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A27001	The Quakers catechism, or, The Quakers questioned, their questions answered, and both published for the sake of those of them that have not yet sinned unto death and of those ungrounded novices that are most in danger of their seduction / by R[i]chard Baxter.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.	1655 (1655)	Wing B1363; ESTC R28362	39,590	58

almost only of This Inward Light In which I perceived 1. That you falsly intimate that we deny the necessity of an inward light when as we maintain that the external light of the Word alone is not sufficient without the inward light of the Spirit 2. You there intimate to us a supposed sufficiency of the inward light that every man in the world hath Concerning which I shall say more anon and now only demand of you 1. Whether you mean it is sufficient to leave men without excuse That we maintain as well as you or is every mans light sufficient to his salvation If so Q. 2. Was it sufficient before Christ preached the Gospel and sent his Apostles Or is it now sufficient to all that never heard the Gospel If so Is not the Gospel a vain and needlesse thing or are you Christians that dare so affirm Q. 3. If the world have sufficient light what need they your teaching or discourse or conviction Q. 4. If all have sufficient light within them what need there any converting grace Q. 5. Then why did Christ send Paul to open mens eyes and to turn them from darknesse to light if they had sufficient light before Act. 26. 18. Q 6. I pray you do not disdain to tell me when you have rub'd your eyes if all men have sufficient light within them Why you got up into the Judgement seat and pronounced me so oft to be in darknesse and to be void of the light and to have none of the Spirit If all have it why may not I have it But let me tell you further in your ear that we that you so frantickly bawl against have read Bellarmine and other Papists so oft that we cannot be ignorant who are your Teachers though your selves are ignorant We know how earnestly the Jesuites would perswade us that there is a light in every mans conscience which if he improve and husband well God is bound to give such additions as shall make it become saving and that by the good use of natural light men may certainly get supernatural and that it is in mens own power what light soever they have to improve it to salvation Your 11th Query is Whether we have seen Gods face Ans. Whether these be Learning or Teaching or quarrelling or doting Questions I leave to your consideration but what Call you had to propound them to such Serpents Dogs and Children of the devil as you call us I know not But however I 'le answer you truly 1. By the eye of reason I have seen that there is a God and that he is infinite incomprehensible most great and most good c. 2. The same I have seen more cleerly by the eyes of faith 3. But I never saw God by the eye of flesh for none can so see God and live Nor hath any man seen God at any time saving the only begotten Son who is in the bosome of his Father he hath declared him 4. Nor have I seen him in glory intuitively or as the glorified in heaven do If you say you have seen more I shall not be very forward to beleeve you till I see better fruits of it I also therefore demand of you Whether he that hath seen God do not abhor himself as Iob did in dust and ashes and whether the true knowledge of God do not ever abase the soul and make a man very mean in his own eyes And then is it likely that ever those men had the true knowledge of God who make it their businesse to exalt themselves as having the Spirit and beign perfect without sin and to revile and bedung other men with their reproaches as being all the Children of the devil and of darknesse that be not of their strain and rave not as they do The Pharisee that thanked God he was not as other men nor as the Publicane spoke humbly and modestly in comparison of you and yet was he counted a proud self-justifier If ever you come to the least saving sight of God it will mightily change the proud strain of your spirits and make you abhor the thoughts of your present evil waies Your 12. Query is Whether we have the same infallible Spirit as the holy men of God had that spoke forth the Scriptures Ans. Why must you know this Are all Dogs and Serpents with you that have not that Infallible Spirit But we hear the croakings of your Papist guides in that word Infallible that's the pillar of their Kingdom and the master-point of their New Religion That their Church is infallible For denying which Knot the Jesuite against Chillingworth and a late ●otable gawdy Orator S. W. against Dr Hammond and others of them would fain perswade us that we subvert Christianity and are little better then Infidels because we are not Infallible But I will answer you and your Masters together in a word 1. The Prophets and Apostles had infallible Inspirations of new matters of divine