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A45188 An argument for the bishops right in judging capital causes in parliament for their right unalterable to that place in the government that they now enjoy : with several observations upon the change of our English government since the Conquest : to which is added a postscript, being a letter to a friend, for vindicating the clergy and rectifying some mistakes that are mischievous and dangerous to our government and religion / by Tho. Hunt ... Hunt, Thomas, 1627?-1688. 1682 (1682) Wing H3749; ESTC R31657 178,256 388

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Authority or weight enough to perswade the contrary or an alteration therein notwithstanding that complaint which he tells us was made in the 45 of E. 3. fol. by the two Houses Counts Barons and Commons to the King how the Government of the Kingdom had been a long time in the hands of the Clergy Per cet grant mischiefs dammages sont avenuz en temps passe pluis purroit eschire en temps avenir al disherison de la Coronne grant prejudice du Royalme Whereby great mischiefs and damages have happened in times past and more may fall out in time to come to the disherison of the Crown and great prejudice to the Realm And therefore they humbly pray the King that he would imploy Laymen This they had too much reason to desire then when the Pope had advanced his Authority over them and put them under Oaths of Canonical obedience which rendred them less fit to be intrusted in the Government of this Kingdom who were become Subjects of another Empire usurping continually upon us which will never be our Case again if the Bishops can help it CHAP. III. ANd now we proceed to the Precedents of which the Octavo Book principally consists which seem as that Author and the other in Folio would have it to be not only a discontinuance of the Right of the Bishops to judge in Capital Causes but an argumentative proof that they never had any because it can as they say be never proved to be otherwise Immemorial time I confess is a great evidence of the right whether In non user or user and a fair reason to allow or deny the pretence and therefore we will now consider the Precedents As for the argumentative and discoursive parts of those books they will fall in to be answered by way of Objection when we are discoursing and proving the affirmative part of the Question and will best be reproved by being placed near the light of our reasons for establishing the Right of the Prelates If we do not give some satisfaction to these Precedents whatever we shall say I know can signifie no more than an Argument to prove a thing not true which is possible de facto testified by unexceptionable witnesses for such the Precedents will be taken until exceptions are made to their Testimony The Precedents produced by the two Authors are mostly the same only the Octavo hath more than what the Folio Book hath recited The first case that the Octavo produceth against the Lords Spiritual their Right of being Judges in Parliament in Capital Causes is that of Roger Mortimer Earl of March Simon Beresford and others who were no Peers and yet tryed in Parliament and no Bishops present and we agree it probable for his reason because there is mention made of Counts Barons and Peers and Peers being named after Barons could not comprehend the Bishops And because we think it reasonable when the orders of that House are particularly enumerated that the order omitted should be intended absent but we will not allow but that Peers is and so is Grants comprehensive of Bishops Nor will we when the entry is General intend the Bishops absent except he cannot otherwise prove them absent which we mention in the entry once for all as just and common measures between us in this dispute It will appear true what we affirm of the words Peers and Grants by what follows And if we should not insist upon their being present when nothing appears to the contrary we should do wrong to the Cause But to come to the consideration of this Precedent Is this a just Precedent Is not Magna Charta hereby violated Are not the proceedings altogether illegal Here are Commoners tryed by Peers in Parliament It is well known that the high displeasure of the King was concerned and that he did interpose with a plenitude of Power in this particular case against the fundamental constitutions of the Government the greatest crime of this Earl was too much familiarity with the Kings Mother Indignation and Revenge and not Justice formed the Process It was proceeded to condemn him Judicio Zeli upon pretence of the Notoriety of the fact Sir Robert Cotton in his abridgment tells us Anno 4. Ed. 3. That the King charged the Peers who as Judges of the Land by the Kings assent adjudged that the said Roger as a Traytor should be drawn and hanged The Bishops were not present certainly they were none of the Judges that gave Judgment as the King pronounced without Cognisance of the Cause The King had more Honour for their Order than to call then to such Drudgery and service of the Crown The iniquity of the sentence appears by the reversal thereof in Parliament 25 Ed. 3. in which the Original Record is recited Sir Robert Cotton in his Abridgment tells us That this Earl being condemned of certain points whereof he deserved commendation and for other altogether untrue surmises there was a Bill brought into the Lords House for the reversal of the Judgment and it was reverst by Act of Parliament indeed it could not be otherways reverst for no Court can judicially reverse their own Judgment for Error in Law and Judgment in the Lords House being the dernier Resort cannot be repealed but undone it may be by themselves in their legislative Capacity Here saith the Octavo the Bishops were not present at the passing of that Bill but yet the Octavo Gentleman will