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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A40677	Two letters from His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax one to both Houses of Parliament, giving an accompt of what transactions and proceedings have been betwixt the Kings Majesty and the Army, since his coming into their quarters : with some proposals in relation to His Majesty, and the speedy settlement of the peace of the Kingdom : the other a letter to the Lord Major, aldermen and Common-Councel of the city of London : with some papers of the proceedings of the treaty with the Army.	England and Wales. Army.; Fairfax, Thomas Fairfax, Baron, 1612-1671.	1647 (1647)	Wing F245; ESTC R22045	5,772	18

TWO LETTERS From His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax ONE To both Houses of PARLIAMENT Giving an Accompt of what Transactions and Proceedings have been betwixt the Kings Majesty and the Army since His coming into their Quarters WITH Some farther Proposals in relation to His Majesty and the speedy settlement of the Peace of the Kingdom THE OTHER A LETTER to the Lord Major Aldermen and Common-Councel of the City of LONDON With some PAPERS of the Proceedings of the Treaty with the ARMY BY the appointment of his Excellency Sir Tho Fairfax and the Councel of War Reading July 8. 1647. Signed JOHN RUSHWORTH London Printed for Laurence Chapman IELY 10. 1647. Mr. Speaker I Was sent unto by the King on Friday last to desire the Parliament to give way to Him to see His Children and that they might for that purpose be sent to Him If I may be bold humbly to offer my Opinion I think the allowance of such a thing may be without the least prejudice to the Kingdom and yet gain more upon His Majesty then denying it and if it be in the prayers of every good man That His heart may be gained the performance of such civilities to Him is very sutable to those Desires and will hear well with all men who if they can imagine it to be their own case cannot but be sorry if His Majesties natural affections to His Children in so small a thing should not be complyed with and if any question should be concerning the assurance of their return I shall ingage for their return within what time the Parliament shall limit Upon this occasion give me leave I beseech you to take notice of some Reports spread abroad as if my self and the Officers of the Army were upon some underhand Contract or Bargain with the King and from thence occasion is taken to slander our Integrities and endeavor a misunderstanding betwixt the Parliament and their Army the fidelity of which to the Parliament and Kingdom and their affection to it are the great objects of many mens Envies because they see nothing so likely to settle Right and Freedom with Truth and Peace to us and posterity to hinder their Designs against the same as an Harmony or good accord between the Parliament and Army which is the joy of good men and it shall be our study to preserve against all Designs and Designers to the contrary To prevent therefore all misunderstandings of that kinde I thought fit with all clearness to declare unto you That we have done nothing nor shall do any thing which we desire to hide from you or the world or shall not avow to the faces of our greatest Adversaries Our Desires concerning a just consideration and settlement of the Kings Rights His Majesty first giving His concurrence to settle and secure the Rights and Liberties of the Kingdom We have already publiquely declared in our Representation and Remonstrance Since the first of those Papers sent to the Parliament there have been several Officers of the Army upon several occasions sent to His Majesty the first to present to Him a copy of the Representation and after that some others to tender Him a copy of the Remonstrance upon both which the Officers sent were appointed to clear the sence and intention of any thing in either Paper whereupon His Majesty might make any question Since then there have also been some Officers at several times sent to His Majesty about His remove from Hatfield to disswade if possibly from Windsor or any place so near London to some place of further distance answerable to what we had desired of the Parliament In all which addresses to His Majesty We care not who knows what hath been said or done for as We have nothing to bargain for or to ask either from His Majesty or the Parliament for advantage to our selves or any particular party or interest of our own so in all those Addresses to His Majesty We have utterly disclaimed and disavowed any such thing or any Overtures or Thoughts tending that way But the onely intent and effect of those our Addresses hath been to desire and endeavor His Majesties free concurrence with the Parliament for establishing and securing the common Rights and Liberties and settling the peace of the Kingdom and to assure Him That the Publique being so provided for with such His Majesties concurrence it is fully agreeable to our Principles and should be our desires and endeavor That with and in such settling of the Publique the Rights of His Majesties Royal Family should be also provided for so as a lasting Peace and Agreement might be settled in this Nation And that as We had publiquely declared for the same in general terms so if things came to a way of settlement We should not be wanting in our sphaeres to own that general Desire in any particulars of natural or civil right to His Majesties Person or Family which might not prejudice or again indanger the Publique and in the mean time That His Majesty should finde all personal civilities and respects from us with all reasonable freedom