eadmerus_n speak_v of_o what_o pass_v in_o the_o parliament_n 3_o h._n ay_o say_v it_o be_v do_v utriusque_fw-la ordinis_fw-la concordi_fw-la curâ_fw-la &_o solicitudine_fw-la 67._o by_o the_o consent_n of_o both_o estate_n so_o matt._n paris_n speak_v of_o the_o summons_n to_o appear_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o h._n i._n comprehend_v all_o under_o those_o 2_o estate_n 55._o clerus_fw-la angliae_fw-la &_o pop._n universus_fw-la and_o again_o respondente_fw-la clero_fw-la &_o magnatibus_fw-la cunctis_fw-la speak_v of_o a_o parliament_n under_o h._n ii_o he_o say_v 143._o convocato_fw-la clero_fw-la regni_fw-la ac_fw-la populo_fw-la in_o 39_o h._n iii_o describe_v a_o parliament_n he_o call_v those_o assemble_a nobiles_fw-la
angliae_fw-la tam_fw-la viri_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la quam_fw-la seculares_fw-la and_o in_o the_o writ_n of_o summons_n the_o distinction_n have_v be_v always_o preserve_v between_o the_o praelati_fw-la and_o the_o magnate_v for_o in_o those_o to_o the_o bishop_n it_o be_v cum_fw-la caeteris_fw-la praelatis_fw-la magnatibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o those_o to_o the_o temporal_a lord_n cum_fw-la praelatis_fw-la magnatibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n in_o those_o to_o the_o bishop_n they_o be_v command_v in_o fide_fw-la &_o dilectione_n quibus_fw-la nobis_fw-la tenemini_fw-la in_o those_o to_o the_o temporal_a lord_n in_o fide_fw-la &_o homagio_fw-la or_o since_o ed._n iii_o in_o fide_fw-la &_o ligeancia_fw-la which_o show_v that_o they_o be_v not_o summon_v mere_o as_o temporal_a baron_n 4._o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n confess_v the_o clergy_n to_o be_v one_o of_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n 86._o but_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v one_o of_o the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n from_o whence_o i_o argue_v thus_o either_o the_o clergy_n must_v be_v represent_v in_o parliament_n or_o one_o of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v not_o at_o all_o represent_v there_o and_o if_o one_o of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v not_o there_o represent_v how_o can_v it_o be_v a_o perfect_a representative_a so_o that_o this_o distinction_n of_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n unavoidable_o overthrow_v the_o parlament_n be_v a_o complete_a representative_a but_o in_o 23_o h._n viii_o n._n 33._o as_o mr._n petyt_n observe_v there_o be_v this_o passage_n in_o the_o parlament-roll_n it_o be_v consider_v and_o declare_v by_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o this_o realm_n 61._o now_o represent_v by_o all_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o same_o assemble_v in_o this_o present_a parliament_n therefore_o all_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n must_v be_v represent_v in_o parliament_n and_o 1_o eliz._n c._n 3._o the_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a and_o the_o commons_o be_v say_v to_o represent_v in_o parliament_n the_o three_o estate_n of_o the_o realm_n from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o parliament_n if_o the_o clergy_n be_v a_o estate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n as_o he_o say_v they_o be_v they_o must_v be_v represent_v in_o parliament_n or_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o realm_n can_v be_v there_o represent_v 2._o we_o now_o come_v to_o consider_v the_o weight_n of_o authority_n in_o this_o matter_n for_o which_o i_o shall_v premise_v two_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o whole_a parliament_n assemble_v be_v the_o best_a judge_n which_o be_v the_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n and_o their_o authority_n be_v more_o to_o be_v value_v then_o that_o of_o any_o particular_a person_n whether_o lawyer_n or_o other_o 2._o that_o no_o parliament_n can_v give_v better_a testimony_n in_o this_o matter_n than_o those_o which_o have_v assume_v 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