not pretend that the Bishops are to be excluded in any Acts of Legislation Why therefore was he so willing to impose upon the people so falsely and unrighteously and to produce this as a Precedent against the Bishops Right of Session in matters of that Nature by himself recognized There is nothing can excuse him herein for he is certainly self-condemned of undue Art in thi● matter In 20 R. 2. the Case of Sir Thomas Haxey happen'd which the Octavo book page 20 produceth against us He was forsooth condemned in Parliament for that he had preferred a Bill in the House of Commons for regulating the outragious Expences of the Kings House particularly of Bishops and Ladies Haxey was for this tryed and condemned to death for it in Parliament And here appears to be no Bishops and there ought not to have been any for these reasons First that the Bishops were the parties wronged and therefore could not in any fitness give sentence But Secondly if that was not in the Case that that caus'd the process was Royall anger upon a great faction of State in which I believe the Bishops were not engaged made for deposing of Rich. the 2d that was understood by the King to be in acting and promoted by Sir Thomas Haxey by his Bill It was this made the sentence altogether abhorrent from legal justice in matter and form Here was a Tryall of a Commoner by Peers a matter made Treason that did participate nothing of the nature of Treason But the discreet Gentleman
Regni Angliae pro tempore celebrandis necnon tractandi expediendi in eisdem quantum ad singula in instanti Parliamento pro statu honore Domini nostri Regis nec non Regalie ac quiete pace tranquillitate Regni judicialiter justificandi venerabili viro D. Thomae Peircy ..... Nostram plenariam committimus potestatem ita ut singula per ipsum facta in praemissis perpetuis temporibus rata habeantur The Commons of England knew what they said and could not be mistaken in fact we know of no Judgments reversed but those of the Spencers But we have no Records or very few of the times before Edward the Third transmitted to us through the injury of the times but they then had certainly whereupon they grounded their petition upon which the said procuratory Letters were made which petition here follows in terminis Mecredy prochein ensuant les Communes monstrerent au Roy coment avant ces Jeures plusieurs jugements Ordinances faitez en temps des progenitors nostre Senior le Roy en le Parliement eiant estre repelles adnulles pur ceo que l'estat de Clergie ne fust prest en Parliament a la faisaunce des dits jugements Ordenances pur ceo prierent au Roy que pur surete de sa personne salvation de son Royalme les Evesques le Clergie ferroient un Procurator aver poiar sufficient pur consentir en leur nosme as toutes choses ordinances a justifieis en cest Parliament que sur ceo chescun Signior espiritual dirroit pleinenent son advys Sur qui les dits Seigniors Espiritual severalment examines se consenterent de Comettre lour plein poiar grantant en les parts nosmerent on especial Tho. Peircy Chivaler sur ceo baillerent au Roy une Schedule contenant lour dit poiar le quelle nostre Seignior le Roy receust commanda la dite Mecredy estre enter de record en Rol de Parliament deque cela Schedule le form sensuit But it is remarkable that this Petition was made in 21 R. 2. for that in the 11 R. 2. the Bishops had made their Protestation that by reason of a Canon they could not be present The words of the protestation we shall here transcribe Per encheson certeins mattires feurent mouvez en cest present Parliament toucherent overtement Cryme L'archevesque de Canterbiry les autres Prelates de sa province fierent une protestation en la fourme paroles qui suent In Dei nomine Amen Cum de Jure consuetudine Regni Angliae ad Archiepiscopum Cantuariensem qui pro tempore fuerit nec non caeteros suos Suffraganeos Confratres Coepiscopos Abbates Priores aliosque Praelatos quoscunque per Baroniam de Domino Rege tenentes pertinet in Parliamentis Regiis quibuscunque ut Pares Regni praedicti personaliter interesse ibidemque de Regni negotiis aliis ibi tractari consuetis cum caeteris Domini Regis Paribus aliis ibidem jus interessendi habentibus consulere tractare ordinare statuere definire ac caetera facere quae Parliamenti tempore ibidem invenerint faciend in quibus omnibus singulis nos Willielmus Cantuarien Archiepiscopus totius Angliae Primas Apostolicae sedis Legatus pro nobis nostrisque Suffraganeis Coepiscopis Confratribus necnon Abbatibus Prioribus ac Praelatis omnibus supradictis protestamur eorum quilibet protestatur qui per se vel procuratorem hic fuit modo praesens publicè expressè quod intendimus intendi volumus vult eorum quilibet in hoc presenti Parliamento aliis ut Pares Regni praedicti more solito interesse consulere tractare ordinare statuere definire ac caetera exercere cum caeteris jus interessendi habentibus in iisdem statu ordine nobis eorum cuilibet in omnibus semper salvis Verum quia in praesenti Parliamento agitur de nonnullis materiis in quibus non licet nobis aut alicui eorum juxta Sacrorum Canonum instituta quomodolibet personaliter interesse ea propter pro nobis eorum quolibet protestamur eorum quilibet hic praesens etiam protestatur quod non intendimus nec volumus sicuti de jure non possumus nec debemus intendit nec vult aliquis eorundem in praesenti Parliamento dum de hujusmodi materiis agitur vel agetur quomodolibet interesse sed nos nostrum quemlibet in ea parte penitus absentare Jure Paritatis nostrae cujuslibet eorum interessendi in dicto Parliamento quoad omnia singula inibi exercenda nostro eorum cujuslibet statui ordini congruentia in omnibus semper salvo Adhuc insuper protestamur eorum quilibet protestatur quod propter hujusmodi absentiam non intendimus nec volumus nec eorum aliquis intendit vel vult quod processus habiti habendi in