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A13773 Positions lately held by the L. Du Perron, Bishop of Eureux, against the sufficiency and perfection of the scriptures maintaning the necessitie and authoritie of vnwritten traditions. Verie learnedly answered and confuted by D. Daniell Tillenus, Professor of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Sedan. VVith a defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scriptures by the same author. Faithfully translated. Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.; Du Perron, Jacques Davy, 1556-1618. Discours sur l'autorité.; Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633. Defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scripture. aut 1606 (1606) STC 24071; ESTC S101997 143,995 256

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his_o answer_n in_o all_o these_o article_n if_o we_o believe_v he_o the_o scripture_n be_v no_o foundation_n &_o pillar_n of_o our_o faith_n as_o irenaeus_n say_v hermo●_n irenaeu●_n c_o 1_o tertul._n ●_o hermo●_n and_o they_o that_o add_v they_o to_o scripture_n need_v not_o fear_v the_o woe_n by_o tertullian_n who_o reverence_v the_o fullness_n of_o the_o scripture_n threaten_v after_o s._n john_n to_o those_o which_o can_v show_v that_o that_o which_o they_o say_v be_v write_v nor_o the_o anthema_fw-la of_o s._n augustin_n against_o those_o ●_o august_n ecclesic●_n count_n lit_fw-fr lib_n 3_o cap_n chrysos●_n homil_n ●_o 20_o cap_n ●_o that_o can_v read_v in_o scripture_n the_o doctrine_n they_o teach_v nor_o the_o reproach_n of_o chrysostome_n who_o call_v they_o thief_n that_o go_v up_o by_o any_o other_o way_n into_o the_o fold_n than_o by_o the_o
god_n through_o faith_n say_v saint_n paul_n and_o saint_n peter_n you_o be_v horn_n again_o not_o of_o a_o corruptible_a seed_n but_o of_o a_o incorruptible_a by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o our_o lord_n say_v he_o that_o shall_v believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v etc._n etc._n saint_n paul_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n saint_n philip_n to_o the_o eunuch_n that_o ask_v he_o if_o he_o may_v be_v baptize_v if_o thou_o believe_v thou_o may_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v sensible_a sign_n to_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v sacrament_n that_o they_o be_v sacrament_n to_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v confer_v that_o therefore_o they_o be_v to_o be_v sensible_a in_o the_o quality_n of_o sign_n otherwise_o they_o be_v not_o sacrament_n that_o baptism_n be_v not_o sensible_a to_o little_a child_n in_o this_o quality_n neither_o can_v afterward_o become_v so_o so_o that_o they_o must_v of_o necessity_n rely_v on_o the_o faith_n of_o other_o that_o they_o have_v be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o a_o sacrament_n unto_o they_o that_o jesus_n christ_n do_v never_o baptize_v they_o neither_o himself_n nor_o his_o apostle_n according_a to_o the_o recital_n of_o scripture_n on_o the_o contrary_a that_o the_o scripture_n seem_v to_o have_v except_v they_o express_v viros_fw-la &_o mulieres_fw-la that_o if_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a and_o lawful_a beside_o that_o those_o that_o confer_v it_o unto_o they_o profane_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o pollute_v the_o blood_n of_o the_o testament_n apply_v it_o to_o a_o matter_n uncapable_a they_o commit_v a_o other_o sacrilege_n in_o not_o reiterate_v it_o to_o they_o which_o afterward_o be_v capable_a of_o it_o and_o to_o who_o it_o be_v necessary_a if_o not_o by_o necessity_n of_o mean_n at_o least_o after_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o by_o necessity_n of_o precept_n and_o therefore_o seruet_fw-la say_fw-la that_o it_o be_v a_o impiety_n more_o than_o turkish_a and_o devilish_a and_o in_o a_o word_n if_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a and_o lawful_a our_o adversary_n church_n who_o have_v all_o in_o their_o infancy_n be_v baptize_v have_v no_o true_a baptism_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n for_o saint_n paul_n say_v that_o christ_n have_v purify_v his_o church_n by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n in_o his_o word_n and_o themselves_o say_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v that_o which_o have_v the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o sincere_a administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o to_o conclude_v in_o