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A51597 A vindication of St. Gregorie his dialogues: in which the great St. Gregory is proved the author of that work. Mumford, J. (James), 1606-1666. 1660 (1660) Wing M3071A; ESTC R222057 12,443 19

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describes the year in which he did write these Dialogues Likewise saith he in that mortality which three years since lamentably afflicted this town It is notorius by History that this great plague raged in Rome the first year of his Popedom of which see Baronius Anno 590. who well proves from hence that these Dialogues were written Anno. 593. see him in that year Moreover C. 30. The writer of these Dialogues speak thus Julian who dyed almost seven years since told me this Story In the time of King Theodoricus quoth he my Wives father being then in Sicily Theodoricus began to reign Anno 493. How could Gregory the third made Pope Anno 731. speak these words Lord where is these mens fuller consideration The Church in her Breviary is a most exact deliverer so historical Verity and not a follower of such as deliver Winter tales This Church upon the feast of St. Hemenigildus April 13. taketh the lessons of the second Nocturne out of these Dialogues of St. Gregory And upon the feast of St. John Pope and Martyr May the 27. the same Church recounts out of these Dialogues of St. Gregory one of these stories which they are pleased to Nickname Winter tales concerning a holy Eremite who did see the soul of Theodoricus cast down into the fire of Sipara the same day hower upon which he dyed of which see L. 4. C. 30. Secondly the same Church is known to have used most accurate diligence in the History of her Roman Maryrologe which she appoints to be read dayly in the Quire at the Prime as part of the divine office in which it were most grosse to follow the Relaters of Winter tales yet in a short time I found above twenty several places in that Martyrologe in which St. Gregory in his Dialogues is cited in confirmation of what is here related of which I shall speak more herafter N. 15. Lastly to all these convincing proofs I add the testimony of St. Gregory the great in that undoubted work of his epistles Where he tells us clearly that he did write the book of Dialogues and upon what occasion Thus then he writeth Epist. 50. L. 2. Regist. Indict 11. C. 89. To Maxmianus Bishop of Syracusa My Brethren who live familiarly with me do inforce me by all means briefly to commit to writing some miracles of those fathers which we have heard done in Italy for effecting whereof I stand in great need of your charitable assistance to wit that you would signifie to me such things as came to your memorie or it hath been your chance to know for I remember well You told me some things concerning Abbot Annosus who lived neer Anastasius c. Now it appears by his first book of Dialogues C. 7. that this Maximianus did write back unto him what he there relates of Abbot Annosus And by all this any man may see how inconsiderately in their fuller consideration they have proceeded who never opening their eyes to any of these so apparent verities did most unadvisedly deny these Dialogues to be written by the great St. Gregory and fathered them upon Gregorie the the third But novv they have heard our arguments which are so wholly unanswerable let us hear their very weak proofes of the contrary First they object the Authority of Photius ascribing these books to Gregory the Third a Man so learned in books and Authors that he cannot be conceived ignorant of the truth I answer that this Photius was a Grecian and nothing well skilled in sacred and Latin Authors Hear what Nicetas writeth in his Life in which he saith that he was eminent indeed in secular sciences being secretary to the Emperour Bardas But wholly devoid of all sacred literature And no wonder For as he tells us That of a Lay man he in space of six dayes was transformed into a Patriarch of Constantinople From which dignity he for his most notorius wickedness was the second time deposed Anno. 880. By which account you see also of how late a standing he is And how despicable in comparison of the Authors I have cited Secondly they object that this book is unworthy of St. Gregory the great This is directly to oppose the Judgment of St. Ildefonsus St. Julian St. Bede and of the holy and learned Pope Zachary who thought this work worthy his translation by which also Greece came so highly to esteem of St. Gregory as hath been shewed out of Baronius This is also to vilifie the authority of the Latin Church so much relying upon the authority of this book as hath been said and shall now farther be declared For you pass on farther and. Thirdly object that this book conteins many stories like Winter tales I answer that it is an unsufferable injury to the Church to say she yields so much credit to such a book so stuft with such Winter tales as you will have them An unsufferable injury to our great Apostle St. Gregory whom we have proved to be the writer of these stories concerning which he himself saith in the Preface to that work I have followed the example of St. Luke and St. Mark who learnt the gospell which they write not by sight but by the relation of others Yet least any in reading should have an occasion to doubt whether such things as I write be true or no I will set down by what manner and of whom I have learnt them I know Melchior Canus whose words our Adversaries much applaud was so bold as to say that some Anastarche or Critikes of our age would account some of the miracles related by him to be uncertain But I know also that the great Baronius whose exactness in History is famed through all Christendom examining this censure of Canus in his notes upon the Martyrologe December 23. pronounceth it to be a calumny very inconsiderately vented against a work which both the East and West Church for these thousand years held worthy all highest credit veneration and praise And then he beats down this calumny by a multitude of most grave testimonies I do cite thee O Canus saith he I do cite thee before the Tribunal of thy own most holy and most learned Spanish Doctors S. Isidor S. Ildefonsus S. Julian S. Isidor after he had enlarged himself in the endless praises of S. Gregory comes at last to conclude thus He is happy and over happy who is well versed in all his works S. Ildefonse affirmes That all antiquity could shew nothing like to him that is to the great S. Gregory That he surpassed Anthony in sincerity Cyprian in eloquence Austin in wisdom Behold he preferreth this Writer of the Dialogues which there he names with a special Encomium of that work before the great St. Austin even in point of Wisdom And yet these men dare compare him to a teller of Winter tales But Baronius goeth on and shewes with what respect these very Dialogues were cited by S. Julian cited by whole Assemblies of Holy Fathers