preist with the King Anno 50 E. 3. Numb 28 29. The Lord Latimer is Awarded to prison destre en guard du Marshal and afterwards upon Mainprise of diverse Earls suffered to go at large So it seemeth that first he was Committed and delivered to the Earl Marshal immediately Primo R. 2. William Fitz-Hugh was Committed to the Tower but it appeareth not who carried him thither At this Day the Lords have used to impose some Corporal punishment on Misdemeanors prout Flood And at this Day if a Peer be Committed to prison the Gentleman Usher hath the Charge of him thither and the Serjeant attending on the Great Seal prout Anno 18 Jac. 16 Febr. The Earl of Berks was sent to the Fleet by the Gentleman-Usher for forcibly thrusting the Lord Scroop in open House Anno 21 Jac. 13 Maii. The Earl of Middlesex was Committed to the Tower and a Warrant given to the Gentleman Usher to carry him thither Anno 1 Car. 1. In the Parliament begun 6 Febr. The Gentleman-Usher was commanded to bring the Earl of Bri-Bristol But if a Commoner be Committed the Serjeant at Arms attending on the Great Seal doth usually carry him to prison and he also hath the Charge of him and to see any Corporal punishment inflicted on him Anno 18 Jac Wright and two Serjeants at Mace who had Arrested a Servant to the were Censured to ride with Papers on their Heads for their wilful Contempt and Scorn of the Priviledges of Parliament And for that the Serjeant at Arms did not see the whole punishment Executed on them he himself was Committed CHAP. VIII For Recovery of Damages or Restitution of the Party aggrieved ANno 50 E. 3. Botheil and Cooper had each of them twenty pounds Awarded for their Damages and it is not there declared how they should recover the same In the same year John Lord Nevile upon Complaint of the Commons is awarded to make Restitution to the Executors of the Lady Ravensholme neither when the same is to be restored nor the manner how the same shall be recovered is declared In those two Cases I conceive the Parties are to have their Remedy the Parliament being ended in the Chancery and not in any other Inferior Court at the Common Law But the Lords in Parliament may direct how it shall be Levied Anno 1 R. 2. The Lords adjudged Alice Peirce to forfeit all her Lands and Goods to the King and notwithstanding this Forfeiture If she hath purchased any Lands by Force or Duress it shall be void and the Party grieved to have his Remedy by Process in the Chancery and by Advice of the Lords of the Councel Let Right be done and Restitution made Anno 7 R. 2. John Cavendish was awarded to pay 1000 Marks to the Lord Chancellor for his Damages and to remain in Prison until he had paid it FINIS Peers to render Judgment on Peers Quite contrary to the Law of the Land How Bishops are tryable The nature of the offence In whnt Cases c. Of Judgments on Delinquents Four manner of Accusations in Parliament Complaints by Petitions Petition Respons Answer Answer Impeachments of the Commons Observe Observe Mortymer and Cobham William de la Pool Duke of Suffolk impeached General Fame Lord Visc. St. Alban Chancellor accused who was Sir Francis Bacon Accusation Ex parte Domini Regis Of Accusation by Information Ex parte Domini Regis The Judgment defective in all points The Lord Berkley arraigned waved his Peerage Quest. Resolv Observ. The Earl of Bristol charged with Treason Articles against the Duke of Buckingham Quest. Resolve 1. Observ. A Petition The Lords cannot impeach any to themselves A great Oppression * Promâ—oter The Fishmonger contra L. Chancellor The Chancellors Answer The Chancellor acquitted The Fishmonger guilty of the Defamation Bish. Williams Lord Keeper The History of the Appeal of 11 R. 2. The Lords cannot proceed against a Commoner but upon complaint of the Commons Appeals abolished per Stat. 1 H. 4. c. 14. An Answer required though the Duke was known to be dead Found guilty long time after he was dead so forfeited his Estate The Party accused to be brought to his Answer Touching Councel In Misdemeanor the Party may have Councel to answer The Mayor and Commonalty of Cambr. accused The Parl. hath compelled a present Answer iu Misdemenors and without Councel The Replication next which belongs to him or them that sue Impeachment against the L. Latymer His Answer His Answer to each Particular W. Ellis impeach'd His Answ. The Reply The Lord Nevile impeach'd Witnesses Witnesses by the Commons A Committee for Trial of Alice Peirce George Duke of Clarence arraigned No man questions the Duke but the K. none answers the King but the Duke Against Law that the King should enforce Testimony against a Delinquent A Royal wise Answer The Commons accusare petere Observe In what Cases the King's Assent is necessarily required Peeres de la terre A bold Saying This Duke of Glouc. was many years after imprisoned for this at Calice there died in his Bed In Judgment on Misdemeameanors the King's Assent is not required The Lords Spiritual In Cases of Misdemenor they may be present In Cases Capital may not be present The Protestation of the Bishops forever Observ. No exceptions taken for the Absence of the Prelates Note especial The Presence of the Commons in Cases Capital The Presence of the Commons not necessary The Presence of the Judges How the Lords resolve on their Judgments Judgm for Satisfaction Touching the Demand By whom Judgment ought to be rendred The Precedents of Life and Death Obj.
JOHN SELDEN OF THE JUDICATURE IN Parliaments A Posthumous TREATISE WHEREIN The Controversies and Precedents belonging to that Title are Methodically handled LONDON Printed for Joseph Lawson Bookseller in the Bail of Lincoln And Sold by the Booksellers in London A Scheme of the Method and Contents CHAP. I. PEers to render Judgment of Peers pag. 1 Qu. Whether the Spiritual Lords de jure are triable by their Peers p. 4 Touching the Nature of the Offences triable in this High Court 6 CHAP. II. In what Cases Judicature belongs to the Parliament 8 Of Judgment on Delinquents 10 § I. 1. Their Accusation by the Commons 11 Four manner of Accusations in Parl. ib. Precedents of their Complaints 1. By Petition 12 2. By Demand 16 3. By Impeachment 17 § II. 2. Accusation ex parte Domini Regis p. 33 Some Delinquents accused in Parliament upon Common Fame without proof of Witnesses 37 The Judgment Repealed 38 No Peer can be Indicted in Parliament 39 He may be Indicted out of Parliament and proceeded against in the next Parliament upon the said Indictment 40 § III. Qu. Whether S. R. Ferrars 4 R. 2. was Legally brought to his Answer in Parliam by Commandment of the D. of L. 44. Whether he being no Peer nor Baron could be Legally Arraigned in Parliament by Information ex parte Regis Ib. Question Resolved 45 How the Earl of Bristol's Cause could be heard in the House of Lords notwithstanding 35 H. 8. 46 The Usage in such Cases and Precedents 48 Whether in a Trial before Lords and Commons the Commons are to Sit with their Speaker 54 § IV. Accusation ex Mandato Domini Regis ib. The Earl of Northumberland's Case 5 H. 4. ib. The Lords Impeach not any to themselves because they are Judges 63 The Manner of proceeding against a Delinquent that absents ib. § V. Of Accusation by Complaint of private persons 66 The Fishmongers Complaint against the Lord Chancellor 7 R. 2. 72 The Lord Chancellor his Defence 74 Of the Complaint against Bishop Williams Lord Keeper 80 The History of the Appeal 11 R. 2. 81 The Lords proceed not against a Commoner but upon the Complaint of the House of Commons 84 Appeals abolished 1 H 4. c. 14. 87. CHAP. III. The Parties Answer 89 The Party accused to be brought to his Answer 95 An Answer required from the D. of Gloucester to certain Accusations though he were dead and Judgment given upon him 91 Another Delinquent found guilty long after he was dead 95 In what Cases the Party is to answer as a Freeman in what as a Prisoner 97 Things to be considered in the Answer 97 Variation from the Ancient Course 100 Touching Council allowed him 102 § 2. When Council shall be allowed him and when not ib. In Misdemeanors the Party may have Council to Answer 103 But the Earl of Middlesex was denied it 21 Jac. 103 The Parliament hath compelled a present Answer in Misdemeanors and without Council 107 The Mayor c. accused by the Scholars of Cambridge ib. § 3. The Replication 109 Where the Articles against the Delinquent are ex parte Regis there the Commons do not reply nor demand Judgment ib. Impeachment of the Lord Latimer 111 William Ellis Impeached 114 Lord Nevile Impeached by the Commons ib. CHAP. IV. The Proof By Examination of Witnesses 120 Witnesses produced by the Commons ib. A Committee for Trial of Alice Pierce 123 A Jurie in Parliament for Misdemeanors 125 G. D. of Clarence Arraigned 127 CHAP. V. The Judgment 132 § 1. It belongeth to the Lords only 133 The Commons have no Right to it ib. § 2. In what Cases the King's Assent is necessarily required 136 Necessary in Capital Judgment 143 In Judgment on Misdemeanors the King's Assent is not required 144 § 3. The King's Presence in Parliament 39 § 4. The Presence of the Lords Spir. ib. In Cases of Misdemeanor aff ib. Capital neg ib. The Protestation of the Bishops for ever 150 Whether they can be present not Vote 152 A Bishop being Lord Chancellor was present at the giving Sentence in Case of Treason 156 § 5. Of the Presence of the Commons in Cases Capital 158 The Precedents 149 Their Presence not necessary unless when they impeach 160 Whether they Sit if they are present 161 Of the Presence of the Judges 162 § 6. The manner how the Lords resolve on their Judgment 167 Whether it be ultra Legem 168 Judgments for satisfaction 173 References to the Common Law 175 By whom to be demanded 176 By whom to be rendred ib. CHAP. VI. The Precedents for Life and Death 178 CHAP. VII The Execution of the Judgment 182 In Capital Offences In Misdemeanors CHAP. VIII The Recovery of Damages or Restitution to the Party aggrieved 187. JUDICATURE IN Parliament CHAP. I. Peers to render Judgment on Peers THE Execution of all our Laws hath been long since distributed by Parliament out of inferiour Courts in such sort as the Subjects were directed where to complain and the Justice how to redress wrongs and punish offences And this may be the reason of the Judges opinion in Thorps Case 31. Hen. 6. Num. 37. That Actions at Common-Law are not determined in this High Court of Parliament yet complaints have ever been received in Parliaments as well of private wrongs as publick offences And according to the quality of the Person and nature of the offence they have been retained or referred to the Common-Law Touching the quality of the Person the Lords of the Parliament did not anciently try any Offenders how great soever the offence was unless he were their Peer As by that of 4 E. 3. N. 2. where when the King commanded the Lords to give Judgment on Simon de Bereford and divers others also who were not their Peers for the murther of E. 2. and the destruction of the Earl of Kent Son of E. the first A proviso and agreement was made and recorded in these words Et est assensu accord c. And it is assented and accorded by our Lord the King and all the Grandees in full Parliament That albeit the Peers as Judges of the Parliament have took upon them and rendred the said Judgment c. That yet the said Peers who now are or shall be in time to come be not bound or charged to render Judgments upon others than Peers Nor that the Peers of the Land have power to do this but thereof ever to be discharged and acquitted And that the aforesaid Judgment rendred be not drawn to example or consequence in time to come whereby the said Peers shall do contrary to the Laws of the Land if the like Case happen which God forbid 4 E 3. N. 6. This Proviso and agreement was made by the Lords and Commons and it had these respects First to satisfy the Commons that the Lords by these Judgments intended not to alter the course of the Common-Law and therefore they disclaimed that they had power
the King and Lords deliberated The Judges of the Common Law and the Sages of the Civil Law were charged by the King to give their best Counsel to the Lords of the Parliament how to proceed in their Appeal rightly Who after long Consultation answered the Lords That the Appeal is in no point made and declared according to the Order of the Common or Civil Law The Lords after long Debate declared by the Assent of the King that the Offences being committed by the Peers the Cause should be determined in Parliament only and that by the Law and Order of Parliament only and adjudged the said Appeal with the Process thereon depending to be good according to the Laws and Course of Parliaments And the Default of Appearance was Recorded and Judgment given c. against those who made their default After which Sir Nicholas Brembre a Commoner was brought Prisoner before the King and the Lords at the request of the said Appellants And the said Articles being read he pleaded Not Guilty which he was ready to defend with his Body Whereupon the Commons of the Parliament said that they had seen and considered all the said Articles which they found to be true and that they likewise as much as in them lay did also accuse the said Appellees which they would have done and it appertained to them to have done had not the aforesaid Appellants pursued the said Appeals Whereupon was answered by the Lords of Parliament That the Battel doth not lie in this Case but that they upon examination of the Articles would proceed to Judgment Here I note That the Lords cannot proceed against a Commoner but upon a Complaint of the Commons But here is not expressed how the Commons came daily to have a sight of these Articles I deny not but after they were read in their presence for their presence is always understood in Judicature upon Life and Death prout postea they demanded a sight of the Articles and considered of them apart and then supplied the Defects thereof And this also is to be observed that the Commons accuse Commoners as the Lords do their own Peers I suppse that Brambre was denied the Battel because the Commons accused him also otherwise he ought to have it granted upon an Appeal Afterwards the Commons themselves accused and impeached divers Commoners prout 2 Mar. Sir Rob. Belknap L. Chief Justice of the Common Pleas Sir John Carey late Chief Baron and other Justices c. The Records were brought into the Parliament at the Demand of the Commons and the Commons accused the Justices for their untrue Answer made unto sundry Questions before the King at Nottingham to the emboldning of the aforesaid Offenders in their traiterous Designs and Attempts c. Unto which they answered c. were adjudged c. And then follows another Impeachment of the Commons thus The Accusements and Impeachments made by the Commons of the Realm against Simon de Burle Sir John Beauchamp Sir John Salisbury and Sir James Berners Knights do ensue underwritten whereof the Commons pray Judgment in this present Parliament Thus much touching the Appeal of 11 R. 2. But this begot another Appeal in the 21th of the said K. R. 2. in the Parliament begun Sept. 14. being the Feast of St. Oswald Edmond Earl of Rutland Tho. Earl of Kent John Earl of Hunt Tho. Earl of Nottingh Joh. Earl of Somerset Jo. Earl of Salisbury the Lord Despencer and William Scroop Chancellor unto our Lord the King in their proper persons delivered unto our Lord the King then sitting in the great Hall within the