a_o word_n this_o point_n either_o they_o or_o the_o anabaptist_n be_v heretic_n for_o it_o be_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n that_o there_o be_v one_o baptism_n one_o faith_n as_o say_v saint_n paul_n and_o the_o symbol_n of_o the_o church_n say_v i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n now_o if_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a baptism_n those_o which_o baptize_v they_o have_v no_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o be_v heretic_n violate_v this_o article_n of_o say_v i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n and_o if_o it_o be_v true_a baptism_n the_o anabaptist_n be_v heretic_n who_o rebaptize_v they_o for_o they_o redouble_v baptism_n against_o that_o article_n of_o faith_n i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n it_o be_v then_o necessary_a that_o one_o of_o the_o two_o side_n be_v heretical_a and_o it_o not_o be_v possible_a by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o to_o verify_v which_o of_o the_o two_o it_o be_v it_o follow_v that_o all_o heresy_n can_v be_v confute_v by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o out_o of_o which_o i_o frame_v this_o syllogism_n whatsoever_o contain_v sufficient_o the_o principle_n of_o a_o science_n shall_v also_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v all_o the_o proposition_n pertain_v to_o the_o say_a science_n and_o to_o confute_v all_o that_o repugn_v the_o same_o now_o every_o heresy_n repugn_v the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o religion_n and_o the_o scripture_n alone_o can_v confute_v all_o heresy_n therefore_o the_o scripture_n contain_v not_o sufficient_o all_o the_o principle_n of_o doctrine_n necessary_a to_o the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o religion_n and_o therefore_o we_o must_v employ_v therein_o other_o principle_n conjoint_o with_o the_o scripture_n which_o can_v have_v authority_n in_o this_o case_n if_o they_o be_v not_o reveal_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n it_o must_v therefore_o be_v grant_v that_o beside_o the_o word_n of_o god_n write_v there_o be_v yet_o another_o part_n of_o the_o same_o word_n not_o write_v among_o which_o also_o saint_n augustin_n against_o this_o heresy_n concern_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n say_v consuetudo_fw-la matris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_o baptisandis_fw-la paruulis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la spernenda_fw-la neque_fw-la omnino_fw-la recipienda_fw-la nisi_fw-la apostolica_fw-la esset_fw-la traditio_fw-la d._n tillenus_n his_o answer_n thus_o be_v easy_o confute_v all_o the_o other_o reason_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o he_o bring_v forth_o after_o we_o for_o they_o be_v but_o repetition_n of_o the_o solution_n he_o give_v to_o we_o that_o baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o faith_n that_o it_o be_v call_v the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n that_o regeneration_n be_v make_v by_o faith_n and_o by_o the_o incorruptible_a seed_n of_o god_n word_n that_o saint_n philip_n say_v to_o the_o eunuch_n if_o thou_o believe_v thou_o may_v be_v save_v etc._n etc._n for_o it_o have_v be_v show_v that_o the_o child_n which_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v regenerate_v that_o this_o regeneration_n be_v do_v otherwise_o in_o they_o that_o in_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n of_o knowledge_n that_o the_o sentence_n of_o saint_n peter_n and_o s._n philip_n and_o other_o like_a be_v necessary_o understand_v of_o they_o that_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o word_n as_o be_v all_o those_o with_o who_o the_o apostle_n have_v to_o do_v when_o they_o begin_v to_o gather_v the_o christian_a church_n to_o apply_v to_o child_n that_o which_o be_v speak_v only_o to_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n the_o consequence_n be_v as_o foolish_a as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v deprive_v child_n of_o corporal_a nourishment_n because_o the_o scripture_n say_v 3.10_o 〈◊〉_d 3.10_o he_o that_o do_v not_o work_n shall_v not_o eat_v which_o be_v necessary_o mean_v of_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n to_o work_v how_o will_v his_o syllogism_n now_o stand_v which_o he_o frame_v thus_o whatsoever_o contain_v sufficient_o the_o principle_n of_o a_o science_n shall_v prove_v all_o the_o proposition_n belong_v to_o the_o say_a science_n