verity not before revealed because they were to be Gods penmen and Messengers of such New Revelations I have none such that I know of 2. The Prophets and Apostles were guided infallibly in the manner as well as the matter so that every word that they wrote to the Churches was infallibly true I have no such Infallibility nor your Grandfather the Pope neither He may erre while he pretendeth to the greatest Infallibility in deciding Controversies 3. What man soever he be in the world that beleeves any Truth he doth infallibly believe it For he that is in the right is not deceived so far and he that is not mistaken is so farre infallible which is no more then non fallitur 4. But if by Infallibility you should mean the clearnesse and subjective Certainty as distinct from the objective and the bare truth of our conceptions then I say that 's another thing then Infallibility and not to be so called and of that Certainty men have different degrees All true Christians are certain of their Fundamentals yet sometime with some doubting so that they may finde cause to say with the Apostles Lord Increase our Faith or We beleeve help thou our unbelief But in lesser controverted Points which Salvation dependeth not on the best man on earth may erre much more be uncertain So that in a word Every Church in sensu composite while a Church is infallible in the essentials of Christianity and so is every true Christian And also they know infallibly every other truth that indeed they know because Truth is Truth whether they know it or not and when they do know it they are not deceived But in many things we all erre because we know but in part and so farre are deceived Well I say still Fair fall the honest humble Christian that will confesse with Paul that we know but in part For I shall never like pretenders to un-erring Infallibility more I know but two such pretenders and they are both the most abominable deceivers and deceived

such Relations or honour or respect But if you were not hypocrites you would plainly speak this out and then people would better understand you when you tail as Ministers for-being called Masters But for the sake of those among you that are not past recovery I will tell you that which it seemeth you know not The Pharisees had their severall Schools Sects as the Philosohpers had and every one gloried in his Disciples and those Disciples in their own Sect-masters One cried up such a man and another such a man insomuch as sometimes the followers of these several Sect-masters would fall together by the ears and kill each other in the Temple and in the streets while they contended for their Masters honours And look what faith the Master was of the Scholars must all be of his faith They must take their belief on trust from him These leading men that were the Masters of their Schools and sects whom none must contradict were called by the Jews Rabbi's and Fathers as the Papists now call their Bishop The Pope which signifieth A Father because as children must be wholly ruled by the Fathers so would the Pharisees have their Disciples to be by them be the matter right or wrong Just thus do the Papists require that the people beleeve as the Church beleeves that is the Pope and his Consistory whatever it be and tell us that they are infallible as being guided by the infallible Spirit and therefore we must believe them by an implicit faith Now the Lord Jesus meeteth with these Pharisees and commandeth his disciples That they call no man on earth Father or Rabbi or Master as the Pharisees were called that is To have no such absolute Master of your Religion or Lord of your faith because we have all one such Absolute Father which is God and one such absolute Master which is Christ This is the very same thing that Paul meant when he chides them for saying I am of Paul and I am of Apollo as if Christ were divided or Paul had been crucified for them 1 Cor. 1. 13. And it 's the same thing that Peter means 1 Pet. 5. 1 2 3. where he giveth Ministers the honourable Title of Elders and Overseers and Pastors and bids them oversee and feed the flock of God but yet forbids them doing it as Lords over Gods heritage because the heritage is Gods and Christ is the chief Shepherd Paul cals a Bishop the Steward of God Tit. 1. 7. One that must rule the Church 1 Tim. 1. 4 5. and 5. 17. and saith He that desires the Office of a Bishop desires a good work 1 Tim. 3. 1. But yet he would not have them taken for absolute Masters of Christs School but as Christs ushers and as Stewards in his House Let a man so account of us as the Ministers of Christ and Stewards of the mysteries of God 1 Cor. 4. 