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A36230 Honors pedigree, or, The [se]veral fountaines of gentry [be]ing a treatise of the distinct degrees of the nobilitie of this kingdome, with their rights and priviledges, according to the lawes and customes of England / [by] that juditious lawyer, Sir John Dodoredge ... Doddridge, John, Sir, 1555-1628. 1652 (1652) Wing D1793; ESTC R37279 103,037 198

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King of England as also to our selfe by our Letters Patents doe grant and give licence for us and our heires so much as in us lyeth to the said Edmond to dispose and give all his Manours Lands Tenements and Knights fees with their appurtenances and Advowsons of Churches Abbies and Priories and Hospitalls which he holdeth of us in chiefe to whom he pleaseth To have and to hold to him and his heires for us and our heires by the service thereof for ever By which Grant the said Edmond gave all his Lands and Tenements to one William sonne of John Deyncourt and to his heires of his body comming And the said Edmond dyed the last yeere of Edward the second and the said William in the time of Edward the third was summoned among other Barons to the Parliament by vertue of the same gift untill his death which was Anno 3. E. 3. It appeareth by divers offices in the time of King Edward the third that John Handlow in the right of Maud his wife was seized of the Mannour of Holgate Acton Burnell c. for terme of her life remainder to Nicolas Handlow alias Burnell sonne to the said Maud and John by a fine in the Court levied and that John Lovell was next heire of the said Maud and her first-borne sonne by her first husband and afterwards the said Nicolas was summoned among other Lords to the Parliament by reason of the fine aforesaid and not the said John Lovel who was next heire Edward Burnell Baron of Holgate Philip Burnell Baron of Holgate Maud Burnell heire to her brother John Lovell the first husband John Lord Lovell Iohn Lord Lovell John Handlow second husband Nicolas Handlow Baron of Holgate Hugh Handlow alias Burnell Baron of Holgate Thomas de Beauchamp the elder Earle of Warwick by a fine levied 18. E. 3. entailed the Mannour and Castle of Warwicke with divers other possessions to himselfe for terme of his life the remainder whereof to Guy his eldest sonne and to the heires males of his body issuing for want of such heires the remainder to come to Thomes Beauchamp brother to the foresaid Guy and to his heires males of his body issuing c. And afterwards the said G●y died without heires male of his body leaving two daughters and heires living afterward the said Earle dyed and the said Thomas the sonne entred into the Castle and Mannour aforesaid with other the premisses and was Earle of Warwick by reason of the entaile aforesaid notwithstanding that Katharine daughter of Guy and next heire to the said Thomas the elder was living 30. yeers after his death Thomas Beauchampe Earl of Warwick Guy de Beauchampe first son obiit ante patrem 30. E. 3 Katharine lived in 21. R. 2 Elizabeth Tho. de Beauchampe Earle of Warwicke by reason of the entail obiit anno 1. H. 4 Rich. Beauchamp Earl of Warwick obiit 17. H. 6 William Beauchamp de Beauchamp L. of Aberganey obiit 12. H. 4 Richard de Beauchamp Earl of Warwicke obiit 9. H. 5 Richard Earle of Arundell by a fine 21. E. 3. entailed the Castle Towne and Mannor of Arundell with other Lands to him and to his heires Males begotten of the body of Ellenor his wife By vertue of which entaile John Lord Matrovers Earle of Arundell after the decease of Thomas then Earle which died without heire Male although the sisters of the said Thomas possessed divers Lands and honors of the which the said Thomas died seised in Fee simple was Earle of Arundell Richard Earle of Arundell Richard Earle of Arundell obiit anno 21. R. 2 Thomas Earle of Arundell obiit anno 3. H. 5 Elizabeth married to Tho. Mowbray Duke Norfolk Jane Lady of Abergany Married to Lewthall John Arundell Knight Lord Matrovers John Arund Lord Matrovers obiit 6. H. 4 Io. Arund L. Matrovers obiit 9. H. 5 Io. E of Arun. by reason of the entail Thomas Lord Barkley was seised in his demesne as of fee of the Castle of Barkley and Mannour c. and a fine levied in the Kings Court 23 E. 3. of the aforesaid Castle Mannour c. to him for terme of his life remainder to Morrice his sonne and to the heires males of his body issuing with other remainders as aforesaid the which said Morrice had issue Thomas Lord Barkley and Iames Barkley Knight which Iames dyed in the life of his brother leaving Iames his sonne and heire living After the said Thomas Lord Barkley died Anno 5. H. 5. leaving Elizabeth his daughter and heir married to Richard Earle of Warwick after whose death Iames his Nephew