and in the 3. Chap. Our Lord the King hath ordained that a Woman after the death of her Husband shall recover by a Writ of Entry The Stat. of Quo Warranto saith Our Lord the King at his Parliament of his special Grace and for Affection which he beareth to his Prelates Earls and Barons and others hath granted that they that have Liberties by Prescription shall enjoy them In the Stat. de finibus Levatis the Kings words are We intending to provide Remedy in our Parliament have ordained c. 28 Edw. 1. c. 5. The King wills that the Chancellor and the Justices of the Bench shall follow Him so that he may have at all times some near unto him that be learned in the Laws and in Chap. 24. the words are Our Lord the King after full Conference and Debate had with his Earls Barons Nobles and other Great men by their whole Consent hath ordained c. The Stat. de Tallagio if any such Statute there be speaks in the Kings Person No Officer of Ours No Tallage shall be taken by Us We will and Grant 1 Edw. 2. begins thus Our Lord the King willeth and Commandeth The Stat. of 9. the same King saith Our Lord the King by the Assent of the Prelates Earls and other great States hath Ordained 10 Edw. 2. It is provided by our Lord the King and his Justices The Stat. of Carlile saith We have sent our Command in writing firmly to be observed 1 Edw. 3. begins thus King Edw. 3. at his Parliament at the request of the Commonalty by their Petition before him and his Councel in Parliament hath granted c. and in the 5th Chap. The King willeth that no man be charged to arm himself otherwise than he was wont 5 Ed. 3. Our Lord the King at the Request of his People hath established these things which He Wills to be kept 9. Of the same King there is this Title Our Lord the King by the Assent c. and by the Advice of his Councel being there hath ordained c. In his 10. year it is said Because Our Lord King Edw. 3. hath received by the Complaint of the Prelates Earls Barons also at the shewing of the Knights of the Shires and his Commons by their Petition put in his Parliament c. Hath ordained by the Assent c. at the Request of the said Knights and Commons c. The same year in another Parliament you may find these be our Articles accorded by Our Lord the King with the Assent c. at the Request of the Knights of the Shires and the Commons by their Petition put in the said Parliament In the year-book 22 Edw. 3.3 pl. 25. It is said The King makes the Laws by the Assent of the Peers and Commons and not the Peers and Commons The Stat. of 1 Ric. 2. hath this Beginning Richard the 2. by the Assent of the Prelates Dukes Earls and Barons and at the Instance and special Request of the Commons Ordained There being a Statute made 5 Ric. 2. c. 5. against Lollards in the next year the Commons Petition Him Supplient les Commons que come un estatute fuit fait c. The Commons beseech that whereas a Statute was made in the last Parliament c. which was never Assented to or Granted by the Commons but that which was done therein was done without their Assent In this Petition the Commons acknowledge it a Statute and so call it though they assented not to it 17 Rich. 2. nu 44. The Commons desire some pursuing to make a Law which they conceive hurtful to the Commonwealth that His Majesty will not pass it As for the Parliaments in Hen. 4. Hen. 5. Hen. 6. Edw. 4. and Rich. 3. Reigns the most of them do agree in this one Title Our Lord the King by the Advice and Assent of his Lords and at the special Instance and Request of the Commons hath ordained The Precedents in this Point are so numerous that it were endless to cite them The Statutes in Hen. 7. days do for the most part agree both in the Titles and Bodies of the Acts in these words Our Lord the King by the Assent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons in Parliament Assembled and by the Authority of the same hath ordained Unto this King's time we find the Commons very often petitioning but not petitioned unto The first Petition made to the Commons that I meet with among the Statutes is but in the middle of this King Hen. 7. Reign which was so well approved that the Petition it self is turned into a Statute It begins thus To the Right Worshipful Commons in this present Parliament Assembled Sheweth to your Discreet Wisdoms the Wardens of the Fellowship of the Craft of Vpholsters within London c. This Petition though it be directed to the Commons in the Title yet the Prayer of the Petition is turned to the King and not to the Commons for it Concludes Therefore it may please the Kings Highness by the Advice of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and his Commons in Parliament c. Next for the Statutes of Hen. 8. they do most part agree both in their Titles and the Bodies of the Acts with those of his Father King Hen. 7. Lastly in the Statutes of Edw. the 6. Qu. Mary Qu. Elizabeth K. James and of our Sovereign Lord the King that now is there is no mention made in their Titles of any Assent of Lords and Commons or of any Ordaining by the King but only in general Terms it is said Acts made in Parliament or thus At the Parliament were Enacted yet in the Bodies of many of these Acts of these last Princes there is sometimes Mention made of Consent of Lords and Commons in these or the like words It is Enacted by the King with the Assent of the Lords and Commons Except only in the Statutes of our Lord King Charles wherein there is no mention that I can find of any Consent of the Lords and Commons or Ordaining by the King But the words are Be it Enacted by Authority of Parliament or else Be it Enacted by the King the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons as if they were all Fellow-Commissioners Thus it appears that even till the time of K. Ed. 6. who lived but in our Fathers days it was punctually expressed in every Kings Laws that the Statutes and Ordinances were made by the King And withal we may see by what degrees the Styles and Titles of Acts of Parliament have been varied and to whose disadvantage The higher we look the more absolute we find the Power of Kings in Ordaining nor do we meet with at first so much as the Assent or Advice of the Lords mentioned Nay if we cast our eye upon many Statutes of those that be of most Antiquity they will appear as if they were no Laws at all but as if they had been made only to teach us that the punishments
sworn to keep or not If a Soveraign Prince promise by Oath to his Subjects to keep the Laws he is bound to keep them not for that a Prince is bound to keep his Laws by himself or by his Predecessors but by the just Conventions and Promises which he hath made himself be it by Oath or without any Oath at all as should a private man be and for the same causes that a Private man may be relieved from his unjust and unreasonable Promise as for that it was so grievous or for that he was by deceit or fraud Circumvented or induced thereunto by Errour or Force or just Fear or by some great Hurt even for the same causes the Prince may be restored in that which toucheth the diminishing of his Majesty And so our Maxime resteth That the Prince is not subject to His Laws nor to the Laws of his Predecessors but well to his Own just and reasonable Conventions The Soveraign Prince may derogate from the Laws that he hath promised and sworn to keep if the Equity thereof cease and that of himself without Consent of his Subjects which his Subjects cannot do among Themselves if they be not by the Prince relieved The Foreign Princes well-advised will never take Oath to keep the Laws of their Predecessors for otherwise they are not Sovereigns Notwithstanding all Oaths the Prince may Derogate from the Laws or Frustrate or Disannul the same the Reason and Equity of them ceasing There is not any Bond for the Soveraign Prince to keep the Laws more than so far as Right and Justice requireth Neither is it to be found that the Antient Kings of the Hebrews took any Oaths no not they which were Anointed by Samuel Elias and others As for General and Particular which concern the Right of men in Private they have not used to be otherwise Changed but after General Assemblies of the Three Estates in France not for that it is necessary for the Kings to rest on their Advice or that he