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A04491 A dialoge describing the originall ground of these Lutheran faccions, and many of their abuses, compyled by syr William Barlow chanon, late byshop of Bathe; Dyaloge descrybyng the orygynall ground of these Lutheran faccyons, and many of theyr abusys Barlow, William, d. 1568. 1553 (1553) STC 1462; ESTC S101046 40,661 178

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go from hys opynyon Wherefore after a sufficient delyberation seynge he woulde tourne by no meanes sentence was geuen that he shoulde be burned N. In good faythe well worthy but was he burned in deede W. No. For when he shoulde haue gone to the place of execution accordynge to the vsaunce of the countrye he was first brought before the towne howse and there his artycles recyted He was asked whether they were the very same which he hadde affyrmed before them He aunswered ye Howbeit nowe he sayd God hath opened my ignoraunce I acknowlege me slaunderousely to haue erred askynge you all forgyuenes I beleue perfytely that Jesus Chryst is my sauyour and am redy in his fayth to suffre thys deth prepared for me The lordes then where as they had giuen sentence that he shuld haue ben burned for a more easye deth they assigned him to be be hedyd whereof he thanked thē and went towarde the place of iustyce patiently takynge hys death with great repentaunce N. This may be a good admonisshment that men shoulde not be so wauerynge in fayth as to geue credence in all thinges to any persone for the onely pretence of exterioure holines in as muche as the deuyll can transfygure hym selfe into an angels lykenes and a false peruerter take vppon hym the offyce of a trewe Apostle Moreouer I consider by your cōmunicacyon and playne experyence here rehearsed that yf the frowarde sturdynes of vnruly people were not restrayned by lawes prohibitions sharpe punyshmentes euery common weale woulde be sone subuerted and the whole world come to noughte W. As for that ye may take example not farre hens at the county of Emdone in East Fryselande where the earle ruler of the county fyrste receyuyng Martyn Luthers doctryne afterwarde Oecolampadius opynion suffered his people to read all maner of Bookes and to be of what so euer secte or opynion they would without any restraynt Shortelye after one of theyr cheife preachers whiche hadde bene a freer obseruante a man of subtyle learnynge and pleasaunt speache hyghlye estemed among the people beganne to preache in openne audience agaynst the blessed trinitie sayenge that there was but one person one God and that our Sauyour Christe was a creature as we are a pure man and not God but hauynge goddes spyryte This caused not a lyttle dyscorde betwene the preachers and the people for many of the country leaned vnto him takynge his parte so stronglye that the earle was fayne to banyshe hym oute of hys domynion all be it hys pestyferous sede remayned styl Then cam thither doctour Baltazar and after hym Carolstadius bryngynge in the faction of the Anabaptistes to y● augmentinge of greater confusiō For wher as some christened theyr chyldren theyr next neyghbours wolde not one condemnyng another with dedly hatred The meane ●eason a certayne skynner of Denmarke in the Dukedome of Holsatye where Martyne Luthers doctryne was onely in strength preched Oecolampadius opinion with so craftye argumentes that Martynes fame began to decreace Wherfore doctoure Pomerane was sent from Wyttenberge to dyspute agaynst hym and in conclusion obtayned the vyctorye throughe partiall fauoure as some reported of the duke and Lordes of the cytyes of Homburghe and Breame whyche immediatly commaunded that no man shulde be so hardye to contrarye or swerue from the doctryne of Martyn Luther vnder payne of banysshynge and other punysshement Thē two prechers of Breame were sent to Emdone to dyswade the earle his people from Oecolampadius opinion and from the confuse dyuersyte of other sectes also to reduce theym agayne vnto Martyn Luthers wayes The earle with his coūcell at theyr perswasyons alienated theyr mindes frō Oecolampadius streytely charging all those preachers whiche had susteyned his faction or anye other sauynge Martyn Luthers to departe oute of hys countrye by a certayne daye apoynted Then was it a wonder to se what murmuration grudge and rumoure of sedycion was amonge the people not withoute lykelyhed of fallynge together by the eares insurrection agaynste theyr prynce had not he sought prouydent meanes to pacyfy thē This cōtinued no longe space but letters came from Argentyne Basyle zyricke Bearne and from many persons of notable erudition after theyr estemynge also from the prynce of Hesse aduertisyng the earle wyth seryous exhortation to call home agayne the preachers of Oecolampadius factiō and