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A65475 A discovery of Sathan Who hath in man covered himself, by perswading men, that original sin is the corruption of the nature of every man, that is ingendred of the offspring of Adam: also, a demonstration of the Messiah in man, to whom the gathering of the people shall be, of whom Moses in the law and the prophets did write, Gen. 49.18. Isai.11.12. Written for the use of such that denyeth not themselves the use of reson and sense, and that are not wedded to their own perswasion. West, Robert, b. ca. 1613. 1668 (1668) Wing W1388; ESTC R217304 9,234 15

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is the Law which is spiritual the true Light gave and put by God in the mindes of his People according to his promise Jer. 31.33 Heb. 8.10 That lighteth every man that cometh into the World John 1 9. It 's perfect converting the Soul making wise the simple Psal 19.7 The same to day as it was yesterday and for ever under differing names or sounds declared to us he that doth believe have the witness in himself 1 John 5.10 Quest Is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God the matter or substance of preaching to beget faith in all men or man-kinde to wit the World Answ If it was not in all the World to wit man-kinde then it could not be preached in all the World for a witness mark Christ saith this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached for a witness in all the World Math. 24.14 Again he saith behold the Kingdom of God is within you Luke 17.21 It 's written the Word is nigh thee even in thy mouth and in thy heart this is the word of faith we preach Deut. 30.14 Rom. 10.8 Quest Is that holy thing in man by which cometh the knowledge of sin the Word of God that liveth and abideth for ever the substance or matter of preaching to beget the lively faith Martin Pereas and many others saith the matter or substance of preaching to beget faith must be the written Word or Scriptures of the old and new Testament which by faith 〈◊〉 indeed the lively seed and firm foundation of faith Wilson 's Dictionary pag. 378. Answ The Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testament are God's witness that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God Rom. 10.17 and that God was the Word John 1.1 As it 's written nigh thee in thy mouth and in thy heart the word of faith the holy men preached was in man not Scriptures without man for a foundation of faith no other foundation do the holy Scriptures witness unto but to that which is already laid in thy heart to wit the Lord who is as a Law to man by whom cometh the knowledge of sin to him gives all the Prophets witness that whosoever believeth in him should receive remission of sins Acts 10.43 and not perish but have everlasting life John 3.15 Quest What might be the cause that devout and great learned Men pitched upon the Holy Scriptures for the matter or substance of preaching to beget faith Answ The light in them made manifest to them things that are reprovable and brought as it do to us the Holy Scriptures to witness to it they minded the things that are reprovable and the Scriptures that was brought that testified to it but not the wisdom that brought them which is greater than all the Scriptures this was the cause that they pitched upon the Holy Scriptures for a foundation of ministry Is written there was a little City and few men within it and there came a great King against it and besieged it and built great bul-works against it now there was found in it a poor wise man and he by his wisdome delivered the City mark yet no man remembred that poor man the poor man's wisdom is despised and his words are not heard Eccles 9.14.16 Thus forme was set above the Life which was the cause of so much strife Quest May the wisdome of God which maketh manifest things to man be despised and yet the things that are reprovable retained in knowledge and the Scriptures that do witness to them If so then may not a forme of godliness be held by such that denyeth the power and preached and yet they perish in their sins Answ Yea they that received the Law it 's written perished because they kept not the thing that was sown in them 2 Esdr 9.33 A man may in his knowledge retain the work of the spirit of God and the Scriptures that do witness to it and preach upon it the conceiving of his own brain mark and yet not retain God in his knowledge but despise his wisdome as before is written mark that ye Teachers for ye that do so the wrath of God is to be revealed against you from Heaven Rom. 1.18 You are them that are not sent of God neither shall your ministry profit the people at all your ministry is considered perfectly as the Lord hath said it should be in the latter days Jeremy 23.20 The anger of the Lord is gone forth against you and it shall not return untill he have executed and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart mark by that we know false ministry we know the latter days is come Quest If all things when they are rebuked are made manifest by the Light and that Light is the Lord. Why then was the Holy Scriptures written and whereunto do they serve Answ The Holy Scriptures was written for our learning Rom. 15.4 and are God's witnesses to men that they may believe that he which tryeth the Reines and searcheth the heart is the Lord that so men might come to him and be saved hereunto serveth the Holy Scriptures 1 Chro. 28.9 Psal 7.10 Jer. 11.20 Rev. 2.23 Quest It the spirit of God and the grace of God and the righteousness of God and the word of God and the Son of God one Answ Yea the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost are one and the Righteousness and the Grace of God is of the same Essence and they are one in property quality and vertue 1 John 5.7 Joh. 10.30 Hos 13.4 Quest Why doth the Apostle Peter say Acts 4. that there is no other name given among men whereby they might be saved but by the name of Jesus Christ if Grace and Christ are one Answ The same Apostle saith Acts 15. we believe