may not do the Contrary to that they demand if natural Reason and Justice do so require And in that the Greatness and Majesty of a true Soveraign Prince is to be known when the Estates of all the People assembled together in all Humility present their Requests and Supplications to their Prince without having any Power in any thing to Command or Determine or to give Voice but that that which it pleaseth the King to Like or Dislike to Command or Forbid is holden for Law Wherein they which have written of the Duty of Magistrates have deceived themselves in maintaining that the Power of the People is greater than the Prince a thing which oft-times causeth the true Subjects to revolt from the Obedience which they owe unto their Soveraign Prince and ministreth matter of great Troubles in Commonwealths of which their Opinion there is neither reason nor ground If the King should be Subject unto the Assemblies and Decrees of the People he should neither be King nor Soveraign and the Commonwealth neither Realm nor Monarchy but a meer Aristocracy of many Lords in Power equal where the Greater part commandeth the less and whereon the Laws are not to be published in the Name of him that Ruleth but in the Name and Authority of the Estates as in an Aristocratical Seignory where he that is Chief hath no Power but oweth Obeisance to the Seignory unto whom yet they every one of them feign themselves to owe their Faith and Obedience which are all things so absurd as hard it is to see which is furthest from Reason When Charles the eighth the French King then but Fourteen years old held a Parliament at Tours although the Power of the Parliament was never Before nor After so great as in those Times yet Relli then the Speaker for the People turning himself to the King thus beginneth Most High most Mighty and most Christian King our Natural and Onely Lord we poor humble and obedient Subjects c. which are come hither by your Command in all Humility Reverence and Subjection present our selves before you c. And have given me in charge from all this Noble Assembly to declare unto You the good Will and hearty desire they have with a most fervent Resolution to Serve Obey and Aid You in all your Affairs Commandments and Pleasures All this Speech is nothing else but a Declaration of their good Will towards the King and of their humble Obedience and Loyalty The like Speech was used in the Parliament at Orleans to Charles the 9th when he was scarce Eleven Years old Neither are the Parliaments in Spain otherwise holden but that even a greater Obedience of all the People is given to the King as is to be seen in the Acts of the Parliament at Toledo by King Philip 1552. when he yet was scarce Twenty Five Years old The Answers also of the King of Spain unto the Requests and humble Supplications of his People are given in these words We will or else We Decree or Ordain yea the Subsidies that the Subjects pay unto the King of Spain they call Service In the Parliaments of England which have commonly been holden every Third Year the Estates seem to have a great Liberty as the Northern People almost all breathe thereafter yet so it is that in effect they proceed not but by way of Supplications and Requests to the King As in the Parliament holden in Octob. 1566. when the Estates by a common Consent had resolved as they gave the Queen to understand not to Treat of any thing until She had first Appointed who should Succeed Her in the Crown She gave them no other Answer but That they were not to make her Grave before she were Dead All whose Resolutions were to no purpose without Her good liking neither did She in that any thing that they requested Albeit by the Sufferance of the King of England Controversies between the King and his People are sometimes determined by the High Court of Parliament yet all the Estates remain in full subjection to the King who is no way bound to follow their Advice neither to consent to their Requests The Estates of England are never otherwise Assembled no more than they are in France or Spain than by Parliament-Writs and express Commandments proceeding from the King which sheweth very well that the Estates have no Power of themselves to Determine Command or Decree any thing seeing they cannot so much as Assemble themselves neither being Assembled Depart without express Commandment from the King Yet this may seem one special thing that the Laws made by the King of England at the Request of the Estates cannot be again repealed but by calling a Parliament though we see Henry the eighth to have always used his Soveraign Power and with his only word to have disannulled the Decrees of Parliament We conclude the Majesty of a Prince to be nothing altered or diminished by the Calling together or Presence of the
had no formal Parliaments till about the 18 th year of King Hen. 1. For in his Third year for the Marriage of his Daughter the King raised a Tax upon every Hide of Land by the Advice of his Privy Councel alone And the Subjects saith he soon after this Parliament was established began to stand upon Terms with their King and drew from him by strong hand and their Swords their Great Charter it was after the establishment of the Parliament by colour of it that they had so great Daring If any desire to know the cause why Hen. 1. called the People to Parliament it was upon no very good Occasion if we believe Sir Walter Raleigh The Grand Charter saith he was not originally granted Regally and freely for King Hen. 1. did but usurp the Kingdom and therefore the better to secure himself against Robert his elder Brother he flattered the People with those Charters yea King John that confirmed them had the like Respect for Arthur D. of Britain was the undoubted Heir of the Crown upon whom John usurped so these Charters had their original from Kings de facto but not de jure and then afterwards his Conclusion is that the Great Charter had first an obscure Birth by Vsurpation was fostered and shewed to the World by Rebellion in brief the King called the People to Parliament and granted them Magna Charta that they might confirm to him the Crown The third Point consists of two parts First that the Commons were not called to Parliament until Hen. 3. days this appears by divers of the Precedents formerly cited to prove that the Barons were the Common Councel For though Hen. 1. called all the People of the Land to his Coronation and again in the 15. or 18. year of his Reign yet always he did not so neither many of those Kings that did succeed him as appeareth before Secondly For calling the Commons by Writ I find it acknowledged in a Book intituled The Privilege and Practice of Parliaments in these words In ancient times after the King had summoned His Parliament innumerable multitudes of People did make their Access thereunto pretending that Privilege of Right to belong to them But King Hen. 3. having Experience of the Mischief and inconveniences by occasion of such popular Confusion did take order that none might come to His Parliament but those who were specially summoned To this purpose it is observed by Master Selden that the first Writs we find accompanied with other Circumstances of a Summons to Parliament as well for the Commons as Lords is in the 49 of Hen. 3. In the like manner Master Cambden speaking of the Dignity of Barons hath these words King Hen. 3. out of a great Multitude which were seditious and turbulent called the very best by Writ or Summons to Parliament for he after many Troubles and Vexations between the King himself and Simon de Monefort with other Barons and after appeased did decree and ordain That all those Earls and Barons unto whom the King himself vouchsafed to direct His Writs of Summons should come to his Parliament and no others but that which he began a little before his Death Edward 1. and his Successors constantly observed and continued The said prudent King Edward summoned always those of ancient Families that were most wise to His Parliament and omitted their Sons after their Death if they were not answerable to their Parents in Vnderstanding Also Mr. Cambden in another place saith that in the time of Edw 1. select men for Wisdom and Worth among the Gentry were called to Parliament and their Posterity