that might stand with safety and with the trust or charge lying upon us concerning His Person You have here the utmost sum of what hath pass'd from us to His Majesty and We could wish all men did rightly understand without misrepresentations every particular wherein as We know nothing not agreeable to Reason Justice Honesty or Conscience so We thought our selves concerned the rather to say and do as We have towards His Majesty since He came within our quarters because of those common prejudices suggested against us as if We were utter Enemies to Monarchy and all Civil Order or Government And for that particular of the Duke of Richmond and the Two Chapleins lately permitted to attend His Majesty It was not done without much reluctancy because therein We doubted We might be misunderstood by the Kingdoms best friends But upon His Majesties continuing importunity for it as a thing very nearly concerning His present inward and outward contentment and conceiving those persons such as we hoped would not do ill offices to prejudice the Peace of the Kingdom We did give way to it and the persons before they came had notice of the permission And as We then thought so We still do think That to allow him some such company of persons least dangerous whom former acquaintance may make him take pleasure in and the allowance of some such Chapleins of His own are things both reasonable and just and the debarring of that liberty in the latter We doubt will but make Him more prejudiced against other Ministers In general We humbly conceive that to avoid all harshness and afford all kinde usage to His Majesties Person in things consisting with the Peace and Safety of the Kingdom is the most Christian Honorable and Prudent way And in all things as the Representation and Remonstrance of the Army doth express We think that tender equitable and

moderate dealing both towards His Majesty His Royal Family and His late party so far as may stand with safety to the Kingdom and security to our common Rights and Liberties is the most hopeful course to take away the seeds of War or future Feuds amongst us for posterity and to procure a lasting Peace and Agreement in this now distracted Nation To the effecting and setling whereof with a secure provision first to be made for the common Rights and Liberties of the Kingdom and a due care to preserve and propagate the Gospel of Truth Peace amongst us we shall hope that neither the Parliament nor His Majesty will be wanting And if God shall see it good to make us any way instrumental thereunto or that We may otherwise see the same accomplisht We shall then think our selves indeed discharged from the publique ingagements We have been called out unto more clearly and effectually then before such things were settled We could have thought our selves to be and to demonstrate our clearness from seeking self-advantages in what We did We shall thenceforth account it our greatest happiness and Honor if God see it good to be disingaged and dismist not onely from our Military charges but from all other matters of Power or publique imployment whatsoever I have in these things spoke not in my own Name alone but in the Name because I finde it to be the clear sence of the generality or at least of the most considerable part of the Army and I am confident you and the Kingdom will never finde it otherwise I shall leave it to your favorable construction and commit all to the goodness of God for an happy issue I remain Reading July 8. 1647. Your most humble Servant T. Fairfax For the Right Honorable The Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament For the Right Honourable the Lord Maior Aldermen and Common-Councel of the City of LONDON My Lord and Gentlemen TO the end we may continue a right understanding betwixt you and us all along in the management of this great businesse with the Parliament the happie proceedings thereof so much concerning the safety and peace of this Kingdom we have given your Commissioners this day the copie of a Paper which we presented to the Commissioners of Parliament residing with us wherein we take notice of the true reasons of the slowe progresse in the Treaty and declare where the stop remains And to the end that nothing may be wanting in us which might work toward the speedie settlement of the quiet of this Kingdom we have humbly offered what we can say will most effectually tend to remove those incumbrances and letts which stand between us and the universal good of the Kingdom and till that be done it cannot be expected that we should procure the Peace of this Kingdom by a Treaty but rather give occasion and opportunity thereby to others to engage us in a second War which must necessarily hazard the ruine of this Kingdom as also the certain destruction of Ireland the relief whereof we shoud most effectually apply unto you were the affairs of England but once put into an hopeful posture It is a sudden and substantial settlement of the whole we desire in a general safe and well-grounded Peace and the establishment of such good Laws as may duely and readily render to every man their just Rights and Liberties And for the obtaining of these not onely our intentions had led us to but we think that all the Blood Treasure and Labour spent in this War was for the accomplishing those very things which are of that concernment both to our selves and posterity that neither we nor they can live comfortably without them and thereof we hope your selves will have the same sense and therefore improve your interest for the obtaining out just Desires in the Proposals now sent unto the Parliament which being granted and we secured from the danger of a War we shall proceed with cheerfulnesse to the Treaty and doubt not in a short time to see an happie Conclusion to the satisfaction of all honest mens Expectation and that in all our undertakings we shall be found men of truth fully and singly answering the things we have held forth to the Kingdom in our several Declarations and Papers without by or base respects to any private end or interest whatsoever READING July 8. 