and_o to_o confute_v all_o that_o repugn_v the_o same_o but_o every_o heresy_n repugn_v the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o the_o scripture_n alone_o can_v not_o confute_v all_o heresy_n therefore_o it_o contain_v not_o sufficient_o all_o the_o principle_n necessary_a etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o syllogism_n be_v 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bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr the_o second_o heresy_n which_o can_v be_v refute_v by_o the_o scripture_n be_v that_o of_o the_o rebaptise_v of_o heretic_n for_o there_o be_v no_o one_o place_n in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n that_o witness_v that_o the_o baptism_n which_o be_v among_o heretic_n be_v true_a baptism_n contrariwise_o there_o be_v infinite_a place_n which_o seem_v to_o repugn_v the_o same_o as_o the_o word_n of_o our_o lord_n he_o which_o shall_v believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v &c_n &c_n and_o that_o of_o sainte_fw-fr paul_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n whereof_o be_v conclude_v that_o see_v there_o be_v no_o faith_n among_o heretic_n and_o that_o this_o unity_n of_o faith_n of_o which_o saint_n paul_n speak_v be_v not_o find_v among_o they_o there_o be_v no_o baptism_n so_o that_o they_o which_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o they_o be_v no_o more_o baptize_v than_o those_o on_o who_o head_n by_o
chance_n some_o water_n be_v cast_v see_v they_o want_v the_o chief_a and_o principal_a condition_n which_o make_v a_o man_n be_v a_o matter_n and_o subject_v capable_a of_o baptism_n namely_o fayth_n that_o they_o that_o be_v baptise_a as_o say_v saint_n paul_n have_v put_v on_o christ_n that_o christ_n can_v be_v put_v on_o out_o of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v call_v the_o fullnes_n of_o christ_n &_o that_o therefore_o baptism_n can_v be_v among_o heretic_n that_o every_o one_o of_o you_o say_v saint_n peter_n be_v baptise_a for_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o creed_n of_o constantinople_n i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n now_o among_o the_o heretic_n there_o be_v no_o remission_n of_o sin_n for_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n and_o by_o consequent_a no_o baptism_n that_o when_o it_o be_v tell_v john_n baptist_n that_o christ_n baptise_a he_o answer_v none_o can_v do_v it_o unless_o it_o be_v give_v he_o from_o heaven_n that_o no_o authority_n be_v give_v from_o heaven_n to_o the_o assembly_n of_o heretic_n and_o therefore_o that_o they_o can_v baptise_v that_o baptism_n be_v do_v by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o resident_a out_o of_o the_o church_n neither_o consequent_o baptism_n d._n tillenus_n his_o answer_n first_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o hearer_n of_o the_o scripture_n learn_v that_o whosoever_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v well_o baptise_a but_o the_o follower_n of_o the_o romish_a tradition_n can_v never_o know_v whether_o they_o be_v well_o baptize_v or_o no_o for_o beside_o this_o instituti_fw-la of_o christ_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n require_v the_o intent_n of_o the_o priest_n without_o which_o the_o sacrament_n with_o they_o be_v none_o now_o there_o be_v no_o man_n that_o can_v be_v full_o assure_v of_o another_o man_n intent_n second_o the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o outward_a sacrament_n &_o the_o inward_a grace_n which_o be_v not_o enclose_v within_o the_o other_o as_o a_o salve_n in_o a_o box_n as_o the_o romish_a tradition_n teach_v they_o that_o receive_v the_o first_o receive_v not_o always_o the_o latter_a in_o what_o place_n soever_o it_o be_v as_o we_o see_v by_o the_o example_n of_o judas_n &_o simon_n magus_n for_o as_o say_v s._n augustine_n 24_o 〈◊〉_d 5._o the_o ●ont_n 〈◊〉_d 24_o man_n do_v put_v on_o christ_n sometime_o in_o participation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n sometime_o in_o sanctification_n of_o life_n the_o first_o be_v common_a to_o good_a and_o bad_a the_o other_o be_v peculiar_a only_o to_o the_o good_a neither_o heretic_n nor_o orthodoxal_a can_v minister_v any_o thing_n but_o the_o outward_a sacrament_n the_o holy_a ghost_n only_o give_v the_o internal_a grace_n that_o be_v faith_n possession_n of_o christ_n &_o remission_n of_o sin_n all_o which_o be_v manifest_a in_o scripture_n but_o 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