praesenti Parliamento super materiis auditis in quibus non possumus nec debemus ut praemittitur interesse quantum ad nos eorum quemlibet attinet futuris temporibus quomodolibet impugnentur infirmentur seu etiam revocentur Quelle protestation leu en plein Parliament al instance priere du dit L'archevesque les autres Prelates susditz inrollez ycy en rol du Parlement per Commandement du Roy assent des Signiors Temporeles Communes This the adversaries of the Bishops would have an Act of Parliament for that at the prayer of the Bishops by the Kings command with the assent of the Lords Temporal and Commons it was inrolled for that all the formalities that were used in these times in passing a Law was only to have the matter shortly entred in the Roll or Journal Book that such a thing was agreed upon by the King and two Houses which was drawn into the form of a Law afterwards by the Justices and Kings Councel when the Parliament was risen but this was never done in this Protestation and therefore we might say that it is not to be taken for a Law But we will admit it to be a Law yet it can be a Law only for that Case and can be extended no further Those Bishops protest but for whom For themselves only their own persons not their successors that by reason of the institution of the Canon they could not be present at certain matters to be treated of in the Parliament What those Canons were they do not tell us They had no other reason but the Canon to pretend at that time We hear not a word from them of the Assise of Clarendon And what was it that they protested Why only that they could not be present at what only at the matters aforesaid mentioned in the Petition and in that present Parliament But was this without any regard of their Right No they saved their Right their
concesserunt in sententiam Excommunicationis generaliter latam apud Westm decimo tertio die Maii Anno Regni Regis praedicti 37 in hac forma viz. Quòd vinculo praefatae sententiae ligentur omnes venientes contra Libertates contentas in Chartis communium Libertatum Angliae de Foresta omnes qui Libertates Ecclesiae Angliae temporibus Domini Regis praedecessorum suorum Regni Angliae obtentas usitatas scienter malitiosè violaverint aut infringere praesumpserint And the Record concludes In hujus rei memoriam in posterum veritatis testimonium tam Dominus Rex quàm praedicti Comites ad instantiam aliorum populi praesentium which at that time was the style of a Parliament and the manner of passing such Acts scripto sigilla sua apposuerunt Rot. Pat. 37 H. 3. M. 12. dorso And whereas it was provided by the Confirmat Chart. c. 4.25 E. 1. and by the Statute De Tallagio non concedendo c. 4.34 E. 1. That Excommunication should twice a year be denounced against the Infringers of Magna Charta At a Synod held for the Province of Canterbury in that Kings time John Peckam Archbishop of Canterbury enjoyned the like Denunciations near four times every year Constit Provinc tit De Sententia Excom And in the Province of York it obtained three times in a year Manuale juxta usum Ecclesiae Eboracensis By which the exemplary zele of the Bishops in those times against Oppression and the violation of the common Rights and the attempts of absolute and unlimited power appears for that they prevented the Temporal Baronage and outdid the Parliament it self in defending and guarding the Government of Laws By the way we cannot but take notice of Mr. Selden his mistake in his book De Synedriis which he fell into by inserving to his beloved Erastian Hypothesis viz. That that Excommunication before mentioned in 37 H. 3. was enacted by Parliament whereas it was onely confirmed but pronounced by the Bishops though with the seeming good liking of that King so that the Power of the Keys was not usurp'd but the exercise thereof approved by Parliament according to what hath been usual as Grotius observes Vsum Clavium Divino Juri congruum poenarum injunctionem Canonibus Legibus consentaneum summae potestates solent approbare atque hoc est Imperiale Anathema Quòd non una Justiniani lege comprehensum est Which together with what hath been said by us here will serve for an Answer to what Mr. Selden hath aggested in his book De Synedriis for wresting the Keys out of the hands of the Bishops They pretend to a Jus Divinum only for that which merely concerns their Spiritual Office and I cannot for my part suspect them of holding any Opinion of a Jus divinum in Civil Offices which are of a Humane Original because I can imagine no reason for such an Opinion though I know it is by some imputed to them By a Thomas of Becket a Sibthorp and Manwaring and a few less-considering Clergy-men in an Age we are not to conclude the Judgment of the Body of our Learned Clergy They assuredly know as all men in their Wits do believe that the Government is de jure such as it is and can be no other nor rightfully admit any Alteration That God never made any Commonwealth but one by his directive Will and that only for one Nation for in these things he hath left men ordinarily in the Hands of their own Councils and to their own Prudence in which he had no regard to the absolute rightful Sovereignty of Adam's right Heir the wildest certainly of all the Paradoxes that this giddy phantastick Age hath produced The Kentish Knight should have kept his Dream to himself until he had found him out and then have brought him and his Book called Patriarcha together to the King Then I doubt not but his Majesty would have provided him his due Reward But his Book and the Publishers thereof deserve his Majesty's utmost Displeasute For we are in fear that the Government is about to be changed when Books are licensed to prove any thing Lawful in that kind And besides it makes a Charge upon our Divines that they have a good liking to the Design for that they who best understand by their Profession