through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved Paul the Apostle saith ye are saved by grace through faith not of your selves it is the gift of God Eph. 5.8 Names or Sounds gives not a beeing unto Substances but demonstrates them according to their nature offices operations and vertues there are differences of administration and diversities of operations but it is the self same Lord 1 Cor. 12.5 besides him there is no Saviour Hosea 13.4 Esa 44.6 Rom. 1.17 The sound Jesus and Saviour is one Quest Is this the Testimony of God and his Prophets and of wise men to wit that the Lord is in men and searcheth all hearts Answ Yea This is the Testimony of God and his Prophets and wise men to wit that the Lord is in their hearts in the midst of them searching all hearts Hos 11.9 1 Chro. 28.9 Quest What then is the saying of the Fool and of them that are in the Tire of an Harlot Answ The Fool saith in his heart there is no God Psalme 14.1 and them that are in the Tire of an Harlot saith the good man is not at home he is gone a long Journey Prev 7.19 Quest Are there three spirits in man
A DISCOVERY OF SATHAN Who hath in Man Covered Himself by perswading Men that Original Sin is the Corruption of the Nature of every Man that is ingendred of the off-spring of Adam Also a Demonstration of the Messiah in Man to whom the gathering of the People shall be of whom Moses in the Law ●nd the Prophets did write Gen. 49.18 Isai 11.12 Written for the use of such that denyeth not themselves the use of Reason and Sense and that are not wedded to their own Perswasion An Epistle to the Reader I Charge thee Reader not to spend thy censures on thy loving friend whose great desires for nothing more than that Light should unmask the Whore and tear away her painted dress that all may see her nakedness then introduced there shall be new Heavens and Earth that all may see admiring much the glorious Frame and strange composition of the same then truth and justice shall appear throughout the World without all fear Darkness shall cease and Light break forth from East to West from South to North this is the time I long to see till then we never shall be free from envy malice and oppression and what so ever is called transgression The Author fain would teach all Men the ground of things by word or Pen that they may knows live and not die Christ in their Flesh Gods mistery Quest WHat have been talked of in times past to be Original sin Answ The Pelagians talk Original sin standeth in following of Adam as it is noted in the Ninth Article of the Church of England but the Church of England in that Article saith that it is the fault and conruption of the nature of every man that is ingendred of the off-spring of Adam This have been talked of to be Original sin Mark according unto holy Scriptures that which moves in man to move man to sin is not the corruption of our nature for that is passive but the power or motion of Sathan in our flesh which is active This is the Original of Sin for as 't is written sin is of the Devil 1 Joh. 3.8 Quest Is the motion of Sathan which is in our members sin Answ Yea for it wars against the Law of God which is in our minds to wit the Light to war against the Law of God is sin and to move to man or to tempt man to do contrary unto the beeing of God in man is sin whose being in us is as a Law to us by which cometh to us the knowledge of sin Quest Shall not the motion of Sathan which is sin be imputed to man if man obey not Answ Nay to him that tempteth it's a sin to be imputed but to man that is tempted it 's no sin to be imputed if he fall not into it because man is not the author of the motion of sin that is of the Devil the motion of Sathan which is sin we have when we do not commit sin mark it 's one thing to have sin it 's another thing to commit sin he that committeth sin is of the Devil 1 Joh. 3.8 Joh. 8.44 Quest Is the motion of Sathan in the Flesh of innocent mankind if so then may it not be in the flesh of little children Answ Yea it may be in the flesh of little Children that it was in the flesh of innocent man kinde Paul the Apostle saith When I would do good evil is present with me Again he saith I finde a Law in my members warring against the Law in my mind Again In me that is in my flesh saith he dwelleth no good thing Rom. 7. James saith Know ye not that the spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy James 4.5 that it is I am a witness for I finde by the Law as it is written that when I would do good evil is present with me Rom 7.21 Quest If the motion of sin be in the flesh of innocent mankinde is not that Adam 's transgression Answ Nay Mans sin is no substance but an act or accident a transgressing against the Law of God mark that which moves in us to move us to sin is a substance not Adam's sin but the Serpent that moved them to sin Quest Are not little children conceived and born in sin as it have been conceived declared and believed Answ It 's written the Lord is the Former of all things Jer. 10.16 and that in wisdom which is contrary to sin hath he made them all Psal 104.24 and his work is perfect Deut. 32.4 Christ Jesus saith touching little Children of such is the Kingdom of Heaven Luke 18.16 Math. 19.14 Again he saith Verily verily I say unto you except ye be converted and become as little Children ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven Mat. 18.9 Again it 's noted in the common prayer Book in publick Baptisme that little Children are innocent and in the Collect for Innocents Day see then according to Moses the Prophets and Christ's sayings little Children are innocent and not born in sin Quest What is Innocency and what is degeneration Answ Innocency is uprightness Adam was in it the Lord made man upright Eccl. 7.29 Degeneration is transgression the Lord made it not nor man in it Wisd 1.13 Quest Have not Christ by his death destroyed the power of sin and satisfied the wrath of God for all transgressions there are many that do believe that Christ by his death hath satisfied the wrath of God for all sins present past and to come and hath