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A30974 Discourse of the peerage & jurisdiction of the Lords spirituall in Parliament proving from the fundamental laws of the land, the testimony of the most renowned authors, and the practice of all ages : that have no right in claiming any jurisdiction in capital matters. Barlow, Thomas, 1607-1691. 1679 (1679) Wing B829; ESTC R4830 45,447 34

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licet_fw-la nobis_fw-la juxta_fw-la sacrorum_fw-la canonum_fw-la instituta_fw-la quomodolibet_fw-la interest_n non_fw-la intendimus_fw-la nec_fw-la volumus_fw-la sicuti_fw-la de_fw-la jure_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la nec_fw-la debemus_fw-la ad_fw-la haec_fw-la insuper_fw-la protestamur_fw-la &_o nostrum_fw-la quilibet_fw-la protestatur_fw-la quod_fw-la propter_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la absentiam_fw-la non_fw-la intendimus_fw-la nec_fw-la volumus_fw-la nec_fw-la nostrum_fw-la aliquis_fw-la intendit_fw-la nec_fw-la vult_fw-la quod_fw-la processus_fw-la habiti_fw-la &_o habendi_fw-la in_o predict_v '_o parliamento_fw-la super_fw-la materiis_fw-la aut_fw-la edictis_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la nec_fw-la debemus_fw-la ut_fw-la praemittitur_fw-la interest_n quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o nostrum_fw-la quemlibet_fw-la attinet_fw-la futuris_fw-la temporibus_fw-la quomodolibet_fw-la impagnentur_fw-la infirmentur_fw-la seu_fw-la etiam_fw-la renoventur_fw-la this_o be_v 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