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A31642 Treason's master-piece, or, A conference held at Whitehall between Oliver, the late usurper, and a committee of the then pretended Parliament who desired him to take upon him the title of King of England ... : wherein many of the leading-men of those times did, by unanswerable arguments, assert and prove monarchy to be the only legal ancient, and necessary form of government in these kingdoms / collected by a faithful hand.; Monarchy asserted to be the best, most ancient and legall form of government Fiennes, Nathaniel, 1607 or 8-1669.; Whitlocke, Bulstrode, 1605-1675 or 6. 1680 (1680) Wing C19; ESTC R14983 78,281 128

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Treason's Master-piece OR A CONFERENCE Held at WHITEHALL BETWEEN OLIVER The late USURPER AND A COMMITTEE OF The then pretended PARLIAMENT Who desired him To take upon him the Title of KING of England c. with an intent to exclude the ROYAR LINE WHEREIN Many of the Leading-men of those times did by unanswerable Arguments assert and prove MONARCHY to be the only legal ancient and necessary form of Government in these Kingdoms Collected by a faithful hand LONDON Printed for Daniel Major at the Hand and Scepter in Fleetstreet near St. Du●stan's-Church 1680. THE PREFACE IT may be said and that very truely That this Island of Great Britain which though so called is but as it were a Span of ground if compared with many Islands in the Universe hath been a greater Stage or Field of Blood for many Centuries of years last past than any other Island or Nation in the world though of far larger Dimensions and capacity of People And what hath been the occasion of those tragical Revolutions which have happened therein especially in the last Age is too easie for any impartial man to judge if he observe the Series of the several Passages from 1641 to 1659. The strange Jealousies of the Government which had crept into the minds of the People and the desire of Change a thing natural to the Vulgar together with the subtile Artifices of the principal Engines of the late Confusions who stimulated the Disloyalty of the People under a specious pretence of Piety and Reformation when indeed nothing but Covetousness and vile Ambition as the chief End and Rebellion as the means to attain to that End lay like the Snake in the Grass did diffuse such a general Infection through the Veins of the whole Kingdom as if nothing but the Swords of the Incendiaries could have been the Instruments to let out that ill Bloud They directed their Points against the credulous People as well as against the King who they said had offended They slaughtered many and many thousands of poor cheated and deluded men as well as embrued their hands in the bloud of their sacred and lawful Soveraign They deceived their ignorant Fellow-subjects as the Turkish Emperours are mentioned in Story to impose upon their common Souldiers who when their Armies were to ford any unpassable River were wont to perswade them that as many of them as would throw themselves in and make a Pile with their Bodies which should fill or dam up that depth should be sure to go to Elysium Thus did these Time-Reformers wade through the Gore of the ignorant People till they had arrived to the desired shore of their Lust and Ambition But no sooner were they gotten into the Seat of Supremacy but they fell out amongst themselves like so many Robbers for a Booty who should have the greatest share in the Spoil and Havock they had made of a Rich and Opulent Kingdom and who should be the Governours to prescribe Laws and Methods of Regiment over the People And at last the stronger Party of them found it was necessary to keep that Power they had by Arbitrary Government viz. force of Arms such a Force as before they dreamt was intended against them And when they saw their illegal form of No-Government was not like to be long-liv'd and found by Experience that the Nation could be no longer supported under nor relieved from the Exorbitancies of their confused Anarchy then they had Wit enough to prove by Arguments that MONARCHY was the onely LEGAL ANCIENT and NECESSARY Form of Government though they had not so much Honesty as to restore that King to his Throne who had Right to rule over them but endeavoured to set up an Usurper From whence may be concluded That it was not Monarchy alone they first struck at but the utter Exclusion of the Royal Line And this Artifice had certainly taken effect had it not been prevented by the under-hand Policies of Lambert and some others of the then Ring-leaders for though Cromwel made a seeming Denyal yet it might have been fatal to have