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A28196 A treatise of the nobilitie of the realme collected out of the body of the common law, with mention of such statutes as are incident hereunto, upon a debate of the Barony of Aburgavenny : with a table of the heads contained in this treatise.; Magazine of honour Bird, William, 17th cent. 1642 (1642) Wing B2956; ESTC R18509 58,218 162

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the said Milliscent were allotted the Castle of Totnes in Devon c. Eyton in the County of Bedford and Farringworth c. with divers other lands The said Iohn came to full age the first Iohn Hastings Baton of Aberg 11. E. 1. and did his homage and had his Livery as appeareth by Record but by the same Record appeareth that the Barony of Hastings was never redeemed according to the Edict Kellenworth but granted to Peter de Sabandia Claus 11. E. 1. Mem. 6. as aforesaid This Iohn did lawfully beare the Title of Lord Abergavenny by this partition The said John being one of the Competitors for the Crowne of Scotland with the rest submitted himselfe 19. E. 1. to the determination of the said King as Supreame Lord of Scotland which Commission was framed in these words A tout crus In magno Rot. Scār c. Florence Comit. de Holland Robert de Bruse seigneur de Vasdaum Io. Balioll Seigneur de Badenaw Patrick de Dumbar Comite de la March Ia. de Vascye pur son pier Nich de Seules Gulielm de Rosse Salus en dieu cum nous entendomus daver droit en Roylme de Escoce cel duel jure chalenger avouer devant ceoque pluis de pouer jurisdiction reason eist de trier nostre droit Et le noble Prince Seig. Edward c. nous syant enforme per bo sufficient reasonque a luy come aver droit Soveraigne Sūr sē du dit Roylme de Escoce la Conusance d'oyer trier determin nostre droit nous ne nostre volunt sans nul maner de force ou distresse de droit devant luy come Soveraigne Sūr de la terre c. l'an de grace 1291. There was another like writing whereby these competitors doe yeeld some of the Kingdome of Scotland unto the said E. 1. untill he should determine the controversie After the sentence given by E. 1. for John Balioll who afterwards adhered to the French against England Whereupon Ed. 1. prosecuting war against Scotland the Pope intermedling a Parliament was proclaimed to be held at Lincolne 29. E. 1. where it wass agreed that the King should write to the Pope touching his right to that Crowne and the wrong offered him And that the Nobility should write that they neither could nor ought to suffer Nota that the King of England should referre the same to the Popes sentence they subscribing their names and titles of Honour among which was the said Iohn Hastings name in this manner Iohannes Dominus de Aburgavenny In 16. E. 1. the King purposing to go to France Ex Rot. mal 17. E 1. in dors charged the Lords Marchers of Wales to be resident upon their Baronies fearing the invasion of the Welch and Anno 17. in the Rebellion of Rise ap Meredocke the King being in France directeth his Writ unto the said Marchers under the Test Edmundi fratris sui And among other the Barons there named as Ed. de Mortimer Roger Mortimer Pet. Corbet Roger le Strange Fulk Fitzwarren Galfrid de Canmyl William Mortimer Guy de Brian Iohn de Hastings Ra. de Tony William de Bruse Iohn Tregouse Bogok Nevill Ric. Fiz-Allen Io. Fitz-Reginald and all Barons Marchers Againe 20. E. 1. When therer was a great quarrell between Gilbert de Clare 20. E. 1.14 in recept Scacar Earle of Gloucester and Hereford and Humfrey de Bohum late E. of Hereford and Essex whereupon murders c. had beene committed in their lands in Brecnocke A Commission was awarded to the Bishop of Ely William de Valence the Kings vncle Io. de Mettingham one of the Iudges and unto Robert de Hereford to heare and determine the same In which Commission the said Iohn Hastings was one In which the Commissioners would have had the said Barons to have beene sworne to make presentment thereof which they refused standing upon their priviledge and therfore the Enquest was impannelled of others P. 23. E. 1. The said Iohn was summoned ot the Parliament Som. Parliamen Anno 24. E. 1. Som. Parl. a. 35. E. 1. which was to be holden the Sunday next after the feast of St. Martin as also to a Parliament at Carlile 35. E. 1. It will be objected that Iohn his father was summoned in 49. H. 3. and therfore in regard thereof and not in respect of this Barony was this Iohn summoned It is true that Henry Hastings was summoned it 49. H 3. he was Captaine of the Caste of Killingworth Respon and held it against the King and beheaded the Kings Messenger sent unto him for the which fact was the said imprisonment before spoken of Ed. Kenel act 34. Cron. Holens And the Barony of Hastings descended not to the said John Therfore in the letters to the Pope and in his claime to Scotland he writeth himselfe Iohannes Hastings c. and not Dominus Hastings which if that title had belonged to him he had expressed it Object 2 That he used the Title of Dominus Abergav as Dominus Proprietarius and not as Dominus Honorarius The same may be said of the other Competitor and the Letters to the Pope which were ridiculous In the Summons 23. E. 1. ●e is named Io. Hastings Mil. and not Iohannes Dominus Hastings therefore Respon c. Object 3 They used not then to expresse the place except for distinction Now to the Descent THis Iolin died Continuance of the descent 6. E. 2. having issue Iohn who died 18 E. 2. And in the Diem eligit extremum he is stiled Johannes Hastings Dominus de Abergav and Earle of Pembrooke tempore E. 3. he died 12. E. 3. having issue Iohn his Heire Ex bundel Esc 18. E. 2. Earle of Pembrooke and Lord of Abergav who died 49. E. 3. having issue Iohn Earle of Pembrooke c. who died by reason of a wound received at a Just at Woodstocke about 13. R. 2. he was the last of that name Baron of Aburgavenny The Family of Beauchampe Lord Aburgavenny AFter the death of the said Iohn Peauchamp Lord of Aberg Reginald Gray Lord Richyn Sonne of Elizabeth Sister of the said Iohn the great Grandfather of him that last died claimed this Barony and thereof had Livery And thereupon grew a contention concerning the bearing of the Armes of Hastings without difference betweene the Lo. Gray of the whole blood and Sir Edward Hastings of the halfe blood which was adjudged for the Lord Gray in the Earle Marshalls Court A like contention was betweene the Lord Gray and William Beauchampe third sonne of Thomas the elder Earle of Warwicke who claimed this Barony against the said Lord Gray by vertue of an intaile from the said John the elder which proved and upon Composition the said Reginald 15. R. 2. levied a Fine to M. 15. R. 2 recordat Term. H. prox c. whereby he acknowledged the right of the said Castle to the use of the said William Beauchampe as by an old Msss remaining with the Earle of Kent may appeare Vid. the Earle of Kents booke as also by a partition of the said Lands FINIS