Castle at Nottingh in his Royal Estate with a Crown on his Head a Bill of Appeal against Tho. Duke of Gloucester Richard Earl of Arundel and Tho. Earl of Warwick The which Bill of Appeal is recited in that Parliament and as it seems per Copiam verborum inde was penned by the Advice of some Civil Lawyer It seems also they were very careful herein to avoid all Errors of the former Appeals For in that of 11 R. 2. they appealed divers Commoners but here the Lords appealed none but Peers then it was done by word of mouth they being called to the King upon some other occasion but now it was done solemnly in writing and was delivered to the King sitting in his Throne of State There they offer'd to prove their Accusation by Battel a thing not meet for the Parliament or in what course his Majesty would ordain it but here the Bill was read in Parliament and they said they have been and are ready to prove c. as you our thrice Redoubted King and this Honourable Court of Parliament should ordain Nor were they less careful in their proceeding to Judgment to avoid the Errors in the former prout in the Answer But these Appeals are now abolished by 1 H. 4. c. 14. and not without cause for as this Accusation was extraordinary so were the Proceedings carried with a strong hand the former by the Lords this by the King prout ex Chroniculis in quinto comparet cum Codice 1 Maij A Brief whereof so much as concerns this Appeal follows hereafter at large with the Precedents of 21 R. 2. Ad quod Parliamentum convenire jussit Rex omnes Dominos sibi adhaerentes cum Sagittariis viris armatis tanquam ad bellum contra hostes omnino progressuri fuissent Ipse vero Rex ut efficacius proficere possit nequam conceptus malefactores de Comit ' Cestr ' congregari fecit ad velandum locum stramine c. Erexerat autem Rex quandam domum amplissimam in Palatio Westmonaster ' quae pene totum Palatii spatium occupavit in qua sibi Thronus parabatur altissimus pro cunctis Regni Statibus locus largus pro Appellantibus in uno latere locus specialiter deputatus in alio latere locus largus pro Responsu assignatus seorsim vero pro Nobilitatibus Parliamenti qui non fuerunt electi per Communitatem Et Forale nuncupatur Parliamentum Thus much of Accusation by Appeal which when any of the Lords accused others out of Parliament was summoned but God be thanked they are abolished 1 H. 4. c. 14. CHAP. III. The Parties Answer THe Party accused is to be brought to his Answer otherwise the whole Judgment will be erroneous as was Mortym 23 E. 3. Numb 10. and Spencer's 15 E. 2. and John Matrevers 21 E. 3. Numb 65. dors Although the Party be absent yet the Parliament hath used all means possible to have his Answer prout 21 R. 2. where the Lords Appellants and the Commons also accused Tho. Mortymer of Treason and the Commons said That it was notoriously known unto them that the King had sent his Mandate by W. D. a Serjeant at Arms unto the said Mortymer in Ireland commanding him upon his Allegiance to come before the King in all haste to answer c. And that the
Precedents mention the King's Assent in Capital Judgments except that one against Matrevers 4 E. 3. which might be the omission of the Clerks who drew up the Roll for it is said directly afterwards in the said Bill Numb 6. That the Peers gave those Judgments in the presence of our Lord the K. and by his Assent And except that of 1 R. 2. against Weston in the last Day of the Parliament and it was 3. in the Afternoon that Day before the Lords had determined what to do in that Business so that it may be the Lords were prevented of time herein to have which they respited Execution for that the King was not informed of the manner thereof Secondly For that the Lords Appellants 11 R. 2. who had then great Forces about them were so earnest with the King for his Assent to the Judgment against Burley That the Duke of Gloucest told him as appeareth by his own Confession 21 R. 2. That if he would be King he should not intreat for Simon de Burley to save him from Death And in the end when his Majesty would not assent to their Judgment yet they wrought so that Messengers were sent unto him and brought word not before they gave Judgment against Simon and the King's Assent is mentioned in the said Judgment All which the said Lords would not have done had not the King's Assent been necessary And afterwards in the Parliament of 21 R. 2 The Lord Cobham being accused for giving Judgment without the King's Assent answered That the Messenger brought word That his Majesty had assented And yet because he did not gainsay that the King did deny his Assent the Commons immediately demanded Judgment All which seem to imply That the King's Assent is necessary in Judgments upon Capital Offences Touching the Second viz. Judgment against the King 's Will. It is all one with Judgment without the King's Assent Touching the Third viz. In the Absence of the King The Judgments of this kind are good notwithstanding so as the King doth assent as that of Simon de Burley 11 R. 2. Touching the Absence of many of the Peers That is to say of many of them and against their will This cannot invalid their Judgment so as the greater number of the Lords be then present accompting the Proxies of the absent Lords for it is not material whether some Lords do absent themselves or disassent The chiefest Matter is the Assent of the Lords who are present either in Person or by Proxy The others are to Answer for their Absence without a just Cause shewn or a proper Assent § 2. In Judgment on Misdemeanors the King's Assent is not required 50 E. 3. The Lords judged divers Commoners for Misdemeanors and the King's Assent not mentioned as Richard Lyons William Lord Latymer a Privy Councellor John Lord Nevil a Privy Councellor Jo. Peecher and others The King was then sick at his Mannor of Eltham and on the last day of the Parliament the Lords Prelates and Commons came before him there and he heard the Petitioners and their Answers for most part read and also Judgment given on the Privy Councellors and others dont ils se leyron franchement le respons de mesme nostre Seignior le Roy Numb 15. Which shews that the King had not assented to them 7 R. 2. The Bishop of Norwich was accused of Misdemeanors and judged in 10 R. 2. The Lord Chancellor Mich. de la Poole was judged by the Lords for Misdemeanors and Speed fol. saith That the King was much displeased thereat for it appeareth he gave not his consent And it was one of the Questions demanded of Tresilian and others 11 R. 2. Whether the Judgment were erroneous or not and resolved to be erroneous yet it was not objected against any the Lords Appellors that the Judges proceeded without the King's Assent §. 3. The King's Presence in Parliament In 4 E. 3. The King commanded the Lords to do right and lawful Judgment on Mortimer The which Earls Barons and Peers having examined the Articles came again before the King and said c. Ibidem The King commanded them to give Judgment on Simon de Bereford The which Earls Barons and Peers came again before the King and said c. And so the King was present at their Judgment but not at their Consultations 10 R. 2. The King was present when the Commons accused the Lord Chaneellor William de la Poole of Misdemeanors but he was not present at his Trial for he demanded if he ought to answer sans presence de dit Roy being Chancellor and in the end he answered notwithstanding 21 R. 2. In the cruel Parliament of the Lords Appellants the King was present at the Parlies Non constat whether he was present at the Consultation of the Lords 5 H. 4. The King was present when the Earl of Northumberland was to be tried upon his own Petition and so were the Commons And the King delivered the Petition to the Judges for their Opinion but the Lords claimed their Right But this was on the Wednesday and the Friday following the King and Commons met there again and the Chancellor rehearseth First What was done the first Day and the Lords having had competent deliberation on the said Petition and having heard and considered the Statute They adjudged c. It is plain the King was not present at this Consultation of the Lords though at their Judgment 7 H. 4. He commanded the Lords to advise what manner of Process shall be made and what Judgment shall be rendred against Henry de Peircy Earl of Northumberland and a Week after the Lords declared their Opinion to the King And it appeareth in that Roll very clearly that all Evidences and Examinations were shewn and taken by the Lords in the absence of the King and their Advice also agreed on in his Absence but the Judgment reversed in his Presence To conclude The King may be present if he please at the Parties Answer in Capital Causes and at the Judgments given prout c. But he was never present at other times of Proceeding against the Delinquent nor at any Answer for Misdemeanors for ought I have yet seen §. 4. The Presence of the Lords Spiritual In Cases of Misdemeanors the Lords Spiritual have ever been present but never in Offences Capital This is so generally-received of all men that it is not worth the Labour to prove it yet I will vouch the Precedents For it may be out of one or other of them somewhat may occur worthy the Observation In Misdemeanors In 1 R. 2. Alice Peirce was brought before the Prelates and Lords in Parliament to Answer and the Prelates and Lords did ordain 42 E. 3. Numb 20 c. John at Lee was put to Reason before the Prelates Lords Dukes Earls Barons and some of the Commons 7 R. 2. Jo. Cavendish accused the Lord Chancellor of Bribery before the Prelates and Lords in
Parliament The Chancellor Answered before the Prelates and Lords In Offences Capital In 4 E. 3. The Earl of Kent was brought before the Counts Barons autres Grandees and Nobles en mesme Parlement c. for Treason dors Numb 38. Eodem Anno The Articles of Treason being read against Mortimer the King charged les Counts Barons les Peeres de son Realme to give Judgment And Judgment was given per les dits Counts Barons Peeres come Judges del Parlement Item The King commanded les dits Counts Barons Assembled in Parliament to give Judgment on c. and so were four others tried in the same Parliament all for Treason and not one word of the Prelates either when the Articles were read or at the Judgment 6 E. 3. Numb 11 12. Post Festum Sancti Gregorii The Parliament being commanded to consult of the keeping of the Peace and Punishment for the breaking thereof the Prelates departed pur ceo que aviz fuit dits Prelates que ne attinet pas a eux consuler de guard de la Pees ne de chastisament de tiel yet afterwards when they heard what was ordained touching those Malefactors for the apprehension of them by Hue and Cry c. to bring them before certain Commissioners to be tried according to Law the Prelates gave their Consents also to the Act and added also Excommunication by the Assent of King Lords and Commons Anno 10 R. 2. The Commons prayed That such as gave up Forts puissent estre a respons cest Parlement Et selon leur desert puis per guard les Seigniors Baronage And thereupon John Gomeniz William Weston were brought before the Lords aforesaid in full Parliament c. It is to be understood before the Temporal Lords for the Bishops are never comprized in the Word Baronage Anno 11 R. 2. Divers Lords and others being appealed of Treason other misdemeanors the Prelates absented themselves during the Tryal having first made Protestation saving their Right to be present in Parliament Regni more solito considerare tractare ordinare statuere definire caetera excercere cum caeteris Paribus c. Verum quia in praesenti Parliamento de nonnullis materiis agitur in quibus non licet nobis juxta Canonum Sacrorum instituta quomodo libet interesse Eo propter pro nobis nostrum quolibet Protestatur quod non intendimus nec volumus sicuti de jure non possumus nec debemus nec intenditur nec vult aliquis nostrum in Parliamento dum de hujusmodi rebus agitatur vel agitur quomodo libet interesse sed nos nostrum quemlibet in ea parte penitus absentare Jure Paritatis nostrae cujuslibet nostrum interessend in dicto Parliamento quoad omnia singula ibidem excercenda juris eorum quilibet statu Ordine in omnibus semper salvo Ad haec insuper protestamur nostrum quilibet protestatur quod propter hujusmodi absentiam non intendimus nec volumus nec nostrum aliquis intendit nec vult quod processus habiti habendi in praesenti Parliamento super materiis antedictis in quibus nec possumus nec debemus ut praemittitur interesse quantum ad nos nostrum quem libet attinet futuris temporibus quomodo libet impugnentur infirmentur seu etiam revertentur This was read in full Parliament and enrolled at the Request of the Commons I mean the Prelates by the Kings Command and assent of the Lords Temporal and Commons Here the Protestation saith de jure interesse non debemus but I think it intends that they could not be present by reason of the Common-Law and by reason of an Ordinance made at the Councell at Westminster in 21. H. 2. By which all Clergy-men were forbidden agitare Judicium sanguinis upon pain to be deprived both of Dignities and Orders For surely as I think they might otherwise have been present both by the Common-Law and by the Law of God But by such their long constant absence even from our first Parliaments upon Record The Lords Temporal have only heard and determined all matters concerning Capital offences which hath continued in them so long that it is become their Right c. So that now it will be a wrong unto them the Lords Temporal if the Bishops do any way meddle with such Judicatures either touching the Answers the Replyes the Proofs or the Judgement For where they may not adjudg they may not do any thing as a Judge that doth conduce to judgment And therefore as heretofore they would be absent Now they cannot be present whilst the Matter is in hand but are to be absent altogether dum de hujusmodi materiis agitatur For some or other matter may happen to be Voted in their presence concerning the Answer Replication c. or concerning the Form of Judicature herein And by the Voices of the Spiritual Lords that Vote may pass against the major part of the Temporal Lords who should sustain wrong therein Can they be present and not Vote I know that at all Assizes and Sessions divers of the Clergy are present till Judgment be given in such Cases but their Presence cannot prejudice the Judge at the Assizes by Vote as in Parliament And at Sessions the Lay and Clergy are equally in Authority to hear and determine Eodem Anno 11 R. 2. A Special Act passed at the Request of the Commons to make good those Appeals and Judgments notwithstanding that the Spiritual Lords pur benefit salvatioun de lour Estate Cap. 3. in Parl. Roll N. 28. This Act I conceive was occasioned by the Clause in the said Protes 〈…〉 of the Prelates Ad haec insuper Protest 〈…〉 c. quod processus habiti habendi in praesenti Parliamento super Materiis praedictis in quibus nec possumus nec debemus interesse ut praemittitur quantum ad nos attinet futuris temporibus non impugnentur c. For there is no such Act to make good any former Judgment notwithstanding their Absence And 2 H. 5. Upon the Petition of the E. of Salisbury the King Lords Temporal adjudged the Judgment against his Father in Parliament 2 H. 4. to be good notwithstanding that it was rendred without the consent of the Lords Spiritual which yet the said Earl alledged as Error in his Petition so that by the Judgment of the whole House neither the Presence nor Absence of the Spiritual Lords in necessary in such Judgments In 21. R. 2. The first Petition that the Commons offered was That before this time many Judgments and Ordinances made in the time of the Kings Ancestors in Parliament have been repealed because the Clergy was not present in Parliament at the making of the Judgments and therefore they desired that the Clergy might make a Proctor with a suffici 〈…〉 to consent in their wants 〈…〉 Things and Ordinances to be done in this