omitted if they were defective therein As the power of sending Writs of Summons for Elections was first exercised by Hen. 3. so succeeding Kings did regulate the Elections upon such Writs as doth appear by several Statutes which all speak in the Name and Power of the Kings themselves for such was the Language of our Fore-fathers In 5 Ric. 2. c. 4. these be the words The King Willeth and Commandeth all Persons which shall have Summons to come to Parliament and every Person that doth absent himself except he may reasonably and honestly excuse him to Our Lord the King shall be amerced and otherwise punished 7 Hen. 4. c. 15. Our Lord the King at the grievous complaint of his Commons of the undue Election of the Knights of Counties sometimes made of affection of Sheriffs and otherwise against the Form of the Writs to the great slander of the Counties c. Our Lord the King willing therein to provide Remedy by the Assent of the Lords and Commons Hath Ordained That Election shall be made in the full County-Court and that all that be there present as well-Suitors as others shall proceed to the Election freely notwithstanding any Request or Command to the contrary 11 Hen. 4. c. 1. Our Lord the King Ordained that a Sheriff that maketh an undue Return c. shall incur the Penalty of a 100 l. to be paid to Our Lord the King 1 H. 5. c. 1. Our Lord the King by the Advice and Assent of the Lords and the special Instance and Request of the Commons Ordained that the Knights of the Shire be not chosen unless they be resiant within the Shire the day of the date of the Writ and that Citizens and Burgesses be resiant dwelling and free in the same Cities and Burroughs and no others in any wise 6 Hen. 6. c. 4. Our Lord the King willing to provide remedy for Knights chosen for Parliament and Sheriffs Hath Ordained that they shall have their Answer and traverse to Inquest of Office found against them 8 Hen. 6. c. 7. Where as Elections of Knights have been made by great Out-rages and excessive number of People of which most part was of People of no value whereof every of them pretend a Voice equivalent to Wortby Knights and Esquires whereby Man-slaughters Riots and Divisions among Gentlemen shall likely be Our Lord the King hath ordained That Knights of Shires be chosen by People dwelling in the Counties every of them having Lands or Tenements to the value of 2 l. the year at the least and that he that shall be chosen shall be dwelling and resiant within the Counties 10 H. 6. Our Lord the King ordained that Knights be chosen by People dwelling and having 2 l. by the year within the same County 11 H. 6. c. 11. The King willing to provide for the Ease of them that come to the Parliaments and Councels of the King by his commandment hath ordained that if any Assault or Fray be made on them that come to Parliament or other Councel of the King the Party which made any such Affray or Assault shall pay double Damages and make Fine and Ransom at the Kings Will. 23 H. 6. c. 15. The King considering the Statutes of 1 H. 5. c. 1. 8 Hen. 6. c. 7. and the Defaults of Sheriffs in returning Knights Citizens and Burgesses ordained 1. That
the said Statutes should be duly kept 2. That the Sheriffs shall deliver Precepts to Mayors and Bailiffs to chuse Citizens and Burgesses 3. The Penalty of 100 l. for a Sheriff making an untrue Return concerning the election of Knights Citizens and Burgesses 4. The Penalty of 40 l. for Mayors or Bailiffs making untrue Returns 5. Due Election of Knights must be in the full County-Court between the Hours of Eight and Eleven before noon 6. The Party must begin his Suit within 3 Moneths after the Parliament began 7. Knights of the Shire shall be notable Knights of the County or such notable Esquires or Gentlemen born of the said Counties as shall be able to be Knights and no man to be such Knight which standeth in the Degree of a Yeoman and under The last thing I observe in the Writ for Election of Members for Parliament is That by the express words of the Writ Citizens and Burgesses for the Parliament were eligible at the County-Court as well as Knights of the Shire and that not only Freeholders but all others whosoever were present at the County-Court had Voices in such Elections See the Stat. 7 Hen. 4. cap. 15. I have the longer insisted on the Examination of the Writ being the Power Actions of the House of Commons are principally justified by the Trust which the Free-holders commit unto them by virtue of this Writ I would not be understood to determine what Power the House of Commons doth or may exercise if the King please I confine my self only to the Power in the Writ I am not ignorant that King Hen. 7. in the Cause of the Duke of Britain and King James in the Business of the Palatinate asked the Councel of the House of Commons and not only the House of Commons but every Subject in particular by Duty and Allegiance is bound to give his best Advice to his Sovereign when he is thought worthy to have his Councel asked 13 Edw. 3. nu 10. All the Merchants of England were summoned by Writ to appear at Westminster in proper Person to confer upon great business concerning the King's Honour the Salvation of the Realm and of themselves In Passages of publick Councel it is observable saith Sir Rob. Cotton that in ancient times the Kings of England did entertain the Commons with weighty Causes thereby to apt and bind them to a readiness of Charge and the Commons to shun Expence have warily avoided to give Advice 13 Edw. 3. The Lords and Commons were called to consult how the domestick Quiet may be preserved the Marches of Scotland defended and the Sea secured from Enemies The Peers and Commons having apart consulted the Commons desired Not to be charged to Councel of things of which they had no Cognisance de queux ils n' ont pas de Cognisance 21 Edw. 3. Justice Thorp declaring to the Peers and Commons that the French War began by their Advice the Truce after by their Assent accepted and now ended the Kings Pleasure was to have their Counsel in the Prosecution the Commons being commanded to assemble themselves and when they were agreed to give notice to the King and the Lords of the Councel after four days Consultation Humbly desire of the King that he would be advised therein by the Lords and others of more Experience than themselves in such Affairs 6 Ric. 2. The Parliament was called to consult whether the King should go in Person to rescue Gaunt or send an Army The Commons after two days Debate crave a Conference with the Lords and Sir Thomas Puckering their Speaker protests that Councels for War did aptly belong to the King and His Lords yet since the Commons were commanded to give their Advice they humbly wished a Voyage by the King 7 Ric. 2. At the second Session the Commons are willed to Advise upon View of Articles of Peace with the French whether War or such Amity should be accepted they modestly excuse themselves as too weak to Counsel in so weighty Causes But charged again as they did tender their Honour and the Right of the King they make their Answer giving their Opinions rather for Peace than War For fuller Manifestation of what hath been said touching the Calling Election and Power of the Commons in Parliament it is behooveful to observe some Points delivered by Sir Edw. Coke in his Treatise of the Jurisdiction of Parliaments where First he fairly begins and lays his Foundation that the High Court of Parliament consisteth of the Kings Majesty sitting there and of the three Estates 1. The Lords Spiritual 2. The Lords Temporal 3. And the Commons Hence it is to be gathered that truly and properly it cannot be called the High Court of Parliament but whilst the King is sitting there in Person so that the Question now a-days whether the Parliament be above the King is either false or idle false if you exclude and idle if you include the King's Person in the word Parliament The case truly put and as it is meant is whether the three Estates or which is all one the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament be above the King and not whether the King with the three Estates be above the King It appears also that they are much mistaken who reckon the King one of the three Estates as Mr. Pryn pag. 20. and many