trusted him too far And now Reader having said this I think I need not make any Apology for the publishing the ensuing Collection at such a time as this is a time which looks so black and dismal which seems to be as it were the Ghost or representation in Effigie of 1641 a Time wherein the Government is threatned by two vast Extreams and seems to stand inter Scyllam Charybdim And I could heartily wish that a due Consideration of what is herein contained may serve to the converting the mindes of several persons who I fear are almost ready to revive the Good Old Cause and act over the old Tragedy again And seeing Regal Government is the great Basis on which the Welfare of this Kingdom stands I wish that all English men would be so far from thinking of the alteration of this admirable Constitution as to bless Almighty God that we have a King already such a King whose transcendent Clemency towards us hath far exceeded our deserts such a King to whom next under God we owe our Laws Religion Wealth Liberty and Property and who graciously condescended to pass An Act of Oblivion upon his Restauration Therefore pray for an Establishment of the present Government to the end of days as prayeth A hearty lover of his King and Country C. C. Thursday the Ninth of April 1657. ORdered by the Parliament that a Committee be appointed to wait upon his Highness the Lord Protector in reference to what his Highness did yesterday propose in his Speech now reported to the House Resolved That this Committee have power to receive from his Highness his doubts and scruples touching any of the particulars contained in the humble Petition and Advice formerly presented and in answer thereunto to offer to his Highness reasons for his satisfaction and for the maintainance of the Resolutions of this House and such particulars as they cannot satisfie his Highness in that they report the same to the Parliament The Names of the Committee Lord Whitlock Lord Broghill Master of the Rolls Lord Commissioner Lisle Mr. Waller Lord Chief Justice Sir Charles Woolseley Gen. Montague Col. Jepson Sir Thomas Jones Sir William Strickland Col. Thistlethwait Lord Commissioner Fines Sir Richard Onslow Sir Rich. Lucy Mr. Secretary Atturney of the Dutchy Atturney General Mr. Godfrey Lord Howard Col. Jones Col. Carter Col. Whitgrave Col. Brooks Mr. Lee. Mr. Jenkinson Mr. Bampfield Mr. Drake Col. Ingoldsby Mr. Pitts Mr. Pickering Lord Cockram Mr. Grove Mr. Lloyd Mr. Nath. Bacon Mr. Ingoldsby Lord Provost of Edenb Mr. Bedfor Col. Ireland Col. Hacker Major Wagstaffe Mr. Franc. Bacon Mr. Downing Mr. Price Maj. Gen. Whaley Sir John Reynolds Mr. Steward Sir Christ Pack Mr. Lawrence Alderm Foot Capt. Lilburne Sir William Roberts Mr. Trevor Mr. Baron Parker Mr. Tigh Sir John Hobart Mr. Hamden Mr. Cromwell Mr. Throgmortou Mr. Fleetwood Mr. Philips Maj. Gen. Goffe Mr. Fowell
Major Audley Col. Wilton Major Morgan Col. Wood. Maj. Gen. Berry Lord Strickland Lord Cleypoole Mr. Barkley Major Burton Mr. Dunch Col. Marckham Major Aston Maj. Gen. Bridges Sir Tho. Rouse Mr. Bond. Col. Fowkes Col. Bridges Mr. Moody Col. Grovesnor Mr. Gorges Earl of Tivedale Sir John Weesnes Dr. Dowglas Major Beake Mr. Briscoe Capt. Stone Mr. Lucy Col. Harvey Sir Lislebone Long. Mr. Thelwall Sir Edward Roads Sir Francis Norris Col. Sydenham Mr. Rouse Mr. Tromball Mr. Burton To meet forthwith in the Speaker 's Chamber Resolved That this Committee have Power to appoint some of their number to attend his Highness to desire him to appoint a time when they may wait upon him according to those Votes Hen. Scobell Clerk of the Parliament The Lord Whitlock 11 April I Only understand that by Order of the Parliament this Committee are tied up to receive what your Highness shall be pleased to offer as to your Doubts or Scruples upon this Paper The very words of the Order are That the Committee have Power to attend your Highness to receive from your Highness your Doubts and Scruples touching any the particulars contained in the humble Petition and Advice formerly presented and in answer thereunto to offer to your Highness Reasons for your Satisfaction and for the maintenance of the Resolutions of the House and such particulars as we cannot satisfie your Highness in that we may report the same to the Parliament what particulars your Highness shall think fit to object Your Highness is pleased to mention the Government as it now is and seems to some of our apprehensions as if your Highness did make that an Objection If the Government be well why do you change it If that be intended by your Highness as an Objection in the general I suppose the Committee will give you satisfaction Lord Protector SIR I think that neither