the jura divina have not answered it But to speak the Truth the Book is not to be answered For it is but a fine Essay how near Non-sence may be made to look like Sence and it is truly worth no man 's Undertaking But whatsoever sinister thoughts some ill affected Men to the Bishops may conceive of them we expect and with reason too that they will with equal Courage to that recorded of their Predecessors stand up for the Preservation of the Government in its true and rightful Constitution And the rather for that the true Religion their Principal Care and their Temporal Rights and Dignities will inevitably perish in the Change Nay perhaps in consequence of the very Attempt of a Change except they strenuously for their parts oppose it However their Order will certainly by their Silence and Indifferency be rendred despicable They will lose all opinion with the People of their Sincerity perform their Functions with no advantage and lose that share in the Honors and Affections of the People that will establish them bespeak them useful and necessary to the Church and state in their several Capacities in all after times That they answer their Trust and perform that Duty which they owe to the Publick in their several Offices is that we may justly expect And this they will certainly do though they should be censured as they were in K. John's days or in the Language of the Folio Author charged to be clamorous and over-busie Medlers in Matters of State and Government But to return Is it not a course Artifice in the Octavo pag. 96. that he will so willfully mistake the Question'd of the Bishops being one of the three States and representing the Matter as if the Bishops should have a Negative by themselves to stop the passing of any Bill if they are admitted to be a distinct State CHAP. XXVI WHen it is not disputed or brought into Question whether they are divided in their Voting from the Temporal Barons most certainly they never were nor was it ever disputed Though an obstinate Opinion was maintained from the Time of E. 2. in the Case of the Spencers until the Time of E. 5. in the Case of the Earl of Salisbury that the Bishops Presence was necessary in Judgments even in Capital Causes which must be allowed a clear Argument for their Right of Judgment in such Causes For the Spiritual and Temporal Lords though two States make but one House upon the Reasons afore-mentioned according to the general Understanding and Usage of former Ages But upon this Supposition he tells us of several Bills that gave furtherance to
ought to set aside and supersede the consideration of Decency CHAP. XII BUT to complete our Evidence I will add the consideration of what remains unquestionably the Right of the Lords Spiritual which seems to me to be in parity of Reason with the Right now in Pretense and that is their Right to be authoritatively present and assisting at passing Bills of Attainder which the Bishops always exercised as the Folio saith though he will not think it allowable from thence to infer that they have rightful Authority when that House doth proceed judicially to Condemnation But I desire to be informed what difference there is between condemning a man by Act of Parliament and by Judgment in Parliament If the death of the man be onely considered it is as much against the Canon to condemn the man one way or the other It 's causa judicium sanguinis and death follows Nay to condemn a man by Bill of Attainder is more against the reason of the Canon than the condemning a man judicially for the condemning a man judicially is ex officio Judicis but a Bill of Attainder is an extraordinary use of the Legislative Power to a purpose which was not designed in the Institution Such an Act is not ex officio Legislatoris but the using of the Absolute Power of the Sovereignty upon Reasons of State Here one would think if the Canon had any consideration any obligation it should restrain the Bishops from meddling in such Legislations Privilegia ne irrogunto was one of the Laws of the twelve Tables But if I do rightly understand the reason why Bishops did more frequently and without pretence of scruple or objecting the Canon assist in the Bills of Attainder was for this reason That the weightiness of the Affair the high nature of the Proceeding the extraordinary use of the Legislative Power which can be warranted onely by extraordinary Reasons required their Presence and put that little pretence of the Canon out of countenance it could not with any faith to the Government be then so much as mentioned for an Excuse by the Bishops And this I will say that the Canon hath no more right of restraining the Bishops in Judicial Proceedings than in the Proceedings upon Bill of Attainder That it hath not done so is confessed in this and therefore it did not de jure do so in the other The Folio Author hath found out a very extraordinary Reason why Bishops are necessary to Acts of Attainder but this he saith must not be drawn into an Argument for the Bishops Right of Judging and that is because Rights Titles and Interests are made forfeit by Acts of Attainder which were not forfeitable at Common Law and for the doing of this it i● necessary there should be a concurrence of the three Estates to bind all Rights This Argument supposeth that private Acts of Attainder did not always conform themselves in the matter of Forfeitures to the severity of the Common Law or general Statute Law which is a mistake for before the Statutes of 26 H. 8. c. 13. 33 H. 8. c. 20. private Acts of Attainder made no Forfeitures but what the Common Law made and since the Statutes of 26 H. 8. c. 13. 