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A54085 The people called Quakers cleared by Geo. Keith from the false doctrines charged upon them by G. Keith and his self-contradictions laid open in the ensuing citations out of his books / by John Penington. Penington, John, 1655-1710.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. Postscript. 1696 (1696) Wing P1229; Wing P1230; ESTC R40279 25,467 55

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he answers by denying the second Proposition For if they did cleave unto said he then and Believe in the Light they Believed in Christ for he is the Light nor is the outward name that which saveth but the inward Nature Virtue and Power signified thereby which was made manifest in them and thus is Christ even that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that which may or must be known of God p. 30. But this he will not allow to us now The Gentiles were not so cast off but that as to what was the main and principal thing to wit the word of Faith the Gentiles did share with the Jews and that whoever among the Gentiles did Believe and Call upon the Name of the Lord were saved no less than the Jews p. 34. This was the priviledge of the Gentiles no less than of the Jews to have this word so near unto them as to be in the Mouth and in the Heart That these Gentiles who did call upon ☞ the Name of the Lord and were saved were not under any outward Administration of the Gospel is most evident from the objection framed by the Apostle v. 14 15. and his answer thereunto p. 35. Compare with Truth Advanced p. 70. cited above The hearing that Faith comes by he tells us p. 36. is the hearing by the word even that Word that was in their Mouth and Heart And a little lower as a Comment upon those Words They have not all obeyed he bids us mark the Apostle doth not say They have not all obeyed the law of Nature or the Light of Nature but they have not all Obeyed the Gospel so that the very Gospel adds he hath been Preached unto all otherwise they should never have been charged with not having Obeyed it But I put him to prove that the History of Christ his Conception Birth Crucifixion Resurrection and Ascension hath ever been Preached to all either Explicitely or Implicitely seeing he saith the very Gospel hath been And Secondly That whether where the very Gospel hath been received or that which he here calls the very Gospel the Holy Ghost hath not been given The Gentiles were not so cast off of God but that they had the same Mercy as had the Jews in relation unto the Chief and Substantial thing They the Scriptures point unto some Manifestation of him in and among the Gentiles in all Ages sufficient unto Salvation p 56. Kiss the Son lest he be angry Now that they are bid to Kiss the Son doth plainly import that the Son was held forth and given unto them of the Father in ' true Love that they might Kiss him i. e. that they might enjoy him which doth again infer that there was such a Manifestation of the Son let forth unto them which was sufficient into Salvation else How could they be required to Kiss him if he were not offered and made manifest unto them And how could he be offered unto the Gentiles to Kiss him if it were impossible for them so to do p. 57. if G. K. will not believe himself who doth he think will believe him But to proceed Christ in Scripture is called the Salvation of God which was in some measure made known or manifest in them though not as to the OUTWARD NAME yet the Power Light and Life p. 58. What though they knew not the outward Name if they knew the Nature the Spirit the Life which slays Sin and cures the Soul It is not the meer outward Name that saves but the Life the Power of Christ that Quickens Cleanses Purifies and by this they might be saved For it is the Life that saveth Rom. 5. 10. p. 115. How often hath G. K. of late been uneasie under this Doctrine as if it Depreti●ted what our Lord did and suffered in the outward And in his Further Discovery p. 10. he calls a Friend Bold Ignorant Soul for Preaching That the Blood which cleanseth from all Sin ●as the Life and the Life is the Light calling a perverse Exposition And the Reason seems to be because the Friend said it Had G. K. said it it mought have past for Authentick or he hath said the same That the knowledge of him Christ at in the outward is of necessity unto Salvation we grant not save ONLY where it is Revealed and there it is very useful and comfortable p. 117. Compare with the Quotation out of Further Discovery page 16. above From our common Adversaries allowing that Children may be saved G. K. infers Why may not also some Men who are as it were but Children and Infants even Babes in Christ as to Spiritual Knowledge he saved without that clear distinct Knowledge of his outward coming being born of his Spirit c. p. 117. This he speaks of the Gentiles as will be obvious to any that consult the Book for it immediately follows the Quotation above That which I observe is this That here he allows them to be Babes in Christ Born of the Spirit but in his Truth Advanced p. 70. Cornelius is denied to have had the Holy Ghost in his Gentile State Are Babes in Christ who are Born of the Spirit without the Spirit Or is not their Food Spiritual to wit the sincere Milk of the Word But this Man must be made manifest To that end hear him again He Christ left not the other Nations destitute of the MAIN and PRINCIPAL thing even the manifestation of the Light c. which would have given them the Knowledge of God and of all his Laws and Statutes NEEDFULL to be known by them had they improved the same aright And seeing it hath been so in times past why may it not be so now p. 120. Let G. K. answer his own Question if he can Though the outward Teachings which proceed from the Light are truly profitable yet are they not of such absolute necessity as if God and Christ could not be known where the outward occasions of hearing are wanting p. 121. Thus G. Keith one while asserting that Faith in Christ as he Died Rose again Ascended c. is indispensably necessary to all another while that Men have been saved without it which upon what hath been premised I leave with the Reader whether it hath not been sufficiently proved upon him puts me in mind of an Observation a Friend made viz. That he knew not what could palliate it but the strange Notion of the Revolution of Humane Souls which makes it more than probable that they shall have opportunity one time or other before the end of the world of Hearing this Faith and Doctrine Preached and may receive it though now they Die without it But this point adds he must be tenderly touched now because few are ripe for it yet how far he G. K. hath countenanced it is known to many See State of the Case p. 12. Yet I remember also how stoutly G. K. confuted him by telling him he was extreamly Ignorant had neither the true Faith nor a true Notion