1. neither more nor lesse There are divers words in the Greek tongue which the Gospel was wrote in which we translate by one word Master but if our language be more scarce of words then the Greek it doth not follow that Christs words are all one The word here used in Matthew is {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} and elsewhere {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} which is as much as the chief Leader of the way or the Sect-master What if this be forbidden is all Mastership therefore forbidden because this one is The word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} is translated Master too and sometime a Teacher I pray you consider here your most ignorant and sottish dealing The Gospel was not written by the Apostles in English but in Greek Because one word signifieth a Teacher and a Master such as a Schoolmaster is and our Translators sometime translate it a Teacher and sometime a Master you impudently cry out that one of them is not Scripture and yet yield that the other is When in the Greek they are the same word as you may see it used in Eph. 4. 11. Luk. 2. 46. 1 Tim. 2. 7. 2 Tim. 1. 11. Acts 13. 1. 1 Cor. 12. 28. Mat. 10. 24. Luk. 6. 40. Heb. 5. 12. Iam. 3. 1. In all which places the holy Ghost useth the word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} though we English it sometime Masters sometime Teachers and sometime Doctors yet it is all one word in the language that the Scripture was written in and therefore Scripture alloweth one as much as another And if you will stick to the English you may finde the word Master used oft enough And if it be lawfull for another man why not for a Minister Tit. 2. 9. 1 Pet. 2 18. 1 Tim. 6. 1 2. Col. 3. 22. and 4. 1. Eph. 6. 5 9. Though the word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} signifieth such a Mastership as Ministers of Christ will not own as Ministers though over their hired Servants they may own it It may be you think Paul crossed Christs rule and was a false Prophet because he cals himself a wise Master-builder 1 Cor. 3. 10. Or do you think that the holy Ghost did erre when he called Teachers The Masters of the Assemblies Eccl. 12. 11. That the Spirit is no enemy to Titles of honour you may see in 1 Pet. 3. 6. where Sarah is commended for obeying Abraham and calling him Lord And Act. 26. 25. Paul calleth Festus Most Noble Festus and calleth Agrippa King Agrippa Act. 26. 2 26 27. And Rom. 12. 10. We are commanded In honour to prefer one another So that it 's one mans duty to give those Titles which another may not ambitiously seek For my part I will gladly make this agreement with you I will never wish any man to call me Master nor be displeased with any that doth not on that account if this will satisfie you But then I confesse I dare not condemn them that use so much civility or respect because Gods Word is of more esteem with me then your most confident fancies and reproaches By this time me thinks I may well take leave to salute you with this Query Whether that man be not void of the fear of God and given over to a seared Conscience that dare go up and down to rail against the most faithfull and painfull Ministers of Christ whom they are not able to charge with any crime but humane frailties and that because they are called Masters and all this upon meer sottish ignorance of the Scripture that so commonly useth and alloweth the Title All that I could get to all this from your Prater Tho. Goodier that was here was but this I deny thy Greek and Hebrew if the Scripture be truly translated which is but to say I deny the words of Christ and the Apostles For ●●e translating there are many words in the Original Language which have not so many and apt in English to expresse them by Translating excludeth not the necessity of explicating And

which it replied to and yet so farre belived those that bad that he owned his Name at it Having received in your first Letters almost nothing but some Sheets of Thou Serpent Viper thou Childe of the Devil thou Son of perdition thou dumb dog thou false hireling thou false Liar Deceiver greedy dog thou ravening Wolf thou cursed hypocrite with much more of the like I returned you no Reply as confessing my self not so well skilled in that language and learning as you are And for the dunghil-heaps of false accusations annexed I passe them by as being well known to be impudent slanders Such as my upholding acoursed Prelatical Government false worship c. for which you dare say the vengance of the Lord is against me while you instance only one word of a Paper of mine wherein I moved that men be restrained from preaching against the Essentials or Foundamentals of Christianity which one of you tels me is a restraining men from speaking any more in Christs name and a persecuting Christs Ministers we may see what Christianity and Christs Ministers are in your account who take it for such damnable enmity to Christ for a man to be restrained from Preaching that there is no Christ or from reproaching him I doe not think if I had desired that men should be restrained from calling you damnable Hereticks or the Bastards of the Papists that you would have been so froward as to have said that herein I was your Enemy Nor do I think you would have taken it for any