others do for the three Estates make the Body and the King is Caput Principium Finis Parliamentor ' as confesseth Sir Edw. Coke Secondly Sir Edw. Coke delivers That certain it is both Houses at first sate togther and that it appears in Edward the Third's time the Lords and Commons sate together and the Commons had no continual Speaker If he mean the Lords and Commons did sit and Vote together in one Body few there be that will believe it because the Commons never were wont to lose or forego any of their Liberties or Privileges and for them to stand now with their Hats in their hands which is no Magistratical Posture there where they were wont to sit and Vote is an alteration not imaginable to be endured by the Commons It may be in former times when the Commons had no constant Speaker they were oft and perhaps for the most part in the same Chamber and in the presence of the Lords to hear the Debates and Consultations of the Great Councel but not to sit and Vote with them for when the Commons were to Advise among themselves the Chapter-house of the Abby of Westminster was oft-times their place to meet in before they had a setled House and their meetings not being very frequent may be the reason I conceive why the name of the House of Commons is not of such great Antiquity or taken notice of but the House of Lords was only called the Parliament-House and the Treatise called Modus tenendi Parliamentum speaks of the Parliament as but of one House only The House where now the Commons sit in Westminster is
the King a Subject Councel loseth the name of Counsel and becomes a Command if it put a Necessity upon the King to follow it such Imperious Councels make those that are but Counsellors in name to be Kings in Fact and Kings themselves to be but Subjects We read in Sir Robert Cotton that towards the end of the Saxons and the first times of the Norman Kings Parliaments stood in Custom-grace fixed to Easter Whitsuntide and Christmas and that at the Kings Court or Palace Parliaments sate in the Presence or Privy Chamber from whence he infers an Improbability to believe the King excluded His own Presence and unmannerly for Guests to bar him their Company who gave them their Entertainment And although now a-days the Parliament sit not in the Court where the Kings houshold remains yet still even to this day to shew that Parliaments are the Kings Guests the Lord Steward of the Kings Houshold keeps a standing Table to entertain the Peers during the sitting of Parliament and he alone or some from or under him as the Treasurer or Comptroller of the Kings Houshold takes the Oaths of the Members of the House of Commons the first day of the Parliament Sir Richard Scroop Steward of the Houshold of our Sovereign Lord the King by the Commandment of the Lords sitting in full Parliament in the Great Chamber put J. Lord Gomeniz and William Weston to answer severally to Accusations brought against them The Necessity of the King's Presence in Parliament appears by the Desire of Parliaments themselves in former times and the Practice of it Sir Robert Cotton proves by several Precedents whence he concludes that in the Consultations of State and Decisions of private Plaints it is clear from all times the King was not only present to advise but to determine also Whensoever the King is present all Power of judging which is derived from His ceaseth The Votes of the Lords may serve for matter of Advice the final Judgment is only the Kings Indeed of late years Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth by reason of their Sex being not so fit for publick Assemblies have brought them out of Use by which means it is come to pass that many things which were in former times acted by Kings themselves have of late been left to the Judgment of the Peers who in Quality of Judges extraordinary are permitted for the Ease of the King and in his absence to determine such matters as are properly brought before the King Himself sitting in Person attended with His great Councel of Prelates and Peers And the Ordinances that are made there receive their Establishment either from the Kings Presence in Parliament where his Chair of State is commonly placed or at least from the Confirmation of Him who in all Courts and in all Causes is Supreme Judge All Judgment is by or under Him it cannot be without much less against his Approbation The King only and none but He if he were able should judge all Causes saith Bracton that ancient Chief Justice in Hen. 3. time An ancient Precedent I meet with cited by Master Selden of a judicious Proceeding in a Criminal Cause of the Barons before the Conquest wherein I observe the Kings Will was that the Lords should be Judges in the Cause wherein Himself was a Party and He ratified their Proceeding The case was thus Earl Godwin having had a Trial before the Lords under King Hardicanute touching the Death of Alfred Son to King Ethelbert and Brother to him who was afterward Edward the Confessor had fled out of England and upon his Return with hope of Edward the Confessor's Favour he solicited the Lords to intercede for him with the King who consulting together brought Godwin with them before the King to obtain his Grace and Favour But the King presently as soon as he beheld him said Thou Traytor Godwin I do appeal thee of the Death of my Brother Alfred whom thou hast most Trayterously slain Then Godwin excusing it answered My Lord the King may it please your Grace I neither betrayed nor killed your Brother whereof I put my self upon the Judgment of your Court Then the King said You noble Lords Earls and Barons of the Land who are my Liege men now gathered here together and have heard my Appeal and Godwin's Answer I will that in this Appeal between us ye decree right Judgment and do true Justice The Earls and Barons treating of this among themselves were of differing Judgments some said that Godwin was never bound to the King either by Homage Service or Fealty and therefore could not be his Traytor and that he had not slain Alfred with his own hands others said that neither Earl nor Baron nor any other Subject of the King could wage his war by Law against the King in his Appeal but must wholly put himself into the King's Mercy and offer competent Amends Then Leofric Consul of Chester a good man before God and the World said Earl Godwin next to the King is a man of the best Parentage of all England and he cannot deny but that by his Counsel Alfred the King's Brother was slain therefore for my part I consider that He and his Son and all we twelve Earls who are his Friends and Kinsmen do go humbly before the King laden with so much Gold and Silver as each of us can carry in our Arms offering him That for his Offence and humbly praying for Pardon And he will pardon the Earl and taking his Homage and Fealty will restore him all his Lands All they in this form lading themselves with Treasure and coming to the King did shew the Manner and Order of their Consideration to which The King not willing to contradict did ratifie all that they had judged 23 Hen. 2. In Lent there was an Assembly of all the Spiritual and Temporal Barons at Westminster for the determination of that great Contention between Alfonso King of Castile and Sancho King of Navarre touching divers Castles and Territories in Spain which was by comprise submitted to the Judgment of the King of England And The King consulting with his Bishops Earls and Barons determined it as he saith Himself in the first Person in the Exemplification of the Judgment 2. Of King John also that great Controversie touching the Barony that William of Moubray claimed against William of Stutvil which had depended from the time of King Hen. 2. was ended by the Council of the Kingdom and Will of the King Concilio Regni Voluntate Regis The Lords in Parliament adjudge William de Weston to Death for surrendring Barwick Castle but for that Our Lord the King was not informed of the manner of the Judgment the Constable of the Tower Allen Bruxal was commanded safely to keep the said William until he had other Commandment from our Lord the King 4 Ric. 2. Also the Lords adjudged John Lord of Gomentz for surrendring the Towns and Castles of Ardee and for
