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A78614 Envy's bitterness corrected with the rod of shame: Or, An answer to a book lately published by Richard Haines (a person withdrawn from) entituled, New lords, new laws; wherein is shewed such an image of envy, as in late ages have not appeared, by his heaping up false accusations, and abusive expressions to a great number, with malicious insinuations, thereby to provoke (if possible) the civil magistrate to have suspitious thoughts of the innocent, with a great out-cry of usurpation and tyranny, proved to have no other foundation but his own evil imaginations, and so, neither lords, nor new laws. : Wherein also the several persons therein accused, are in righteousness quitted, to the shame of the accuser. / By Matthew Caffyn ... Caffyn, Matthew, 1628-1714. 1674 (1674) Wing C206A; ESTC R173316 27,178 35

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speak my word faithfully what is the chaff to the VVheat saith the Lord And whereas he seemeth to render me as one faulty Pag. 9. For that I did not accept of an Offenders confessing of his offence for that 't was not from the heart I pretending as he saith to know the heart My answer is that from what appeared and doth yet appear I with the Congregation were and yet are dissatisfied with that person in respect of communion nor is that true touching this persons committing 〈◊〉 in my conceit many Years agoe the which as 't was a sin against God I could bare with but when he had sinned against my self then I could not For that 't was no more in my understanding save only suspition of sin from report and that not several Years agoe neither as he saith but some late report that lead me but no Further then into private enquiry without the least discovery on my part to the infamy of either of the persons concerned 'T is true that some endevours on my part have been to make discovery of sinners for which it may be feared that some hate me but none of the Godly and Truly gratious Souls but I consider that to lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate is no more then what the more worthy Prophets of the Lord have meet with Isa 29.21 But yet as to the creeping into a House and standing behind a wall to hear the discourse of some persons thereby to make discovery of sinners the Reader may observe that passing by the mistake of the Relation what thereof is true concerning me is no more then what the same disorderly person now abeting this man and the reporter thereof did before the discovery of his now transgressions speak in way of justification thereof as J. E. doth testifie being an eare witness And whereas the Relation supposeth some fear and mistrust of one of these persons 't is to be observed that accordingly in time it did appear that is some uncivil behaviour for which cause the person was kept out of communion some Years and also observable it is that the matter concerning which the Reflection is was about six Years agoe since which time both Richard Haines and the other disorderly person and the now reporter thereof have had long communion with the Congregation and yet is it far more evident that a malitious Spirit is the now Author of this Relation for that long agoe the reporter was told in the Congregation as also before when there the case was proposed by him that such a practice as he spoke of then and as is now printed was not justified nor allowed of neither by me nor any other The truth of which we the Congregation can testifie Moreover he declareth that he had b●●●●●●●●med that I did to evidence that self interest could 〈…〉 induce me thus to appear against him but rather t●●●●prehension of my duty towards God makes mention of his respects considerably large towards me and thereupon doth in a way much beneath Christianity if I may not say common humanity reflectingly say these words Pag. 35. To wit that he did always 〈◊〉 his contributions to one of the Deacons to be disposed thereof according to 〈◊〉 discretion and whether Bell devour'd all and the poor eate none and the Idol ignorant till of late from whence he had his belly full I know not To which we the persons S. L. D. P. receiving his contributions in in order to the disposing thereof do hereby testifie that as t is true we received some thing from him so also t is true that according to his direction the same was faithfully disposed of that is to say partly to the poor and partly to our brother Caffyn without the least shew given for this Reflection Nor had he cause to Reflect ingratitude upon me for that I could I suppose shew him the very place where it was signified but had there been somewhat really worthy of reproof the Reader may easily conclude that the time which his contributions now spoken of respects was while he was in fellowship with us which if so what may be the Reason of these publike reflections now and not the least suspition then signified I cannot conceive unless to gratifie the Spirit of malice and vain glory that doth as it were hereby blow a Trumpet of what formerly he hath done And whereas he also Further suggesteth to the Reader that I hold an errour concerning the Lord Jesus and that Mr. M. had VVrot something against it the Reader is to understand that the Title of the Book is but partly represented by Richard Haines to wit a cure for the Cankering errour Which being 〈…〉 presented is a Cure for the Cankering errour of the New Eutychians which errour at no time was nor yet is by me beleived nor do I as concerning the Lord Jesus nor any other point of Faith or religious Worship 〈…〉 then the very same 〈◊〉 was believeed 〈…〉 ●●●fessed when he for many Years 〈…〉 And if by his saying that I deny that Jesus Christ took his Flesh of the Virgin Mary he means that the Redemption of Mankind is no more pretious then the Death and Blood-sheding of a body of Flesh in the fallen Estate under Condemnation for Original sin and that was in the beginning of the Earth as the first Man Adam was then do I readily declare my dissent thereunto and so will in some respect the Author of that Book Mr. M. and most others But this I consent unto and verily believe that the true Messiah whom the Father hath sealed to be the Blessed Saviour of the World was conceived in the Virgin Mary and there took our Nature and our Form and so was in all points like unto his Brethren sin excepted the Son of Abraham the Son of David confessed to be while the first Man was of the Earth Earthey the second Man the Lord from Heaven 1. Cor. 15.47 Finally as it is true that there is many more great swelling words of Vanity proceeding from his troubled Spirit unanswered as if I were a friend to Popish infallability and had an unlimited power and admirable greatness and that knowingly purposedly and designedly I told a lye without making any mention wherein together with many other things unworthily and untruly charged too large here to repeat nor do I see material cause obliging me thereunto there being such a cloud of Witnesses 〈◊〉 his more then ordinary envy his malitious insinuations his bitter expressions his false accusati●●● 〈◊〉 ●is manifold reproaches cast upon me and 〈…〉 ●ot long since were judged by him as his 〈…〉 Pag. 2. most faithful most worthy 〈…〉 with a discovery of 〈…〉 regardlesness 〈…〉 Honour the 〈…〉 credit 〈…〉 good of Souls by this his publication 〈…〉 feared that 〈◊〉 is as 〈…〉 by 〈…〉 seems to 〈…〉 if 〈…〉 you my 〈…〉 then let me beg of you the●● 〈…〉 First That you all in Gods fear whose judgments are made manifest take heed of rejecting or sliting the admonition of Gods people as this poor man to his great injury hath done Secondly That you do in the sence of the great danger and deplorable condition he seems to be in pray for him that God may not lay all these things to his charge so as hereafter to suffer the due desert of the same