an Appeale of Maykem the parties bee at issue whether the hurt be a Maykem or no sometimes the Courts of the ordinary of some other Iudge or Officer as in matters spirituall by Certificate thereof from the ordinary c. And concerning matters done beyond the Seas in the Kings Army or concer-cerning Combate for honour armes c. by Certificate of the Lord Constable or Earle Marshall 3 H 6.6 48 E. 3.3 c. whereby appeareth the weakness of the former Argument but in cases usuall the law alloweth the triall by Witnesses without Iury And therefore in the Lord Constable and Earle Marshals Court matter in fact concerning Honour and Armes which lie not in the knowledge of the vulgart sorz the the Common Law grounded upon the best reason would it should be tried by witnesses or matters of Record as the cause shall require and not that the same should be tried by the conscience of the vulgar people 22. Assess pl. 24. being matters whereof they have no knowledge sufficiently to discerne Hitherto have I wandred of purpose to shew that our homebred Law is sufficiently able and ought to trie all causes civil other then Marine such as are rising with the body of the Realme and not in forraigne parts whereby appeared the excellencie of the Common Law which maintaineth the particular jurisdiction of every particular Court. For it is the common Law through the sundry Writs of prohibition which it useth which keepeth every Court within the compasse of his proper sphere and upholdeth the jurisdiction of the Court of the Earle Marshall By that therfore which hath beene said two things may sufficiently appeare First that the Court of the Lord Constable and Earle Marshall have had and now the Earle Marshals Court hath particular jurisdiction originally and primarily to determine matters of controversie concerning Chivalry Dignity Honour Armes and some other things acknowledged to belong to the said Court by the Lawes and Statutes of our Countrey Howbeit by a consequent but not originally some other Courts of ordinary justice may as the case shall require determine likewise such like controversies touching honour c. but not ease or in sua but rather by an adjunct as by this example may appeare If there bee two competitiours of a Barony and during the time that their cause is litigious the one of them is impleaded at the common Law by originall Writ Cap. alz plures in a personall action and thereupon an exigent is awarded whereupon insueth an Outlary the party outlwaed brings a Writ of errour and assigneth for errour that hee having such a Castle to him descended c. holden per Baroniam whereupon his Ancestours have beene Barons anp he himselfe Baron no Cap. ought to be awarded against him but in very speciall cases onely therefore the outlary erroneous This matter of errour alledged the Court cannot consider without due determination of the title of the Barony wherein if the Court of the Earle Marshall should adjudged one way by any forraigne Law in the same question depending there and the Court of B.R. adjudge another way by the common law of the Realme upon this Writ of errour there would ensue thereof a great confusion and inconveniencie in the Common-wealth which the law will rather eschew then any other mischiefe whatsoever Secondly therefore it doth appeare by the speeches aforesaid that the common law ought to decide this controversie and that both Courts ought to follow one and the same law in as much as the common law is more ample then ordinary reports of Cases in the yeare bookes For whatsoever is not disagreeing from the law of God and is consonant to the lawes of nature and Nations allowed by the customes of our Countrey not disagreable to former presidents answerable to all good learning is the vndoubted common law of the Realme which knowledgeth no other Author but God and nature and whereof the Iuges in all ages have ever thought it honourable to receive all good helpes from every faculty of literature in the ending of difficulties questioned before them The proofe therfore in this controversie to be produced shall be arguments of reason What māner of proofes are to be used in your Controversies allegations of authoritie presidents of time drawne out of Records Histories ouncient Monuments Lawes and customes of our owne countrey and furnished with such other matters of necessary knowledge as may tend to the better explanation It followeth somewhat to speake in generall of the dignitie and degree of a Baron The 2. matters before proposed whereby the Qu. in hand may be the better conceived and be reduced to a more cleere determination which for order sake I will reduce to the consideration of these principall heads 1. The definition or description of a Baron 2. The Etimologie of the name of Baron 3. The antiquitie thereof and the divers vse of the name 4. The division and consideration of the severall Kinds of Barons 5. The determination of certaine Qu. and difficulties tending to the more manifestation of the natures of the severall Kinds of Barons 6. And lastlie a declaration of the divers and sundry priviledges allowed by the lawes of this Realme unto the Barons and Nobilitie of the same wherin the vulgar c. hath no participation Which things being discouered there will be laied open as I doe conceiue a plaine way to the finall conclusion and resolution of the question in hand The definition or description of a Baron IT is a rule of Law that Om nis definitio in jure periculosissima Dig. l. 