you nor I but meet with a very good heart to come to some issue of this great business and truly that is that I cannot assure you I have all the reason and argument in the world to move me to it and am exceeding ready to be ordered by you in the way of proceeding onely I confess according to those thoughts I have as I have answered my own thoughts in preparing for such a work as this is I have made this notion of it to my self That having met you twice at the Committee first and returned you that answer that I gave you then and the House a second time I do perceive that the favour and the indulgence that the House shews me in this is that I might receive satisfaction I know they might have been positive in the thing and said they had done enough if they had onely made such an address to me they might have insisted upon it onely to offer it yet I could plainly see it was my satisfaction they aimed at I think really and sincerely it is my satisfaction that they intend and truely I think there is one clause in the Paper that doth a little warrant that to offer such reasons for his satisfaction and for the maintainance of the Resolutions of the House Now Sir it 's true the occasion of all this is the answer that I made that occasions a Committee to come hither in order to my satisfaction and truly Sir I doubt if you will draw out those reasons from me I will offer them to you but I doubt on my own part if you should proceed that way it would put me a little out of the method of my own thoughts and it being mutual satisfaction that is endeavoured if you will do me the favour it will more agree with my method I shall take it as a favour if it please you I will leave you to consider together your own thoughts of it Lord Whitlock THe Committee that are commanded by the Parliament and are here present to wait upon your Highness I do suppose cannot undertake to give the Reasons of the Parliament for that they have done but any Gentleman here can give his own particular apprehension for your Highness satisfaction and if you will be pleased to go in the way which you have propounded and either in general or in particular to require a satisfaction from the Committee I suppose we shall be ready to do the best we can to give you satisfaction Lord Protector I Think if this be so then I suppose nothing can be said by you but what the Parliament hath dictated to you and I think that is clearly exprest that the Parliament intends satisfaction then is it as clear that there must be Reasons and Arguments that have light and conviction in them in order to satisfaction I speak for my self in this I hope you will think it no otherwise I say it doth appear so to me that you have the liberty of your own reasons I think if I should write any of them I cannot call this the Reason of the Parliament The Parliament in determinations and conclusions by Votes of the several particulars of the Government that Reason is dilated and diffused and every man hath a share of it and therefore when they have determined such a thing certainly it was reason that led them up into it and if you shall be pleased to make me partaker of some of that Reason I do very respectfully represent to you that I have a general dissatisfaction at the thing and I do desire that I may be informed in the grounds that lead you whom I presume are all satisfied persons to the thing and every part of it and if you will be pleased to think so fit I will not farther urge it upon you To proceed that way it will be a favour to me otherwise I shall deal plainly with you It doth put me out of the method of my own conceptions and then I shall beg that I may have an hours deliberation that we might meet again in the Afternoon Lord Chief-Justice THe Parliament sent us to wait upon your Highness to give your Highness any satisfaction that is in our understandings to give the whole Paper consists of many Heads and if your Highness intend satisfaction the Propositions being general we can give but general Satisfaction and therein we are ready if that be your Highness meaning I think we shall be ready to give satisfaction as far as our Understandings Lord Protector IF you will please to give me leave I do agree truely the thing is a general as it is either falling under the notion of Settlement that 's a general that consists of many particulars and truely if you call it by that that it is Tituled there it is general it is Advice Desires and Advice and that the truth is that I have made my Objection in is but to one thing as yet only the last time I had the honour to meet the Parliament I did offer to them that they would put me into a condition to receive satisfaction to the