Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
lord_n	baron_n	earl_n	king_n	15,398	5	3.8090	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A44191	Lord Hollis, his remains being a second letter to a friend, concerning the judicature of the bishops in Parliament, in the vindication of what he wrote in his first : and in answer to ... The rights of the bishops to judge in capital cases in Parliament, cleared, &c. : it contains likewise part of his intended answer to a second tractate, entituled, The grand question touching the bishops right to vote in Parliament, stated and argued : to which are added Considerations, in answer to the learned author of The grand question, &c., by another hand : and reflections upon some passages in Mr. Hunt's Argument upon that subject, &c., by a third.; Second letter to a friend concerning the judicature of the bishops in Parliament	Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680.; Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680. Letter of a gentleman to his friend.; Atwood, William, d. 1705? Reflections upon Antidotum Britannicum.	1682 (1682)	Wing H2466; ESTC R17318	217,539	444

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teach_v no_o body_n nor_o learn_v himself_o and_o certain_o the_o addition_n of_o populus_fw-la will_v do_v he_o little_a service_n but_o this_o author_n will_v be_v a_o excellent_a man_n be_v he_o as_o good_a at_o prove_v as_o propound_v vide_fw-la before_o p._n 18._o and_o after_o p._n 129._o morte_n &_o truncationes_fw-la melius_fw-la ut_fw-la videtur_fw-la jan._n angl._n fa._n nov_n pag._n 209._o 210._o n._n b._n nothing_o urge_v by_o mr._n hurt_n p._n 62._o do_v prove_v that_o meet_v a_o parliament_n but_o such_o a_o council_n as_o be_v free_a for_o the_o king_n to_o call_v of_o such_o person_n as_o he_o please_v i_o be_o sure_a here_o be_v neither_o abbot_n nor_o commons_o summon_v i_o presume_v this_o author_n never_o read_v fitz-stephens_n who_o word_n be_v considentibus_fw-la not_o consulentibus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la we_o have_v see_v such_o a_o concilium_fw-la magnum_fw-la at_o york_n call_v by_o king_n charles_n the_o first_o arguitur_fw-la i_o conceive_v do_v more_o 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p._n 40._o cook_n 2_o inst._n 631._o seld._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la gr._n q._n p._n 42_o gr._n q._n p._n 42._o ger._n dor._n an._n 1175._o legis_fw-la vigorem_fw-la habeat_fw-la quicquid_fw-la de_fw-la consilio_fw-la &_o de_fw-la consensu_fw-la magn._n &_o reipubl_n communi_fw-la sponsione_n authoritate_fw-la regis_fw-la sive_fw-la principis_fw-la praecedente_fw-la just_a fuerit_fw-la definitum_fw-la &_o approbatum_fw-la with_fw-mi bracton_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 1._o gr._n q._n p._n 44._o n._n b._n who_o be_v these_o other_o gr._n q._n p._n 47._o mr._n hunt_n tell_v you_o p._n 87._o that_n if_o this_o be_v a_o law_n it_o be_v a_o law_n only_o for_o that_o case_n it_o be_v true_a the_o protestation_n as_o such_o be_v personal_a to_o they_o but_o the_o canon_n i_o hope_v that_o put_v they_o upon_o a_o non_fw-la licet_fw-la and_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la be_v not_o personal_a also_o for_o here_o be_v