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A44187 A letter of a gentleman to his friend, shewing that the bishops are not to be judges in Parliament in cases capital Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680. 1679 (1679) Wing H2461; ESTC R204379 41,325 145

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bishop_n of_o durham_n and_o carlisle_n do_v the_o like_a that_o they_o absent_v themselves_o from_o parliament_n in_o regard_n such_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v there_o agitate_a but_o with_o a_o salvo_n to_o their_o right_n which_o some_o will_v have_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o a_o right_a to_o be_v present_a even_o when_o those_o matter_n be_v in_o agitation_n and_o that_o it_o be_v only_o upon_o some_o prudential_a consideration_n that_o they_o do_v withdraw_v but_o this_o can_v no_o way_n be_v their_o meaning_n but_o they_o protest_v their_o have_v a_o right_a to_o sit_v and_o vote_n in_o parliament_n upon_o all_o other_o occasion_n in_o the_o general_n though_o upon_o that_o occasion_n they_o may_v not_o be_v present_a the_o word_n of_o their_o protestation_n make_v it_o evident_a nos_fw-la willielmus_fw-la cant._n archiepiscopus_a pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la &_o suffraganeis_fw-la coepiscopis_fw-la etc._n etc._n protestamur_fw-la quod_fw-la intendimus_fw-la &_o intendi_fw-la 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