reprehendyng his sodayn mutabylytie from theyr institute so apparente by manyfest coniectures to preuayle aboue the other At whose importune requestes and subtyle instygacyons he chaunged yet agayne hys purpose and gaue the Oecolampadian preachers licence to returne into theyr olde places and lybertie to preache as they were before accustomed commaunding silence vnto the other or elles auoydaunce of his countrye Lo thus may ye se what varyable inconstancye and sondry mutations of condemned heresyes hath ensued with euident confusion where as people be deuided from the v●itye of the christen church contemne to walke after the wholsome decrees of catholike fathers wrestynge the ryght sence of scryptures vnto theyr crooked ymaginacyons And specyallye where the brydle of sensualite is set at large to the sturdye frowardnes of sedicyous subiectes sometime by the effeminat tēdernes of princes so negligētly regarded y● afterwarde theyr fearfull rygour is scant able to redresse it which hath bene the lamentable dekay of the Boemes and is now the ruynous myscheife of the hye Almaynes not vnlykely to be the desolation of christendome yf remedy be not founde in season N. Sauynge your pacyence me thought ye declared here y● the Land graue of Hesse is a fauourer of Swinglius Oecolampadius who wyth his people as I vnderstande admytteth Martyn Luthers wayes and none other W. I wyll not denye but he maynteyneth styl Martyn Luthers doctryne albeit synce the dysputation was before hym he hath fauoured so greatlye the opynion of Oecolampadius and Swinglius y● were it not as I deme for feare of displeasynge hys confederate cosyne the duke of Saxony and frentyke perturbation of Martyn Luther he wolde haue sustayned it openlye ere this tyme. Wytnesse the gloryous comendation vnto their faces whiles they were present and synguler preferremēt of thē amonge hys famylyer counsellers also hys beneuolent lyberalytie at theyr departyng wyth letters afterward betwyxe thē farsed full of paynted prayses ī theyr absence N. I beseche you when and vnder what maner was thys dysputation W. In the yere of our Lord. 1528. the prince of Hesse in his cheife cyte of Marburge caused there to be assembled Martin Luther Melancton Oecolāpadius Swinglius Capito Butzer wyth many other of y● most famous clerkes of the Lutheranes and Oecolampadianes the Anabaptistes onely excluded where dyuers artycles were doubtfully proponed to y● nomber of .xv. whyche before tyme hadde bene discussed and clerely determyned in general counselles of the vnyuersall church And when they had by longe processe vnfrutefully disputed aboute the iustificacion of fayth without good works of baptysme and other questyons vpon
penaūce to be preached in remyssyon of synnes whiche maner of preachynge the aposties after his assention obserued contynuallye exhortynge the people vnto penaūce and to the drede of God whiche is the begynnynge of wysedome the inseparable companion of penaunce and necessaty introduction to fayth The worde of God bryngeth for the penance accordyng as we rede in the actes of the apostles .iii. the at saynt Peters preaching thei were compuncte in hearte and offred them selfe to pennaunce This vnfayned pennaunce leadeth men to faythe and is the entre to the gospel Mar. i. Do ye pennaunce sayth Christ and beleue the gospell Which beleif can not be attayned wythoute the dreade of God For it is the fulnes of scyence whereby we come downe first to know oure self so ascende to the knowlege of God by his word whereoute through hearynge fayth taketh her effect The maiestie of goddes worde is of that nature to prostrate the presumpcyon of mannes wysedome affyaunce in our selues exylyng thaffections of carnall liberte mouing vs wyth a readynes of minde certayne trimbling feare to say with saynt Paule Lorde what wyllest thou vs to doo Thys reuerent drede had Cornelius Centurio whan the ioyful messenger of God appeared vnto hym to whō with feare abashed he sayd Lorde who art thou in whose commendation it is written there Actes .x. that he was a deuout man and dreding god Likewise Luk. iij. y● shepe herdes whan y● aungell of glad tidinges appeared to them and y● brightues of God shone roūd about thē hauyng thys drede were astonnyed in them selues to whom the aungell spake Be not afrayd ●o I shew you great ioye that shall be to all people for there is borne a Sauyoure which is Christe oure lorde In Exodo it is wrytten .xiiii. y● people feared God and so beleued hym hys seruaunt Moyses And they that drede god sayth the wysemanne shall not be vnfaythfull to hys worde Alsoo Saynt John rehearseth in his Apocalypse sayinge I sawe an aungell flyenge by the myddes of heuen hauing the euerlastinge Gospell that he shoulde preach to the dwellers vppon yearthe to euery nacion trybe and tonge and