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A82768 The diurnall occurrences of every dayes proceeding in Parliament since the beginning thereof, being Tuesday the twentieth of Ianuary, which ended the tenth of March. Anno Dom. 1628. With the arguments of the members of the House then assembled. England and Wales. Parliament. 1641 (1641) Wing E1526; Thomason E178_12; ESTC R2426 43,658 82

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Coriton Let it be done which way the House shall thinke fit But I conceive it is fit the Merchants should have their goods And before we can think of the Bill Kings ought not by the Law of God thus to oppresse their subjects I know we have a good King and this is the advise of his wicked Ministers but there is nothing that can be more dishonourable unto him M. Strowde That it may bee voted that the Merchants may have their goods before we enter on the Bill Chancellour of the Dutchie I shall speake my opinion because I know not whether I shall have liberty to speake or you to heare any more All the proceedings of the King and his Ministers was to keepe the Question safe untill this House should meet and you shall finde the proceedings were legall And thus much not knowing whether I shall attaine liberty to speake here againe Master Treasurer There is none here but would thinke it a hard thing that a possession should be taken from us without any order for sequestration that therefore it was not to be suffered that those few men should so unjustly disturbe the government of the State desires that there may bee no interruption but may proceed to settle the Tonnage c. M. Corinton I hope we shall speake here as we may speake in Heaven and doe our duties and let no feare divert us M. Walter It is not so few as five hundred Merchants are threatned in this Sir Robert Phillippes moveth we may goe to the King and satisfie him of these interruptions M. Noye We cannot safely give unlesse we be in possession and the proceedings in the Exchequer nullified and information in the Starre-Chamber and the annexion to the Petition of Right and other Records I will not give any voyce to this unlesse these things be made void For it will not be a gift but a confirmation neither will I give unlesse these interruptions and a Deciaration in the Bill that the King hath no right but by our free gift If it will not be accepted as it is fit wee cannot helpe it if it the Kings already as by these Records we need not give it Master Selden secondeth the motion of fending a message to the Exchequer declareth a president of a message sent into the Chancery for stay of proceedings in a cause and it was obtained and what Answer soever the Judges returne it cannot prejudice us The Law speakes by Record and if those Records remaine it will to posterity explaine the Law M. Littletor For the Right there is no Lawyer so ignorant to conceive it nor any Judge of the Land to affirme it is against giving to the King or going on with the Bill In this case a man cannot be put to a Petition of Right but shall recover without Petition Ordered a message shall bee sent to the Court of the Exchequer That whereas certaine goods of the Merchants have beene stayed by injunctions from that Court by false Affidavit and that upon examination the Customers that made the Affidavits have confessed that the goods were stayed onely for duties contained in the book of Rates That therefore that Court would make voyde the Orders and Affidavits in this businesse Friday the 13. of February Anno 1628. A Petition against one Burges a Priest who was here complained of the last Sessions some new Articles against him that hee could not get a coppy of his Articles out of the House untill hee was faine to get one to counterfeit himselfe a Puritan to get the same and other new misdemeanours Hee is ordered to be sent for Sir Iohn Elliott moveth for Priviledge of the Merchants Order is if any man have a complaint depending here shall bee priviledged in his person not freed from suits A Committee is to consider what priviledge is to bee allowed any man that hath any cause depending here in the meane time intimation shall bee given to my Lord Keeper that no Attachment shall goe forth against the Merchants The Chancellour of the Dutchie reported the message to the Exchequer Court That the Treasurer and the Barons will forthwith take the same into consideration and returne an answer Ordered that Master Secretary Cooke shall take care that intimation shall be given to the Citie about the Fast Doctor Moore called in saith he was referred to the Bishop of Winchester to bee censured for a Sermon preached by him the Bishop he had heard him preach and deliver many prettie passages against the Papists which pleased King Iames but he must not doe so now That you have a Brother that preacheth against bowing at the holy name of Jesus and of bowing to the high Altar and that the Communion Tables stood as in Ale-houses but he would have them set as high Altars Doctor Moore is to deliver these things in writing to morrow morning At the Committee for Religion If wee now speake not wee may for ever hold our peace when besides the Queenes Masse there are two Masses daily in the Queenes Court so that it is growne ordinary with the out-facing Jesuites and common in discourse will you goe to Masse or have you beene at Masse at Somerset house There comming five hundred at a time from Masse We desire it may bee knowne by what authority the Jesuites lately in Newgate were released M. Coriton doubts not but his Majesties intention was good in the Declaration lately published but I conceive it will bee made use of onely to our disadvantage That therefore the Declaration may bee taken into consideration Sir Richard Gravenor repents the proceedings of this House against Popery the last Session and what 〈◊〉 hath beene therein Sir Richard Gravenor Master Pymme In this great businesse concerning Religion and the staying of Execution of the Lawes against Recusants it will much conduce to our purpose and forward our Resolutions to cast backe our eyes to see what was done the last Session You may remember that amongst many other businesses of weight wee tooke to heart the decay of Religion we sought after the preservation thereof and how to maintaine it in its owne purity Wee found that of late yeares it had beene much wounded by heartning of Papists by conferring offices upon Recusants Wee summoned our judgements and imployed our best cares and paines for stopping the current of Popery which by such meanes like a Deluge came flowing upon us And well did it befit the profit of this House to be so zealous for the prosperity of that which ought to be so deare to every good mans soule and so pretious in their eyes and this wee attempted by these and the like stoppes First by that religious Petition wherein it pleased the Lords so readily to joyne with us Secondly by framing a Bill against Recusants which passed both Houses whereby his Majesty had beene much enriched better enabled to compasse his due from them and to avoid their deceits defrauding him thereof Thirdly by enforming him of the numbers