Parliament Numb 9. Whereupon the Prelates and Clergy being severally examined deputed for them all Tho. de Piercy But in ancient times in libro Mailicess Numb 9. which hath written somewhat largely of this Parliament It is said The Pardon 's granted to the Earls of Arundel were first repealed by the Assent of the Prelates for which he blames them much saying Dederunt ergo locum Praelati Judicio Sanguinis in hoc facto ita quod dubitatur à pluribus si incurrunt irregularitatem pro negotio memorato unde contigit quod propter istud minus peccatum consequentur nam exactum est ab iis vellent nollent ut Laicam Personam constituerent ad Judicium Sanguinis dandum in dicto Parliamento si necesse foret occasio emersisset I have perused all Judgments and Ordinances in Parliament and do not yet find one whereto any Exceptions were taken for the Absence of the Prelates and Clergy I find an Exception to the Judgment of the Exile in 15 E. 2. for that it was made without the Assent of the Prelates who were present and protested in writing against it And one of the Errors whereupon it was repealed is for that it was made without the Assent of them who were Peers of the Realm in Parliament But this Repeal was per duress force c. prout 1 E. 3. c. 2. So as this cannot be alledged for a Legal Precedent 5 H. 4. The Earl of Northumberland came before the King the Lords and Commons in Parliament The Lords made Protestation that the Judgment belonged to them only c. The Petition being read before the King and the said Lords as Peers of the Parliament unto whom such Judgments do of Right belong considering c. adjudged that it was neither Treason nor Felony c. Note That all this Parliament the Bishop of was Chancellor and he as Chancellor delivered the Opinion of the Lords when they had acquitted the said Earl of Treason Whereby it seems that He and the other Bishops were present at the Trial of Life and Death wherefore though the Record doth here say the Lords indefinitely we must understand the Lords Temporal only especially since they claimed the said Judgment to belong to them In 4 E. 3. Judgment was given by the Earls Barons and Peers as Judges in Parliament in point of Treason where the Prelates are not named and therefore understood of the Temporal Lords only This will be explained by the next of 7 H. 4. Rot. Process coram Domino Rege c. The King commanded the Lords Temporal Peers of this Realm to advise what Process to make and what Judgment to render against the Earl of Northumberland and the Lord Bardolph The Lords advised thereupon and reported their Opinions to the King The said Lords Peers of the Realm by Assent of the King Ordain That Proclamation should be made for the said Earl and Lord Bardolph to appear or else to be Convicted by Award of the Peers in Parliament The King did farther demand the Opinion of the said Lords Temporal touching the Archbishop of York unto whom the said Lords Temporal said c. The Commons prayed the King that they might have Cognizance c. Whereupon by Advice of the Lords Temporal the Returns of the former Proclamations were made at the Parliament-door for the said Earl and Lord to appear By Advice of the said Lords Temporal the Returns of the former Proclamations were examined the said Lords Temporal considered of the Errors therein By the said Lords Temporal with the Assent of the King by their Authority New Proclamation is granted the Return whereof is read in full Parliament before the King and the said Lords Temporal Whereupon the said Lords Temporal then being in the said Parliament by Advice and Assent of our Lord the King by their Authority in Parliament Awarded the said c. Convict of Treason Here all was done by the Lords Temporal from the first beginning of the Trial until the Judgment and yet the Judgment is said to be in Full Parliament notwithstanding the Spiritual Lords are not once mentioned nor intended to be present at any time whilst the Matter of Treason was handled §. 5. Touching the Presence of the Commons in Cases Capital I observe the Presence of the Commons to be necessary at the Parties Answer and Judgment in Cases Capital Now one Reason for the King's Assent and the Commons presence in such Judgments may be this Both King and People are to be satisfied for the death of the Subject therefore all Trials for Life and Death are publick in the full Assembly of the Court And how can it be said in Full Parliament when the Commons one of the States are absent For this purpose the Court of Requests called Camera Alba was prepared for such Trials where both Lords and Commons might meet more conveniently yet though the Commons were present at such times they had no Voice there But at their Return to their own Assembly they considered among themselves if the Proceedings were Legal and might come again and shew it and require a Rehearsing of that Cause as they did at the Judgment of the Duke of Clarence 18 E. 3. Nor are the Commons to be present when the Lords do consider of the Delinquent's Answer and the Proofs and do determine of their Judgment The Precedents are these 10 R. 2. Gomeniz and Weston were brought before the Lords and Commons seaux a la blanch Chambre and Answered on Friday 27 Novemb. and there they were delivered to the Constable of the Tower who was commanded to bring them again the next Morning In the mean time the Earls Barons and Baronets assembled and advised from the time that the said Answers were given in Parliament on Friday until part of Saturday to the hour of Three of the things touching the Answer aforesaid and then the Prisoners were brought in to the Parliament 10 R. 2. Rot. de Pardonatione Haxei 7 Febr. Anno praedicto Praedictus Tho. Haxei coram Nobis omnibus Dominis Parliamenti Nostri existentibus in Alba Camera adductus fuit Billa praedicta coram praefato Thoma ibidem per Praeceptum Nostrum lecta fuit Quaesitum fuit per Charissimum Avunculum Nostrum Ducem Aquitain Lanc. Seneschallum Angliae à praefato Thoma si ipse dictum praefatum Communibus tradidit 5 H. 4. The Earl of Northumberland was brought to his Trial on Wednesday Then the Commons were present but I do not find that they were present with the Lords between Wednesday and Friday when the Lords advised on the Earl's Petition This Record mentions not where the Assembly was Numb 7. H. 4. Quint. of his Reign After the Lords had Awarded Proclamation against the Earl of Northumberland and the Lord Bardolph to appear at a Day or Judgment to be given The Commons not being acquainted therewith they came and prayed the King they might
to do this and confess it was contrary to the Law of the Land Secondly to preserve their own Right to Judge none but the Peers in Case of Life and Death For then the Kings Steward is to sit in the Chancellors place and the Lords are to be Tryers and Judges And so by judging others then their Peers descended below their degrees For none but Peers are so to be Tryed and Judged It is otherwise in Cases of misdemenors then the Chancellor keeps his Place and the Lords are only Judges and not Tryers they may command a Jury to be Impannelled For Tryal of the Facts if the truth appear not by the Parties answer the Testimonies are Exhibited as 1 R. 2. in the Case of Alice Peirce Here ariseth a Question Whether the Spiritual Lords de Jure are tryable by their Peers or no Out of Parliament they are not to be Tryed by the Peers But the doubt is whether in time of Parliament they are to be so Tryed or no To me it seems they may if the matter be moved against them in time of Parliament For as it is in the Parliament at York 15 E. 2. in the Act for the Repeal of the Spencers banishment they are Peers in Parliament Note that the Petition for the Repeal saith that the Bishops are Peers in Parliament The Bishops name themselves Peers of the Land And the Chancellor to the King And the Act stile them Peers of the Land in Parliment There be divers Presidents also of the Tryal of Bishops by their Peers in Parliament as well for Capital offences as misdemenors whereof they have been accused in Parliament As the Archbishop of Canterbury 15 E. 3. N. 6 7 8. Et ibid. postea 44 39. Et ibid. 17 E. 3. 22. And the Bishop of Norwich 7. R. 2. for misdemeanors So were the Bishops of York and Chichester Tryed for Treason by their Peers in Parliament upon the Appeal of the Lords Appellants 11 R. 2. Anno 21 R. 2. The Commons accused the Archbishop of Canterbury of Treason and the temporal Lords judged him a Traytor and banished him But if the Bishop be accused out of Parliament he is to be tryed by an Ordinary Jury of Free-holders for his honour is not inheritable as is the temporal Peers out of Parliament save that only of their Tryal As no day of Grace to be granted against them in any Suit A Knight to be returned upon the Pannel where a Bishop is party and no Process in a civil action to be awarded against his body and the like And by this it appeareth what Persons are de Jure tryable by the Lords in Parliament viz. their Peers only Touching the nature of the Offence Herein the complaint and accusation as well of the Party delinquent as offence is to be considered For upon the Information of the King at his Commandment or upon complaint of private Persons the Lords may not by the Law try any but their Peers for Capital offences And the Lords have ever referred offences of other nature complained of by private Persons to the Common-Law if there be remedy unless some special cause appear fit for their own Judgment But upon complaints and accusations of the Commons the Lords may proceed in Judgment against the Delinquent of what degree soever and what nature soever the offence be For where the Commons complain the Lords do not assume to themselves tryal at Common-Law Neither do the Lords at the tryal of a Common Impeachment by the Commons decedere de jure suo For the Commons are then in stead of a Jury and the Parties answer and examination of witnesses are to be in their Presence or they to have Copies thereof And the Judgment is not to be given but upon their demand which is in stead of a verdict so the Lords do only judg not try the Delinquent In the Lords proceedings in Judicature is observed also a certain form which varieth according to the nature of the complaint and the matter complained of so that no general Rules can be given therein though many Judgments have been reversed for errors whereof there be many Precedents And the Execution upon life and death hath been stayed at the Request of the Commons the proceedings being illegal whereof I have seen only one Precedent touching the Duke of Clarence tempore E. 4. Wherefore for our better understanding of the Form of Judicature let us first consider the several causes wherein Judicature belongs to the Parliament and then the ancient way of proceedings in each Cause CHAP. II. In what Cases Judicature belongs to the Parliament JUdicature belongs to the Parliament in these six Cases 1. In Judgments against Delinquents as well for Capital crimes as misdemeanors wherein is to be considered 1. The Accusation 2. The Parties Answer 3. The Replication 4. The proof by Examination of witnesses or otherwise 5. The Judgment 6. The Execution 2. In the Reversing erronious Judgments in Parliament are to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The bringing in the Record 3. The Assignment of Errors 4. The Reversal thereof 3. In the Reversing of erronious Judgments given in the Kings Bench are to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The Writ of Error 3. The bringing in the Record 4. The Assignment of Errors 5. The Writ of Scire facias 6. The Defendants answer 7. The Reversal of the Judgment 4. In deciding of Suits long depending either for difficulty or delay wherein is to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The advice with the Judges 3. The determination of the Lords 5. In hearing complaints of particular Persons on Petitions wherein is to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The Defendants answer 3. The Proof 4. The Orders of the Lords 6. In setting at Liberty any of their own Members or Servants imprisoned and in staying the proceedings at the Common-Law during the Priviledge of Parliament wherein consider 1. The Quality of the Person Imprisoned 2. The Parties Answer at whose Suit he is imprisoned 3. The manner of his Charge In certifying the Elections and Returns of Knights and Citizens for the Parliament But now the Commons alone determine of this Wherefore I will only shew that the Commons did heretofore Petition to the Lords for redress herein and what course was then taken I leave it to the Clerk of that House to shew how the Commons proceed herein at this day Of the rest in Order And first Of Judgments on Delinquents § 1. In Judgment against Delinquents is first to be considered the Accusation For as in the Kings Bench the Justices proceed not to the Arraignment of any Offender without an Indictment So the Lords have not proceeded to Judgment unless the Crimes have first been presented to them by way of Accusation If otherwise their Judgments have been reputed erronious as that against the Spencers was in 15 E. 2. Rot. 2. claus lit penden For the same Persons cannot be both Accusers