dangerous restraint to the Liberty of their Consciences But Christ will deal justly with you though you deal unjustly with him and his When your Praters were here I desired to know the further ground of all these heavy accusations that must prove me a childe of the devil a greedy dumb dog a Son of perdition with all the rest And I could have no proof of all but this That I was called Master That I stood in a high place to preach and that I studied and that I preached by an hour-glasse and so would limit the Spirit if I had it and that I took money for Tythes False doctrine and worship I was charged with in general but not one word of instance in any particular that I can remember To these charges I shall give you some account anon When I had received your 24 Queries I sent you my Answer that if you would but subscribe your consent that I should come to your meeting and answer them all by word of mouth without disturbance and you would receive what was made plain to your selves to be the Truth I was willing to come over to that end This motion you detest and reject with a Sheet of further Revilings in the same-language as the first were I hope you will not take it ill if I reply not in that grinning or barking Rhetorick For if I be a dumb dog you cannot expect that I should equal you in snarling or barking or howling But have you not bewraied your deceitfulnesse in refusing to consent that I should come and answer your Questions Do not you shew by this that you are children of the Darkenesse and the Works of darknesse you are carrying on When you hate the Light because your Deeds are Evil Why would you send me Queries which you would not give me leave to answer by Speech What was it that you feared But in stead of this you charge and command me in the Name of the most high God to answer them in writing that you may publish them with your Reply if need be But when I desired to see the Commission by which you claim this Authority you shew me none but tell me It is invisible And may not all the world command me on these terms as well as you In stead of admitting me to answer in your Congregation some of you came over taking a time when the Lord had shut me up by sicknesse and could not go to the publique meeting to make a disturbance in our Assembly Mar. 25. and to try your Rhetorick on the mindes of People in this place whereupon it pleased the Magistrate to binde one of you to the good behaviour for the publique Disturbance and railing at the Magistrate And upon this you send another paper with an outcry against us as persecutors when you might know that I was not concerned in the businesse and when indeed no man did so much as once ask my advice in it But as for them that did it I dare no more accuse them of persecution then I dare accuse them for persecution who shall burn a Thief in the hand Alas what impatient soules are you to cry out so much of persecution when many a poor-scold is duck in the Gumble-stool for words more incomparably sweet and Lamb-like then yours I shall now come to say somewhat to your Papers and first give you a word of my reason why I may not answer them so punctually in order and word by word as you command me to do 1. Because I dare not be guilty of losing so much precious time 2. Because I have much more profitable work to do though you accuse me for Idlenesse because I do not dig or thresh when yet your Praters when they were here did neither dig nor thresh any more then I nor do I hear that they do elsewhere as they follow their seducing imployment 3. Because you have heapt up non-sence vain repetitions and confusions so as to answer you accordingly would be of small use to any and would but prove me to be like your selves Many more Reasons I overpasse There is not a scold in all the Countrey but may as honestly and reasonably command me in the Name of God to come and scold with them in the Market-place as you may Command me thus to answer your scurrilous scolding Papers Yet you shall have no Cause to complain that I have overpassed any thing that 's worthy to be regarded YOur first Query is What 's the first Principle of the pure Religion To which I answer 1. That God is and next that he is a Rewarder of them that diligently seek him Heb. 11. 6. 2. Do you ask this as Learners No that you renounce Or as Teachers Why then do you not shew your Commission to teach And why do you not plainly Teach but ask Questions Or do you ask it for matter to feed your prating and slandring Your second Query is Whether they are a Church of Christ that beat and persecute them that witnesse forth the Truth in his Name c. Answ. Doubtlesse it 's possible for a true Church to be guilty of injuries But you have as little cause to put this Question as the Turk hath What would you answer if a Iew or a Turk or a Witch should put this Question Is it a true Church that persecuteth them that witnesse the truth Surely it 's nothing to you who witnesse abominable falshoods and dreames 2.