51. de regulis juris 203. omnis defifinitio Rarum est enim ut non subverti possit And therefore I doe not often see any definition or description of a Baron Baldus thus describeth a Baron Baldus Canotus de sectionibus vt sit quisquis merum mixtumque imperium in aliquo Castro opidove concessione principes habeatur But his seemeth rather particular to some then generall to all and therefore Alciatus vseth these words Nobis alia est sententia quia sciamus et in Germania Andr. Alciatus de duello c. 32. Refer Pet. Greg. in reg jur H. 6. capire 10. et Gallia solum Barones dici quibus super opidorum jurisdictionem haec dignitas specialiter concessa est Some thinke they are those which are meant under the name of Valvasores majores Capitanei In the second booke De feodis de titulo Quis dicatur dux c. And some others would have the dignitie of a Baron to containe every noble dignitie under the Earle Grand de supplenda neglig plator in Sexto Some common Lawyers there are which extoll the dignitie of a Baron before that of the Earles by reason of a subcription to a decretall epistle directed Baronibus Comit. regin Portugal They not considering that in another place in the same decretals it is more orderlie placed
antient Saxon Testament of one Arfrie an Earle which is brought to light by Master Lambert in the description of Mephem in the preambulation of Kent in those times The Thanis were for the most part deemed Noble and held one and the same dignitie as the Barons doe The word Thanis being usuall in that sence not onely among our English Saxons but also with the Scots and Danes as concerning the Scots Hector Poet writeth Malcolmum regem titulo Comitatum honestasse And as touching the Dane the Thanis among them are yet in use as liberi Domini such as are the Barons by this it may appeare that the name of Baron was not usuall amongst the ancient English Saxons for that in the subscription unto the graunts of Kings whereunto with the signe of the X were subscribed the names of all noble personages as well temporall as spirituall the said word Baron cannot bee heard of but in an antient Charter made in the name of Zolpher sometimes King of Mercia unto the Church of Peter-borough having these words Praecipimus quod praedict Monast dona sua sint habenda c. ab omni diminutione exact comitum c. Likewise to this effect have I seene in an old booke belonging to the Monast of West Edg. Rex concilio habito infra basilicum Westm presidente eo cum filio suo Edw. Dunstano Archiepiscopo universis Episc Baronibus suis dictā Ecclesiā de Westm. renovavit Neverthelesse the name of Baron was not much vsed within the Realme untill the Norman Conquest after which it grew very frequent In which time the notable cases c. of the Realme were debated before him and his Barons and by them adjudged as by divers Monuments extant may appeare Doomes-day in Canterbury whereof one is in this manner in the Record of Doomes-day 21. E. 3.6 Quidam Preposit Brumanus eo tempore R. Edw. coepit consuet de extraneis mercatoribus c. Also 21. Ed. 1. doth set forth by exemplification an act of Parliament made in a cause between the Abbot of Saint Edmondsbury and Arfast sometimes Bishop of Thetford which See was afterwards translated by Herbert to Norwich concerning the Visitation of the said Monasterie which Parliament was holden by the said King the Archbishop of Cant Barkshire and all other the Bishops Earles c. appeareth Moreover in the Record of Doomes-day in the description of Donesh is declared that at the time of the said Record there were at Warham of certaine Barons lands twenty houses standing and seventy destroyed by which appeareth that both name and dignitie of a Baron was sufficiently knowne in the time of the Conquest and as touching the vse of the name the word Baron seemeth to be frequented among the Norman Conqu of this Realme In lieu of the word Thane among the Saxons for as they in a large signification did sometime use the same to the sence c. of a free man borne of free parentage c. and so did the Normans vse it and therefore called their free Citizens of their best esteemed Cities and Burgesses c. by the name of Barons Bracton 272. and therfore the Citizens of London were called Barons Lond. in divers auntient Monuments of whom also Bracton writeth Per Barones Lond. c. So also there are diverse Charters wherin mention is made of such like Barons as the Barons of Warw. in Dooms-day and in our time the Burgesses of the five ports are called Barons and divers of the Nobility of Barons as well spirituall as temporall did in antient time set in the Exchequer in judicature Moreover as our Saxons had two kinds of Thanis Fleta lib. 2. cap. 24. the judges of that Court have been from antient times and yet are called Barons of the Exchequer the like hath been observed of Barons among the Norman Conqu for the Kings of this Realme have had their immediate Barons being the Peeres of this Realme so certaine other Noblemen especially the Earle Palatine and Earle Marchers whose Counties have confined upon the coasts of the enemie have had under them a kind of Barons as namely under the County Palatine of Chester were these Barons the Barons of Hatton Monbatte Mulbanke Shipbrooke Malpas Masy Kingderston Stockport c. The Earle-dome of Pembrooke being first erected by Arnulphus Mountgomery 7 H. 6.35 17. E. 3. inter placita 18. E. 2. Assis 30. Camois that conquered some part of the County and therefore the Earle thereof being an Earle Marcher had also under him his Barons for it appeareth by the Parliament rolles 18. E. 3. that the Baronies of Haverford Cammois Rochie and Castlegoton were antiently belonging to the Iurisdiction of the Earledome of Pembrooke and had their Chancery and Scals as other Barons upon the Marches vsed to have Hereof also it followed not onely in this Realme but also else-where that Earles had under them such as they called their Barons who held under them lands in Knights service and in the defence of their Lords and therefore in the Register of the Monast of Saint Iames of Northampton it is found that Simon Ea. of Northampton did get and confirme unto the said Abbey Omnia dona c. quae Barones sui c. infra burgum extra North. illis