and the Bishop of Rochester were restored to the Possession of Detling and other Lands which Odo had withholden There is mention of a Parliament held under the same King William the Conquerour wherein all the Bishops of the Land Earls and Barons made an Ordinance touching the Exemption of the Abby of Bury from the Bishops of Norwich In the tenth year of the Conquerour Episcopi Comites Barones regni regià potestate ad universalem Synodum pro causis audiendis tractandis convocati saith the Book of Westminster In the 2 year of William 2. there was a Parliament de cunctis regni Principibus another w ch had quosque regni Proceres All the Peers of the Kingdom In the seventh year was a Parliament at Rockingham-Castle in Northamptonshire Episcopis Abbatibus cunctisque regni Principibus una coeuntibus A year or two after the same King de statu regni acturus c. called thither by the Command of his Writ the Bishops Abbots and all the Peers of the Kingdom At the Coronation of Hen. 1. All the People of the Kingdom of England were called and Laws were then made but it was Per Commune Concilium Baronum meorum by the Common Councel of my Barons In his 3 d. year the Peers of the Kingdom were called without any mention of the Commons and another a while after consensu Comitum Baronum by the consent of Earls and Barons Florentius Wigorniensis saith these are Statutes which Anselme and all the other Bishops in the Presence of King Henry by the assent of his Barons ordained and in his tenth year of Earls and Peers and in his 23. of Earls and Barons In the year following the same King held a Parliament or great Councel with His Barons Spiritual and Temporal King Hen. 2. in his tenth year had a great Councel or Parliament at Clarendon which was an Assembly of Prelates and Peers 22 Hen. 2. saith Hovenden was a great Councel at Nottingham and by the Common Councel of the Arch-bishops Bishops Earls and Barons the Kingdom was divided into six parts And again Hovenden saith that the same King at Windsor apud Windeshores Communi Concilio of Bishops Earls and Barons divided England into four Parts And in his 21 Year a Parliament at Windsor of Bishops Earls and Barons And another of like Persons at Northampton King Richard 1. had a Parliament at Nottingham in his fifth year of Bishops Earls and Barons This Parliament lasted but four days yet much was done in it the first day the King disseiseth Gerard de Canvil of the Sherifwick of Lincoln and Hugh Bardolph of the Castle and Sherifwick of York The second day he required Judgment against his Brother John who was afterwards King and Hugh de Novant Bishop of Coventry The third day was granted to the King of every Plow-land in England 2 s. He required also the third part of the Service of every Knights Fee for his Attendance into Normandy and all the Wool that year of the Monks Cisteaux which for that it was grievous and unsupportable they sine for Money The last day was for Hearing of Grievances and so the Parliament brake up And the same year held another at Northampton of the Nobles of the Realm King John in his fifth year He and his Great men met Rex Magnates convenerunt and the Roll of that year hath Commune Concilium Baronum Meorum the Common Councel of my Barons at Winchester In the sixth year of King Henry 3. the Nobles granted to the King of every Knights Fee two Marks in Silver In the seventh year he had a Parliament at London an Assembly of Barons In his thirteenth year an Assembly of the Lords at Westminster In his fifteenth year of Nobles both Spiritual and Temporal M. Par. saith that 20 H. 3. Congregati sunt Magnates ad colloquium de negotiis regni tractaturi the Great men were called to confer and treat of the Business of the Kingdom And at Merton Our Lord the King granted by the Consent of his Great men That hereafter Vsury should not run against a Ward from the Death of his Ancestor 21 Hen. 3. The King sent his Royal Writs commanding all belonging to His Kingdom that is to say Arch-bishops Bishops Abbots and Priors installed Earls and Barons that they should all meet at London to treat of the King's Business touching the whole Kingdom and at the day prefixed the whole multitude of the Nobles of the Kingdom met at London saith Matt. Westminster In his 21 year At the Request and by the Councel of the Lords the Charters were confirmed 22 Hen. 3. At Winchester the King sent his Royal Writs to Arch-bishops Bishops Priors Earls and Barons to treat of Business concerning the whole Kingdom 32 Hen. 3. The King commanded all the Nobility of the whole Kingdom to be called to treat of the State of His Kingdom Matt. Westm ' 49 Hen. 3. The King had a Treaty at Oxford with the Peers of the Kingdom Matt. Westminster At a Parliament at Marlborough 55. Hen. 3. Statutes were made by the Assent of Earls and Barons Here the Place of Bracton Chief Justice in this Kings time is worth the observing and the rather for that it is much insisted on of late to make for Parliaments being above the King The words in Bracton are The King hath a Superiour God also the Law by which he is made King also his Court viz. the Earls and Barons The Court that was said in those days to be above the King was a Court of Earls and Barons not a word of the Commons or the representative Body of the Kingdom being any part of the Superiour Court Now for the true Sense of Bractons words how the Law and the Court of Earls and Barons are the Kings Superiours they must of Necessity be understood to be Superiours so far only as to advise and direct the King out of his own Grace and Good Will only which appears plainly by the Words of Bracton himself where speaking of the King he resolves thus Nec potest ei necessitatem aliquis imponere quod injuriam suam corrigat emendat cum superiorem non habeat nisi Deum satis ei erat ad poenam quod Dominum expectat ultorem Nor can any man put a necessity upon him to correct and amend his Injury unless he will himself since he hath no Superiour but God it will be sufficient Punishment for him to expect the Lord an Avenger Here the same man who speaking according to some mens Opinion saith the Law and Court of Earls and Barons are superiour to the King in this place tells us himself the King hath no Superiour but God the Difference is easily reconciled according to the Distinction of the School-men the King is free from the Coactive Power of Laws or Counsellors but may be subject to their Directive Power according to his own Will
that is God can only compel but the Law and his Courts may advise Him Rot. Parliament 1 Hen. 4. nu 79. the Commons expresly affirm Judgment in Parliament belongs to the King and Lords These Precedents shew that from the Conquest until a great part of Henry the Third's Reign in whose days it is thought the Writ for Election of Knights was framed which is about two hundred years and above a third part of the time since the Conquest to our days the Barons made the Parliament or Common Councel of the Kingdom under the name of Barons not only the Earls but the Bishops also were Comprehended for the Conquerour made the Bishops Barons Therefore it is no such great Wonder that in the Writ we find the Lords only to be the Counsellors and the Commons Called only to perform and consent to the Ordinances Those there be who seem to believe that under the word Barons anciently the Lords of Court-Barons were comprehended and that they were Called to Parliament as Barons but if this could be proved to have been at any time true yet those Lords of Court-Barons were not the representative Body of the Commons of England except it can be also proved that the Commons or Free-holders of the Kingdom chose such Lords of Court-Barons to be present in Parliament The Lords of Manors came not at first by Election of the People as Sir Edw. Coke treating of the Institution of Court-Barons resolves us in these words By the Laws and Ordinances of ancient Kings and especially of King Alfred it appeareth that the first Kings of this Realm had all the Lands of England in Demean and les grand Manors and Royalties they reserved to themselves and of the remnant they for the Defence of the Realm enfeoffed the Barons of the Realm with such Jurisdiction as the Court-Baron now hath Coke's Institutes First part Fol. 58. Here by the way I cannot