and Judges I have observed four manner of Accusations in Parliament 1. First by the Commons either by their Complaints or their Impeachments 2. Secondly by Information Ex. parte Dom. Regis 3. Thirdly by Complaint of private Persons 4. Fourthly by Appeal of some of the Lords in Parliament which was abolished p. Stat. 1. H. 4. c. 14. The Accusation of the Commons The manner of Accusation ought to be by the Commons alone and not by the Lords and them together for so Earls Prelates Barons and other Peers of the Land and Commons of the Realm did accuse Hugh de le Spencer 15 E. 2. and one of the Errors assigned for the Reversal was that the Lords had no Record before them of the Causes contained in their Award vis Rot. claus 15 E. 3. in the Parliament at York The Reasons may be because the Lords joyning in the Accusation with the Commons have declared their opinion of the Fact and there needs no further Tryal thereof Wherefore the Lords who are only Judges may neither accuse any to themselves nor joyn in the Accusations with others The complaint of the Commons is either by Petition or demand in general or by Impeachment in particular which is their Declaration against the party accused Precedents of their Complaints by Petition are Anno 21 E. 3. n. 38. The Commons complain of Extortion used by certain Merchants who were Farmers of the Kings Customs of Wools not naming the Parties for which they pray remedy and that the said Merchants may be put to their answer in this Parliament for such outrage and distress done to the people Which Petition is thus answered Let the Merchants be called into the Parliament Et oient lour Respons In codem Parl. n. 49. The Commons in another Petition complain That whereas diverse aids have been granted to the King for his Wars certain Merchants by confederacy between them and in manner of usury have bargained for the same to the Kings great loss and the grievance of the Commons c. His people pray these Particulars may be examined in presence of some by the said Commons deputed by good wise and Loyal men during the Parliament The King shall assign some of the Sages of his Council to hear and determine the things contained in this Article And if any of the Commons can inform the King for his profit of any of the Points herein contained let him put it in certain and he shall be heard to the end that Right and reason may be done And the Justices which shall be assigned to enquire of false Mony shall have power to enquire of the excess of such Ministers Though these complaints were general yet they pointed so directly to the Parties accused that John de Worsenham and Walter de Chairton did exhibit their Petitions also in their own defence desiring to come to their Answers What further proceedings were herein is not recorded The Commons were directed to impeach the Parties whom they accused If any of the Commons can inform c. Let him inform in certain and he shall be heard c. So that although the Commons accusation by complaint be general yet if the complaint be received and the Parties brought to answer the Commons may then impeach the said Parties viz. declare against them in special and then the Suit is theirs prout Anno 50 E. 3. against Lyons Ellis the Lord Latimer the Lord Nevile Peecher and others But if the Commons do only accuse by any way of complaint whatsoever and do not declare in special against the Party accused then the Suit is the Kings and the Party is to be arraigned or otherwise proceeded against by commandment Ex parte Dom. Regis prout Gomeniz Weston and Alice Peirce 1 R. 2. Anno 1 H. 4. The Commons pray the Lords Apellants in the 21 R. 2. may be put to their answer and so they were 10 Placit Coron of that Parl. n. 1. 2. 3. c. Anno 29 H. 6. The Commons pray that the Duke of Somerset the Dutchess of Suffolk the Bishop of London and many others may be abandoned from the Kings Presence during their lives and not come within twelve Miles of the Court for that the people spoke evil of them The King of his own meer motion is contented that all shall depart unless they be Lords and a few of them whom he may not spare from his presence and so to continue one year to see if any man can misprove them n. 6. inter Petitiones Communium For this was no Accusation for the Commons did not require they might be banished the Court. Anno 38 H. 6. The Commons among their Petitions accuse the Lord Stanley of sundry Particulars as to be of confederacy with the Duke of York and pray he may be committed to Prison The King will be advised Primo Jac. 26 Maii. The Commons by message accuse the Bishop of London for words spoken of them in the upper House Of the other kind of complaint by way of demand I have seen these two Precedents only Anno 1 R. 2. The Subsidy to be treated upon between the Lords and Commons as the manner then was The Commons delivered to the Lords a Schedule of their demands to be dispatched before Treaty should proceed Amongst which one was That all such who without Cause have lost or given up any Castle Town or Fortress to the dishonour of the King and damage of the People may be put to their Answer before the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament The Complaint herein is general They accuse such as had delivered up Castles c. if it be an Accusation But they name not the Parties yet two Delinquents hereupon who were Imprisoned in the Tower for delivery of Castels c. were put to their Answer viz. Gomeniz and Weston Anno 7 R. 2. The Commons grant a Subsidy according to the Tenor of a Schedule indented delivered in Parliament requiring it may be enrolled in the Parliament Roll verbatim in which Schedule is this Protestation That it is not their meaning to grant the said Subsidy without the Conditions ensuing Inprimis That the Clergy make the like Grant Item That the Bishop of Norwich and others be compelled to answer such Sums as they have received for Service by them undertaken and not performed c. Numb 13. Here the Commons name one of the Parties against whom they complain but they impeach him not and yet he and divers others were censured on that general demand Of the Impeachments of the Commons there be these Precedents Anno 50. E. 3. The Commons having granted the Subsidy they protested their good will and firm purpose to aid the King and said That it seemed to them for truth that if the King had always about him Loyal Subjects good Councellors and faithful Officers he had been rich in Treasure and needed not have charged his Commons with Subsidies
c. Then they desired that three things might be enquired of 1. First the withdrawing the Staple from Callis by the Council and Procurement of some Privy Councellors about the King 2. Secondly of Loans to the King by way of Usury receiving again greater Sums than they disbursed wherein some Privy Councellors have been Partners 3. Thirdly of buying the King's Debts by way of Bargain some for the 10 th Peny some for the 20 th or 100 th Peny and procuring the King to pay the entire Debt to the King's loss and profit of some Privy Councellors and others of their Covyn Of which three Articles and their Dependencies the Commons said They would make farther Declaration in special whensoever it shall please the King to hear them Numb 15 16. Then follows their particular Impeachments and Accusations First Richard Lyons Merchant of London is impeached and accused by the Commons of many Deceits Extortions and many other ill deeds by him done to our Lord the King and his People as well during the time he was retaining to the King's House and to the King's Council as otherwise whilst he was Farmer of the Subsidy and Customs of the King And in special of this that the said Richard by Covyn made between him and some of the Privy-Council of our Lord the King for their private Profit and Advantage hath procured many Patents and Writs of License to transport great quantities of Wools and Wool-fells and other Merchandize beyond the Seas to other places than the Staple at Callis contrary to the Ordinances c. And so they declare of many other Villanies in great deceipt of the King and of his Court Whereunto the said Richard being then present in Parliament said c. Then follows his Answer in particular to what was particularly alledged against him and in general to what was generally charged upon him The Lords reassured him for that which was particularly objected against him and granted Commissions to enquire of the Extortions wherewith he was charged in general Then the Commissioners in like manner accused and impeached William Lord Latimer of divers Extortions Grievances Deceits and ill Deeds viz. of divers Oppressions when he served the King in Britain for being Partner with Richard Lyons c. and for loss of Towns and Forts beyond the Seas Numb 21. Item William Ellis of Great Tarmouth was impeached in this present Parliament in divers manners First by Surmise of the Commons c. Numb 11. And afterwards John Botheil and William Cooper exhibited their two Bills in form which followeth To their thrice redoubted Lord the King and to the said Council shewn c. complaining of the Oppressions of the said William Ellis unto them and others c. and their Oath was taken against him Numb 32. Item John Peecher of London Merchant was accused and impeached by the said Commons That he by the assent and aid of Richard Lyons and of other Privy Councellors for their private profit and advantage have purchased a Patent under the Great Seal of our Lord the King containing that none shall sell sweet Wines within the Francheses of the City of London but only the said John Numb 38. Item John Nevill was likewise impeached c. for buying the King's Debts c. and for loss of Towns beyond the Seas Here I observe that though the Commons complained 50 E. 3. but of three Grievances viz. of the withdrawing the Staple from Callis of Loans to the King upon excessive Usury and of buying the King's Debts yet when they who were accused appeared they declared against them for other matters also As against Lyons for new Impositions upon Wools without assent in Parliament and against the Lord Latimer for his misgovernment beyond the Seas and loss of Forts there and against Peecher for a Monopoly of sweet Wines c. I observe also that their Declaration is not made according to the strict forms of Law as you may perceive by that against Lyons wherein so many Extortions are so generally set down against him that he made no answer to them neither could c. Which Impeachment the Lords notwithstanding did not reject but supplied the defects thereof by granting Commissions to enquire thereof Ibid. Numb 20. in fine Item In this Parliament of 50 E. 3. an Ordinance was made against Women's pursuing businesses in the King's Court and especially against Alice Peirce Numb 45. I find no Accusation against Alice Peirce I only conjecture that the Commons complained of her though it be not entred for she is in the number of them whom in the next Parliament of 50 E. 3. Numb 87. the Speaker of the Commons names to be unjustly convicted in this Parliament And none were there convicted but those whom the Commons complained of Item Adam de Bury Citizen of London was impeached by the Clamor of the Commons in this Parliament of many Deceits and other ill things done to the King and to his People whilest he was Mayor of Callis and Captain of Bullingam and other ways as more at large appears in one great Bill delivered in Parliament the last day of this Parliament at Eltham And thereupon the said Adam was sent for to come to answer in Parliament and he came not neither could be found Wherefore it was awarded that all his Goods and Chattels should be put in Arrest and so it was done by Writs sent to the Sheriffs of London and Kent And the said Bill is on File with the special Petitions of Parliament 50 E. 3. Numb 11. Out of this last Precedent concerning Adam de Bury I observe two things 1. First whom they complained of The Lords sent for him only to appear before them they sent not to apprehend him as a Delinquent until he contemn'd their Demand whereof more hereafter in the Title of the Parties Answer 2. Secondly that the Commons delivered not their Impeachment that is their Declaration against the Party accused until he appeared before the Lords and then they kept it untill the last day of the Parliament in hope that he would be brought before the Lords and when they saw he could not be found they then delivered their Impeachment against him to the end as I concieve the particulars of their Accusation might remain upon Record against them hereafter Here I also observe an Error of the Clerk that he hath omitted the Proceedings against Alice Peirce John de Leycester and Walter Spooner who were all convicted in this Parliament as appeareth by the Speaker's motion to the King for their Pardons in the next Parliament 50 E. 3. Numb 87. Thus much touching the Commons Accusations and Impeachments The next Precedent is in 11 R. 2. in which Parliament the whole Commons with one assent assembled came before the King Prelates and Lords in the Parliament Chamber complaining grievously of Michael de la Poole Earl of Suffolk Chancellor of England there present accusing him openly by word of Mouth 1. First
King and then at a day the ancient use in such Cases was this The Lords considered of the Complaint and examined the Proofs produced by the Commons Then agreed on their Judgment and caused Proclamation to be made throughout England for the party to appear at a day else Judgment shall be pronounced against him with which the Commons are to be acqnainted before the Proclamations are sent for Then the Return of the Proclamations to be reviewed and examined and if any Errors be therein new Proclamations are to be made in the next Shire only for the party to appear at a short day If they find no Errors in the Return then Judgment is to be pronounced and not before Thus it was in 21 R. 2. in Thomas Mortymors Case c. In 7 H. 4. in the Earl of Northumberlands Case But there needed no Articles to be drawn up Ex parte Dom. Regis out of the Impeachment of the Commons for the Suit is theirs and not the Kings Touching the Lord Treasurer First the Commons did swerve from the Ancient Course in this they delivered not their Accusation in writing he being absent Had it been in the open House an Impeachment by word of mouth had been sufficient and the Suit had been theirs but it being at a Committee how could the Lord Treasurer take notice of their Impeachment wherefore the Lords of necessity did draw up a Charge against him out of their Accusation and then it became the Kings Suit and they were abridged of their power to reply or demand Judgment Prout in Weston Gomeniz Case 1. R. 2. And Alice Peirce ibid. Neither was it now necessary for the Commons to be acquainted with the Delinquent's Answer or any of the Proceedings for that they neither demanded he might be put to his Answer before the Lords and them nor impeached by word in open House nor in Writing One of which is required in an Impeachment And the Lords they varied in this that they did mingle other Complaints with these of the Commons when each should have been apart of it self prout 43 E. 3. Sir Joh. at Lees Case Neither did the Lords anciently use to omit any part of the Commons Complaint and Accusation as they did the Imposition on the French-Wines And the Articles of the Charge they sent to the Lord Treasurer ought to have been examined ex parte Domini Regis prout in the former Precedents of 1 R. 2. The next Precedent is 7 R. 2. upon the Demand of the Commons against the Bishop of Norwich and others §. 