on the brothers side entred into the Lands Castles and rem ' aforesaid by virtue of the entaile and was summoned among the Barons to the Parliament as Baron of Barkley 9. H. 5. which Elizabeth died in 1. H. 6. Tho. Lord Barkley Morrice Lo Barkley Tho. Lord Barkley Eliz. married to Rich. Earle of Warwick Sir Ia. Barkley died before his brother Iames Lo. Barkley by reason of the entaile Thomas Lord De la ware died seised in his demesne as of fee taile to himselfe and to the heires males of his body issuing by reason of a fine levied in the time of his ancestors of the Barony De la ware with divers other lands in other counties and died 5. H. 6. without heires of his body and Reignold West Knight of the halfe blood was next heire by reason of the entaile aforesaid and was summoned to the Parliament by the name of Reignold Lord De la ware Knight although Iohn Griffith was heire generall of the aforesaid Thomas De la ware being of the whole blood as appeareth by the genealogie ensuing Iohn Lord Delaware son of Roger. Iohn Lord Delaware Roger Lord Delaware Elisabeth daughter to Adam L. Wels. Iohn Lord De la ware died without issue Thomas Lord Dela ware died without issue Elisabeth daughter to the Lord Mowbray h●s second wife Iohn Griffin heire generall to the Lord Delaware Sir Reignold West Lord De la ware by the entail Katharine married to Nicolas Latimer Katharine married to Griffin Iohan married to Tho West Knight John de Vere Earle of Oxford seised in his demesne as of Fee taile to him and his heires Males of his body issuing of the honour and county of Oxford with divers other Lands Anno 18. H. 8. died without heires of his body and his three sisters were his next heires generall but Iohn de Vere his next heire Male as appeareth was Earle of Oxford by reason of the said entaile and none of the three sisters obtained Dignity Richard de Vere Earle of Oxford died 4. H. 5. Iohn de Vere Earle of Oxford deed 1. E. 4. John de Vere Earle of Oxford died without issue 4. H. 8. George de vere Knight Iohn de Vere Earl of Oxfo died without issue 18. H. 8. Eliz. married to Sir Antho. Wingfield Knight Ursula married to Edm. Knightley Esq Dorothy married to Nevill Sir Robert de Vere
their places and then may proceed upon any thing there moved lawfully as lawfull persons for it is not convenient that they who are attainted should be in places of law full Judges And then another question was moved What shall be said of the King himself for he also was attainted by his Predecessour Rich. 3. and after communication had amongst themselves all did agree that the King was a person able and discharged of any former attainder ipso facto That he took upon him to raign and to be King by which it manifestly appeareth that by the Laws of England there can be no inter regnum within the same that presently by descent the next heir in blood is cōpleatly and absolutely King without any essentiall Ceremony or act to be done ex post facto And that Coronation is but a royall ornament and outward solemnization of the descent and of this last matter Read Cooks 7 part fol. 10. 6. and that there followeth Of Dukes THe form of the Patent of Duke of York that now is Rex c. To all Archbishops Bishops Dukes Marquesses Earls Viscounts Barons Justices Governours Knights Ministers And to all Bailiffs and faithfull Subjects greeting Whereas We often times call to minde how many and innumerable gifts and what excellent benefits that great worker of all goodnesse of his only benignity and clemencie hath abundantly bestowed upon Us who by his power hath consociated divers and mighty Lyons in firm peace without any strife but also hath amplified and exalted the bounds and limits of our Government by his unspeakable providence above our progenitors with an indissolvible conjunction of the ancient and famous Kingdoms in the right of blood under our Imperiall Diadem in regard whereof we cannot but most willingly acknowledge our fruitfulnesse and issue plentifully adorned with the gift of Nature which he hath vouchsafed upon us because in truth in the succession of children a mortall man is made as it were immortall Neither unto any mortall men at leastwise unto Princes not acknowledging superiours can any thing happen in worldly cases more pleasant and acceptable then that their children should become notable in all vertues gooodnesse manners and increase of dignity so as they which excell others in noblenesse of bloud and indowments of Nature might not be thought of others to be exceeded Hence it is that that great goodness● of God which is shewed unto us in our fertility to passe in silence or to be thought not to satisfie the Law of Nature whereby we are chiefly provoked to be well affected and liberall to those in whom we behold our blood to begin to