by his death destroyed the power of sin Answ To believe that Christ by his Death hath satisfied God's wrath for all sins and hath by his death destroyed the power of sin Is to believe against Holy Scripture and knowledge because we finde in our flesh the power of sin undestroyed Again when we were the servants of sin then as it 's written Rom. 2.8 9. Upon our souls was tribulation anguish and wrath Again if all sins present past and to come was satisfied for by the death of Christ then there remains no place for preaching his name for repentance and remission of sins nor for Christ's Intercession Mark according to Holy Scripture the ministry of the Gospel of God is to be preached among all Nations for obedience of faith that they may come to repentance and receive remission of sins Luke 24.27 Except sinners repent they shall all perish Luke 13.4 Christ tasted Death for every man for the redemption of the transgressions that was under the first Testament Heb. 2.9 9.15 But for the sin of not believing the second Testament or Covenant of God of that men must repent or else for that they shall perish and dye in their sins as the Lord hath said John 8.24 Luke 13.3 Quest What is the first Testament Answ Precepts of God gave forth contained in Scripture without us Quest What is the second Covenant of the Lord and where is it to be witnessed Answ The new and second Covenant of the Lord
fear the Lord Noble as the Roman Ruler was by Paul Acts 26.25 A few Words to those that may endeavour to oppose what is before written touching little Children being born in innocency and not in sin IT may be conceived from what is written in Psal 51.5 that little Children are shapen and conceived in sin Mark Thomas Wilson that learned Man in his Dictionary Page 602. saith on that place sin entered with us into the World This saying is true but that little Children are shapen and born in sin is contrary to holy Scriptures which saith In wisdom which is contrary to sin hath he to wit the Lord made all his works Quest If Sathan or the motion of Sathan which is sin entered or is born with little Children Is it not all as one as though little Children was shapen and born in sin Answ Nay he that is in sin is under the Dominion of Sathan and is out of God's wisdom to wit the Son of God in whom and by whom the Former of all things made the Worlds Heb. 1.2 Again it may be conceived from the 2 Eph. 3. That by nature little Children are Children of wrath Mark the 3d. Verse of that Chapter depends on the 2d Verse where it s written that was spoken of such that walked not of passive Children according to the course of this World according to the Prince of the power of the Ayr the spirit that now worketh in the Children of disobedience Mark by following the Prince of the power of the Ayr they are by nature the Children of wrath but not as they was formed by the Lord of the nature of man-kinde Again it may be conceived by what is written Joh. 3.3 That little Children are born degenerated that Scripture points unto Man degenerated not to little Children little Children are formed in righteousness and born in innocency as before is noted Quest If any Query whether there be any saved by Jesus Christ but those for whom Christ dyed and whether he dyed for any but sinners and then conclude that little Children are born in sin or the sin of Adam is imputed to them or else Christ dyed not for them and so conceive that little Children are not saved by Christ if born in Innocency Answ We need not any Man to teach us as it is written 1 Joh. 2.27 but as the anointing teacheth us the manifestation of it is given to every Man to profit withall the anointing which is in us convinceth us not nor chargeth us not with the transgression of Adam nor any of our Fore-fathers because for the Redemption of the transgressions that was under the first Testament Christ tasted death for every man Heb. 2.9 and the 9.15 So that little Children shall not answer for the sin of their Fathers as the Lord hath sworn Ezek. 18. but are guided in youth Prov. 2.17 and are saved by the life of Jesus Rom. 5.10 if they dye before they transgress against the second Testament Mark it s the Soul that sinneth it s written shall die Ezek. 18.20 Hos 13.9 These things are written to stop errors because an error in its beginning is next to the Serpent the cause of all error and confusion that have been upon the Earth unto this day by the Light according to what is written Jer. 16.19 It may appear that our Fathers have inherited lies vanity and things wherein there is no profit O Sathan old and subtle too thy ways is hard to finde How thou dost work in Sons of Men their Childrens minds to blinde Know Sathan thou Unvail'd must be No cover shall thee hide Though thou moves Men professing Christ To judge that they may ride Upon the truth and her Children a place not fit for Man Know of a truth thy time is short Yea even now 's at hand For to be bound not to deceive the Lord will do the thing And we that do God's Name profess will to Him for it sing Finally Because amongst the many thousand witnesses I do testifie that the true Light which lighteth every Man that cometh into the World is the matter or substance of Preaching to beget faith some Men may think and say as some have that I do deny the Holy Scriptures Know all Men that I do own the Holy Scriptures for they do testifie that the searcher of all hearts is God and that God is Light and that all things that are rebukable when they are made manifest is manifested by the Light Again know that I am a witness and do think of Holy Scriptures above Men as it s written 1 Cor. 4.6 But I may not think of Holy Scriptures above God in Man or the Testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of Prophesie for as it s written 1 Joh. 5.10 The witness of God is greater he that do believe the Testimony that God gives of his Son have the witness in himself but every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the Flesh that Spirit is of Anti-Christ 1 Joh. 4.3 Written by R. W. in the Year 1668. THE END