5. Of Accusation by Complaint of private Persons I do not remember any Precedent of this manner of Accusation for publick Offences unless the Parties Complainant be particularly interessed therein yet I doubt not but such Complaints have been and may be received and the Parties proceeded against in Parliament or else that High Court should not have so much Authority to receive Information pro Domino Rege from private persons as the Inferiour Courts have But what hath been done shall appear I will omit all Complaints of particular wrongs evcept it be of Bribery Extortion or Oppression in Men of Authority Anno 43. E. 3. William Latimer exhibited his Petition in Parliament unto our Lord the King and to his Council shewing that he had the Wardship and Marriage of the Heir of Robert Latymer by mean Grant from the King and held the same until Monsieur John at Lee then Steward of the King's House sent a Serjeant at Arms to bring them to London and commanded him being come not to depart without his leave upon payment of 1000 l. and afterwards would not give him leave to depart until he had surrendred the Body of the said Heir and the King's Patent unto him the said Monsieur John at Lee and thereupon the said John was put to reason before the Lords c. no. 20 21. and also the said John was put to reason before them for this When he was Steward of the King's House he caused divers to be attached by their Bodies some by Serjeants at Arms and some otherwise as W. Latymer and others to be brought before the King's Council c. n. 22. and also for executing the Authority of Steward out of the Verge n. 23. and also for discharging out of Newgate by his own Authority and against the Judges Commandment Hugh Levenham an Approver who had appealed several men of Felonies c. n. 24. and also that he being sworn by the King's Councel did bargain with Nicholas Levayn for the Mannor of Cainham in Kent which the faid Nicholas claimed to hold during the Minority of John Staynton whereas the said John at Lee knew the same was never holden of the King in Chief of the Castle of Dover n. 25. These be the Particulars wherewith the said John at Lee was Charged It appeareth W. Latymer accused him at the first but not the rest and I imagine that the Commons accused him of the Second and other Particulars for that they are said somewhat generally and are offences against the Liberties of the Commons and also for that divers of the Commons were present at the hearing And for the Fourth and Fifth Particulars I conceive the King's Councel accused him thereof for that one is an Offence against the legal Proceedings of Justice which then was that of the Approver viz. He which accuseth any one of Felony c. should remain in Prison as well as the accused until Trial. Of later times the Accuser puts in Sureties to prosecute and the other Offence is a partiticular wrong done unto the King in his Revenues And had any private person accused him of this their Petitions would have been recorded as well as Latymer's But the Lords proceeded against him upon Latimer's Accusation and then upon the rest severally and they did not mingle one with another Anno 50 E. 3. The Commons accused and impeached W. Ellis n. 31. and afterwards John Botheil and W. Cooper exhibited their Bills against him to this effect To their Thrice Redoubted King and to his Sage Councel sheweth John Botheil of London That the Monday next after the Ascention in the Fortieth Year of our Lord the King that now is a Ship of Scotland in Pruse was chased by Tempest into Likebread whereof the Master's Name is Henry Luce Charged with divers Merchandizes c. and that the same day one William Savage Clerk and Servant to William Ellis by Command of the said William took of the said Ship for the Merchandizes not discharged there 17 Nobles and a Last of c. and because that W. Ellis knew that W. Cooper was to come to the Parliament and shew these and other Grievances in aid of the Merchants and also to shew how the great Prices of Herrings might be amended in aid of the whole Realm the said W. Ellis by false suggestion caused the said W. Cooper to be Arrested and put in Prison in
the Tower for three Weeks May it please you c. Here I observe that the Accusation of a private person ought to be legal and certain as that was This Accusation consists of two parts The unjust taking of 17 Nobles c. from the Merchant of Pruse and the Imprisonment of the Petitioner by false suggestion to the King Upon hearing of the Matter the Lords Ordered That as for the Complaint tovching the 17 Nobles it should be sent to the Kings-Bench to be tried there but the Lords themselves determined the Imprisonment upon the false suggestion to the King and awarded Ellis to prison to pay Fine and Ransom to the King and Dammages to the Accusers The Lords received the latter part of this Complaint for two Causes The one for the false Suggestion to the King limited by the Statute of 31 E. 3. to be punished by the Chancellor L. Treasurer and the Councel if he be untrue all which were present in the Parliament The other For a Scruple which might arise out of the Words of the Statute which provides for false Suggestions only to the King himself Whereas Ellis his false Suggestion was by a Letter written to one of the Kings Servants which being shewed to the King his Majesty caused the Petitioner to be imprisoned And this the Lords expounded to be in Ellis a Suggestion unto the King himself And had this Point been truly triable at the Common Law the Lords had referred it thither This is but my own Conceipt Anno 5 R. 2. Numb 4. Richard Clevedon Esquire by his Bill exhibited to the King in Parliament accuseth Sir William Cogan Knight Anno 5 R. 2. Numb 45. The Mayor Bayliffs and Commonalty of Cambridge were accused c. The next of this kind is a very slanderous Accusation of the Chancellor which I will briefly declare and the whole proceedings therein for that it differs in some points from the rest The Parliament of 7 R. 2. at Salisbury began the Friday after the Feast of St. Mark the Evangelist April 29. On the 24th-of May next John Cavendish Fishmonger complained in this Parliament First Before the Commons of England in that Assembly in presence of some Prelates and Temporal Lords and afterwards before all the Prelates and Temporal Lords in full Parliament In the beginning of this Complaint he desired the Lords for God's sake to grant sure and speedy protection for the safety of his Life and that he might have sufficient Surety of the Peace against those of whom he would complain and especially he demanded Surety of Monsieur Michael de la Poole Chancellor of England and accordingly the Chancellor did at the Commandment of the King find Sureties viz. Two Earls c. Then the Fishmonger rehearsed how that all the last Parliament which was held at Westminster at Allhallontide in the same year he did sue by his Bill to have restitution of certain Merchandizes of great value from Geo. Mansfield and three others which was lost upon the Seas by them at such time as they had undertaken the Safeguard of the Seas and of the Merchandizes passing and coming in the mean time against all Enemies except Royal Power The which was endorsed saith he and committed to the Chancery to discuss and determine the Matters therein comprized according to Law and Reason Whereupon he dealt with one John Otrey a Clerk and Houshold-Servant to the said Chancellor for his Master's Favour and Furtherance in the Business The Clerk after he had viewed a Copy of the Bill and considered of the Business promised that for Forty Pounds to his Lord's use and Four Pounds to his own use he should have speed That he gave his Bond for 44 l. to be paid at a Day to come and afterwards delivcred unto the said Otrey certain Herrings and Sturgeon to the value of 9 or 10 Marks to the use of the said Chancellor in part and three yards of Scarlet which cost him 32 s. unto Otrey for his own use in part of the said 4 l. Notwithstanding all which he found no Favour from the Chancellor in his Suit but was delaied and still is and cannot have Justice therefore That the said Otrey told him that he could have had more Money of his Adversaries to have been against him which made him suspect the worst But said he whether the Chancellor shall be reputed privy to this God knoweth judge you My Lords for the Chancellor hath paid him for his Herrings and other Fish and sent him his Bond cancelled but whether he did it out of Conscience or to avoid Slander and Reproach he knew not Judge you My Lords but he was not paid for his three yards of Scarlet Unto this the Chancellor made his Answer not presently but at another time for the Record saith He Answered first before the Prelates and Lords and afterwards before the Lords and Commons whereas the Commons were present when the Complaint was made it being in pleno Parliamento And in the Judges Award to whom this Matter was afterwards referred it is said to be coram Magnatibus Communitat ' in Parliamento So that the Answer was made some other way First He protested his Innocency touching the Delay of Justice and shewed how the Delay was through the Difficulty of the Cause and vouched the Justices and the Serjeants who had often heard the Pleadings Touching the Bribery he swore by the Sacrament he had no knowledge thereof until upon Accompt with his Officers he found those Fishes not paid for and then he presently caused them to be paid for and the Bond cancelled and sent him He denied that his Clerk moved him in that Business all which he offered to prove in such manner as the King and the Lords should ordain and demanded Justice against the Fishmonger for the Slander Unto which the Fishmonger presently answered and said He did not accuse the Chancellor himself but his Clerk only The Lords examined the Fishmonger and the Clerk about the Bond and his Adversaries on their Allegiance whether they had given any thing or promised to give And finding tde Chancellor free from Bribery the Lords acquitted him of his Accusation aforesaid then at the Chancellor's Request the Fishmonger was committed until he found Sureties to appear de die in diem before the Lords and before any Judges who should be assigned The Lords committed the Clerk also and afterwards the Parliament growing to an end the Complaint was referred wholly to the Judges to hear and determine the same as well for the King as for the Parties Auxi avant come les Peres de Parliamento might have done if the Plaint had been fully treated in their presence and in the Parliament The Proceedings before the Judges were in a Schedule annexed to the Parliament-Roll and were thus A Commission was granted in Parliament unto Tressilian Chief Justice of the King's Bench and Bellknap Chief Justice of the Common Pleas to hear and determine
They met at Westminster June 19. and were assisted by the Lord Treasurer Lord Keeper Lord Privy Seal the Master of the Rolls and the King 's two Serjeants c. and they called the Fishmonger before them and cause to be recited the said Accusation and the Chancellor's Answer and then demanded of him what he could say why he should not undergo the Penalty of the Statute against such Scandals especially whenas the Chancellor hath acquitted himself in Parliament and is yet ready to acquit himself by any way possible The Fishmonger denied that he slandered the Chacellor but the Clerk only c. The Commissioners considering the Accusation and Answer in Parliament and especially that the Fishmonger said he could not have Justice in his Cause before the Chancellor the contrary whereof was expressed and proved out of the Records of the Chancery They adjudged him guilty of Defamation and to pay one hundred Marks to the Chancellor and to be imprisoned until he could pay the same and a competent Fine due to the King It should seem the Lords could find no time to examine the Injustice he complained of and therefore referred it to the Judges Anno 6. R. 2. Octab. Mich. Numb 59. Divers Bills were exhibited this Parliament by the Mayor Aldermen and Citizens of London concerning the Fishmongers and the said Mayor and Aldermen and Fishmongers were present at the reading thereof where Nicholas Exton who spake for the Fishmongers prayed the King to receive him and his Company into his Majesties protection Numb 59. which was granted Numb 60. Then one Walter Sybil a Fishmonger craved Audience and said These Bills were not exhibited for any good zeal to the Commonweal but for meer Malice to the Fishmongers for that the chief Exhibiters of these Bills being commanded to prison for sundry Misdemeanors in the time of E. 3. were then imprisoned by certain of the Fishmongers who then were chief Officers in London for which cause Malice was born at that time Numb 60. To that one John Moore a Mercer answered The Citizens of London went to keep the Peace towards them unless they went about to let into the said City the Rebels of Kent and Essex as the said Walter and others did Numb 60. The said Walter Sybill took advantage of those words and desired the Lords to bear witness John Moore thereupon expounded his words saying as the Report then went and prayed the Lords that the Truth thereof might be further enquired of in the City There is one only Precedent of a Complaint made by a private person in the House of Commons and of the Commons proceeding therein against a Lord of the Parliament which was thus Anno 15. H. 6. Tho. Philips exhibited unto the Commons his Bill of Complaint against John Bishop of London for his long Imprisonment upon suspition of Heresie The Commons sent up the Bill being written in Paper amongst other to the Lords without any Message for ought appeareth upon Record On Monday following the Bill was read and the Lords Excogitabant That it did not belong to their House de talibus frivolis rebus consultare and returned it to the Commons Hereupon the Commons sent to the Bishop for his Answer in writing unto this Complaint which yet the Bishop did forbear to do until he knew the Opinion of the Lords herein and acquainted their Lordships therewith The next day the Lords answered all with one voyce Quod non consentaneum fuit aliquem Procerum alicui in eo loco responsurum Lunae 2. Martii In the Parliament begun at Westminster An. 16. Jac. Sir John Bowser Knight complained of the Bishop of Lincoln the then Lord Keeper but he was not compellable to answer before the Commons 10 R. 2. The Commons accused de la Poole openly in Parliament before the King and Lords unto which the Councellors made a good Answer in the Opinion of this Age yet upon the many Replications of the Commons and the enforcement of his Oath strictly against him he was Fined and Imprisoned c. In this Parliament also the Lords and Commons procured Commission unto certain of the Lords to enquire of the Enormities of the Realm and to redress them The King was so highly displeased with these Proceedings that on the last day of this Parliament being the 25th of November he himself protested that nothing done therein should turn to the Prejudice of him or his Crown Afterwards he sought all means to overthrow those Lords who procured that Commission viz. the Duke of Gloucester the Earls of Danby Arundel Warwick and Earl Marshal And at a Consultation thereupon he sent for the Chief Justice Tressilian and some other Judges and his Serjeants at Law unto Nottingham where on August 25. Anno 11. he propounded certain Questions containing all the points of Advantage against the Proceedings of the last Parliament which the Judges affirmed to be Treason under their Hands and Seals Then the King thought to proceed judicially against those Lords but they kept together with the Duke of Gloucester at Heringby with a strong Guard And the King sent for them and all doubts of danger to their Persons being first removed they came Novemb. 3. Anno 11. and kneeling before the King's Majesty he demanded why they were Assembled at Heringby-Park in warlike manner They answered for the good of the King and Kingdom and to remove certain Traytors from about him meaning the Lord of Ireland the Archbishop of York Michael de la Poole Sir Robert Tresilian and Sir Nich. Brembre And with that they threw down their Gloves and Gages of the Challenging to prove the same Unto which the King replied This shall not be done so but at the next Parliament which shall be the Morrow after Candlemas Day and then all parties shall receive according as they deserve In the mean time he conveys away the parties accused and acquits them by Proclamation then summoned a Parliament at Westminster Crast. Purificat 11 R. 2. Where these few Lords Appellants came well Armed which made the King unwilling to come amongst them yet at last he came Haec ex Ep. fol. 603. On the first Day of this Parliament the Duke of Gloucester one of the said Appellants kneeling before the King shewed That whereas he understood his Majesty was informed that he intended the Deposing of him and Advancing himself to the Crown he was ready to declare his Innocency herein in such sort as the Lords would ordain Whereupon the King answered He held him thereof acquitted On the second Day of this Parliament the said Appellants exhibited their Petition to the King concerning several Articles against divers Lords and Commons whom they appealed of Treason The said Articles being read in presence of the King and Lords in Parliament the said Appellants offering to make Proofs thereof required that the said Appellees might be called to Answer and for default of their Appearance demanded Judgment against them Hereupon