1647. By the Appointment of His Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax and his Councel of War Signed JO RUSHWORTH Secretary A Paper delivered in by the Commissioners of Parliament Wednesday July 7. 1647. THat finding the Expectation of the Parliament and Kingdom to be very great upon the speedy progresse and happie issue of this Treaty in consideration whereof we have made it our Care constantly to attend at the appointed times of meeting and to presse all dispatch therein And we cannot but take notice that the proceedings on your part have been and are very slowe and that little or nothing hath been done in the Treaty since our entrance thereupon and therefore in discharge of our Duty and the Trust reposed in us we do very earnestly desire that the Treaty may be effectually proceeded on with all expedition and the times for meeting punctually kept there being nothing that shall be wanting in us according to the power given us to further a work of so great importance and which may perfect a right understanding betwixt the Parliament and the Army Reading July 7. 1647. By the appointment of the Commissioners residing with the Army Signed GEO. PYKE Secretary An Answer of the Commissioners of the Army to the Paper of the Commissioners of Parl ament about a speedie proceeding BY the last Paper delivered in unto us from your Lordships at Reading the 7 of July we perceive you finde That the Expectation of the Parliament and Kingdom is great upon the speedie progresse and happie issue of this Treatie We answer That we do really apprehend the same things with you neither can we but witnesse that you have constantly attended the appointed times of meeting and prest dispatch therein Neverthelesse we cannot but be very sensible that you seem to reflect upon us further then there is just cause in your taking notice that the proceedings herein should be slowe and dilatory on our part as if we should not seem to desire and labour the quick and speedie settlement of the affairs of the Kingdom in a safe and well-grounded Peace as cordially as any persons whatsoever We shall therefore desire you to remember with what forwardnesse we have in the first place presented to you those things which we did in our hearts conceive necessary in order to a Treaty and without which being granted we could not with safety to the Kingdom and satisfaction to our selves proceed in Treaty and further prest you to present them to the Parliament with speed that a quick dispatch might be had therein as being in our thoughts the chiefest and surest way to prevent the engaging this Kingdom in a second War when contrary to our expectation we have found little effectually done in relation to our Desires in those things most concerning the safety and peace of the Kingdom To the end therefore wee may acquit our selves from being guilty of the delay you mention and that it may appear to all men where the stick is of not proceeding in the Treaty to a settlement of the peace of the Kingdome so much thirsted after by us all we thought fit to reminde you of these following proposals which we have formerly insisisted upon and to which satisfaction is not given I. That there is nothing done with effect notwithstanding the Votes of the House to the dispersing of the Reformado Officers who still continue in and about London ready to head Forces to the apparent bazzard of a new Warre II. That notwithstanding the Votes of the House for the speedy sending into Ireland or disbanding those Forces which left the Army and their speciall Order to the Committee at Derby House to take speedy care therein yet they are still continued in bodies in and about London and as wee hear are daily listing more Forces pretending the Service of Ireland III. That notwithstanding the Votes of the House of the tenth of June and those since of the fifth of July for the present purging the of House yet divers persons comprised in these Votes continue still to sit there So long as wee remain unsatisfied in the two first of these particulars wee cannot be secured from those doubts we have expressed of the danger of a new Warre especially if it be considered that the end of inviting so many Reformado Officers to London was to lay a foundation of a new Warre and was principally carried on by the designe of some of those Members of the House of Commons we have impeached And likewise that divers of the Officers and Souldiers which left this Army were procured by promises of pay and other ingagements which were likewise designed by the same persons aforementioned if possibly they might thereby have broken this Army And for the last What comfortable effect may wee expect of a Treaty so long as the Parliament the supreme Judicatory of the Kingdome is constituted of some that are men of interests contrary to the common good thereof from whom wee can expect nothing but banding and designing to obstruct and frustrate all proceedings contrary to their interest though never so essentiall to the happy settlement of the Kingdome and if a seasonable remedy be not given herein wee despair of any good to the Kingdome by way of Treaty Reading 7o Julii 1647. By the appointment of the Commissioners of the Army Signed WILLIAM CLERK Secretary FINIS