people saying wyth a greate voyce Feare ye God But now cometh the aungell of Sathan wyth his ydle iustifycations and vayne promyses cleane contrarye perswading that we nede no workes of penaūce nor satysfaction for our synnes lyth Chryste hath satysfyed for vs all ready onely to beleue is ynoughe wythdrawynge people from the godly drede How be it leaste his disceate shulde be easelye perceaued he transfygureth hym selfe into a trewe angelles lykenes sometime tea chynge vertuouse maners brotherlye charyty the example of Christes actes oure nedefull accomplyshment of thē wherin he wolde seme to profyte a few to the intente he myght begyle many And dyuers of hys Disciples counterfeytyng the apostles fashyon other whyles alledge scryptures in theyr right sences with the same deuoute synceryte that Sathanne hym selfe dyd in temptynge Chryste when he sayd to him God hath commaunded his aungelles c whiche was the very scrypture truelye recyted all though to a wronge purpose But where as he in his owne person coulde not ouercome Christ our head he ceasseth not to supplante vs hys Christen members by hys false Disciples and is lyke styll to preuayle oure merytes deseruing the wrath of god excepte he of hys infinyte goodnes and gracyous pytie vouchesafe to reconcyle vs agayne vnto hys fauour and be oure protectour whose mercy is the onely staye that we be not all consumed Therefore lette vs drawe nere with confydence to the throne of grace the we may gette mercy and fynde grace to helpe vs at nede contynuallye hauynge in oure remembraunce the voyce of the aungel sayinge Feare ye God and geue hym honoure for the hour of iudgement commeth And worshyp ye hym that made heauen and yearth the sea and fountaynes of waters to whome be prayse for euer wythout ende Amen Fare ye well Nicholas Wyllyam NOw welcom good brother frōparties of beyonde the sea We haue sore longed for your safe retourne hopynge to heare some newes from oure Euangelyke brotherne of Germanye and in what maner the Gospell doeth prosper there and go forward W. Syr I thanke you for your welcommynge Howbeit concerynge your desyre to be certyfied of them whom ye call euangelyke bretherne I assure you vnfaynynglye that I lyke theyr maner euerye daye worse worse N. What haue ye so sodenly changed your mynd and begynne nowe to fall from the Gospell forsakyng Goddes worde W. Truelye I haue chaunged my mynde from exrours and wronge opinions but neuer entendynge to renye Goddes worde or Christes gospell whereof as farre as I can perceaue they be destitute and muche wyde N. To proue that it were impossible seyng ye can not denye but that they haue Chrystes Gospell in theyr vulgar speche imprēted fre for euery body to loke vpon with contynuall exercyse of euangelyke preachynge of Goddes worde W. In verye dede they haue the exteriour letter with some outwarde apparaunce of zeale towarde it But for all that as towchynge an euangelyke lyfe or a christen conuersation with faythfull fruytes behoueable to the same they be neuer a deale nerer in effecte than were the Jewes whyche woulde haue made Christe theyr kynge not for anye syncere loue that they had to folowe hym in vertuous lyuinge or for reuerence of hys godly worde but onelye in that they thought he would haue satisfied their carnall appetytes and seditious affections wherof to be auctoure he was afterwarde wrongfully suspect euē as we see now a dayes hys gospell euyll spoken vpon thorowe the sclaunderouse be haue oure wycked demeanour of them whom in contempt of good people ye call euangelike Christē brethren auauncynge them selues to be onelye the trewe folowers and obseruers of Christes gospell where as theyr lyuinge manifestly repugneth So that after my iudgemente the cheife captaynes of them may be lykened to Theudas Judas Act. v. which vnder a colour of Messias comynge the very sauiour and redemer from all bondage whose offyce wrongfully vsurpynge by false promyses of lybertye peruerted much people of the Jewes for to folowe thē to theyr vtter vndoyng and finall destruction N. These sedytious personnes to applye vnto Martyn Luther and his folowers is both agaynste the treuth witnes of your owne conscience yf ye duely examyne it For it is playne that thys Theudas and Judas of a presumptious affection and vnquyetnes of mynde wythoute auctorytie of Goddes worde or preferremente of hys honoure sedycyously moued the people to folow thē not God where as Martyn Luther with such other euangelike preachers auaunce not presumptuouselye them selues but god onely nother perswade the people to folowe them but Christe whose Gospell longe season obscured by mennes tradicions they labour to bryng vnto lyght and to restore the captyued conscyences of ignoraunte folke vnto the fredome of Goddes word whereof muche people nowe a dayes