florish coveting with great and fatherly affection that the perpetuall memory of our blood with honours and increase of dignity and all praise may be affected Our well-beloved Son Charls Duke of Albany Marquesse of Ormond Count of Rosse and Lord of Ardmannoth Our second begotten son in whom the Royall form and beauty worthy honour and other gifts of vertue do now in the best hopes shine in his tender graces We erect create make and ordain and to him the name stile state title dignity authority and honour of the Duke of York do give and him of that Name with the title state stile honour authority and dignity with other honors to the same belonging and annexed by the girding of the sword cap circlet of gold put upon his head and the delivery of a golden Virge we do really invest to have and to hold the same name and stile state and dignity authority and honour of the Duke of York unto the aforesaid Charles our second begotten son and to his heirs males of his body lawfully begotten for ever And that the aforesaid Charles our second begotten son according to the decencie and state of the said name of Duke of York may more honorably carry himself we have given and granted and by this our present Charter we confirm for us and our heirs unto the aforesaid Duke forty pounds to have and yeerly to receive to the foresaid Duke and his heirs for ever out of the Farms issues profits and other commodities whatsoever comming out of the foresaid County of York by the hands of the Sheriffe of the same County for the time being at the Terms of Easter and Michael the Arch-angel by even portions for that expresse mention of other gifts and grants by us unto the same Duke before time made in these presents made doth not appear notwithstanding These be witnesses the most excellent and most beloved Henry Prince our first begotten son Vlrick Duke of Holst brother of the queen our beloved wife and the Reverend Father in Christ Richard Archbishop of Canterbury Primate and Metropolitan of all England and also our welbeloved and faithfull Councellour the Lord Elesmore and Chancellour of England Thomas Earl of Suffolk Chamberlain of our houshold and also our dear cousin Thomas Earl of Arundel and our well-beloved cousin and Councellour Henry Earl of Northumberland Edward Earl of Worcester Master of our horse George Earl of Cumberland and also our well-beloved cousins Henry Earl of Southampton William Earl of Pembroke and also our well-beloved cousins Charles Earl of Devon Master of our Ordinance Henry Earl of Northampton Warden of the Cinque-Ports John Earl of Marr Robert Viscount Eranborne our principall Secretary and our well-beloved and faithfull Councellour Edward Lord Zuch President of out Councell in the Principality and Marches of Wales and also our wel-beloved and trusty Robert Lord Willoughby of Earsby William Lord Mounteagle Gray Lord Chandois William Lord Compton Francis Lord Norris Robert Lord Sidney our well-beloved and faithfull Councellours William Lord Knowles Treasurer of our houshold Edward Lord Wotton Comptroller of our houshold and our well-beloved and faithfull Councellour Alexander Lord and also our wel-beloved and faithfull Councellors George Dunbarr Lord of Barwick Chancellour of our Exchequer Edward Lord Bruse of Kinlose Master of the Rolls of our Chancery and also our faithfull and well-beloved Thomas Lord Eskine of Bielton Lord Balmermoth and others given by our hand at our Pallace of Westminster the sixth day of January in the second yeer of the Raign of K. James K. Edw. 3. in the 11 year of his Raign by his Charter in Parliament and by authority of Parliament did create Edw. his eldest son the Black-Prince D. of Cornwall not onely in title but cum feodo with the Dutchy of Cornwall as by the tenour of the said Letters Patents exemplified may appear Cook● 8 part in the pleading Habend ' et tenend ' eidem duci et ipsius et heraed ' suorum Regum Angliae fili●s prim●g●ni●is et dicti loci d●●ibus in Regno Angliae bereditatoriae successoris To have and to hold to the same Duke and his heirs Kings of England the first begotten sons and Dukes of the same place in the kingdom of England and to hereditary succession so that he that is hereditable must be heir