Christ his coming in the Flesh or God made manifest in Flesh in that prepared Body which was Crucified at Jerusalem and afterwards raised up again and Glorified And this same Doctrine the Quakers Preach saith he We acknowledge no other Christ but the one only and true Christ Jesus the Son of David our only Saviour We do most faithfully believe and acknowledge Jesus Christ to be true and perfect God and true and perfect Man and that the Nature and Substance of his God-head is not the Nature and Substance of his Manhood His Manhood is not his God-head nor is his God-head his Manhood yet that Man Christ is God by reason of the most wonderful Union betwixt the two Natures p. 82. Again We hold forth no other Christ Jesus but the same that all the Saints believed in and was of Mary and David according to the Flesh and before them and the Father and Lord of them according to the Spirit who is the Saints hiding place in all Ages as it is written Isa 32. 2. And the Man to wit the Man Christ shall be as an hiding place p. 152. And thus I have gone through the Eight particular Charges saith G. K. wherewith he hath so falsly Charged us and in plainness and simplicity of Heart declared OUR Belief concerning them and how that we own the true Christ as true and perfect God and as true and perfect Man who as concerning the Flesh was the Son of David and of Mary but yet was before Mary and David and all Men who is the Son of God blessed for evermore p. 167 168. To these I might add Quotations out of two Books more the one written by himself and some of Rhode Island called The Christian Faith of the People called Quakers c. Printed Anno 1692. which was since he began to be litigious the other by himself singly the same Year 1692. in answer to Cotton Mather Entituled A Serious Appeal wherein the Quakers are cleared as Orthodox in their Faith concerning Christ his Conception Birth Resurrection Ascension Intercession and coming again to Judgment even in those very things he would now render us Heterodox in But of this a hint is enough inasmuch as the Reader may find it more at large in my late Treatise called An Apostate Exposed only one comprehensive Passage I may not omit viz. in Serious Appeal p. 7. According to the best Knowledge I have saith G. K. there of the People called Quakers and these most generally owned by them as Preachers and Publishers of their Faith of unquestioned esteem among them and worthy of double Honour as many such there are I know none that are guilty of any one of such Heresies and Blasphemies as he accuseth them And to enforce it that he mought not be thought to speak at random he adds a little lower I think I should know and do know these called Quakers and their Principles far better than Cotton Mather or any or all his Brethren having been Conversant with them in Publick Meetings as well as in Private Discourses with the most Noted and Esteemed among them for about 28 years past and that in many places of the World in Europe and for these divers years in America Now doth not this manifest great hardness that a Man who had so large so long so near and intimate Converse both Private and Publick with the most Noted and Esteemed among Friends for so many years and had so lately defended them and their Christian Testimony should now all of a sudden give the lye to all this and which is more deduce some of his pretended Probations out of those very Books which among others he had so newly commended and recommended But he against whom G. K. is risen up taketh the Wise in their own Craftiness and the Councel of the Froward is carried headlong Job 5. 13. Thus far upon the first Head now to the second viz. his Declaration of his Belief wherein he is inconsistent with his latter Pretences 1. Concerning the Benefit of Christ's Inward Coming in the first place and that it saves where the Outward is unknown This he Objects against Friends Nameless Bull p. 11. and saith Seeing this true Faith is wrought in God's ordinary way by Preaching therefore the true Faith of Christ's Death and Sufferings ought to be one of the First and chiefest things that every true Minister ought to Preach and build up his Hearers in in order to bring them to Communion with God and Christ in Spirit and that they may Witness God and Christ to dwell in them and rule in them One great Quarrel he had against Friends in America was about the sufficiency of the Light he having said That the Light is not sufficient to Salvation without something else And he urges in his Plea p. 23. That if the Man Christ Jesus be our real Saviour and that his Death Resurrection Ascension and Mediation for us without us in Heaven hath any part in our Salvation then the Light doth not save us without somewhat else Other Instances of the like kind may be seen p. 12. and 17. of his Seasonable Information Now although we do not in the least undervalue what our Lord did and suffered in that prepared Body but acknowledge as G. K. hath been often told the blessed effects thereof towards all Mankind whereby to reinstate them in God's Favour lost by Transgression yet whether that Faith were indispensibly necessary to all Mankind and that none could be saved without it though they had not the Means Opportunity or Capacity to know or receive it is what Sam Jennings tells us State of the Case p. 11. was their debate there but G. K. denies it however it is ours here And in order thereto I am now examining what G. K. hath formerly said concerning the Benefit of the inward how the outward may be savingly known how most edifyingly Preached and the sufficiency of the Light desiring my Reader to remember that even now I quoted G. K. that the true Faith of Christs Death and Sufferings ought to be one of the first and chiefest things that every true Minister ought to preach I shall begin with his Way to the City of God Printed Anno 1678. There he saith page 3. The Knowledge of his Christs inward Coming is that which is the more needful and in the FIRST PLACE as being that by which the true and comfortable use of his outward Coming is ALONE sufficiently understood And p. 125. Through the Coming of Jesus Christ thus in the inward even before he was outwardly Come or manifest many were SAVED and attained unto PERFECT Peace and Reconciliation with God in their Souls Again in p. 152 153 154 155. Though express Knowledge of his Christs outward Coming Sufferings and Death is very profitable to beget Faith and Love in Men towards God as aforesaid and ought to be HIGHLY VALUED IN ITS PLACE nevertheless this express Knowledge is not of absolute Necessity unto