dederunt Many old Charters also are extant whereby it appeares which now time hath worne out of memory and yet the knowledge thereof serveth to good purpose namely to reconcile the different opinion of some men concerning the law 20. E. 3. Ass 122. for 20. E. 3. Thorpe holdeth opinion that none can hold per Baron but of the King onely and that no subiect can aliene his land to another to hold of such alienor per Baroniam which some Serjeants denyed to the which opinion of Serjeants Wilby and other judges agreed 2. E. 3. Ass 124. Prerog cap 7. Adding further that before the statute of Prerog Regis those that held per Baroniam might aliene some parcell thereof to bee holden by other since which is evident saith he in this that the antient Baronies doe consist most of services which began by occasion of such suites as aforesaid The assertion of both the said Iudges is good law for none can hold per Baroniam but of the K. Qu. c. Monarchs of the Realme And againe it is true that in some kind of feme a man may hold per Baron of a subject but diversis respect ergo distinguendū est None can hold per Baroniam as a Peere of the Realme and in course of perfect Nobilitie but of the Crowne onely For of this Bar. Bracton understandeth when he saith it is the strength of the Realme and these Barons according to the law Senderl are these Capitanei or Valvasor Majores there spoken of for Qui a principe vel ab aliqua potestate de plebe aliquare per feudum vestitus Lib 2. feudall tit
c. in procurator ad hujusmodi parliamenta per clerum mittenda consentient ut moris est expensis contribuant corundam In cujus rei Test c. 15. Febr. Anno 26. Franc. 13. per Petition parliament Whereby it appeareth that Barons by tenure are summoned in respect of their tenure As touching the temporall Barons by tenure mention is often made of them in the yeare-booke Records Glan 9. c. 6 c. as Glanv lib. 9. cap. 6. Baroniam retinet rex donec haeres c. Which reliefe for Baronies was at that time incertaine and rentable at the Kings pleasure but such incertainty of reliefe was brought to certaintie by the Statute of Magn. Chart. si quis Mag Char. cap. 2. c. de Comitat. integro per C.1. haeres Baron per C. mercas haeres Mil. per feodo mil. C. solidos Thus much of the temporall Baron and his reliefe In 3. H. 3. there was agnized an auntient perogative belonging to the Crowne and usuall from the Conqu in these words and so reported by Fitz-Herb Quod si aliquis Baron obijsset non h●beret haere●em nisi filias primogenit filia marit sit in vita patris Rex daret post natum filium quod remaneret in haereditat patris Bract lib. 5 Tract 2. cap. 2. fol. 337. c. Bracton writing of essoignes delivereth this learning that if any Baron that holdeth per Baroniam hath his absence excused by essoigne he which casteth such essoigne ought to find suretie that it is true but in the case of common persons that shall rest upon credit and the integritie of the Essoigner His words be these Ideo ne essoniator c. by which appeareth that there are temporall Bar. by tenure Now let us descend to the other authorities Sir Ralph Everdon Knight 48. E. 3.30 being one of the Barons of the Realme tempore E 3. was impannelled in a Jury to their priviledge and therefore for his exemption procured a Writ directed to the Judges of C.B. before whom the Jury was impannelled by which they were commanded to discharge the said Sir Ralph Reg. 179.14 15. H 8.35 H. 6.46 whereupon Belke chiefe Justice of C.B. examined him whether he held per Baroniam or no c. and whether hee had come to the Parliament as a Baron to which he answered that he held by a certaine part of a Baron and that his Auncest had likewise so done vpon good advice by means whereof he was discharged in which case is proved that there are ●arons by tenure and that they in regard of their tenure ought to be summoned In the Parliament 23. H. 6. there was a controuersie between W. E. of Arundell Inter. rot Parliamen 27. H. 6. and Tho. E. of Devon for their places in the Kings presence as well in the Parliament c. wherevpon there were diuers writings c. declared betweene them in the said Parliament the consideration whereof was cōmitted by the King to certaine Lords of the Parliament to decide the said title with all incidents thereto belonging Neverthelesse it being not accordingly performed and the said controversie remaining vndecided in the next Parliament 27. H. 8. the said K. was pleased that the Iudges should examine the said matter who having considered the allegations of either part and also an act of Parliament made 11. H. 6. concerning the same in the behalfe of Iohn E. of Arundell decided his Ancestors they certified first that the controversie was never matter of Parliament 2. that the said act wherby it was ordained that the said Iohn should have his seat in the Kings presence a● well in Parliament as els-where as E. of Arundell there was no mention made of his heires but of himselfe 3. That to the castle c. of Arundell the name c. of Earle then was and time out of mind had beene vnited and annexed and by reason thereof the saide E. did hold that name and not by creation all which being so certified it was enacted that the said W. E. of Arundell should retaine his prehemience by reason of the eastle as worshipfully for so are the words of the act as any of the E. of Ar. above the E. of Devon c. saving alwayes to the said E. of Devon his lawfull suite to the King in his high court of Parliament for his right by which President we do plainly see that the dignitie of that Earled was annexa feode and an Earldome by tenure in regard of which the Earles thereof have had their place in Parliament from whence may be deduced that the like may be observed of Baronies by tenure as of this E. by tenure I would wish those that denye Baronies by tenure to consider the statute of West 2. cap 42. where the Fees of the E. Marshall and Lord Chamberlaine are expressed which are to be taken by them vpon the homage of euery Baron by tenure where he holdeth by a whole Barony or by lesse And lest any should thinke that this ordained by the Statute should concerne any other Marshall or Chamberlaine Fleta will put him out of doubt Fleta lib. 2. cap. 