to be all one with the Barons by tenure or those whose Ancestors time out of minde have been called to the Parliament by Writ for otherwise there are hardly such to be found as are Barons by prescription only BARONS by Tenure BArons by tenure are those which doe hold any Honour Castle or Mannour as the head of their Barony per Baroniam which is Grand Serjeanty And these Barons by tenure are of two sorts Barons spirituall by tenure and Barons temporall by tenure Of Barons spirituall by tenure sufficient is said before in the first leafe of this Treatise whereunto this may be added That it appeareth by all ancient Writers of our Lawes as Britton Glanvile Bracton and the rest that the Archbishops and Bishops of the Realme in the ancient Saxons dayes as well during the time that this Realme was divided into divers Kingdomes as also after the uniting of them into one Monarchy were called to the Parliament or Assembly of States or wise men not so much in respect of their tenure for in those dayes all their tenures were by franck almoigne but especially for that the lawes and counsels of men are then most currant and commendable and have a more blessed issue and successe when they are grounded upon the feare of God the root and beginning of all true wisdome and therefore our wise and religious Ancestors called to their generall Councell or Witten Agmote or Court of Wisdome as they called it those chiefe and principall persons of the Clergy which by their place and profession by their gravities learning and wisdome might best advise what was the law of Gods acceptable will and pleasure that they might frame their humane lawes answerable or at least no● contrary and repugnant thereunto As touching the temporall Barons by the tenure mention is made of them in the Books of the Law Records and ancient Monuments of the Realme these are the words of Glanvile Mortuo enim aliquo capital● Bar●ne suo statim Baroniam in manu sua retinet Rex donec haeres garantum suum fecerit de relivio licet haeres ipse plenam habuerit atatem Which reliefe of Barons for the Barony by tenure was at that time uncertain and rentable at the pleasure of the King Of which also he writeth thus Dicitur autem rationabile relivium alicujus juxta consuetudinem regni de feodo unius Militis centum solidos de soccagio verò quantum valet census illius soccagii per unum annum De Baronis verò nihil certum statutum est quia juxta voluntatem misericordiam Domini Regis solent Baronii capitales de reliviis suis Domino Regi satisfacere lib. 9. cap. 4. But such uncertainty was brought to certainty by the statute of Magna Charta cap. 2. so here we have speech of the Barony Temporall by tenure and of the reliefe due for the same In tertio H. 3. there was argued an ancient Prerogative belonging to the Crowne and usuall even from the Conquest unto these times authentickly written in these words and so reported by Fitzherbert Quòd si aliquis Baro Domini Regis tenens de Rege obiisset non haberet haeredes nisi filias primogenitae filiae maritatae sunt in vita Patris Dominus Rex daret postnatam filiam quae remaneret in haereditate patris alicui milit ' suor ' cum tota haereditate Patris sui de qua obiisset seisitus ita quòd aliae filiae nihil recuperent versus postnatam filiam in vita sua Et omnes Reges habuerunt hanc dignitatem à conquestu Also Bracton lib. 5. fol. 351. fol. 357. doth make expresse mention of Barons temporall by tenure It shall be needlesse here againe to remember the former alledged assertion of Bracton that the head of a Barony descending unto daughters should not be divided by partition which argueth likewise the tenure by Barony But let us descend to other authorities that is to say to the Book-case in 48. E. 3. fol. 30. Sir Ralph Everden his case by which case of law is most evidently proved that there are Barons by tenure and in regard of such their tenure ought to be summoned to Parliament And to this purpose you may read a private statute in the eleventh yeere of Henry the sixth mentioned also in Cambden concerning the Earldome of Arundell and also another statute to the same purpose made 27. H. 6. for the finall determination of a controversie between William Earl of Arundell and Thomas Earl of Devonshire for place and preheminence in Parliament I would wish that those who deny that there were or are any Barons by tenure should consider advisedly the statute of Westminster the 2d. cap. 41. where the Fees of the Earle Marshall and Lord Chamberlain are expressed which are to be taken by them upon the homage done of every Baron by tenure whether the Baron holdeth by whole Barony or by lesse But ere I proceed further there ariseth a question here to be considered the resolution whereof may give great light and in a manner determine the matter in hand The Question therefore is this Question If a Baron by tenure alien and grant away the Honour Castle and Mannour holden by Barony whether shall such alienee or grantee take upon him the state title and dignity of a Baron or no and what shall become of such a dignity of Baronage after such alienation or grant made They which do deny that there are any such Baronies by tenure do use these as their chief and principall motives and reasons First if there be any Baronies by tenure then the alienee or grantee of such Honour Castle or Mannour so holden must