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A34223 The life of the Lady VVarner of Parham in Suffolk, in religion call'd Sister Clare of Jesus written by a Catholic gentleman. Scarisbrike, Edward, 1639-1709. 1691 (1691) Wing C574; ESTC R22893 139,162 320

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speak with my Lord he would not give him Audience before he sent in his Name which he barely gave concealing his Quality To the first of his Questions my Lord Answer'd Assirmitively to the second he said it was a corrupted Member whereupon Sir Iohn asked him if it Err'd in any Fundamental Point He Answer'd it did not for then it would be no Church hence out of the premises granted by my Lord Sir Iohn drew this Conclusion in Answer to his Third Query telling my Lord That then it evidently follow'd there was Salvation in the Roman Catholic Church But my Lord told him That for those who were Born and Bred up in the Roman Catholic Religion there might be Salvation but for him who own'd himself to be Educated a Protestant it was very doubtful it being very dangerous to leave apure Church to enter into one defil'd with Errors To which when Sir Iohn out of his own words reply'd That they not erring in Fundamental Points he humbly conceiv'd it could not be so dangerous as his Gr●●e Asserted to embrace the Roman Catholic Religion my Lord reply'd That he was not so competent a Iudge of this as himself and therefore was to rely upon his Opinion rather than his own Sir Iohn humbly submitted his Judgment to my Lords in this Point but having understood from Dr. Buck the esteem my Lord had for a Religious State from an expression the Doctor told him his Grace had one Day let fall as he was puting on his Canonical Robes in the Lobby to go into the Parlament-House Viz How happy it would be did their Church afford such a conveniency as the Church of Rome did that Brothren might dwell together in Vnity and what a comfort their Conversations would be to each other resolv'd to propose the an● Question to him he had to Dr. Buck. which give him occasion of Relating this passage concerning my Lord to with whether the embracing a Religious State might not be a sufficient VVarrant and Motive for a Protestant to become a Catholie The Bishop instead of Answering the Question asked Sir Iohn whether or no he were Married Who telling him he was the Bishop reply'd That such a Prophosition as h● had made was in vain because the State he was in render'd the other incompatible Sir Iohn told him he humbly conceiv'd that a mutual consent gave the same Priviledge to embrace that State as a single Life did My Lord again asked him If he had any Children he told him Yes whereupon any Lord said You are then oblig'd in Couscience to see them Educated Sir Iohn reply'd That by leaving them to a trusty friend with security of a sufficient Maintenance he thought he better satisfied his obligation of their Education that by Educating them himself with hazard of his own Salvation Here my Lord was interrupted by a Youth of about Ten Years of Age his Relation who was going to VVestminster-School with whom my Lord entertain'd himself so considerable a time in asking him VVhat Books he learnt How this and the other of his Friends did And such like Questions as gave Sir Iohn who sat by just Reason to think that the danger of becoming Catholic was not so great as my Lord affirm'd otherwise he would have thought his time better spent in satisfying him in a business of so great consequence than in conversing with the other about matters of less moment My Lord either unwilling to give himself father trouble or believing it might disgust Sir Iohn to see him triflle away his time thus with this Youth instead of endeavoring to clear his doubts and perhaps willing enough to break of the Discourse for fear he might not be able to give him intire satisfaction told him That since his weighty affairs allow'd him not so much time as the answering his doubts requir'd he would recommend him to one who should make it his business to do it and therefore called one of his Gentlemen and Commanded him to go along with Sir John to Dr. Dolbin then Dean of Westminster and afterwards Bishop of Rochester and last of all of York and in his Name desire the Dean to render him what service was in his Power in the business he came about As Sir Iohn was going out of his Pallace he met Dr. Sancrost now Arch-bishops of Canturbury a Neighbour and acquaintance of his entring in who offer'd him his service and probably afterwar is inform'd the Bishop of his Quality Forat the Weater-side Sir Iohn meeting Dr. Dolbin just landed at Lambeth Stairs desir'd my Lords Gentleman to say nothing to him but return back and follow the Doctor to my Lord Wh●n he found much more civil and obliging than before who after he had talk'd near a Quarter of an hour with the Doctor they both came to Sir Iohn and my Lord assar'd him that h● had throughly inform'd the Doctor of his difficultes and that he was ready when ever he pleas'd to give him satisfaction in them which the Doctor also affirm'd and at Sir Iohn's request promis'd to expect him at his House the next Morning for that end Sir Iohn went according to his appointment and was immediatly introduc'd into his Closet where Sir Iohn perceiving both by the Doctors endeavors to prevent his proposing his doubts as well as by answering those he had propos'd to my Lord much after the same manner as his Grace had done that he was not like to have the satisfaction he expected made few or no Objections to what he said thinking it better to go away quietly as in appearance satisfied than otherwise give occasion of dissatisfaction both to the Arch-bishop and the Doctor and thereby cause them to divulge what few knew of to wit the disquiet and uneasiness he found in the Protestant Religion Nor was the Doctor much bent about asking his doubts but took occasion to ask many curious Questions and amongst others VVhat his Ladies Nune was Which when he understood he farther enquir'd VVhat Relation she was to Sir John Hanmer a particular acquaintance of his And being inform'd she was his Sister made greater Professions and offers of service to Sir Iohn than before For which he return'd due thanks and asked his Advice whether he judg'd it necessary that he should do the like to the Arch-bishop The Doctor told him he would do it for him and signifie to my Lord that he was the occasion he did not do it himself The Doctor offer'd Sir Iohn a Book call'd the VVhole Duty of Man which he civilly refus'd telling him that he had it already Whereupon the Doctor counsel'd him diligently to peruse that Treatise and that he would engage Soul for Soul provided he follow'd the advice he met with there that he should be as happy both in this VVorld and the next as he could hope to be by his entring into a Religious State He added also as Dr. Buck had done That 't was a meer Punctilio the Pope stood upon that