said Mortymer having notice thereof withdrew himself among the wild Irish where the same Serjeant nor any other Officer of the King 's durst come for fear of Death Wherefore and for that his Offences are notoriously known both to the Lords and them they prayed Judgment c. The King the Lords and the Procurators of the Clergy considered of the Request of the Commons with good deliberation and then the Lords with the said Procurators by the assent of the King and Commons did award that Proclamation should be made through England and Ireland commanding the said Tho. Mortymer to render himself in proper Person to the King in what place soever it shall be in England within three Months after the 23th Day of December next coming to be at his Answer and they farther awarded That if he came not c. that then he shall be judged Traytor and Convict of of all Treasons whereof he is accused and shall forfeit c. Then the King adjourned the Parliament and the Appellants to the 15th of Hilary next at Shrewsbury on which Day the said Appellants declared to the King That it was awarded that Proclamation should be made c. ut supra The Commons did the like And for that the said Tho. Mortymer came not they had judgment In 7 H. 4. The Lords agreed this Judgment against the E. of North. and the Lord Bardolph who were fled to the Rebels in Wales and Proclamation ut supra throughout England At the day prefixed they examined the Returns of the Proclamations in the presence of the Commons and so the Judgment was agreed on in their presence also and so it ought to be in all Cases of Life and Death And finding a small Error they awarded new Proclamations in London only and the Return thereof was again viewed and considered in the presence of the Commons and then on the next day Judgment was given Eodem Anno 21 R. 2. The Lords Appellants accused also the Duke of Gloucester of Treason and although they knew he was dead they prayed the King that he might be brought to his Answer Whereupon the King sent his Writ to the Council of Calice unto whose Custody he committed the said Duke to bring him into the Parliament to his Answer The Captain returned his Writ That the Duke is dead the which Writ and Return being read the said Appellants prayed Judgment and the Commons shewed That the Dukes Levying War against the King's Person is notoriously known to all the States of Parliament and therefore they desired Judgment also and had it And what may not the whole Parliament do when they joyn in one Yet notwithstanding the King fearing some Error as it seems the Lords Appellants besought the King that if there were any thing on Record be it by Confession or otherwise which concerned their Appeal that it might be openly known and shewn in full Parliament Whereupon by the King's Commandment was read a Commission granted unto William Richal Justice of the Common-Pleas and a Confession of the Duke of Gloucester made before him by vertue of the said Commission yea and Richal himself being commanded did justifie that the Duke did write the Confession with his own hand in his absence and afterwards read it unto him so careful they were to have something to supply an Answer I marvel that Richal was acquitted of his Proceedings herein at the next Parliament of 1 H. 4. where he affirmed that much of this Dukes Confession was altered after he had returned his Commission He well deserved to die in that he spake not of it Yet there is one Precedent directly contrary to all this viz. 11 R. 2. in that Appeal which happened on this occasion The aforenamed Duke of Gloucester and four other Lords went to the King and accused the Duke of Ireland the Archbishop of York Michael de la Poole and others of Treason the King adjourned them to the next Parliament promising them Justice there and in the mean time conveyed away the Parties accused and then by Proclamation Part 8. fol. 603. in the next Parliament 11 R. 2. the Articles of the Appeal being read the Duke and other Appellants offered to make proof thereof and required that the Parties appealed might be brought to their Answers and for default of Appearance demanded Judgment Whereupon the King did deliberate with the Lords and commanded the Justices and other Sages of the Law to give their best Counsel to the Lords how to proceed rightly in this Matter of Appeal who after Consultation therein had answered the Lords That they had seen and considered the Tenor of this Appeal which they said was in no point made and declared according to the Order of the Common or Civil Law But they gave no Answer touching the Demand of Judgment for default of Appearance whereupon the Lords deliberated and after by the Lords assent declared that this Cause committed by the Peers against the Person of the King and State of the Realm shall be determined in the Parliament only and by no other Law than by the Law and Course of the Parliament And that it belongs to the Lords only to judge in such Cases And with the assent of the King they did judge the same Appeal and the Process thereupon depending to be good according to the Law and Course of Parliament Then the Lords Appellants proceeded and desired to have the fault of Appearance recorded and Judgment given and so it was So likewise 21 R. 2. After the King had given the full power of Parliament to determine all Matters begun into the Hands of twelve Lords or six and six Commoners or any three He adjourned the Parliament from Westminster to Shrewsbury in 15 Hil. and there on March 22. It was shewed to the King how that Robert Possington was impeached at the Parliament at Westminster for being with the Duke of Gloucester in levy at Herring An. 11 R. 2. For which the said Duke was adjudged as Traytor and therefore they brought the King to ordain the like Judgment against Robert Possington though he was dead Whereupon our Lord the King by the assent of the Lords and Knights of Counties having power c. awarded the said Robert guilty c. And that he shall forfeit c. But these extraordinary Precedents cannot lead us into the ordinary course of Proceedings and I alledge them only so as their Errors may be avoided § To conclude it is the just and constant Course of Parliament to bring the Party accused to his Answer yea though he fly Justice yet to send out Proclamations into the Countries that he appear at a Day or else such and such Judgments shall be given against him I confess this Course was omitted in the Judgment against Mompesson 18 Jac. and haply it was not then thought upon the Judicature of Parliament being so long out of use and therefore that cannot be alledged as a leading Precedent And in
that Judgment 21 H. 6. against Sir Jo. Mortymer upon an Indictment of Escape out of Prison being committed upon suspition of Treason the said Mortymer's Answer is not recorded yet it is said he was brought before the Lords and the said Indictment read in his presence that he made an Answer unto it though not mentioned And this proves that the Party is to be brought to his Answer else Mortymer's presence had not been necessary Anno 7 R. 2. Numb 2. The Duke of Lancaster and Gloucester complained to the King That Sir Tho. Talbot with others conspired the Death of the said two Dukes and prayed the Parliament to judge thereof The Fact is judged High Treason and Writs sent to divers Sheriffs to apprehend him which Writs were retornable into the King's-Bench And upon Proclamation made in Westminster-Hall That upon the Sheriffs Return and the not-Appearance of the said Thomas he should be convicted of Treason and forfeit c. This was extraordinary in terrorem But what may not the whole Parliament do They may alter Law much easier than Form In the Answer is to be considered First In what Causes the Party is to answer as a Prisoner and in what as a Freeman Secondly When Councel shall be allowed him and when not Touching the First The Parliament hath guided their Proccedings therein secundum Legem terrae Judicium Parium According to the 2th Chapter of Magna Charta Nullus liber homo capietur vel imprisonetur c. nisi per legale judicium Parium suorum vel per legem Terrae And therefore in Causes Capital whether the Party accused be a Lord of the Parliament or a Commoner he is brought a Prisoner to his Answer secundum legem terrae prout 4 E. 3. Numb 1. c. The Lord Berkley accused by the King for Murder of E. 2. Anno 1 R. 1. Jo. Lo. Gomeniz and W. Weston Upon the Demand of the Commons for surrendring Forts beyond the Seas An. 4. R. 2. Sir Ra. Ferrers Knight was apprehended for suspition of Treason Anno 28 H. 6. Although the Lords refused to commit the Duke of Suffolk upon the Commons complaint of him of a common Fame of Treason yet when they accused him of particular Treason he was Committed and brought Prisoner to his Answer But in Cases of Misdemeanors it is otherwise then the Party accused whether Lord or Commoner answers as a Freeman The Lord within his Place the Commoner at the Bar and they are not committed till Judgment unless upon the Answer of a Commoner the Lords find cause to commit him till he find Sureties to attend c. lest he should fly prout Jo. Cavendish upon the Lord Chancellor's Demand of Justice against him for his false Accusation was Committed after his Answer until he put in Bail Anno 7 R. 2. And before Judgment And so Michael de la Poole the said Chancellor 10 R. 2. after his Answer and many Replies of the Commons was Committed and presently Bayled Anno 50 E. 3. William Lord Latymer and John Lord Nevill being impeached by the Commons answered in their Place so did the Bishop of Norwich and the Lord Chancellor 7 R. 2. And the said Lord Chancellor too 10 R. 2. answered in his Place though afterwards he was committed before Judgment upon Request of the Commons The Bishop of Bristol 1 Jac. and the Duke of Buck. 1 Car. 1. All these answered as Freemen in their Places their Offences not being Capital And the like Precedents there are of Commoners Anno 50 E. 3. Richard Lyons William Ellis and John Beecher did answer as Freemen being impeached by the Commons And whereas the Commons did that year also accuse Adam de Bury who was absent the Lords sent for him to come but he contemned their Authority and came not Then the Lords as it seemeth by the Record sent to apprehend him and he could not be found wherefore they awarded that all his Goods should be put in Arrest Ibid. N. 17. It is briefly entred Adam was sent unto to come and answer in Parliament he came not nor could be found Wherefore it was awarded c. Which is sufficient to prove A Commoner is not to be brought a Prisoner to his Answer for a Misdemeanor if he will appear 5 R. 2. The Mayor and Bayliffs by name and the Townsmen of Cambridge were complained of in Parliament for many Outrages against the Scholars there and the Lords sent one Writ to the Mayor and Bayliffs that then were and to the Commonalty to appear and answer and another Writ to the Mayor and Bayliffs that did the Outrage and they appeared in person and the Commonalty by their Attorney This was the Ancient Course Yet even in these Days viz. 15 R. 2. the Peer of Holland complained of a great Riot committed by Henry Tibb and divers others in the Parsonage-House of one Williams Whereupon a Sergeant at Arms by vertue of a Commission to him made brought up the said Tibb and one more only the principal doers therein before the Lords in Parliament who upon the Return of the Examination confessed nhe whole Matter and were committed But I suppose the Sergeant at Arms was sent for haply they would have obeyed no Writ and yet he was sent for two of the principal Offenders only At this Day if the Commons accuse a Commoner of Misdemeanors in such a state of Liberty or restraint as he is in when the Commons complain of him in such he is to answer prout 18 Jac. Sir Francis Michell and Sir John Bennet were both committed by the Commons before their complaint to the Lords and so they answered as Prisoners But that in a sort may be called Judicium Parium suorum 18 Jac. The Earl of Middlesex being then Lord Treasurer and accused of Misdemeanors only absented himself from the House His Charge was sent to him in writing and he answered in writing At the Day prefixed for his Trial he was summoned by the great Usher to appear He came without his Staff and kneeled until the Lord Keeper willed him to stand up There he protested That he ought not to answer in that Place and desired others might not be prejudiced thereby And I hope they will not The Earl did himself the first wrong by absenting himself from the House for he might have stayed there until Judgment unless when his own Cause came in agitation §. 2. Touching Councel In all Causes of Felony Treason c. Councel antiently was denied to the Party accused prout Anno 4. R. 2. Numb 21. Sir Ralph Ferrers was brought to the Parliament under the Guard of the Marshal of England and arraigned at the King's behalf for suspition of Treason who prayed to the King and to the Lords to have Councel in that Case Unto whom it was said That in all Matters wherein Councel ought to be granted by the Law of the Land the King or Lords would allow it And it was further