33 H. 8. c. 20. the private Attainders by Parliament have not exceeded those appointed by that Statute but have often times gone less And therefore the Bishops were not present for the reason of making Forfeitures larger and of more things than the Law at the time being made forfeitable but of common duty especially in all these matters of an extraordinary nature or difficulty to assist as Judges and Councellours in that House And to this that I now say all the Acts of Parliament of private Attainders that I have seen and they are not a few are agreeable I believe what he hath said in this matter is not grounded upon any observation but he was willing to find out a Reason for what he had undertaken to prove and to offer it without trying of its truth Besides whatever can be a Law can be a Law without them and if they are absent CHAP. XIII BUT I must take notice that we have proved beyond what is necessary to maintain the Lords Spiritual their pretence of Right to judge of the Earl of Danby's Pardon which is the present case and gives the occasion of this Dispute And here I desire the Reader to remember and observe what was heretofore done by the Bishops in case of Heresie The Bishop in his Consistory convicted a Heretick and did never imagine he incurr'd the Canon pretended though the delivery over to the Secular Arm and burning of the Convict if he did not recant was intended assuredly to follow because he did not award the Execution and give the final killing Sentence How then can the Canon if it was a Law as it is not nor obligeth any man but he that will be obliged lay any restraint upon the Bishops in judging of the Earl of Danby's Pardon For if they dislallow his Pardon and reject his Plea he is not to be therefore condemned though perhaps his Condemnation may follow as burning doth the Conviction of a Heretick but he is not ipso facto and merely by rejecting his Plea of Pardon condemned For observe I pray no man is condemned or cast in any Suit because he doth not make a good Defence but upon the sufficiency of the matter whereupon he is charged Besides that it is not without Precedent that a man hath been tried after a Pardon pleaded and disallowed This every Lawyer knows to be so that if a Plea is pleaded to any Declaration upon which the Plaintiff demurs if the Plea be ruled a bad Plea the Defendent hath liberty to take exception to the insufficiency of the Declaration So that Judgment is finally and truly given upon the Declaration and Charge because there is a good cause of Action and not because the Defendent hath made a bad Plea So that the Bishops may judge in their own persons of the validity of Pardons without being contravenient to the Reason of the Canon so much talked of is evident for that the Judgment upon the Pardon is not the final and killing Judgment The Folio hath furnished us with an Authority for the same out of an ancient Manuscript Chronicle in libro Mailrosso he calls it wherein he saith the Prelates are said to have given their Opinion in 21 R. 2. for the revocation of certain Pardons of the Duke of Gloucester Earls of Arundel and Warwick which were granted in 11 R. 2. and in the Parliament of 21 R. 2. repealed And though the Chronicle said some blamed the Bishops and thought that they had incurred thereby Irregularity That doth not at all prejudice our Right nor abate the force of the Testimony that this matter of fact gives to it We reserved it to this place to add that as the intention of the Assize of Clarendon was to set bounds
him out of the Government and he had no more Christian Graces than Faith Hope and Charity which he attributes to this Ternary of States of his own making But if he had four of those Graces there had been four States if six of those Graces to have match'd them in number he would have found three States in the House of Commons viz. Knights Citizens and Burgesses and have made six States It seems too King James made a Speech in Parliament wherein he was pleased to use his Logick and liked it seems the Ramistical way of Dichotomies The truth is he had more Logick than a wise King could tell how to bestow For in that Speech he saith The Parliament is composed of a Head and a Body himself and the Parliament This Body is sub-divided into two parts the upper House and the lower House The upper House into two Lords Spiritual and Temporal the lower House into two Knights and Burgesses The Citizens were left out for the sake of his Dithotomy His Method was to proceed by the way of two's and therefore 't was impossible we should here in this Speech of any three whatsoever yet this Speech too is produced against three States distinct from the King Besides they tell us that in one of the late King's Declarations drawn by then a young Gentleman but of great hopes and afterwards a very great Man the King is called one of the three States This Gentleman was very probably misled into that Mistake by a Book called Nomotechnia wherein it is said that the King Lords and Commons are the three States a Book of Institutions for young Students which was never yet allowed for Authority in the Law nor ever had the Honor to be cited in our Courts of Westminster These Mistakes or whatever you will call them with the Authority of the Octavo Author are united together to form an Opinion that the King is but the Bishops are not one of the three States which will be a very dishonorable Error For that it will lead us into a Mistake of our Government and which is much worse for that it hath a tendency to subvert it that is to depress the King and to suppress the Bishops It is an Indign thing and not to be suffer'd that we should lose our Government by Surreption and be made a Babel by dividing and confounding our Language To prevent this mischief we have declared our Government from the very Reason and Nature of the Structure thereof to consist of three States that is three different Orders which make the Great Council of the Kingdom whose End and Business is to administer Council and Auxiliaries to the King who is intrusted with the executive Power of