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A27112 Certamen religiosum, or, A conference between the late King of England and the late Lord Marquesse of Worcester concerning religion together with a vindication of the Protestant cause from the pretences of the Marquesse his last papers which the necessity of the King's affaires denyed him oportunity to answer. Bayly, Thomas, d. 1657? 1651 (1651) Wing B1507; ESTC R23673 451,978 466

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be_v carry_v thither_o by_o angel_n and_o therefore_o it_o shall_v rather_o be_v heaven_n then_o hell_n 2._o it_o be_v a_o place_n of_o comfort_n luke_n 16._o 25._o but_o 99_o austin_n can_v not_o find_v he_o say_v with_o all_o his_o search_n where_o the_o scripture_n do_v make_v hell_n to_o be_v any_o place_n of_o comfort_n and_o he_o think_v this_o a_o good_a argument_n why_o abraham_n bosom_n can_v not_o be_v hell_n 3._o there_o be_v a_o great_a gulf_n fix_v betwixt_o the_o place_n where_o lazarus_n be_v viz._n abraham_n bosom_n and_o the_o place_n where_o the_o rich_a man_n be_v in_o torment_n luke_n 16._o 26._o and_o hence_o also_o 99_o austin_n infer_v that_o abraham_n bosom_n
and_o bellarmine_n pretend_v that_o athan._n the_o chaldie_n paraphra_v and_o the_o rabbin_n do_v expound_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gehinnom_n which_o signify_v the_o place_n where_o the_o damn_a be_v in_o torment_n but_o 1._o if_o it_o be_v so_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o that_o limbus_n which_o they_o contend_v for_o 2._o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o those_o author_n do_v usual_o so_o expound_v the_o word_n for_o the_o chaldie_n paraphra_v for_o the_o most_o part_n keep_v the_o hebrew_n word_n sheol_n itself_o only_o sometime_o it_o be_v a_o little_a change_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shiol_n and_o many_o time_n do_v he_o use_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d kebura_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d keburta_fw-mi that_o be_v the_o grave_a to_o express_v the_o hebrew_n sheol_n by_o or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o in_o effect_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v keburta_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n the_o house_n of_o the_o grave_a as_o job._n 7._o 9_o and_o 14._o 13._o and_o 17._o 13._o and_o 16._o psal_n 89._o 48._o and_o 141._o 7._o and_o eccles_n 9_o 10._o in_o all_o these_o place_n do_v the_o chaldie_n pharaphra_v render_v the_o hebrew_n word_n sheol_n the_o grave_n or_o the_o house_n of_o the_o grave_n let_v any_o romanist_n show_v that_o he_o render_v it_o so_o often_o by_o that_o word_n which_o signify_v the_o place_n of_o torment_n though_o as_o i_o say_v before_o that_o be_v nothing_o to_o their_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la and_o thus_o also_o do_v the_o rabbin_n interpret_v the_o word_n sheol_n r._n levi_n say_v that_o sheol_n do_v signify_v the_o grave_a and_o that_o therefore_o it_o be_v put_v for_o death_n 2_o sam._n 22._o 6._o 10._o so_o also_o r._n nathan_n mordecai_n in_o his_o hebrew_a concordance_n say_v that_o the_o interpretation_n of_o sheol_n be_v the_o grave_a aben_n ezra_n also_o say_v the_o same_o in_o his_o commentary_n on_o gen._n 37._o 35._o and_o moreover_o he_o tax_v the_o vulgar_a latin_a 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when_o man_n body_n be_v bury_v 138._o their_o soul_n descend_v into_o hell_n which_o descent_n the_o lord_n to_o prove_v himself_o true_a man_n do_v not_o refuse_v the_o word_n also_o of_o s._n peter_n do_v confirm_v this_o exposition_n viz._n that_o hell_n in_o which_o christ_n soul_n be_v but_o be_v not_o leave_v be_v the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a or_o the_o power_n of_o death_n who_o god_n have_v raise_v up_o have_v loose_v the_o pain_n of_o death_n because_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a that_o he_o shall_v be_v hold_v of_o it_o for_o david_n speak_v concern_v he_o etc._n etc._n act_v 2._o 24._o etc._n etc._n to_o prove_v that_o christ_n can_v not_o be_v hold_v by_o death_n be_v 〈◊〉_d still_o keep_v under_o the_o power_n of_o it_o peter_n allege_v the_o word_n of_o david_n concern_v christ_n thou_o will_v not_o leave_v my_o soul_n in_o hell_n therefore_o christ_n not_o be_v leave_v in_o hell_n signify_v nothing_o else_o but_o it_o be_v not_o be_v leave_v under_o the_o power_n of_o 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pag._n 114._o proper_o read_v pious_o p._n 121._o deceive_v r._n decease_a p._n 122._o saw_n r._n slay_v p._n 123._o work_n r._n rock_n p._n 124._o that_o r._n not_o p._n 136._o supposition_n r._n suspicion_n p._n 166._o patres_fw-la lege_fw-la fratres_fw-la p._n 205._o reply_n r._n rely_v p._n 214._o thy_o merit_n r._n my_o merit_n ibid._n die_v r._n do_v nomen_fw-la l._n nomine_fw-la p._n 215._o discente_fw-la l._n dicente_fw-la p._n 222._o so_o say_v the_o translator_n etc._n etc._n that_o have_v reference_n to_o those_o word_n some_o may_v and_o indeed_o do_v say_v etc._n etc._n ibid._n inevitable_a r._n inevitable_o be_v be_v blot_v out_o be_v p._n 230._o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v add_v these_o word_n consider_v mankind_n as_o corrupt_v he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v p._n 231._o fasten_v r._n fashion_v p._n 235._o be_v affirm_v r._n we_o affirm_v p._n 252._o to_o r._n do_v p._n 262._o like_n r._n living_n p._n 291._o lombard_n who_o blot_v out_o who_o errata_fw-la in_o the_o second_o part._n pag._n 26._o this_o same_o r._n the_o same_o p._n 40._o at_o least_o r._n at_o further_a p._n 45._o commend_v r._n contend_v contend_v it_o be_v publish_v anno_fw-la 1649._o 1649._o see_v the_o advertisement_n to_o the_o reader_n perfix_v to_o the_o late_a king_n work_v set_v forth_o together_o in_o one_o volume_n volume_n it_o be_v entitle_v as_o i_o remember_v herba_fw-la parietis_fw-la or_o the_o wall-flower_n wall-flower_n hamon_n l'estrange_n esquire_n arch._n of_o christ_n personal_a reign_n on_o earth_n page_n 50._o and_o 55._o mede_n on_o revel_n 11._o 7._o qui_fw-la in_o historiarum_fw-la ecclesiasticarum_fw-la lectione_n versati_fw-la sunt_fw-la christiani_n populi_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la &_o romanae_fw-la sedis_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la simul_fw-la auctam_fw-la facilè_fw-la animadvertere_fw-la potuerunt_fw-la vicissimque_fw-la ut_fw-la bonarum_fw-la literarum_fw-la instauratione_fw-la facessere_fw-la caepit_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o 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