hold by the same tenure that his feoffor or grantor before held But that was by Barony Therefore such alienee or grantee must hold by Barony And if such grant or alienation be made to persons base vulgar or ignoble they then should by such tenure be made noble which were marvellous absurd and full of inconveniency for Non Dominus domo sed domus Domino honestatur see Tho. Mills Peroration fol 3. Secondly it is very evident and manifest that many ancient Mannours which in old time were holden per Baroniam and were the Head of Baronies are now in the tenures of mean Gentlemen and others who neither doe or may challenge unto themselves in any respect thereof any Nobility without the great and high displeasure of the Kings most excellent Majesty who is the fountain of all Nobility within his Dominions Thirdly some ancient Barons there are which have aliened and sold away those Castles and Mannours of the which they have and beare the name and dignity of Baronage and yet themselves doe still retain and lawfully keep their estate dignity and degree of Baron and have been and usually are such alienation notwithstanding summoned neverthelesse to the Parliament and they do take and hold their ancient place according The Answer For the better
answere to be made to these objections being of all others the most materiall and of moment used in this behalf it shall be convenient for the more easie unfolding the state of this question to exhibite certain necessary and requisite propositions and upon them to draw true and infallible conclusions and then to prove them by authority of Law consent and time and manifold presidents which done the answere will be easily made as I conceive to every of the foresaid objections First therefore if a Baron by tenure which holdeth any Castle Honour or Mannour per Baroniam do alien or give the same either he doth it without any licence obtained from his Majesty so to do or else by some certain licence in that behalf obtained If he doe it without licence then the conclusion is certain by the lawes of this Realme the Barony Castle Honour and Mannour so aliened without licence or consent is forfeited and the same Honour Castle or Mannour so holden by Barony and so aliened is to be seised into the Kings hands for the said forfeiture and such dignity and estate no longer to be borne and continue but to be resumed and extinguished in the Crowne from whence it was derived Read hereof in Stamfords Prerogative cap. 7. But nota in Cook 2. part 80. b. The reason thereof is notable if we call to remembrance that which was formerly alledged out of Bracton That Baronies are the strength of the Realme and suffer no division they suffer also no alienation without the consent or licence of the soveraign Monarch for so should the Realme be enfeebled and base persons enabled without desert of vertue or prowesse For where the thing so aliened is an Honour or head of the Barony it differs much from the ordinary tenure in capite whereof if the Tenant make alienation without licence hee is onely to pay fine by the statute 1. E. 3. cap. 12. whereof also before the making of the statute there was diversity of opinion at the Common Law after the statute of Magna Charta But let me cite some authorities for the proofe of these allegations Glanvile the most ancient Writer of the Lawes of this Realme now extant hath these words Notandum autem quòd nec Episcopus nec Abbas quia eorum Baroniae sunt de eleemosyna Regis Antecessoris ejus non possunt de Dominicis suis aliquam partem dare ad remanentiam sine assensu confirmatione Domini Regis lib. 7. cap. 1. in fine statut Westm. cap. 42. In Edward the thirds time certaine land being parcell of the Barony of Brember was aliened by William de Bruse the Baron thereof without licence of the King and in the argument of a cause concerning the same Greene one of the Judges delivereth this for law That parcell of a Barony or Earldome held of the King in chiefe cannot be aliened or dismembred without his licence and if it be it shall bee seised into the Kings hands as forfeit and the King shall be seised thereof in his own right again In 46. E. 3. it was found by office that William Bishop of Chester had leased unto one John Peston for his life a Mannour which was parcell of the Mannour of the said Bishopricke without licence and it was resolved by the Judges and other of the Kings Councell that the same was forfeit but by meditation of the said Councell the Bishop submitted himselfe to the King and made a fine and severall Scire facias issued out against them that had received the maine profits to answer unto the King thereof And thus much concerning alienation of Baronies without licence But on the other part if a Baron by tenure which holdeth any Honour Castle or Mannour