the Government and Laws And besides now we will produce great Authorities to put this Mistake out of Countenance and to prevent its gaining any farther Authority with the People For Errors of this nature in process of time turn into Truth and things prove to be so at last as the Error and Mistake first bespake them and this our Lawyers know well enough with whom 't is a Maxime it belongs only to them and matters within their Province Communis Error facit Jus. And first for this purpose we will mention the Stile that the Parliament used which was convened by the Authority of Richard the Second he being then about to relinquish the Crown to H. 4. This Parliament in transacting so weighty an Office had reason to consider and know who they themselves were They without doubt in all their Proceedings in this High Matter used their true as well as biggest Stile which was that of States Walsingham tells us Sede Regali tunc vacua Procurators Regis Richardi Archiepiscop Eborac Hereford Renunciationem dicti Regis cessionem omnibus statibus Regni tunc adunatis ibi publice declararunt And again Quoniam videbatur cunctis Regni statibus super dictis Articulis singulatim ac etiam communiter interrogatis And again Ordinati sunt Comissarii ex parte statuum Communitatis ejusdem Regni Observe here that the King is none of these States that they are called all the States which signifies more than two that there is mention of States besides Community and therefore it was then understood that there were two States in the Lords House But afterwards he recites us the Form of a most important Instrument which follows In Dei nomine Amen Nos I. Episc Assavensis I. Abbas Glasconiensis Thomas Comes Glocestriae Thomas Dominus de Berkley Tho. de Epingham Tho. Gray Miles Willielmus Thirning Justiciarius per Pares Proceres Regni Angliae Spirituales Temporales ejusdem Regni Communitates omnes status ejusdem Regni Representantes Commissarii ad infra scripta specialiter deputati c. By which it is most clear that the Government was then understood to consist of three States of which the King was none as he cannot be with any Congruity 1 R. 3. Rot. Parl. apud Westm die Veneris 23 Jan. it appears that a Bill was exhibited coram Dom. Rege in Parl. Wherein is contained That several Articles on the behalf and in the name of the three States of the Realm viz. Lords Spiritual Temporal and Commons were delivered to the King And farther that the said three Estates were not assembled in form of Parliaments therefore be it ordained by this present Parliament that the Tenor of the said Articles delivered as aforesaid on the behalf of the said three Estates out of Parliament c. Now by the three Estates assembled in this present Parliament be the same ratified and approved Ac idem Dominus Rex de assensu dictorumtrium statuum Regni Authoritate praedicta omnia singula praemissa in billa praedicta contenta concedit ea pro vero indubio pronunciat decernit ac declarat This was in like manner an Act of Parliament for declaring the Right of the Crown to be in Rich. 3. In the Statute made 2 H. 4. the Word State is used plurally and for more than two of which the King was none to signifie the Parliament as appears cap 15. And so it is also in 4 Hen. 4. cap. 4. in which these words are Sith it is the desire of all the States of the Realm that nothing shall be so demanded of our Sovereign the King He will that all those who make any Demand c. So that hereby it is evident that in the Understanding of that time there were three States besides the King But to spare the Reader the trouble of the mentioning the Records at large that testifie the Parliament to consist of the King and the three Estates viz. Lords Spiritual Lords Temporal and Commons I will refer them that doubt to the Collection made in Mr. Pryn's Index to Sir Robert Cotton's Abridgment under that Title who himself was of this Opinion which nothing but the Evidence of the truth of the thing could have
the Lords and sate in one House they could not discharge that Office of a Representative so well as since they are divided from them and make a distinct House They could not well use that Freedom of Speech and Debate under the Observation of the great Lords upon whom the Principal Gentlemen had great Dependencies Their Consent was often very improperly such for he only truly and naturally consents who hath entire Freedom to dissent Si vis scire an velim effice ut possim nolle In the granting Aids for the Support of the Government and Defence of the Kingdom a Matter of the greatest Importance the Clergy Nobility and Commons stood divided and could not as the Ancient Constitution was by one Act of State be regularly and proportionably taxed according to the Exigency of the Affairs and their respective Abilities but those three Orders taxed themselves in such measures as they pleased which made the Kingdom Geryon-like a Monster of three Bodies Their several Concessions by this means not likely to be always equal and in the whole not competent to the instant necessity The Bishops Abbots and other Ecclesiastical persons of the Saxons time held their Lands free from all Secular Services besides Trinoda Necessitas viz. Expedition i. e. Supply for War pontium arcium extructio But King Ethelbald did grant that the Ecclesiasticks should be freed from all publick Charges except for the Building and Repairing of Castles and Bridges Ingulphus pag. 853. The like Immunity was allowed to the Clergy of the Empire by Honorius and Theodosius Lib. 4. Cod. Just de priv Dom. Aug. By the Great Charter their Priviledges were confirmed And for this reason the Clergy have taken themselves not of Right chargeable to Aids granted to the King by Parliament This Exemption hath been envied to them and made matter of Reproach though unduely in after Ages But notwithstanding this Exemption