of Men at Arms and Archers for which he accorded with the King and those he carried with him were not sufficient come Garcone autres lieux And yet he received full payment in deceit of the King and that by his default many Forts were lost in Britayn And also at his passing at Southampton his Men did much Mischief to the Country as if they had been Enemies To the First Touching the Buying of a Debt due by the King to the Lady Ravensholme he made a very good Answer and denied that he bought any Debt of Reignald Love for gain And the Commons being present desired that Love might be examined therein and he was examined and cleared the Lord Nevil thereof And thereupon Michael de la Poole and W. de Winged being present did expresly affirm That the said Love had acknowledged before him and many others the Day before That the said Lord Nevile had bought the said Debt for gain c. And the said Reignald Love replying to their Affirmation said That he never spake any such Words to them or any other Et tant est autres apres c. And soon after the said Knights and Commons affirming that the said Reignald did not only speak those Words but also prayed that it might be shewed in open Parliament the said Reignald confessed That c. and was therefore Committed c. Touching the Second Point The L. Nevile shewed That he made full Muster of his Men c. Touching the Third The Pillaging of Souldiers he said That he did none and if any were done let the Malefactors answer And unto this it was said by the said Lords of the Parliament That it was reason sith the King paid the Soldiers their Wages that the Souldiers should answer for their ill Deeds and the Captains should answer for themselves And thereupon the Commons prayed Judgment against the Lord Nevile and that he might be put out of his Office about the King Touching the Articles of the Lady Ravesholm It was awarded in Parliament That the Lord Nevile should make Restitution unto her Executors Quaere hoc That he be banished according to the quality of his Offence as others have been c. I have translated this of the Lord Nevil almost ad verbum it needs no Exposition The Commons were present at the L. Nevil's Answer and desired that one Witness whom he had brought with him and who gave them Information of the Complaint touching the buying of the King's Debts might be examined And examined he was in the presence of two Knights of the Parliament and they did contrary his false Answer and afterwards all the Commons came and testified against the Witness This is sufficient to prove That the Commons may Reply and are to be present at the Answer or have a Copy thereof sent them But the Commons did not Reply unto the Lord Nevil's Answer Touching the Pillaging of his Souldiers for ought appears the Lords Replied to that part Primo Car. 1. 6 Febr. The Commons impeached the Duke of Bucks and Declared against him in writing The Commons demanded a Copy of his Answer that they might Reply unto it and it was debated at a Committe whether the Commons might Reply or no which was resolved in the Affirmative upon view of Precedents and reported to the House and then a Copy was sent to the Commons Thus much touching Replication by the Commons Where the Articles against the Delinquents are ex parte Dom. Regis there the Commons cannot Reply nor Demand Judgment for the Suit is the King 's and not theirs Anno 10. R. 2. Upon Complaint of the Commons Jo. Lord Comeniz and W. Weston were put to their Answers but the Articles were exhibited de part le Roy. The Complaint of the Commons was general and though the Commons be there present at their Answer and Judgment yet they did neither Reply nor Demand Judgment The King's Steward before whom they were Arraigned Replied as shall appear by the Precedent at large In like manner the Commons demanded that the Bishop of Norwich and others might be put to their Answer and the Articles were drawn de part le Roy. And the Chancellor replied to their Answer the Commons not once interposing therein 5 R. 2. The Chancellor and Scholars of Cambridge accuse the Mayor Bayliffs and Commonalty of Cambridge of many Outrages and Misdemeanors They appeared and answered The King's Councel replied Numb 49. CHAP. IV. The next Considerable Part in Judicature after the Answer and Replication is the Proof by Examination First Of Witnesses THe Practice at this Day is to swear the Witnesses in open House and then to examine them there or at a Committee either upon Interrogatories agreed upon in the House or such as the Committee in their discretion shall demand Thus it was in Ancient Times as shall appear by the Precedents so many as they are They being very sparing to Record those Ceremonies which I shall briefly recite and then add those of later times Witnesses produced by the Commons Anno 15 R. 2. The Lord Latymer having answered to one of the Commons Complaints touching a Loan of 20000 Marks for 30000 Marks to be repaid whereof he said he was innocent It followeth thus immediately c. And thereupon it was certified in Parliament by Monsieur Rich. le Scroop the late Lord Treasurer to our Lord the King and by W. Wallworth of London That when the said Loan was made the said Walworth offered in the Name of the Staplers to lend the same and be repaid without Usury out of the Customs of Wool to Calice Whereto the Lord Latymer answered He never heard of that Proffer and others swore the said William Walworth did make the said Proffer to them Anno 15 R. 2. The Commons produced four Witnesses to prove their Complaints against Ellis Les queux Examinees in Parlement said c. And there I observe that two of those Witnesses had exhibited a particular Complaint against Ellis concerning a particular wrong done unto Merchants whereof the Commons complained and Ellis took no exception against them And afterwards being put to his Answer upon their particular Complaints for wrong Imprisonment c. Ellis said That they betrayed him as he was coming to London and so he caused them to be committed and the said Complainants affirmed the contrary upon Oath and it was testified expresly by divers sufficient men That c. agreeing with their Oath Eodem Anno John Peecher being accused for Extortion affirmed he retained it by the assent of the Mayor Recorder and of the greater part of the Aldermen and being examined in Parliament affirmed there That c. to the contrary and then Judgment was given Eodem Anno The Commons accuse Jo. Lord Nevil for buying the King's Debts of Reignald Love which the said Lord denied and the Commons desired that the said Reignald might be examined And the said Reignald being charged upon his Allegiance to
tell openly before them the full Truth saith clearing the Lord Nevil but afterwards he confessed against him He was examined in presence of two of the House of Commons Many Complaints were made against Richard Love and William Ellis in the Parliament and a Commission sent to enquire of the behaving themselves in their Offices 1 R. 2. Alice Peirce Not Guilty and that she would prove by Testimony of the late King's Houshold whom she named The Offence being for procuring E. 3. privately to revoke an Ordination of his Councel The Lords gave her Day and in the mean time named a Committee to examine Witnesses The Committee were the Duke of Lancaster Earls of Arundel Cambridge Northampton and of March And divers Witnesses who are named were sworn upon the Holy Evangelists and diligently examined upon the Articles objected against her The Lord Beauchamp was sworn and examined and the Duke of Lancaster being one of the Committe was diligently examined before the rest of the said Committee but not sworn ad testificandum Earls and Dukes are not sworn A Jury of the Houshold was impannelled for her Trial before the said Committee The Order made by the Lords for the Examination and Trial. Per l'assent Prelat des Seigneurs du dit Parlement ordeint fuit que testes Articles serounttrious per testimonies per enquest d'eux que seront de Hostel de dit Appeale que le verite purroit mieux estre conus By vertue of this Order the said Committee did take the Examination of the Witnesses and after their Examinations it follows thus Et nient minus seroit venire devant le Duc les dits Commissionaries Monsieur K. B. c. And so names eight Knights and nine Esquires queux fuerint jures adire le verite si le dit Alice fuit culpable de les Articles avant dits ou nemy Note This is the only Jury I find Recorded for Misdemeanors in Parliament I make no doubt but if the Delinquent doth put himself upon the Trial of his Country That a Jury ought to be impannelled therefore But if the Commons impeach any man they are in loco proprio and there no Jury ought to be only Witnesses are to be examined in their Presence or they to have Copies thereof And the Judgment not to be given until the Commons demand it For Proof that the Witnesses ought to be examined in their Presence vide 50 E. 3. The Impeachment of the Lord Nevile where Richard Love was examin'd in presence of two Knights of the House of Commons who contraried his Testimony Numb 44. The Proof that a Delinquent may put himself super Patriam vide 4 E. 3. Where the Lord Berkley who waved his Peerage was tried by a Jury of Gloucestershire and Warwickshire for that he was Arraigned for the Murder of E. 2. at Berkley-Castle in Com. Glouc. And he answered That he was sick at that time at Bewdley in Com. Wigorn. But he was Arraigned upon an Information ex parte Dom. Regis and not upon the Impeachment of the Commons for then they had been Patria sua And as the Party may put himself super Patriam so he may demand Battel But not when he is accused ex parte Domini Regis prout Clarence Anno 18 E. 4. Nor when he is accused by the Commons prout Brembre 11 R. 2. When the Earl of Arundel was brought to answer the Appeals the Lords Appellants threw down their Gloves by way of a Challenge The Earl answered Si essem liber non resurgeram Note That the Commons had accused them also Vide a Herald Parl. lib. Mayleress And thereupon it was testified openly in Parliament That our Lord the King had expresly said that day before the same Lord then present in Parliament That he knew not how nor in what manner the said Richard was come into such an Office about him and which is more he did not know him to be his Officer Anno 21 R. 2. The Lord Cobham being brought to his Answer for procuring a Commission to himself and others in derogation of the King's Prerogative 11 R. 2. and for executing the said Commission He denied the procuring thereof and that he would not have used the said Commission without the King's Commandment and that he told the King so much and that the King commanded him not to intermeddle therein Whereunto our Lord the King answered and said That he was in such Governance at that time that he could not otherwise say because of them that were then about him And that the Lord Cobham knew well that the said Commission was made at his Will The which thing Jo. de Cobham did not gainsay at his Trial and so Judgment passed on him for the same and he adjudged a Traytor Et qui non vult Anno 18 E. 4. George Duke of Clarence was Arraigned in Full Parliament There is no mention thereof in the Roll but in a Manuscript of that time written by a Frier of Croyland Tam testis est vera disceptatio ea habita inter duos tantae humanitatis Germanos Nam nemo arguit contra Ducem nisi Rex nemo respondet Regi nisi Dux Introducti autem erant nonnulli de quibus à multis valde dubitatur an Accusatorum an Testium officiis sunt functi utraque enim officia in eadem causa eisdem personis non congruunt Delevit enim object a Dux ille per Justificationem asseruit si exaudiri possit manuali defensione teneri causam suam Quid multis numeror Parliament les reputantes audit as Informationes sufficere formarunt in eam sententiam damnationis quae ab Henrico Duce Buck. pro tempore noviter creato Anglorum Seneschallo prolata est postea dilata est executio quo ad usque Prolocutor Communitatis in superiorem Cameram cum sociis suis adveniens novam ejus conficiendae rei requisitionem fecerat consequenter infra paucos dies factum est id qualecunque genus Supplicii secreti infra Turrim London utinam sine malo Anno Dom. 1418. Regni vero Regis E. 4. 18. per Anonimum libris Cotton Here let us examine for what illegal proceedings the Commons desired to have the Cause tried again The Author saith Nemo arguit contra Ducem nisi Rex This the Commons held to be against Law That the King himself should enforce either Article or Testimony against a Delinquent in a Capital Cause For it is inconvenient That he who hath the Forfeiture of Life Lands and Goods shall be Accuser Witness or Judge The Commons were present at this Trial and considering the Inconveniences thereof they returned and made the Request ut supra Primo Car. 1. In the Parliament of 6 Febr. John Earl of Bristol was accused by the King's Attorney of Treason beyond the Seas 8 May 1626. The said Earl petitioned the Lords That seeing several points of that Charge are grounded upon private
have cognizance what was done touching the said Rebellions of Salop and elsewhere-within the Realm whereupon New Proclamations were made and the subsequent proceedings were done in full Parliament in presence of the Commons and the Record saith upon the Request of the Commons A Question hath been often asked Whether the Commons did heretofore sit at Conference with the Lords Which I cannot very well resolve but verily believe That at all these Arraignments the Commons did sit with the Lords 10 R. 2. Gomeniz and Weston were brought before the Lords and Commons sitting in the White Chamber The Words are Devant les Seignieurs avant dits en plein Parlement c. But the Commons are here intended by the Words en plein Parlement And so was the Commons Demand that they may be tried before the Lords No other Records speak whether they did sit or stand In Judgments on Misdemeanors The Presence of the Commons is not necessary unless they impeach a Delinquent prout 50 E. 3. And then they were present at all the Answers of those whom they Impeached and demanded Judgment And when the Lords had rendred their Judgment against the Lord Latimer to be prisoner with the Marshal and to make Fine and Ransom to the King the Commons prayed the King he might also be put out of all his Offices and especially from being Privy Councellor Which the King granted And when the Lords had determined one part of the Complaint of the Commons against William Ellis touching a wrong done to certain Scottish Merchants the Commons prayed a general Enquiry might be made of the Residue whereof they complained which the Lords granted And when the Lord Nevil Answered They required that one Richard Love might be examined to prove that which the said Lord denied and they departed but two of the Commons remained and heard the Examination and told the Lords That the said Richard had related it to the Commons otherwise the day before which the said Richard denied Then all the Commons came and justified it again and thereupon the said Richard Love confessed it and on their Demands was committed This shews what Interest they have in their own Impeachments So in 10 R. 2. When the Commons had Impeached the Lord Chancellor They were present at his Answer and so often Replied and enforced his Oath against him and required him to be Committed and so he was before Judgment but Bayled presently But if the Commons do only complain and do neither impeach the Party in Writing nor by word of Mouth in open House nor demand Trial to be in their Presence In these Cases it is in the Election of the Lords whether the Commons shall be present or not And therefore when they complained of Alice Peirce 10 R. 2. The Lords deferred her Trial until the Departure of the Parliament that is till the Commons had leave to depart And if the Commons presence be not necessary in such Cases where they complain much less is it wherein they complain not yet they have been present when they did not complain but that was upon an extraordinary Cause prout 7 R. 2. A Fishmonger exhibited his Complaint first to the Commons against the Lord Chancellor and afterwards to the Lords in Full Parliament in presence of the Commons But they were present no doubt at the Lord Chancellor's Request That he might clear himself in Publick of the Slander and so he did The Presence of the Judges In Cases Capital the Judges are to be present also otherwise it is not a Full Court but they have no Voyce And though there be divers Precedents that complain of the Prelates prout 21 R. 2. 