but note that if the first Kings had all the Lands of England in Demean as Sir Edw. Coke saith they had And if the first Kings were chosen by the People as many think they were then surely our Fore-fathers were a very bountiful if not a prodigal People to give all the Lands of the whole Kingdom to their Kings with Liberty for them to keep what they pleased and to give the Remainder to their Subjects clogg'd and encumbred with a Condition to defend the Realm This is but an ill sign of a limited Monarchy by original Constitution or Contract But to conclude the former point Sir Edward Coke's Opinion is that in the ancient Laws under the name of Barons were comprised all the Nobility This Doctrine of the Barons being the Common Councel doth displease many and is denied as tending to the Disparagement of the Commons and to the Discredit and Confutation of their Opinion who teach that the Commons are assigned Councellors to the King by the People therefore I will call in Mr. Pryn to help us with his Testimony He in his Book of Treachery Disloyalty c. proves that before the Conquest by the Laws of Edward the Confessor cap. 17. The King by his Oaths was to do Justice by the Councel of the Nobles of his Realm He also resolves that the Earls and Barons in Parliament are above the King and ought to bridle him when he exorbitates from the Laws He further tells us the Peers Prelates have oft translated the Crown from the right Heir 1. Electing and Crowning Edward who was illegitimate and putting by Ethelred the right Heir after Edgars decease 2. Electing and Crowning Canutus a meer Foreigner in opposition to Edmund the right Heir to King Ethelred 3. Harold and Hardiknute both elected Kings successively without title Edmund and Alfred the right Heirs being dispossessed 4. The English Nobility upon the Death of Harold enacted that none of the Danish bloud should any more reign over them 5. Edgar Etheling who had best Title was rejected and Harold elected and crowned King 6. In the second and third year of Edw. 2. the Peers and Nobles of the Land seeing themselves contemned entreated the King to manage the Affairs of the Kingdom by the Councel of his Barons He gave his Assent and sware to ratifie what the Nobles ordained and one of their Articles was that He would thenceforward order all the Affairs of the Kingdom by the Councel of his Clergy and Lords 7. William Rufus finding the greatest part of the Nobles against him sware to Lanfranke that if they would choose him for King he would abrogate their over-hard Laws 8. The Beginning saith Mr. Pryn of the Charter of Hen. 1. is observable Henry by the Grace of God of England c. Know ye That by the Mercy of God and Common Councel of the Barons of the Kingdom I am Crowned King 9. Maud the Empress the right Heir was put-by the Crown by the Prelates and Barons and Stephen Earl of Mortain who had no good Title assembling the Bishop and Peers promising the amendment of the Laws according to all their Pleasures and Liking was by them all proclaimed King 10 Lewis of France Crowned King by the Barons instead of King John All these Testimonies from Mr. Pryn may satisfie that anciently the Barons were the Common Councel or Parliament of England And if Mr. Pryn could have found so much Antiquity and Proof for the Knights Citizens and Burgesses being of the Common Councel I make no doubt but we should have heard from him in Capital Characters but alas he meets not with so much as these Names in those elder Ages He dares not say the Barons were assigned by the People Councellors to the King for he tells us every Baron in Parliament doth represent his own Person and speaketh in behalf of himself alone but in the Knights Citizens and Burgesses are represented the Commons of the whole Realm therefore every one of the Commons hath a greater voice in Parliament than the greatest Earl in England Nevertheless Master Pryn will be very well content if we will admit and swallow these Parliaments of Barons for the representative Body of the Kingdom and to that Purpose he cites them or to no Purpose at all But to prove the Treachery and Disloyalty of Popish Parliaments Prelates and Peers to their Kings which is the main Point that Master Pryn by the Title of his Book is to make good and to prove As to the second Point which is That until the time of Hen. 1. the Commons were not called to Parliament besides the general Silence of Antiquity which never makes mention of the Commons Coming to Parliament until that time our Histories say before his time only certain of the Nobility were called to Consultation about the most important affairs of the State He caused the Commons also to be assembled by Knights Citizens and Burgesses of their own Appointment much to the same purpose writes Sir Walter Raleigh saying it is held that the Kings of England
and Florence Becket should sue no further in their cause against Alice Radley Widow for Lands in Wolwich and Plumsted in Kent forasmuch as the matter had been heard first before the Councel of Edw. 4. after that before the President of the Requests of that King Hen. 7. and then lastly before the Councel of the said King 1 H. 7. In the time of Hen. 3. an Order or Provision was made by the Kings Councel and it was pleaded at the Common Law in Bar to a Writ of Dower the Plaintiffs Attorney could not deny it and thereupon the Judgment was ideo sine die It seems in those days an Order of the Kings Councel was either parcel of the Common Law or above it Also we may find the Judges have had Regard that before they would resolve or give Judgment in new Cases they consulted with the King 's Privy Councel In the case of Adam Brabson who was assaulted by R. W. in the Presence of the Justices of Assise at Westminster the Judges would have the Advice of the Kings Councel for in a like Case because R. C. did strike a Juror at Westminster which passed against one of his Friends It was adjudged by all the Councel that his right hand should be cut off and his Lands and Goods forfeited to the King Green and Thorp were sent by the Judges to the Kings Councel to demand of them whether by the Stat. of 14 Edw. 3.16 a word may be amended in a Writ and it was answered that a word may be well amended although the Stat. speaks but of a Letter or Syllable In the Case of Sir Thomas Ogthred who brought a Formedon against a poor man and his Wife they came and yielded to the Demandant which seemed suspitious to the Court whereupon Judgment was staid and Thorp said that in the like Case of Giles Blacket it was spoken of in Parliament and we were commanded that when any like should come we should not go to Judgment without good Advice therefore the Judges Conclusion was Sues au counsell comment ils voilent que nous devomus faire nous volums faire autrement ment en cest case sue to the Councel and as they will have us to do we will do and otherwise not in this Case 39 Edw. 3. Thus we see the Judges themselves were guided by the Kings Councel and yet the Opinions of Judges have guided the Lords in Parliament in Point of Law All the Judges of the Realm Barons of Exchequer of the Quoif the Kings learned Councel and the Civilians Masters of Chancery are called Temporal Assistants by Sir Edw. Coke and though he deny them Voices in Parliament yet he confesseth that by their Writ they have power both to treat and to give Counsel I cannot find that the Lords have any other Power by their Writ the Words of the Lords Writ are That you be present with us the Prelates Great men and Peers to treat and give your Counsel The Words of the Judges Writ are That you be present with Vs and others of the Councel and sometimes with Vs only to treat and give your Counsel The Judges usually joined in Committees with the Lords in all Parliaments even in Queen Eliz. Reign until her 39th Year and then upon the 7th of November the Judges were appointed to attend the Lords And whereas the Judges have liberty in the upper House it self upon leave given them by the L. Keeper to cover themselves now at Committees they sit always uncovered The Power of Judges in Parliament is best understood if we consider how the judicial Power of Peers hath been exercised in matter of Judicature we may find it hath been the Practice that