they have aided the Crown with Supplies frequently yet in such manner as asserted and saved their ancient Priviledge of being exempt that is they would not suffer themselves to be involved in a general Law but of their own Freedom and Will gave to the King which Concessions were notwithstanding not legal unless confirmed by Parliament to whom belonged always the power of judging of the Freedom and Ends of giving Aids and Benevolences and the necessity that required them But in the last Ages they have for their Commendation and Honor waved their pretences of Priviledge and Exemption and for the sake of Common Justice and the Publick Weal for avoiding being thought less in their Duty to the Publick than their Order required And for the better ascertaining and more equally adjusting the Parliamentary Aids they have submitted to be taxed by Acts of Parliament The Commons in Parliament we find as late as Henry 7. taxing only the Commons and that by Indenture between them and the King This Form of Grant is utterly exclusive of the Lords Power to charge the quantum times of Payment or ways of Levying of the Aids granted wherein they subject all Lands to the Levies thereof but the Lands of the Lords in Parliament or Land amortis'd to the Church Such an Indenture was made in Parliament held at Westminster 10 H. 7. and is pleaded at large in Rastals Entr. fol. 135. But of late our Government hath cleared it self from that grand inconveniency The Commons in Parliament and those whom they represent being far the greatest Proprietors they reasonably challenge it their Right to propound all Aids and appointing the Levies and Methods of raising them which because it must be agreed that the Commons in no congruity can tax the Lords authoritatively or impose upon them must have civilem intellectum that is the Commons in a Bill of Aids do propound that they will agree on the behalf of the Commonalty that they shall be taxed as the Bill propounds if the Lords for their part will agree the same CHAP. XXII NEither was our ancient Government without great faults and inconveniences in the conduct of Religion the principal care of all Governments on the one side by confounding Administrations which should have been kept distinct which was the fault of our Government in the Saxons time and by utterly disjoyning and severing the Church and State and not tying the Ecclesiasticks to a just dependency upon the State which was the Evil of after times that is to say the Ecclesiasticks were left to themselves to convene Councils and to make Canons without any dependence upon or relation to Parliaments The Constitution was such in the Saxons time that the Synods or Councils which govern'd in Religious matters were the same with their great Council or Parliament By these means all the Rules and Orders that were made in the matters of Religion were not Canons which are of the nature of Councils but Laws and obliged those that contravened them to temporal punishment The Church was thereby turned into a Dynasty and Religion was against its nature promoted by force which can onely truly obtain by persuasion And wheresoever this is in practice and use the Clergy to the great scandal of their Office will be entituled to all the Severities that shall be inflicted upon Dissenters Heretofore the Councils of the Church and the Authority of the State were unduly confounded After that we had Legatine Councils and Provincials convened by the Archbishops as they pleased not under the observation and controll of the Civil Power by which many inconveniences were occasioned many embroilments of the people happened the Authority of the Prince lessened and Civil Rights encroached upon the validity of several good Laws made in Parliament disputed clamoured against and sentenced as unlawful for want of a due subservience and dependence of the Ecclesiastical Conventions on Parliaments We had Imperium in Imperio or at least a Kingdom divided against it self This fault in our Government was help'd by Edward the Third our English Justinian he in the several Writs of Summons of the Bishops to Parliament made it a settled Rule that the clause of Praemunientes should be inserted requiring them therein to warn respectively Priorem Capitulum Ecclesiae vestrae C. ac Archidiaconos totúmque Clerum vestrae Diocesis quòd iidem Prior which if a Cathedral is the same as a Dean Archidiaconi totúsque Clerus vestrae Diocesis quòd iidem Prior Archidiaconi in propriis personis suis dictum Capitulum per unum idámque Clerus per duos Procuratores idoneos plenam ac sufficientem potestatem ab ipsis Capitulo Clero habentes praedictis die loco personaliter intersint ad consentiendum his quae tunc ibidem de communi concilio ipsius Regni nostri Divinâ favente Clementiâ contigerit ordinari And accordingly the several Bishops in obedience to such like Writs of Summons to Parliament to them directed summoned or warned their Deans or Priors Archdeacons and the Clergy by their Proxies