his Majesties Laws or Royal Prerogative as by him is suggested Nor is it true that Patents was at this meeting rendred odious as he would suggest nor that I could as freely have fellowship with an Idolator or an unclean person as with a man that should obtain a Patent the truth being only that his Patent in that particuler case thus circumstanced neither I nor others could bare with no more then other publick transgressions Nor had he reason to say That I with the advice of my adherents did all this Meeting enact by Vsurped Authority that none might buy or sell for him since no more is true of that Nature save only that in answer to one enquiring whether it might be safe for him to be concerned if desired in some one particular place to Trade in Buying and Selling that particular Seed for him who was thus defamed censored and evilly spoken of upon that account some very few did declare their present thoughts that it was not but that there was an agreement of the Assembly neither I nor others do know and that he that reported this matter unto R.H. was in the best sence imaginable mistaken is evident by our peaceable communion with his Servants that we well know Trades in Buying Selling cleansing if not also Buying the same Seeds for him and yet may this be published as a sign that his Brethren but a while ago Beloved and most faithful Brethren are now like unto the Antichristian Beast Ah poor peice of Envy The next thing considerable is that R. H. being formerly by several Friends perswaded to desist his design and he not being perswaded was afterwards desired to come to a Church Meeting to treat with our Friends thereabouts before he did endeavour the accomplishment of his design the which also being obstinately refused by him saying that we had nothing to do to meddle in such matters and so he prosecuting effectually his design at a Meeting some time after we desired him to appear he accordingly did appear where saith he we excommunicated him as a Sinner before we had proved him to have Transgressed any known Law In answer to which I say that sure I am there was some endeavours to convict him of his Sin and to prove his proceedings unwarrantable but that what we said appeared to him as good evidence or proof that he was a person so offending I cannot say I rather think that the love of Gain supposedly great in conjunction with his malice manifestly great might blind his eyes but what is his complaint against us herein more then the complaints of persons excommunicated very generally elsewhere And whereas he multiplieth many words of Lordly Vsurpation and Acts of Tyranny it may be observed that at this meeting there was also charged against him his unrighteous dealing with a man about a bargin of Clover the which then I did and still do believe deserved blame and in like manner 't was judged by the friends two persons only excepted whom I perceived not without some doubts in the case whereupon I condescended and so that case was omitted and one of those two persons was he of whom he abusively speaking in his Book saith that he would have a man damned for displeasing his Lord Caffyn rather then for displeasing the most High which if it had been true that I was thus Idolized by this friend then surely he would have pleased me in giving consent with me and others in the case or if it were true that I were such a Lordly Usurper as he would suggest surely then I should some way or other have constrained them or as he speaks threatned them into a consent but while he is thus speaking reproachfully of others worthy consideration it is whether himself did not act somewhat like an Usurper in that he called there as an offender would and it seems is yet greatly offended because he could not stop my mouth who as t is well known was concerned with the Congregation in the Congregations affairs so as that I might not speak in the discourse of the matter till he had first disputed with the brethren a ready way for seducing Spirits to corrupt assemblies while their Elders silently stand by without doing what is their duties to do even to defend the flock if such Usurping motions of transgressors might be gratified and whereas he saith pag. 5. that he was not suffered to treat with any of the Congregation nor they with him by reason of my perpetual interruption as they if they be honest will testifie VVe the Congregation in the honesty and uprightness of our hearts do testifie that R. H. did at that meeting reason with several of us and the only thing denyed by our brother Caffyn and yet no more by him then by our selves was only that unreasonable Vsurping request of him to stop our brother Caffyns mouth as aforsaid he being willing in himself and we seeing no cause to the contrary did many times as well as the rest of the assemblies offer something to the matter in hand which he not willing to allow though it no wayes savoured of Lordliness in him desiring it but rather of Lordliness in him denying it by that means a deal of obstruction we meet withal As touching our proceedings against him he the better to render it odious would have persons believe that I as a New Lord had made new Laws called by him also a new cheat namely that no person may offend the weak brethren in any case or oppose his Lordships design upon pain of Excommunication and further that when a man shall have a lawful right to do any thing in civil matters if any weak brethren should say they were offended with it it may not be suffered Pag. 20.21 But as one not content thus far to abuse us he further insinuateth that if the weak brethren should be offended with his Majesties Crown c. It being made of Gold they being already saith he offended with such professors as wear Gold according to our principle he must submit or be dealt with Pag. 22. And as if this were not enough to represent him weak indeed while he thus reproachfully speaks of the weak he further suggesteth that if a weak brother should cry unto him in a fair for a Ballard as a fairing and he should offend him by not answering his request by our Law though in truth it be his own evil imaginations he saith thereby he may incur an Excommunication Pag. 28. Oh how is Wisdom turned into folly and strength into weakness and yet thus I suppose he thinks the matter of his Book will agree with the Title thereof New Lords New Laws and so having imagined and framed this image by the art of malice falls on furiously in several Pages fighting against it as a most odious thing thereby intending that the Reader should understand that we excommunicated him for offending the weak brethren In answer to which we the Congregation with our