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A85817 A speech made by Alderman Garroway, at a common-hall, on Tuesday the 17. of January. Vpon occasion of a speech delivered there the Friday before, by M. Pym, at the reading of His Majesties answer to the late petition. Wjth [sic] a letter from a scholler in Oxfordshire, to his vnkle a merchant in Broad-street, upon occassion of a book intituled, A moderate and most proper reply to a declaration, printed and published under His Majesties name, Decemb. 8. intended against an ordinance of Parliament for assessing, &c. Sent to the presse by the merchant, who confesseth himselfe converted by it. Also a true and briefe relation of the great victory obtained by Sir Ralph Hopton, neere Bodmin, in the county of Cornwall, Jan. 19. 1642. Garraway, Henry, Sir, 1575-1646.; Heylyn, Peter, 1600-1662. True and briefe relation of the great victory obtained by Sir Ralph Hopton, neare Bodmin. 1643 (1643) Wing G281; Thomason E245_29; Thomason E245_30; ESTC R1075 21,314 16

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that should refuse to sweare to assist them in that which already by several Oaths they are bound to resist and bei●g askt their reason should say that which their absence hath exprest beleive the statute of 25 Edw 3. before some late ordinances and call a Spade a Spade and Treason Treason they should but chang their places in the House for one in the Tower since my Lord Kimbolton himselfe upon such an occasion could not save his uncle though hee could his Father And indeed who ever observes the differences betwixt the Actions of the Houses will finde something to have interceded besides time and that either they are not composed of the same men or the same men have not the same freedome In a fortnights space the Lords House twice denied to aske the Militia of the King and declared that they would put it in execution without Him In two months time the Lords House desired the House of Commons to joyne with them in a Declara●ion against tumults with reasons expressing a great sence how scandalous it would be even to the past Lawes made by this Parliament if such meetings were not supprest and joyned with the House of Commons in a Declaration to His Majesty denying that there had been any tumults and justifying those meetings which they had called so before When His Majesty was going into Scotland it is well knowne that the principall reason upon which both Houses pressed his stay or to have a Custos Regni in his absence was that without His authority concurring mony could not be raised ●n that time of extreme necessity and yet it seems they have now discovered that His absence From is a desertion of His Parliament and that This and necessity enables them by the fundamentall Lawes to impose levyes and other Lawes upon his Subjects without his consent and contrary to his command and that the case is now the same as in the minority of a King though even then Sir Simon Dewes himselfe cannot produce one record that ever such levie was made by both Houses alone without the concurrence of the Royall assent by some Protectour It is well known by the many long debates about it without prevailing what little hopes at first appeared in the House of Commons that the Bill against Bisho●s Roote and Branch should passe in that House that a clause to that purpose was dasht even out of their first Remonstrance when the appeare not to have beene in any humour of complying beyond their ordinary inclinations and how impossible it appeared for a long time after that such a Bill should ever passe in the House of Peeres not six Lords then appearing of that minde and yet since a Declaration is past and a Bill is passing both Houses to that purpose They past a Bill upon my 〈◊〉 of Strafford of which the principall ground was that he had said that the King having endeavored to have the assistance of his Parliament in great necessity and for the defence of Himselfe and Kingdome and being deserted by them was absolved from all the rules of governement and yet since as if his Iudges had beene his Successours and had cut off his head onely to take out his princi●les they upon the same pretences have absolved themselvs from all rules of obedience and onely differ in not using the power they claim with the limitation he gave that is Cand●de Ca●te Nor is this onely since an actuall Warre though that being begun by them is no excuse but when all was quiet and no dangers but from fears Mr. Hothams Letter in answer to a complaint he expected from the inhabitants of Hull for some violent and illegall actions was read and not reproved in the House of Commons saying that he hoped since what hee did was in order to their commands they would not stand upon the form●lities of Law and Lawyers Sir it is true those formalities are now wholly laid by but till we shall returne to them and by them to some knowne Rule we shall have a most miserable form of Government If we fight yet another yeare in this Kingdome by that time this Kingdome will not bee worth the fighting for And when those armies which shall have impoverished you by their 〈…〉 y shall have kept the land from being tilled by their te●rour for the Countryman will not sow what he cannot hope quietly to reap as omnipotent as an ordinance is it will not be able to forbid a famine and to secure you from starving by the authority of both Houses you may yet secure your selves if you please make but good your Protestation let ●ot London help to undoe it selfe and the Country and the thing is done Defend the Religion established Suffer not Alderman Pen●ington so known a Brownist and des●iser of the Common-Prayer that the Replyer hath done his best to prove him none when he hath been able to name one time in which hee could bring himselfe to endure to be present at some twenty lines of it in the House of Commons as good an argument as he is a Major to encourage ●rabble of the same opinion whom I will name when he names that new Truth which he would have joyned to our Peace to suppresse That and the Act of Parliament that appoints it Defend your Liberties and suffer not a close Committee for your last jour●all tells us that such an excluding Committee there is and that they commit men by their owne orders as Col●onell Bro●●e for one whether that be the same with the Committee for examinations is not much materiall which by the course of Parliament can have no other course derived to it then to consider and report to imprison you by no Rule but that of their discretions which is more then they from whom they have their power have right to do or suffer an Order o● the House of Commons to stop Habeas Corpusses the Birth-right of every subject Defend your Propriety and suffer not the twentieth for as much they will call the twentieth part of your estates to bee taken from you by so insufficient Authority upon so invalid security for so rebellious an end as are an ordinance publike Faith and this present War Defend the Privi●edges of Parliament and His Majesties honour and rights and joyne not to take away His Majesties negative voyce by submitting to that authority to exclude him as no part of the publike by accepting of that security to include him among the publike enemies by contributing beyond your abilities and contrary to your Duties to a Warre against him Let not your mony and plate be turned into the price of the bloud of your fellow Subjects Suffer not a few men to set a whole Kingdome on fire to roast their owne egges by it at lea●● become not you the incendiaries by ministring fuell to this publike fire which else must instantly goe out of it selfe and give the King but what is his and that you may keep what
