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The povver of kings discussed: or, An examen of the fundamentall constitution of the free-borne people of England: in answer to severall tenents of M. David Jenkins. By Will: Ball of Barkham, Esq;
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Ball, William.
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1649
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Wing B594; Thomason E540_21; ESTC R205769
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of_o the_o law_n advise_v with_o himself_o and_o his_o own_o council_n as_o well_o as_o with_o the_o council_n of_o his_o covenantee_n before_o he_o make_v or_o do_v act_n tend_v to_o the_o end_n of_o his_o covenant_n and_o great_a reason_n it_o be_v that_o the_o king_n shall_v have_v as_o great_a or_o rather_o great_a freedom_n in_o that_o he_o be_v the_o supreme_a ruler_n or_o high_a magistrate_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n a_o freedom_n to_o advise_v or_o to_o deny_v until_o advise_v be_v take_v do_v not_o nul_fw-fr nec_fw-la in_o foro_fw-la conscientiae_fw-la nec_fw-la in_o foro_fw-la juris_fw-la ☞_o ☞_o the_o tie_n or_o obligation_n of_o oath_n or_o covenant_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o such_o oath_n or_o covenant_n ti_v or_o oblige_v furthermore_o concern_v the_o king_n oath_n aforesaid_a although_o he_o be_v tie_v and_o oblige_v by_o virtue_n thereof_o to_o pass_v bill_n touch_v civil_a government_n as_o aforesaid_a yet_o i_o conceive_v that_o he_o be_v not_o tie_v and_o oblige_v 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the_o power_n of_o king_n discussed_a or_o a_o examen_fw-la of_o the_o fundamental_a constitution_n of_o the_o freeborn_a people_n of_o england_n in_o answer_n to_o several_a tenant_n of_o m._n david_n jenkins_n by_o will_n ball_n of_o barkham_n esq_n sat_n patriae_fw-la priamoque_fw-la datum_fw-la london_n print_v for_o john_n harris_n 1649._o the_o power_n of_o king_n discuss_v etc._n etc._n the_o freeborn_a people_n of_o england_n live_v or_o aught_o to_o live_v by_o or_o under_o a_o law_n of_o common_a consent_n the_o supreme_a ruler_n or_o high_a magistrate_n whereof_o be_v the_o king_n who_o oath_n be_v to_o conserve_v and_o maintain_v justas_fw-la leges_fw-la &_o consuetudines_fw-la quas_fw-la vulgus_fw-la elegerit_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o just_a law_n and_o custom_n which_o the_o common_a people_n shall_v choose_v as_o many_o do_v expound_v it_o other_o will_v have_v the_o verb_n elegerit_fw-la to_o signify_v have_v choose_v according_a to_o the_o french_a aurin_n choisy_a 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