the Reformation to which the Bishops did not assent and would never have passed if they had had a Negative upon them But by his Favor these Instances of his are great Arguments of those Bishops their Sincerity For they must needs be under great and violent Prejudices Besides every great man as the Author of the Letter well knows is apt to value himself and cares not to be accounted a light man and the higher in place the more unwilling to be found in a Mistake and they are not content if Old Men Quae juvenes dedicere senes perdenda fateri There is good Hopes therefore that our Rightfully Reformed Bishops will be the last that will give up the Cause of Reformed Christianity and will not be out-done by the Popish Bishops in Constancy when they have a better Cause I must likewise take notice to do the Spiritual Lords Justice of the Behavior of the Gentleman in Folio towards the Bishops He takes notice and that dutifully of the Satyrical so he calls it Language of the Pamphleteers against the Court and the greatest Scurrilities with which the House of Commons are aspersed but has not heard sure of any against the Bishops and the whole Ecclesiastical Order For he makes not the least mention of any such But because they shall not escape besides that in his Book he declaims 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 against the Order and seems so fond of this Office that he forbids all other the use of the Cart he tells the Story of Hephestion and Craterus the one of which loved Alexander and the other the King By this Apologue I doubt not but he intended a Slander and to signifie thereby supprestly a lewd Reproach viz. that the Bishops are not true Servants of the King and Government but of themselves than which a falser thing I hope cannot be said nor a more malitious thing imagined if not true For he may know that they are better men in their true Character than his Loyal Patriots that are true to the King and House of Commons For they have I doubt not I am sure they ought to have a care of the whole Government in the Integrity of its Constitution The Bishops well know how much the People are concerned in the Greatness of the House of Lords which establisheth the Throne and makes and supports the King Great and by their Power and Interest make his Government equal to which they contribute no small Share for to them is entrusted by the Authothority of our Lord Christ the Conduct of Religion and that mighty and momentous Office hath commended them and advanced them to the State of Peerage and will continue them in great Authority with the People as long as the Nation continues in any degree Religious The Temporal Baronage cannot want them in the Support of that mighty Province that belongs to that House In them the People will find their Interest as long as they can value Wisdom and Religion that is as long as they are Christian Men and by them the Kingly Office will find it self served as long as true Religion and Wisdom can minister to the Support of Government and wise and good men under the greatest Trust and in the highest Dignity in the Government can be fit Councellors and Ministers of State The Octavo hath also a hint to this purpose for pag. 30. where he brings in the Case of Thomas Arundel Arch-bishop of Canterbury when all the Bishops made Sir Thomas Piercy their Procurator he says That uniting in one man argued a great Unanimity in the Voting of the Prelates which seems saith he hath ever been The meaning of this is a sly Disparagement of the Bishops in their Voting viz. that have one Common Tie and Dependency upon the Crown that determines them to their Interest and produces the Unanimity of Voting But are the Bishops more depending because they once for all received their Temporalities from the King than the Temporal Lords who are commoly Officers of State and otherwise depend upon their Prince's Favor Is not the Bishops Advancement rather a Reward to their Eminent Services performed in the matter of Religon of the greatest Importance certainly to the State and a Recognition of the excellent Character of those men that are preferred to that Office than a Bribe upon their Actings after they have that Favor irrevocable Do not we know that the Services of Church-men are rewardable upon the Churches Stock and that the King need not impair the Royal Treasure to pay Thanks to Episcopal Men whose Worth doth bespeak the Royal Favor to that Preferment and Advancement Are not the Temporalities of the Church the King 's only to give but not to retain What evil Prejudice or Obligation can this be to any man to serve the King unfaithfully who hath chosen him perhaps though there were others but as equally fit for that Office For we ought to suppose no other disposition of those Dignities than what is just and fit in our general Discourses however things are administred in particular Cases Is not this an Office together with its maintenance of the Provision of the Law and not of the King But to remove that Scandal of their Unanimity in voting which some have reproached with a scoffing Term of a dead Weight it may be considered that Men of the best Judgments and Honesty mostly agree That Variety of Judgments proceeds oftner from Passion and Interest than from Difficulty of the matter debated It mostly grows either from want of Integrity or want of Judgment Agreement in Votes is an Argument therefore of true Judgment and unbiassed Integrity As it is also farther of a good Correspondence amongst themselves of previous Debates and more mature Deliberation Besides that it is no unusual thing in difficult and lubricous Affairs for many to compromise the matters to a few or to the Majority of their own Numbers and abide the Result of the major part But because this matter of Exception to the Integrity of my Lords the Bishops in the great Affair now in Agitation is argumentum ad hominem and gives Prejudice to the true Right and Merits of the Cause and is the most prevalent and hopeful Argument if not the only one that our Adversaries can rely upon For whatever the Causa justifica or Pretence be for the espousing of any Opinion or part of any Controversie if the Causa suasoria the Inducement and true moving cause thereto be strong and persuasive the slightest Reasons will be a pretence for Confidence and the smallest Color of Right shall prevail finally and in the last Issue especially where the Parties concerned must judge or by their Power can make their Will and determinate Resolves to obtain to the biggest purposes I will therefore farther add that we well know what a high Esteem their true Character doth deserve That they are intended the Light of the World the Salt of the Earth If the Salt hath lost its Savor