though the Lords in the Kings Absence give Judgment in Point of Law yet they are to be directed and regulated by the Kings Judges who are best able to give Direction in the difficult Points of the Law which ordinarily are unknown to the Lords And therefore if any Errour be committed in the Kings Bench which is the highest ordinary Court of Common Law in the Kingdom that Errour must be redressed in Parliament And the manner is saith the Lord Chancellor Egerton If a Writ of Errour be sued in Parl. upon a Judgment given by the Judges in the Kings Bench the Lords of the higher House alone without the Commons are to examine the Errours The Lords are to proceed according to the Law and for their Judgments therein they are to be informed by the Advice and Councel of the Judges who are to inform them what the Law is and to direct them in their Judgment for the Lords are not to follow their own Discretion or Opinion otherwise 28 Hen. 6. the Commons made Sute that W. de la Pool D. of Suffolk should be committed to Prison for many Treasons and other Crimes the Lords of the higher House were doubtful what Answer to give the Opinion of the Judges was demanded their Opinion was that he ought not to be committed for that the Commons did not charge him with any particular Offence but with general Reports and Slanders this Opinion was allowed 31 Hen. 6. A Parliament being prorogued in the Vacation the Speaker of the House of Commons was condemned in a thousand Pounds Damages in an Action of Trespass and committed to Prison in Execution for the same when the Parliament was re-assembled the Commons made Sute to the King and Lords to have their Speaker delivered The Lords demanded the Opinion of the Judges whether he might be delivered out of Prison by Privilege of Parliament upon the Judges Answer it was concluded that the Speaker should remain in Prison according to the Law notwithstanding the Privilege of Parliament and that he was Speaker which Resolution was declared to the Commons by Moyle the Kings Serjeant at Law and the Commons were commanded in the Kings name by the Bishop of Lincoln in the absence of the Arch-bishop of Canterbury then Chancellor to chuse another Speaker 7 Hen. 8. A Question was moved in Parliament Whether Spiritual Persons might be convented before Temporal Judges for Criminal Causes there Sir John Fineux and the other Judges delivered their Opinion that they might and ought to be and their Opinion allowed and maintained by the King and Lords and Dr. Standish who before had holden the same Opinion was delivered from the Bishops I find it affirmed that in Causes which receive Determination in the House of Lords the King hath no Vote at all no more than in other Courts of ministerial Jurisdiction True it is the King hath no Vote at all if we understand by Vote a Voice among others for he hath no partners with him in giving Judgement But if by no Vote is meant He hath no Power to judge we despoil him of his Sovereignty It is the chief Mark of Supremacy to judge in the highest Causes and last Appeals This the Children of Israel full well understood when they petitioned for a King
of the Upper House to be Suppliants with them of the Lower House unto her Majesty for entailing the Succession of the Crown Whereof a Bill was ready drawn by them Her Majesty was highly displeased herewith as contrary to her former strait Command and charged the Councel to call the Parties before them Sir Thomas Henage sent for them and after Speech with them commanded them to forbear the Parliament and not to go out of their several Lodgings after they were called before the Lord Treasurer the Lord Buckhurst and Sir Thomas Henage Mr. Wentworth was committed by them to the Tower Sir Henry Bromley with Mr. Richard Stephens to whom Sir Henry Bromley had imparted the Matter were sent to the Fleet as also Mr. Welch the other Knight for Worcestershire In the same Parliament Mr. Morrice Attorney of the Court of Wards moved against the hard Courses of the Bishops Ordinaries and other Ecclesiastical Judges in their Courts used towards sundry Learned and godly Ministers and Preachers and spake against Subscriptions and Oaths and offer'd a Bill to be read against Imprisonment for refusal of Oaths Mr. Dalton opposed the Reading of it as a thing expresly against Her Majesties Command to meddle in Doctor Lewin shewed that Subscription was used even at Geneva At two of the clock the same day the Speaker Mr. Coke afterwards Sir Edward Coke was sent for to the Court where the Queen Her self gave him in Command a Message to the House She told him It being wholly in Her Power to Call to Determine to Assent or Dissent to any thing done in Parliament that the Calling of This was only that the Majesty of God might be more religiously observed by compelling by some sharp Laws such as neglect that Service and that the Safety of Her Majesties Person and the Realm might be provided for It was not meant they should meddle with Matters of State or Causes Ecclesiastical for so Her Majesty termed them she wondred that any could be of so high Commandement to attempt they were Her own words a thing so expresly contrary to that which she had commanded wherefore with this She was highly offended And because the words spoken by my Lord Keeper are not now perhaps well remembred or some be now here that were not then present Her Majesties present Charge and express Command is that no Bill touching the said matter of State or Reformation in Causes Ecclesiastical be exhibited and upon my Allegiance saith Mr. Coke I am charged if any such Bill be exhibited not to read it I have been credibly informed that the Queen sent a Messenger or Serjeant at Arms into the House of Commons and took out Mr. Morrice and committed him to Prison within few days after I find Mr. Wroth moved in the House that they might be humble Suitors to Her Majesty that She would be pleased to set at liberty those Members of the House that were restrained To this it was answered by the Privy Counsellors That Her Majesty had committed them for Causes best known to Her self and to press Her Highness with this Suit would but hinder them whose Good is sought that the House must not call the Queen to account for what she doth of Her Royal Authority that the Causes for which they are restrained may be High and Dangerous that Her Majesty liketh no such Questions neither doth it become the House to search into such matters In the 39 Eliz. The Commons were told their Privilege was Yea and No and that Her Majesties Pleasure was that if the Speaker perceived any idle Heads which would not stick to hazard their own Estates which will meddle with reforming the Church and transforming the Commonweal and do exhibit Bills to that purpose the Speaker should not receive them till they were viewed and considered by those whom it is fitter should consider of such things and can better judge of them and at the end of this Parliament the Queen refused to pass 48 Bills which had passed both Houses In the 28 of Eliz. the Queen said She was sorry the Commons medled with chusing and returning Knights of the Shire for Norfolk a thing impertinent for the House to deal withal and only belonging to the Office and Charge of the Lord Chancellor from whom the Writs issue and are returned 4 Hen. 4. The 10 of October the Chancellor before the King declared the Commons had sent to the King praying him that they might have Advice and Communication with certain Lords about Matters of Business in Parliament for the common good of the Realm which Prayer Our Lord the King graciously granted making Protestation he would not do it of Duty nor of Custom but of his special Grace at this time and therefore Our Lord the King charged the Clerk of the Parliament that this Protestation should be entred on Record upon the Parliament-Roll which the King made known to them by the Lord Say and his Secretary how that neither of Due nor of Custom our Lord the King ought to grant any Lords to enter into Communication with them of Matters touching the Parliament but by his special Grace at this time he hath granted their Request in this Particular upon which matter the said Steward and Secretary made Report to the King in Parliament that the said