5. which applyeth them to this purpose But ere wee proceed further there a riseth a Quere If a Baron by tenure grant the hononr holden by Barony whether shall such grantee have the said dignitie or otherwise Argument ex parte neg THey which deny Baronies by tenure doe vse this as their principall reason first if there be any then the Grantee of them must hold by the same tenure as their Feoffer 10.2 ca 1. Qu. ●mp terrar but that was per Baroniam the refore And if such Grant bee made to persons ignoble they then should bee Noble which were absured Ratio 1. Secondly it is very evident that many antient Mannors which in antient time were holden per Baron are now in the tenures of meane Gentlemen who may not dare to challenge it Thirdly some antient Barons are which have sold those Castles c. and yet retaine their dignitie and have been and are summoned to Parliament notwithstanding Distinctions considerable For the better anser it shall bee convenient to exhibit certaine necessary distinctions and thence to draw infallible distinctions and then Authorities and Presidents First therefore if a Baron by tenure doe aliene the same Distinct 1 either he doth it without licence or else with licence obtained If without Licence The conclusion then the Conclusion is certaine that it is forfeited and to be seized to the King and the Dignity extinguished in the Crown from whence it was derived The reason is out of Bracton because Baronies are the strength of the Kingdome and if they should be aliened without consent of the Soveriagne base persons innobled without desert c. for where the thing so aliened is an Honour it differeth much from the ordinary tenure in Cap. whereof if the Tenant
make alienation without licence 50. E. 3 c. 10. he is onely to make a fine by the Statute For authoritie Glanvill saith Mag. Char. cap 31. Glanv l. 7. cap. 1. Notandum est quod nec Episcopus nec Abbas quia corum Baroniae sunt de Eleemosina Regis non possunt de Dominicis suis aliquam partem dare ad remanenciam sine assensu consensu Domini Regis In 20. E. 3. certaine land being parcell of the Baronie of Brenbur was aliened by W. de Bruce 20. Ass 1 8 20 E. 3. Ass 122. 224. the Baron thereof without licence and in the argument of a Case concerning the same Greene said that parcell of a Baronie c. held in chiefe cannot bee aliened without his Licence Againe 46. E. 3. it was found by Office that W. Bishop of Chester had Leased for life to Io. Peston a Mannor 46. E. 3. Forf 18. parcell of the Baronie without Licence and resolved that it was forfeited but by mediation of the said Counsell the Bishop submitted and made a fine and severall Scire faec issued against the perceptors of the profits to answer the King Distinct 2. Thus much of Alienation without Licence But of the other part if a Baron by tenure doth aliene by Licence wee must distinguish for it is either made for the continuance of his Barony c. or else for some other consideration That if any such Alienation be made for the continuance of the Barony in the name then have the issue male with the Castle c. retained the Dignitie of a Baron and hereof have the Heires generall or next Heires females beene excluded And for proofe of this assertion many antient Presidents may be produced seeing they have happened almost in every age for three hundred yeares space of which some certaine doe ensue Barony of Grooby in Com. Leycest Willielm dr Ferariis Co. Derbie obiit anno 38. H. 3 Margaret Com. Derb Domina deGrooby Robeitus de Ferariis Comes de Derbie VVil De Ferariis Dom De Grooby ex Do. Mris Iohannes de Ferariis Dominus de Cartley VVill. de Ferariis Do. Minus de Grooby It appeareth by an Office found after the death of William de Ferarijs Lord of Grooby 23 H. 6. that Margaret Lady of Grooby gave to William Ferarijs her second sonne in taile the Mannor of Grooby by vertue whereof hee and his Heires wee Barons of Grooby The Barony of Kelp●cke Com Hereof Temp. E. 1. VVillelm Baro de Kelpecke Rob. VVallero Baro de Kel obit si neprod●● F. 1 Alicca Nuptal Laynec VVilielmus VValleion A●anus ● Laynet Baro de Kelp ra io Don. Robertus VValleron Prox Hae-res Robertus Walleron Baron of Kelpecke died 1. E. 1. without heire of his body and Robert Sonne of William Brother of the said Robert was his next Heire yet he gave to Allen Playnell the Lordship of Kelpecke c. in taile by force whereof he was Baron and summoned to the Parliament and he died Anno 27. E. 1. The Barony of Plankenoy in Com. Lincolne Temp. E. 2. Iohn Dreyn court tam D●e●n court Ba●on of Bla●knoy obiit ●o E. 2 VV. Dreyne ba. of Blank ●ntayled o-biit 38. E. 3 Iohn Dreyn-court Edmond Dreyncourt VVillielm Dreyncourt obiit ante ●atrem Isabell his next heire VVilliam Dreyncourt baron of Blanknoy The King to all Pat. Anno 10 E. 2. part 2. num 13. c. greeting Know yee that whereas lately our welbeloved Edm. Dreincourt considered that both his sirname and also his Armes after his death in the person of Isabel Dreincourt should bee quite blotted out of memory most earnestly desired c. To whose request in consideration of service to our Father and our selfe by our Letters Patents do grant so much as in us lyeth to the said Edm. to dispose to whom hee pleaseth By vertue whereof he gave them to William sonne of John Dreincourt in taile Esch 22. E. 3. S●m Parl. 7. E. 3. Claus dors part 25. the said Edm. died ult Ed 2. tempore E. 3. William was summoned to the Parliament by vertue of that gift till his death which was Anno 38. E. 3. The Barony of Holgate Com. Salop. Philip Barnell baron of Holgate Edward Barnell baron of Holgate Iohn Lovell ●he first Husband Maude Barnell heire to her brother Iohn Hand-lowe the scond hus-band Iohn Lord Lovell Nicholas Handlowe Baron of Holgate Iohn Lord Lovell Hugh Handlowe alias Bunnell Baron of Holgate Iocosa Vxor Tho●nae Ed-dington Margery uxor Ed-wardi Hungerford Paterina ux-or Iohannis Talbot It appeareth by divers officers in the time of Ed. the third that Iohn Handlowe in the right of Maude his wife was seized of the Mannor of Holgate Acton Burnell c. for life the remainder to Nic. Handlowe alias Burnell sonne of the said Maude and Iohn by a fine in Court And that Iohn Lovell was next heire of the said Maude and her