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other_o their_o be_v a_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n 1._o
noble_n 77._o ut_fw-la episcopi_fw-la abbates_n comites_fw-la &_o potentiores_fw-la quique_fw-la si_fw-la causam_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la habuerint_fw-la ac_fw-la se_fw-la pacificare_fw-la noluerint_fw-la ad_fw-la nostram_fw-la jubeantur_fw-la venire_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la neque_fw-la illorum_fw-la contentio_fw-la aliubi_fw-la judicetur_fw-la but_o in_o this_o court_n they_o challenge_v that_o as_o their_o privilege_n to_o be_v try_v by_o their_o peer_n who_o be_v call_v pares_fw-la curiae_fw-la 1434._o so_o the_o emperor_n sigismond_n in_o his_o protestation_n before_o the_o state_n of_o the_o empire_n cum_fw-la secundùm_fw-la juris_fw-la communis_fw-la dispositionem_fw-la nec_fw-la non_fw-la usum_fw-la morem_fw-la stylum_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la sacri_fw-la romani_fw-la imperii_fw-la feudalis_fw-la contentio_fw-la per_fw-la dominum_fw-la feudi_fw-la ac_fw-la pares_fw-la curiae_fw-la terminanda_fw-la sit_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o again_o nisi_fw-la parium_n nostrae_fw-la curiae_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la galâ—icis_fw-la so_o likewise_o in_o france_n as_o tilius_fw-la say_v haec_fw-la judiciorum_fw-la ratio_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la causis_fw-la feudalibus_fw-la judicent_fw-la feudales_n pares_fw-la 96._o in_o gallia_n est_fw-la perantiqua_fw-la so_o in_o fulbertus_n one_o count_n send_v word_n to_o another_o that_o their_o cause_n shall_v not_o be_v determine_v nisi_fw-la in_o conventu_fw-la parium_n suorum_fw-la and_o many_o other_o example_n may_v be_v produce_v but_o these_o be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v we_o understand_v the_o true_a original_a of_o this_o right_n of_o peerage_n which_o be_v from_o the_o feodal_n law_n and_o all_o those_o who_o hold_v of_o the_o same_o lord_n and_o by_o the_o same_o tenure_n be_v say_v to_o be_v pares_fw-la peer_n and_o therefore_o since_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n be_v baron_n by_o tenure_n ever_o since_o william_n i._o by_o consequence_n they_o be_v peer_n to_o other_o baron_n and_o have_v the_o same_o original_n 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