a_o prohibition_n both_o by_o the_o canon_n common_a and_o statute_n 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to_o that_o purpose_n gr._n q._n p._n 79._o gr._n q._n p._n 88_o gr._n q._n p._n 88_o gr._n q._n p._n 94._o see_v before_o p._n 18._o in_o the_o edition_n in_o quarto_n pet._n bles._n 〈◊〉_d edit_fw-la p._n 551._o col_fw-fr 1_o 2._o in_o fol._n idem_fw-la p._n 552._o col_fw-fr 2._o cot._fw-la p._n 85._o 5_o e._n 3._o m._n 33._o rot._n parl._n 4._o e._n 3._o n._n 6._o 5_o e_z 3._o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la n._n b._n cotton_n abridg._n count_n and_o baron_n by_o lord_n as_o 〈◊〉_d often_o do_v gr._n qu._n p._n 95._o gr._n qu._n p._n 89._o cot._fw-la p._n 392._o rot._n claus._n 1_o e._n 3._o m._n 13._o pro_fw-la episc._n hereford_n gr._n qu._n p._n 102._o 102._o n._n b._n the_o king_n be_v go_v to_o the_o holy_a land_n be_v then_o in_o debate_n touch_v which_o the_o bishop_n may_v well_o consult_v matth._n paris_n p._n 55._o magnates_fw-la comprehendit_fw-la comes_fw-la baro_n mile_n seu_fw-la aliqua_fw-la alia_fw-la notabiles_fw-la persona_fw-la vid._n mr._n petyt_n p._n 101_o 94_o 95._o n._n 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157._o mr._n hunt_v p._n 158_o claus._n 47._o h._n 3._o m._n 7._o d._n claus._n 29._o e._n 1._o m._n 14_o d._n mr._n hunt_v 〈◊〉_d p._n 158._o vid._n jus_fw-la ang._n ab_fw-la antiquo_fw-la p._n 108._o benedictus_fw-la abbas_n sub_fw-la effigy_n julij_fw-la a._n 11._o f._n 72._o in_o bib._n cot._n cam_n ordines_fw-la angl._n p._n 61._o quarto_fw-la vid._n jan._n ang._n facies_fw-la nova_fw-la p._n 189._o tit._n of_o hon._n f._n 583._o hoveden_n f._n 494._o mr._n hunt_v p._n 153._o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la h._n 1._o spelman_n glos._n tit._n here●…tum_fw-la spelm._n glos._n tit._n heriot_n magna_fw-la charta_fw-la johannis_n rs._n p._n 163_o &_o 164._o after_o the_o statute_n of_o qua_fw-la emptores_fw-la entire_a service_n a●…_n fealty_n h●…rsots_v and_o the_o like_a may_v ●…e_v multioly_v to_o the_o lord_n upon_o the_o tenant_n parcel_a out_o the_o land_n but_o not_o before_o vid._n talbot_n c_o 8._o r._n f._n 105_o a._n so_o bruerton_n c._n 6._o rep._n f_o 1._o &_o 2._o 1_o inst._n f._n 93._o a._n mirror_n p._n 7._o 1_o inst._n f._n 58._o the_o author_n of_o antid_v brit._n build_v much_o upon_o this_o authority_n antid_v p._n 10._o 2_o inst._n f._n 65._o 1_o inst._n ibid._n mirror_n p._n 11._o ibid._n p._n 7._o vid._n spelman_n be_v council_n vol._n 1._o f._n 340._o rex_fw-la non_fw-la potuit_fw-la distrahere_fw-la patrimonium_fw-la regni_fw-la sine_fw-la assensu_fw-la procerum_fw-la dyer_n 〈◊〉_d eliz._n f._n 229._o b._n magna_fw-la charta_fw-la cap._n 32._o 2_o inst._n f._n 66._o 1_o instit._n f._n 142._o 2_o instit._n f._n 67._o 14_o h._n 3._o tit._n prerog_n stat._n de_fw-fr hibernia_n 1_o inst._n f._n 67._o a._n vid._n jus_fw-la ang._n p._n 34_o to_o 58_o &_o p._n 139._o mr._n petyt_n preface_n p._n 20._o so_o ro●…_n de_fw-fr temp_n r_n jo._n lord_n hales_n his_o collection_n in_o lincolns-inn_n lib._n jus_fw-la angl._n p._n 80_o to_o 100_o ibid._n p._n 112_o to_o 117._o addit_fw-la p._n 90._o jus_fw-la angl._n p._n 99_o to_o 106._o mr._n hunt_v p._n 130._o 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