by Barony do grant or alien the same by licence I must again distinguish For either such alienation is made for the continuance of his Barony Honours Lands and Tenements in his owne name blood issue male Or else the same alienation is made for mony or other recompence or otherwise to a meere stranger and hereof ensueth this second conclusion or assertion That if such alienation be made for the continuance of the Barony in his name and blood or issue male as many have made the like then have the issues male together with the Barony be it Castle Honour or Mannour so holden held also and lawfully enjoyed the name stile title and dignity of a Baron and thereof have the heires generall or next heires female been excluded and debarred And for the proof of this assertion there may manifold presidents be produced wherof certain have happened almost in every age for 300 yeers space namely so long in effect as there have bin observations thereof of which some certain doe ensue William de Ferrariis Comes Derby obiit Anno 30. H. 3 Margareta Comitissa Derby Domina de Grooby Robertus de Ferrariìs Comes Derby Johannes de Ferariis Dom. de Charley Will. de Ferrar. Dom de Grooby ex dono Matris William de Ferrariis Dominus de Grooby It appeareth by an office found after the death of William de Ferrariis Lord of Grooby 23. H. 6. that Margaret Lady of Grooby gave to William Ferrars her second sonne and to the heires of his body the Mannour of Grooby c. By vertue of which gift the said William Ferrars and his heires were ever after Barons of Grooby Robert Walleron Baron of Kilpeck died in 1. Ed. 1. without heires of his body and Robert Walleron sonne of William brother of the said Robert was his next heire yet notwithstanding the said Robert d●ing gave to Allen Plagenet sonne of Alice his sister the Castle Mannour and Lordship of Kilpeck with the appurtenances To have unto the said Allen and to the heires of his body comming as appeareth by his office c. By vertue of which gift the said Allen was Baron of Kilpeck and summoned among other Barons to the Parliament and he died 27. E. 1. Walleron Baron of Kilpecke Robert Walleron Baron of Kilpec obiit sine exitu 5. E. 1 William Walleron Robert Walleron the next heir Alice married to Plagenet Allen Plagenet Baron of Kilpecke coron dono Edmond Deynecourt Baron of Blasteny obiit An. 20. E. 2 Edmond DeynCourt Isabel his next heire John Deincourt William Deyncourt Barō of Blaxronry by reason of the entaile obiit 38. E. 3 William Deyncourt ante patrem William Deyncourt Baron of Blackney John Deincourt The King to all Christian people sendeth greeting c. Know ye that whereas lately for that our well-beloved and faithfull subject Edmond Deyncourt pondered and considered that both his Sirname and also his Armes after his death in the person of Isabell daughter of Edmond Deyncourt his heire apparent should be blotted out of memory most earnestly he desired that his Sirname and Armes after his death for ever might be had in remembrance To whose request for the worthy service as well to our father Edward late
is no heire male at all that may claime the same for then doth this question take place whether the husband of such heire female shall enioy the dignitie in the right of his wife or no wherein wee are to rest upon a resolution had and given in this speciall question which was in this manner In the time of Hen. 8. when Mr. Winbie tooke upon him the stile of Lord Talboys in the right of his wife having none issue by her the said King assisted both by Civill and Temporall Lawyers gave sentence that no husband of Baronesse in her right should use the stile and dignitie untill he had by her a Child whereby he should become Tenant by the courtesie unto her inheritance The speciall reasons that occasioned this sentence were two First it should be inconvenient for her husband this day to bee a Baron and Peere of the Realme and to morrow by the death of his wife to become none and that without the death of the partie Secondly if he had issue by his wife and were intituled to be Tenant by the curtesie of England of the wives land if hee shall not also beare the stile and dignitie of her Barony then should his sonne after the death of his mother dying in the life time of his father bee Baron and Lord without land for so the Father should have the land as Tenant by the curtesie and the sonne the Lordship without Land And thus much said concerning the nature quality and estate of a Baron by writ and for resolution of the severall points and Articles of the question proposed may suffice Barons by Patent which is the third kind of Barons mentioned in the former division of Barons THere is also a fourth meanes of creation by act of Parliament but the first 2. mentiond and this by Patent are most