2 H. 5. and this last of the Commons yet there is not one Precedent that finds fault with their Absence in these Cases for they are not tractare cum caeteris Magnatibus but cum caeteris de Concilio Here may be Objected that which Tresilian and other Judges answered to one of the King's Questions 11 R. 2. touching the Judgment of Michael de la Poole That the same Justices and Serjeants would not give the same Judgment because it seemeth to them that the same is irrevocable as erroneous to every part Vid. Print Stat. 21 R. 2. Tresilian was much mistaken as much as in the other Answers whereby he determined that to be Treason and so here he gave his Advice not his Consent And yet he saith he gave his Consent Read but a little further and you shall find in the very same place as followeth Which Questions and Answers as well before the King as before the Lords and Commons were read and perceived and it was demanded of all the States of Parliament how they thought of the Answer And they said They thought the Justices made and gave the Answers duly and lawfully as good and liege People of the King ought to do And in the same manner Sir Tho. of Shelton Learned in the Law and Will. Hawkford and Will. Beechley the King's Serjeants being demanded by the King of their Advice c. and my Lord Will. Thurning of the Common Pleas c. That the Declaration of Treason not declared belongeth to the Parliament And if he had been demanded he would have said in the same manner And in like manner my Lord William Rickill Justice of the Common Bench and after the coming of my Lord William Clopton Chief Justice he said thus Wherefore the said Answers be judged good and affirmed sufficient in the said Parliament Whereupon the King by the Assent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Procurators of the Clergy and the said Commons and by the Advice of the said Justices and Serjeants there being It was Awarded and Adjudged c. Here you see the Manner of the Judges Assent viz. their Advice only Nor shall you find their Assents to any Statute yet the Judges have ever used to be present at the Trials in Parliament upon Life and Death 5 H. 4. The King delivered the Earl of Northumberland's Petition to them And at the Trial of any Peer out of Parliament the Judges are ever present on that Day and their presence is necessary for their Counsel to the Lords but their Assent is not necessary to the Judgment §. The Manner how the Lords resolve on their Judgment How this was Anciently appears in the Appeals 21 R. 2. Touching the Death of Simon Burley viz. It was demanded of every Lord who was present at the said Parliament his Advice of the said Simon touching his Crime Eodem Anno in the Print Stat. 21 R. 2. The Judges Opinions were demanded in the same manner beginning with the Serjeants c. and so ascending to the Chief Justice And at this Day the Question is put by the Chancellor or Lord Keeper and the puisne Baron answers first Content or not Content and so the Lords in Order But their Lordships do first debate the Judgment amongst themselves and the
Question is out of that which seemeth to be most generally agreed on In the Judgment it self is to be considered First Whether it be ultra Legem Secondly By whom to be Demanded Thirdly By whom to be Rendred Touching the First Judgments in Parliament for Death have been strictly guided per Legem Terrae otherwise they would not have judged the Earl of Kent the King 's own Unkle to be Hanged Drawn and Beheaded might it be left to their Discretion Vide Literas E. 3. to the Pope speaking of this Earls Judgment by the Parliament for Treason Cui Sententiae subductis tamen quibusdam opprobriosis in detestatione tanti Sceleris de Rigore Legis nostri Regni infligenda erat Dolentes acquievimus 4 E. 6. But the Roll is lost The Lords judged Mortimer to be Drawn and Hanged as a Traytor 4 E. 3. Simile pro Simone de Bereford N. 2. Ibidem Numb 3. They judged John Matrevers to be Drawn Hanged and Beheaded 10 R. 2. Weston adjudged a Traytor for delivering up of Castles Forts c. And so Jo. Lord Gomeniz a German was adjudged to die but because he was an Alien and a Baronet and was not the King's Liege-man he should be Beheaded That being the Death used in Germany to Gentlemen 10 R. 2. Simon de Burley the Earl of Arundel and others were Adjudged to be Hang'd Drawn and Beheaded for Treason They differ something yet herein they agree That the opprobrious Death of a Traytor is to be Drawn and Hang'd which the Parliament could not alter no not in their Judgments against the King 's own Unkle It was per Legem Regni infligenda The King might pardon all and usually did except Beheading of the Nobility of his own Blood and of later Times to all Noblemen As the Parliament could not dispence with nor omit any part of the Judgment on Traytors so they could not add more than the Law required And this may appear by their Judgments of Forfeitures of the Parties Estate The Parliament 4 E. 3. spoke nothing what Mortimer should forfeit to the King He well knew the Law could give the King all his Lands in Possession Reversion or Service Vide The Restitution of 28 E. 3. Numb 10. The Ordinances in 50 E. 3. Numb 45. against Women which shall make suit c. to the King against Alice Peirce by Name is Upon pain of as much as she can forfeit and to be banished But had it not been for the former Ordinance the Lords would not have given any such Judgment against her Her Offence being only for procuring Favour to her Friends from the late King contrary to a former Order of Council 11 21 R. 2. The Lords Adjudged the Forfeitures to the King of some Convicted on the Appeals greater than the Law will give but they passed Special Acts in each Parliament to Confirm both the Judgments and Forfeitures 1 H. 4. The Lords Adjudged and Declared the Earls of Kent Salisbury and others to be Traytors and to Forfeit Numb 30. as the Law of the Land willeth 7 H. 4. They Adjudged the Earl of Northumberland and Lord Bardolph to Forfeit for Treason all their Lands in their own Demesne or where others were seized to their Use. And so in Fines and Amerciaments the Judgments anciently were indefinite prout 42 E. 3. Numb 26. John at Lee is Committed to the Tower there to remain till he hath paid Fine and Ransom to the King and at the King's will and pleasure 50 E. 3. He is Awarded to Prison at the King's Will and to be put to his Fine and Ransom according to the quality of his Trespass who being brought before the Lords they told him his ill Deeds were so great that he had not wherewith to make satisfaction and he submitted to the King's Grace and the Lords Awarded all his Goods to be seized and his Body to be in Prison at the King 's Will. Eodem Anno The Lord Latimer to make Fine and Ransom at the King's Will Numb 28. Item William Ellis the like Num. 28. John Peecher the like Num. 33. Cavendish Awarded 7 R. 2. to pay Dammages to the Chancellor and to remain in Prison until c. and the King de Fine suo competenti sibi inde debito but not set down how much to the King These Fines were not put in certain for that the Law limits them to the King's Will But not doubt but after the Judgment the Lords did rate them as may be gathered out of Richard Lyons where after Judgment they called him before them to consider it seems at what Rate to Tax the same And they found it not sufficient And in Ancient Court-Barons the Amerciaments were ever offered after the Presentments In the Star-Chamber all Fines were usually mitigated after the Censure and that Court had Antiqua Vestigia Magni Consilii I hold that anciently the Fines were often Rated or Taxed And if the Lords may mitigate a Fine à Majore they may Tax it after the Judgment the Certainty not being then specified Judgments for Satisfaction In Complaints of Extortion and Oppression the Lords Awarded Satisfaction to the Parties wronged which sometimes was certain sometimes general but always secundum non ultra Legem 42 E. 3. Numb 18. Full Restitution was made unto William Latimer of the Wardship and Marriage of the Heir of Sir R. Latimer whereof he was outed by Duress by John at Lee. But this was done by a great Councel per Commandment du Roy after the Judgment William Ellis 50 E. 3. Awarded to pay to Botheil and Cooper 20 l. apiece for their Damages Num. 25. John Peecher Num. 23. Awarded que il face yeulx a les parties Compl. de lui pour les extortions issint prizes Jo. Nevile Num. 34. is Awarded to make Restitution to the Lady Ravensholme in Certainty for an Oppression done to her whereof the Commons complained 7 R. 2. The Parliament referred the base Accusation of Cavendish against the Lord Chancellor to be heard and determined by the Justices in such sort as if the Parliament had determined the same And the Justices adjudged him convict of Slander and that the Lord Chancellor should recover his Damages which they Taxed at 1000 Marks and that he be imprisoned until he had satisfied the Chancellor and the King pro Fine competenti sibi inde debito The Iudgment against Alice Peirce Anno 10 R. 2. was That if she had purchased any Lands by Force or Duress soit il pur Fine or Deed en pais or Deed enrolled or otherwise that her Purchase be held for none and the parties who hold themselves aggriev'd have their Process against her in Chancery By Advice of the Grand Councel Let Right be done to the Parties and Restitution made according as the Case requireth so as the Purchase made bona fide be not undone or annulled any way References to the Common Law Nor could the Lords judge any Complaint of
private persons where the party might have his Remedy at the Common Law prout Botheil Cooper Anno 50 E. 3. accused William Ellis for extorting 17 Nobles from certain Merchants at Pruse and also for their wrong Imprisonment by the false Suggestion of William Ellis to the King And the Lords referred the taking of the 17 Nobles to the Common Law But upon the Examination of the Imprisonment it was proved That Ellis did write his Letters to one of the King's Bed-Chamber falsly suggesting against Botheil and Cooper which Letters were shewn to the King his Majesty then commanded them to be Committed This the Lords expounded to be false Suggestion in Ellis The King himself judged him for the same Had that Point been cleared in the Statute of False Suggestions haply the Lords would have referred it to its proper place So also Anno 5. E. 2. The Lords referred the Accusation of Clingdon to be Tried at the Common Law Secondly Touching the Demand That verily belongs to the Party at whose Suit it is To the King's Councel for the King if the Articles were de part le Roy and to the Commons against an Impeached Delinquent By whom Judgment ought to be Rendred It appeareth plainly by many Precedents That all Iudgments for Life and Death are to be rendred by the Steward of England or by the Steward of the King's House and this is the Reason why at every Parliament the King makes a Lord Steward of his House though he hath none out of Parliament And at such Arraignment the Steward is to sit in the Chancellor's place And all Judgments for Misdemeanors by the Chancellor or by him who supplies the Chancellor's place CHAP. VI. The Precedents for Life and Death ANno 10 R. 2. John Lord Gome 〈…〉 and William Weston were brought by the Constable of the Tower before the Lords in Full Parliament sitting in the White Chamber where they were severally Arraigned at the Commandment of the Lords by Richard le Scroop Chief Steward of the House of our Lord the King in manner following Here the Lords commanded the Arraignment of certain Earls Peers of the Realm They did not appoint the Steward to do it It belonged to his Office Anno 20 R. 2. Thomas Haxey was Arraigned of High Treason before the King the Lords and Commons in full Parliament in Alba Camera by the Duke of Lancaster Seneschallum Angliae and the Judgment rendred by him Anno 21 R. 2. All those Judgments on the Appeal were rendred per Seneschallum Angliae The Records of E. 3. and H. 4. are silent herein by whom the Judgment was rendred It may be Objected That Anno 5. H. 4. The Lord Chancellor kept his place at the Trial of the Earl of Northumberland because he did deliver the Opinion of the Lords That could not properly be called a Trial for it was upon the Earl's own Petition And if it were resolved whether it were Felony or Treason it should have been done by the Steward sitting in the Chancellor's place Neither doth it appear by the Record that the Chancellor kept his place though he afterwards delivered the Opinion of the Lords So likewise Anno 1 Car. 1. Febr. 6. The Lord Keeper kept his place when the Articles of Treason were read against the Earl of Bristol but he did not Arraign him Then they were read and his Answer heard by the appointment of the House and some Witnesses examined also to the end they might understand the true Nature of his Offence and then to declare how and in what manner to proceed against him for the same The Spiritualty did not deliver their Opinion therein To conclude All Records that are which mention by whom the Delinquents in Cases Capital were Arraigned do say that it was by the Steward of England or of the King's House And in remembrance of this a Lord Steward is appointed at every Trial of a Peer of Parliament Touching Judgment rendred by the Chancellor in Cases of Misdemeanors it is needless to recite any Precedents only this I will say The Chancellor never gave Judgment on Life and Death and the Steward never on Misdemeanors And though there be Precedents of Judgments given by the Steward of England in Parliament prout 20 21 R. 2. yet I have seen none of the Judgments on the Peers rendred by the Steward of the King's House And the reason may be for that there was anciently a Seneschallus Angliae Quaere tamen whether the Steward of the King's House being a Peer may give Judgment on a Peer or not I think he may if there be no Steward of the House constantly made every Parliament though but during the Sessions The last Considerable Thing in Judicature is CHAP. VII The Execution of the Judgment ANd first in Capital Offences I have seen but two Precedents thereof in the Parliament-Rolls The First is 4 E. 3. Which begun on Monday after the Feast of S. Katherine There were long Articles exhibited against Mortimer for Treason and he was adjudged to die for Treason and thereupon saith the Record Commandment was given to the Earl Marshal to Execute the Judgment and also to the Mayor Aldermen and Sheriffs of the City of London and to the Constable of the Tower and likewise to them who had the Guard of the said Mortimer to be aiding to the said Earl Marshal to do the said Execution The which Execution was done and performed upon Thursday next after the first Day of the Parliament which was the 29th Day of November Ibidem Num. 2. Judgment was given on Simon de Bereford to be Drawn and Hang'd And thereupon it was Commanded that the Marshal should do Execution near the Tower of London And the said Earl of Arundel was Beheaded ou the same Day The Earl of Nottingham one of the Lords Appellants was Lord Marshall at that time and therefore his Deputy did Execution Item The Earl of Warwick being adjudged to die the King did pardon the Execution and granted him his Life viz. That he should remain in perpetual prison out of England in the Isle of Man c. And that he be at Sea on his passage before the end of one Month. And thereupon he was delivered to Monsieur William le Scroope and to Monsieur Stephen his Brother to bring him safely to the said Isle of Man c. The Earl Marshal was Commanded to Execution on a Peer and the Marshal on a Commoner The Command no doubt issued from the Lords with the King's Assent herein Thus much touching Execution quoad Mortem In Misdemeanors the greatest Corporal punishment hath been Imprisonment I find no other in Ancient Parliament But who was the Officer to carry the Delinquent to prison is not Recorded save he to whose Custody he was Committed prout 42. E. 3. John at Lee was Committed to the Tower Et dit fuit al Monsieur Alley de Buxhill Constable de la Tower que il