first borne sonne by her first Husband And afterwards the said Nicholas was summoned among the Barons of this Realme to the Parliament by reason of the fine aforesaid And not the said Iohn Lovell that was next heire Thomas de Beauchampe Esch Anno 43. Ed 3. the elder Earle of WarWicke by a fine levyed 18. E. 3. intayled the Mannor and Castle of Warw. with divers other possessions to himselfe for terme of his life the Remainder thereof to Guy his eldest sonne and to the heires males of his body issuing and for want of such Heires the Remainder to come to Tho. Beauchampe brother to the aforesaid Guy and to the Heires males of his body c. And after the said Guy died without Heires males of his body leaving two Daughters and Heires living Afterward the said Earle died and the said Thom. the sonne entered into the Castle and Mannor aforesaid with other the premisses and was E. of Warw. by reason of the intaile aforesaid notwithstanding that Katherine Daughter of Guy next heire to the said Tho. the elder was living thirty yeeres after his death Richard Earle of Arundell by a fine levied 21. Ed. 3. intayled the Castle towne Esch Anno 9. H. 5. c. of Arund to him and the Heires males of the body of Elinor his wife by vertue whereof Iohn Matravers was E. of Arun. after the death of Tho. the Earle who died without issue male although his Sisters possessed divers lands whereof he died seized in fee. Thomas the elder Lord Barkeley Esch 5. H. 5. was seized in Fee of the Castle of Barkely and mannor c. And by a fine levied in 23. E. 3. he intayled the said Castle c. to himselfe for life the Remainder to Maurice his sonne in taile with other Remainder as before which said Maurice had issue Tho. Lord Barkley and Sir Iohn which Iohn died in the life of his Brother leaving James his Sonne and heire living after the said Tho. died 5. H. 5.
Honour given in respect of wisdome and vertue of him on whom it was first bestowed is not onely a due reverence of him c. while he liveth but also a memorable reward thereof to his posteritie see Tully Cicero pro Sextio Therefore this kind of honour is patrimoniall If infamy of the ancestor be a blot to posteritie as for it the law doth corrupt the blood for the offence of the Ancestor Reason would that the honour due to the Ancestor should be likewise Honour to the posteritie for Contraries doe carrie their contrary in reason For determination whereof it is to be noted that diversitie of reason hath bred diversitie of opinions Some thinke it is not descendable vnlesse the Heire be likewise called by Writ and that then its an inheritance but this is repugnant to the nature of a descent which commonly carieth the patrimony descendable by act in law vpon the death of the ancestors to the heire or not at all Wherefore divers presidents prove that this doth descend and there needs not any word of heire in the Writ of Summons onely there is a speech of a speciall Writ sometimes directed to Sir Henry Bromflet Teste Rege apud West 24 Iun. 27. H 6. when he was called Lo. Vescy by H. 8. in 27. yeere of his raigne wherein there are these words inserted Volumus tamen vos haeredes vestros masculos de corpore vestro legitime exeuntes Barones de Vescye Wherfore it is ever true that the heire of such a Baron when he is called to the Parliament that his descent of honour is thereby established and approved by the gratious Iudgment of our Soveraigne so it is also true that if it shall stand with her highnesse pleasure that such heire shall not be summoned at all for none come to so high a Councell except he be called then that Nobilitie is much impaired and in manner extinguished in the censure of all men for that it had no other originall but by writ of Summons for the which in the Judgement of the supreme Soveraigne he is secluded And thus much as concerning the first Article or point touching the descent in generall of this kind of Baronie As for the second principall Point The second point whether the Barony by Writ may descend to the heire Male it shall not be amisse likewise to view the reasons of each part that by the conflict of Argument the truth may the better be discerned Those which doe maintaine the affirmative part doe reason after this manner Ratio 1. On the affirmative part In reason the sexe of the Heire female ought no more to barre her of the dignitie then the nonage of the Heire male ought to barre him although during his nonage hee be not able to doe the service But as the service of the one is forbearing for the time So the sexe of the other may at all times be supplyed by the maturitie and sufficiencie of her husband Ratio 2. Offices of Honour which doe much import the publike weale being possessed by inheritance to descend to the heire female if there bee no Neeces heire male as the office of high Constable of England which descended unto the Daughter of Humfrey de Bohun Earle of Hereford and Essex as afore declared the office of Lord Steward descended unto Blanch Daughter of Henry Earle of Lancaster in whose right Iohn of Gaunt her Husband enjoyed the same The like may be said of the Office of Earle Marshall which descended by an Heire female unto the house of Norfolke All which Offices are as unfit to be exercised by a woman as it is unfit for a woman to bee summoned to the Parliament as a Baron by Writ And yet notwithstanding the Law doth allow the Husband of such a woman to exercise the Office of the one And therefore by the same congruitie of reason such Husband is likewise by law inabled to performe the other Ratio 3. Many Noble houses in England doe support and lawfully beare the Dignitie of Baronage unto them descended by women Renatus Cap nus de dom cap. H. 7. 