for the honour of the King for thereby the donation doth proceed from his highnes onely as from the fountaine of all honour and dignity but when the creation is by Parliament every one may bee said donator Cookes 8. part 19. A Baron by creation by reason of Letters Patents is that Noble person whom the Kings Maiesty or any of his progenitors Kings of the Realme have created Barons by such their Letters Patents But this manner of creating Barons by Patent began in the Raign of R. 2. who created first Iohn Beauchamp of Holt Baron of Kidderminster by his Letters Patents 8. October anno 11. But Mils saith in 30. H. 6. this was brought in This kind of dignity of Baron shall bee of such countenance in discent or otherwise as shall beelimited in the Habendi in such Letters Patents contained for it may be but for the life of him to whom it is given or for terme de anter vie of some other mans life as some hold opinion in 9. H. 6. 29. for Cujus est dare eius est dispo●ere it may be in speciall a generall tayle and this kind of estate tayle was usuall before the Statute made 13. E. 1. by which estate tayle in Lands and Tenements was created as appeareth by the Patent whereby Hubert de Burgo was made Earle of Kent in the time of H. 3. by these words Habend sibi hered suis de corpore Ma●ga●etaeuxoris su● sororis Alexandri Regis Scoti● procreatis pro defectu talis exitus rema●ere rectis hered●bus dicti Huberti and that estates in tayle are at this day titles of honour by the Statute of Westm 2. vide Nevils case Cooks 7. part 33. For the better explanation of this kind of dignity the resolution also of certaine questions shall be very requisite Question If a Nobleman and his Progenitors have for a long time been called to the Parliament and be a Baron either by tenure or writ have had in regard thereof a place certaine in Parliament if afterwards the same Nobleman should be created a Baron of that Barony and by the same name by Letters Patents whether shall hee and his heires retaine his old place in Parliament which hee had according to the former dignity or whether shall he lose ●is old place and take a new place according to the time of his creation onely Answer The case of the Lord Delaware received a resolution Coo 11. part ●●e Lord de la wares case somewhat answerable to this question Tho. Lord Delaware 3. ● 6. being in some displeasure with William West his Nephew and heire who was Father to the now Lord De la ware procured an Act of Pa●liament by the which the said W●ll West was during his naturall life only clearly disabled to clayme demand or have any manner of right title or interest by discent ●evenue or otherwise in or to the mannor lands tenements or hereditaments title and dignity of Thomas Lord De la w●re his Vncle Af●er the said Thomas De la ware dyed and the said VVilliam West was in the time of the late Queene Elizabeth restored and afterwards in the 8. yeare of her Raigne was ●teated Lord De la ware by Patent and had place in Parliament according to his creation by Patent for that by the said Act of Parliament in the time of E. 6. hee was excluded to challenge the former ancient Ba●ony and after hee dyed whether the new Lord Dela ware should take his place to the ancient Barony by writ or according to his Fathers creation by Patent was the question the opinion of the late Queenes Counsell being Her Majesties Atturney Generall and Solicitor were that the acceptance of the new creation by the said William West could not distinguish the ancient dignity in him at the time of his creation but the dignity was at that time by the Act of Parl●ament 3. E. 6. in obeyance suspence or consideration of Law and hee thereby utterly disabled to have the same during his life only so as other acceptance could not extinguish that dignity which hee then had not nor could not conclude his h●ire who was not disabled by the said Act of 3. E. 6. to clayme the ancient Barony which opinion of theirs was seene and allowed by the resolution of the chiefe Iustice of England and Lord chiefe Baron and so signified unto the Lord Keeper but this is to bee noted by the reasons made for the said resolution that if the said William West had beene Baron and intituled or in possession of the ancient dignity when hee accepted the said creation the Law perchance might have been otherwise but that remayneth as yet unresolved neverthelesse the rule eodem mod quo quid constuitur dissolvitur but by grant which is made a matter in fact a man cannot transferre his title of honour Cook 7. part And thus much concerning the three degrees of Barons within this Realme may suffice to be said in gene●all upon this occasion for the better understanding and direction of that which followeth to be handled And in this place I thinke it not impertinent