Commons knew well that they could not have any such Lords to commune with them of any Business of Parliament without special Grace and Command of the King Himself It hath heretofore been a question whether it be not an Infringing and Prejudice to the Liberties and Privileges of the House of Commons for them to joyn in Conference with the Lords in Cases of Benevolence or Contribution without a Bill In the 35 Eliz. on Tuesday the first of March Mr. Egerton Attorney General and Doct. Cary came with a Message from the Lords their Lordships desired to put the House in remembrance of the Speech delivered by the Lord Keeper the first day for Consultation and Provision of Treasure to be had against the great and imminent Dangers of the Realm thereupon their Lordships did look to have something from the Houses touching those Causes before this time and yet the Parliament had sate but three days for it began Feb. 26. and therefore their Lordships had hitherto omitted to do any thing therein themselves And thereupon their Lordships desired that according to former laudable Usages between both Houses in such like Cases a Committee of Commons may have Conference with a Committee of Lords touching Provision of Treasure against the great Dangers of the Realm which was presently resolved by the whole House and they signified to their Lordships the willing and ready Assent of the whole House At the Meeting the Lords negatively affirm not to assent to less than three Subsidies and do insist for a second Conference M. Francis Bacon yielded to the Subsidy but opposed the joyning with the Lords as contrary to the Privileges of the House of Commons
〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifies a House Nor doth Aristotle confine a Family to One House but esteems it to be made of those that daily converse together whereas before him Charondas called a Family Homosypioi those that feed together out of one common Pannier And Epimenides the Cretian terms a Family Homocapnoi those that sit by a Common Fire or Smoak But let Suarez understand what he please by Adam's Family if he will but confess as he needs must that Adam and the Patriarchs had Absolute power of Life and Death of Peace and War and the like within their Houses or Families he must give us leave at least to call them Kings of their Houses or Families and if they be so by the Law of Nature what Liberty will be left to their Children to dispose of Aristotle gives the Lie to Plato and those that say Political and Oeconomical Societies are all one and do not differ Specie but only Multitudine Paucitate as if there were no difference betwixt a Great House and a Little City All the Argument I find he brings against them is this The Community of Man and Wife differs from the Community of Master and Servant because they have several Ends. The Intention of Nature by Conjunction of Male and Female is Generation but the Scope of Master and Servant is Preservation so that a Wife and a Servant are by Nature distinguished because Nature does not work like the Cutlers of Delphos for she makes but one thing for one Use If we allow this Argument to be sound nothing doth follow but only this That Conjugal and Despotical Communities do differ But it is no consequence That therefore Oeconomical and Political Societies do the like for though it prove a Family to consist of two distinct Communities yet it follows not that a Family and a Commonwealth are distinct because as well in the Commonweal as in the Families both these Communities are found And as this Argument comes not home to our Point so it is not able to prove that Title which it shews for for if it should be granted which yet is false that Generation and Preservation differ about the Individuum yet they agree in the General and serve both for the Conservation of Mankind Even as several Servants differ in the particular Ends or Offices as one to Brew and another to Bake yet they agree in the general Preservation of the Family Besides Aristotle confesses that amongst the Barbarians as he calls all them that are not Grecians a Wife and a Servant are the same because by Nature no Barbarian is fit to Govern It is fit the Grecians should rule over the Barbarians for by Nature a Servant and a Barbarian is all one their Family consists only of an Ox for a Man-Servant and a Wife for a Maid so they are fit only to rule their Wives and their Beasts Lastly Aristotle if it had pleased him might have remembred That Nature doth not always make one Thing but for one Use he knows the Tongue serves both to Speak and to Taste 4. But to leave Aristotle and return to Suarez he saith that Adam had Fatherly Power over his Sons whilst they were not made Free Here I could wish that the Jesuite had taught us how and when Sons become Free I know no means by the Law of Nature It is the Favour I think of the Parents only who when their Children are of Age and Discretion to ease their Parents of part of their Fatherly Care are then content to remit some part of their Fatherly authority therefore the Custom of some Countreys doth in some Cases Enfranchise the Children of suferiour Parents but many Nations have no such Custome but on the contrary have strict Laws for the Obedience of Children the Judicial Law of Moses giveth full power to the Father to stone his disobedient Son so it be done in presence of a Magistrate And yet it did not belong to the Magistrate to enquire and examine the justness of the Cause But it was so decreed lest the Father should in his Anger suddenly or secretly kill his Son Also by the Laws of the Persians and of the People of the Upper Asia and of the Gaules and by the Laws of the West-Indies the Parents have power of Life and Death over their Children The Romans even in their most Popular Estate had this Law in force and this Power of Parents was ratified and amplified by the Laws of the Twelve Tables to the enabling of Parents to sell their Children two or three times over By the help of the Fatherly Power Rome long flourished and oftentimes was freed from great Dangers The Fathers have drawn out of the very Assemblies their own Sons when being Tribunes they have published Laws tending to Sedition Memorable is the Example of Cassius who threw his Son headlong out of the Consistory publishing the Law Agraria for the Division of Lands in the behoof of the People and afterwards by his own private Judgment put him to Death by throwing him down from the Tarpeian Rock the Magistrates and People standing thereat amazed and not daring to resist his Fatherly Authority although they would with all their Hearts have had that Law for the Division of Land by which it appears it was lawful for the Father to dispose of the Life of his Child contrary to the Will of the Magistrates or People The Romans also had a Law that what the Children got was not their own but their Fathers although Solon made a Law which acquitted the Son from Nourishing of his Father if his Father had taught him no Trade whereby to get his Living Suarez proceeds and tells us That in Process of Time Adam had compleat Oeconomical Power I know not what this compleat Oeconomical Power is nor how or what it doth really and essentially differ from Political If Adam did or might exercise the same Jurisdiction which a King doth now in a Commonwealth then the Kinds of Power are not distinct and though they may receive an Accidental Difference by the Amplitude or Extent of the Bounds of the One beyond the Other yet since the like Difference is also found in Political Estates It follows that Oeconomical and Political Power differ no otherwise than a Little Commonweal differs from a Great One. Next saith Suarez Community did not begin at the Creation of Adam It is true because he had no body to Communicate with yet Community did presently follow his Creation and that by his Will alone for it was in his power only who was Lord of All to appoint what his Sons should have in Proper and what in Common so that Propriety and Community of Goods did follow Originally from him and it is the Duty of a Father to provide as well for the Common Good of his Children as the Particular Lastly Suarez Concludes That by the Law of Nature alone it is not due unto any Progenitor to be also King