8. of the which many are by Writ Moreover in France the dignitie to be a Peere of the Realme as Opimus by many examples proveth descendeth to the heire female for want of heire male The dignitie of Nobilitie descendeth likewise in Spaine vnto the female for want of Heire male which custome not being onely currant in our neighbour countries but with vs in an evident proofe in the case in question Ratio 1. on the Negat The adverse part object that the writ of summons c. by which the Baron hath his originall is to call him to be one of the members of that right high assemby of Parliament there to determine life and member plea and right of land c. but these things are convenient onely for the qualitie of men not to the other sexe Ergo it not to descend to the heire female Ratio 2. If it be answered that such heire female be unfit in her owne person yet may she marry one fufficiently able to excecute the same this answer will neither satisfie nor salve the inconvenience for admit she were at age at the death of her Ancestors vnmarried being in her owne choice the great causes of the Realme should be subject to her will in the choise of her Husband which were inconvenient Ratio 3 Thirdly if such husband bee summoned the writ should make meantion thereof for otherwise it may be taken that he was chosen in his owne person and not in her right but such a Summons wherein the wife was mentioned was never seene and if by a generall writ without mentioning his wife hee is thereby made Baron in his owne right Obser 1 Having heard the arguments on both sides place doth now require that we should interpose opinion to compound this controversie This question is somewhat perplexed by different Presidents for some Presidents prove that Baronies by Writ have descended to Heires females whose Husbands have beene called to the Parliament whether in their owne or Wives right it matters not but sure it is that such Marriage gave occasion to the Summons and such Husbands and their posterities beare the dignitie of the wives Ancestors for by this controversie wee purpose not to question the right of such Noble houses Obser 2 Secondly wee must acknowledge that the Qu. is to summon to the Parliament whom she please and therefore whereas Rodulph Lord Cromell being a Baron by Writ died having two Coheires Barony of Cromwell Eliz. married to Sir Thomas Nevill and Ioan the younger to Sir Humfrey Bourchier the said Sir Humphrey was called to the Parliament as Lord Cromwell and not Sir Thomas Nevill who had married the eldest Sister Obser 3 That if a Baron by Writ die his Daughter Sister or other collaterall Heire female being his Heire and that no collaterall Heire
p. 2. whereby Hugh de Burga was made Earle of Kent in the time of H. 3. which was Habend sibi haered suis de corpore Margaret uxoris suae sororis Alexandri Regis Scociae procreat pro defectu talis exitus reman Ricīs haered dicti Hugonis c. The manner of the Solemnitie used in the Creation of Barons by Patent The forme of Creation of a Baron is much after this forme The Baron newly to be Created is presented unto the Queenes Majestie sitting in her Chaire of state After this order he is apparelled In his Surcote with the hood a Baron bearing the mantle before him and two Barons in their Parliament robes on each hand one leading him The principall King at Armes bearing the Patent and the Officers at armes proceeding on before him when they come in presence of her Majestie they make their solemne obeysance three times And the Baron to be Created kneeleth downe before the Chaire of Estate the said King at Armes delivereth the Patent of Creation to the Lord Chamberlaine who humbly presents the same to her Majestie who delivereth the same to the principall Secretary to bee read who reading the same with a loud voyce at the word Creavimus the Baron which carrieth the Mantle presenteth the same to her Majestie who puts it on the new Baron whereby he is Created and then is the Patent read out to the end and delivered to the Queene who delivereth it to the Baron so Created who after most humble thankes given to her Majesty hee riseth up and they depart in like solemne order as they came with the Trumpets sounding before them The particular more full knowledge of these Solemnities I doe referre to the Colledge and Corporation of Heraulds to whom the knowledge of these things doth most specially appertaine For the better explanation of this kind of Dignitie the resolution also of certaine questions shall bee very requisite Quest 1 First if a Nobleman and his Progenitors have for a long time beene called to the Parliament and he a Baron either by tenure or by Writ And have had in regard thereof a place certaine in Parliament if afterwards the same Noble man shall be created a Baron of that Barony and by the same name by Letters Patents whether shall he and his heires retaine his old place in Parliament which he had according to the former dignitie or whether shall he lose his old place and take a new place according to the time of his creation onely The case of the Lord De la Ware received a resolution some what answerable to this Question De laware 11. Rep. Looke fol 1. E. 3 6. The Lord De la Ware 3. E. 6. being in sore displeasure which William West his Nephew and heire who was father to Tho. now Lord De la Ware procured an act of Parliament by the which the said William West was during his naturall life onely cleerely disabled to claime demand or have any manner of right Title or interest by descent remainder or otherwise in or to the Mannors Lands tenents or hereditaments title or dignitie of Tho. Lo. de la Ware his vncle And after the said Tho. Lo. De la Ware died and the said William West in the time of Qu. Mary was attainted of treason by verdict 2. 3 Ph. Mary 5. Eliz. and afterwards pardoned by Q. Mary and after by Parliament in the time of the O. Marestie that now is And after in 8. Eliz. was created Lo. De la Ware by Patent and had place in the Parliament according to his creation For that by the said act of Parliament in the time of E. 6. hee was excluded to challenge the sormer auntient Barony and after died whether the now Lo. De la Ware should take his place according to the Baron by Writ or according to his creation was the question The opinions of the Qu. Councell being her Maiesties Attorny generall and Solliciter were that the acceptance of the new creation by the said William West could not extinguish the antient dignity for he had not that antient Dignitie in him at the time of his Creation but that Dignitie was at the time of his Creation by the Act of E. 6. in abbeyance suspence or consideration of law and he thereby utterly dis-inabled to have the same during his life onely so as his acceptance