them concurre and by affronting and injuring some of the Members of both houses so awed the rest that the Army if it had really beene brought up to London could have done no more though a meere discourse concerning that was voted to be Treason When all these Tumults of which I speake the more knowingly because I was then by accident in the court of Requests when the Rabble came up and heard no Bishops no Bishops cryed with that animosity and violence that it rings still in my eares and saw Sir John Strangewayes threatned as their enemy and one I think they called him Master Killigrew laid hands on and so much feare in the faces of some other Members that I beleeve they hardly knew what they voted in a weeke after and the next day saw Westminster Abby assaulted by the same Rabble when these Tumults were not onely not punisht nor the Authors enquired after nor so much as the complaints of the particular Members considered but the Lords were twice refused to be joyn'd with in a Declaration against the like for the future And this Rabble commended and stiled their friends by the most eminent Members in that House When Justice Long was committed by the House of Commons for obeying a writ sent by direction of the Lords House and sending a watch to guard them and the Sheriffe forbid by the same House to proceed legally against a Riot in Southwarke When this countenance to Riots and discountenance of Law had made Tumults ordinary and familiar even at the Gates of White-hall and occasioned that accusation of the Lord Kimbolion and the five Members which hath been since five hundred times repeated as the principall ground of Jealousie though they were accused in so legall a manner as had beene formerly accepted by the House of Peeres in the Earle of Bristols Case and though the King offered them so much satisfaction for it that any private Christian that should refuse to receive it from his equall were in no case to receive the communion Who ever after that saw the great Leavies of armed men in London and the multitudes of people every day flocking to them from severall Countries and the low condition the King then was in removing from place to place without the convenience of ordinary Accommodation some of His servants leaving Him and others refusing to attend him could not beleeve that He could then give them such a Terror as no lesse then all the Castles and Forts of the Kingdome and the sole disposall of the whole Militia could give them security enough against Him who had not with or neare Him money enough to pay a man nor powder enough to kill a bird and could never have arrived at such a condition as to be able to raise an Army if the violence which hath beene since offered Him had not asisted Him Nor were the Lords then so affraid of the King or yet so afraid of the people as to demand so unreasonable security so that the House of Commons having twice in vaine attempted their consent were faine to aske it of His Majestie alone But when after the usuall Satellites came up to them with a Petition seconded and countenanc't by the House of Commons demanding those Lords names who refused to joyne This Eloquence prevailed or rather this Militia made the other passe and in a few dayes the King granting most but not all they askt the Lords who were unwilling to put the people to the trouble of comm●ng again joyned in Declaring and were as good as their words that if the King would not consent they would put the Militia in execution without Him Thus illegally was that Ordinance past both Houses which would have been most illegall however it had past Thus was the Kings highest Right His Negative voyce and in the highest point which alone enabled Him to defend the rest forced from him Thus was England put in Armes without his consent whose Commission onely could legally warrant the least Assembly in that kinde and a few Officers by his command in a peaceable manner attending him at Kingstone for his security was voted leavying of warre against himselfe and this was the first beginning of this necessary warre which now must make all things lawfull in order to that necessity Whilest the King presses still his Message of the 20. of January that he may but know what they would have and is not thought worthy of an Answer But to justifie their actions by their feares Armies are daily threatned from beyond-Sea though they have laine wind-bound ever since because all the world saw he had nothing in England he could fright them with but still the lower he was the higher they grew and the more they contemne him the more they feare him Nothing that he can doe will satisfie them Nothing that he can say shall satisfie the people for they shall not be suffered to see it Care is taken by order to the severall Burgesses That all the Townes of England must hear of his comming to the house of Cōmons and that in a manner in which he did no te●me But his sorrow that he hath by this brok any Priviledge his offers of satisfaction for it and his Resolution both to observe defend them all for the future If this be printed and offered to be publisht his Secretary must be questioned for sending it to the Sheriffs by his Majesties Command and the Sheriffs forbid to publish it according to the Kings own Warrant and sent for as Delinquents if they do Would he have my Lord of Newcastle command his Town he must not Would he not have Sir Iohn Hotham command it he must Dares he not come to London He must Would he be wayted on in the Countrey by his meniall servants he must not Will he not choose such Officers and Counsellors as they will name and displace such evill Counsellors as they cannot name Then the prevalency of the Malignant Party is cryed out upon his not encountring Colonell Burges and Captaine Venne in the head of their Mermidens is called deserting his Parliament The Rebellion of Ireland which he had disarmed himselfe to resist is laid to his charge and his offer to venture his Royall Person against the Rebels there is voted to be an encouragement to that Rebellion If he deny or delay any thing they aske though never so much in his power to grant or deny a new Vote passes upon the Advisers of being enemies to the State and having once found that Word to have great influence upon the people whatsoever he sayes or does he cannot but breake their Priviledges and whatsoever they say or doe they cannot breake his And indeed their observing no Rule at all in their Votes and the peoples readinesse to observe all their Votes as a Rule had so hared him and all his servants that I had rather be not onely Master Pym or Master Hampden but Master Cromwell or Master Pury then King of