could not extinguish that dignitie which he then had not nor could conclude his heire who was not disabled by the said act of 3. E. 6. to claime the antient Barony which opinion of theirs was soone allowed by the resolutions of the Lo. cheife Iustice of Engl. and Lord cheife Baron and so signified to the Lord Keeper But this to be noted by the reasons made for the said resolution That if the said Sir William West had beene Baron and intitled Nota. or in possession of the antient dignitie when he accepted the creation the law perchance might have beene otherwise but that remaineth as yet unresolved Quest 2 Secondly it may be questioned whether a Baron called by Patent ought to be named by the name of his dignitie in every Writ to be sued by him or against him The bookes of law doe make difference herein betweene Duke Marquesse 8. H. 6.10 30 H. 8.30 Earle Viscount c. which are allowed names of Dignitie and the Baron for they affirme that such Baron needeth not to be named Lord or Baron by his Writ but the Duke Marquesse Earle or Viscount ought to be named by their Names or Dignities Neverthelesse I doe take these bookes to be understood of the Barony by tenure or Barons by Writ onely for the title of a Baron by Patent in his Letters Patents under Seale adorned and named by the name of Status gradus dignitas and therefore is requisite to be named and such dignities are a parcell of the name of the possessor as well as the Title and Stile of Duke Marquesse Earle Viscount c. And although there may be conceived this difference last mentioned betweene the Baron by tenure or Writ and the Baron by Patent yet they being all members of the higher house of the Parliament they are thereby equally made Noble Honourable and Peeres of the Realme as they are Barons onely without any other distinction that I have observed And thus much concerning the three degrees of Barons within this Realme may suffice to be said in generall upon this occasion for the better understanding and resolution of the controversie in hand The priviledge of Barons There resteth last of all in this Treatise of Baronage that I would expresse some certaine of the sundry priviledges that the Lawes doe allow unto Barons and the Nobilitie of the Realm ingenerall in regard of that favour which all good policy in every wel-governed Common-wealth doth bestow and yeeld to the Noble and Honourable wherein I shall content my selfe onely with certaine of those
priviledges which I find mentioned in the Lawes of this Realme purposely omitting such as either the Civill Common or the lawes of forraigne Countries doe afford referring them to a fit place in an intended Treatise of Nobilitie Priviledge First therefore it is a priviledge that the Peeres and Nobilitie of the Parliament doe enjoy namely to bee tried in the cases of Treason Felony Mag. Char. 29 10. E. 4.6.20 H. 6. cap. 9 and such like by their Peeres The antiquitie and originall of this kind of triall hath as some men doe thinke his ground from the Statute of Magna Charta cap. 29. beginning that Nullus liber homo in these words Nec super eum ibimus nec super eum mittimus nisi per legale judicium Parium suorum But I take it to be more antient Triall by Peeres Where allowable De consuet feudorum as brought into this Realme with the Conquerour being answerable to the Norman and French lawes and agreeable with the customes severall where almost all controversies arising betweene the Soveraigne and his Peeres are tried per judicium Parium suorum This Triall in antient time was very oft had in Parliament as may bee collected by the Statute of 15. E. 3. cap. 6. 15. E. 3. cap. 6. 1. H. 4.1 13 H. 8.11 But neverthelesse the same may as well be performed by Commission under the Lord Steward of Eng. the forme manner and Solemnitie wherof is expressed in the bookes of Law This priviledge hath some restraint as well in regard of the person The restraint of the praviledge as in the manner of proceedings As touching the person First the Archbishops of this Realme although they bee Lords of the Parliament if they bee impeached of such assent as aforesaid shall not be tried by the Peeres of this Realme but by a Jury of other substantiall persons upon their oathes the reason thereof as I can conceive as before remembred 27. H. 8. Br. Inquest 100 Triall 142. Fine 2. Stamf. 153 namely for as much as the Archbishops and Bishops cannot passe in the like cases upon the tryall of any other of the Peeres for that they are prohibited by the Ecclesiasticall lawes to bee judges of life and blood reason would that the other Peeres should not trie them for this triall should be mutuall forasmuch as it is performed upon their Honour without any oath taken Secondly as touching the person 38. H. 6. Br. Treason none but Lords of the Laytie being Lords of the Parliament 38. H 8. Case Leo. Grey en le● Con. shall have this kind of Triall And therefore hereout are excluded the eldest Sonne and heire apparent of a Duke in the life of his Father though he be called Earle beare that title Likewise the eldest Sonne and Heire apparent of an Earle though he be onely a Lord or Baron or beare such Title Those that are Barons and of the Nobility of Ireland 19 20. Eliz 36.6 if upon the like offence committed in Engl. if they chance to be apprehended in Engl. they shall not be tried herein by their Peeres For the Lords of the Parliament of England are not their Peeres but the Lords of the Parliament in Ireland And thus much concerning the Restraints of the said priviledges in respect of the person As touching the manner of Proceeding the Nobilitie of this Realme doe injoy the priviledge of triall by their Peeres in Course of Inditement onely 33. H 8. Br. Iurors 48. Triall 142. 10 E. 3.6 Stam 152. which is a kind of proceeding ex officio between the Qu. highnesse and them But in any case of Appeale of felony which is in the suite of the subject they shall not have the same but shall be tried by a Jury of 12. men upon their oathes And thus much concerning this priviledge at this place and upon this occasion may suffice Likewise this priviledge the Nobility of this Realme doe enjoy Privilegiū secundum 48. E. 3.30 48. Assis 6. 35 H. 6.46 22. H. 8.22 Reg. 1 79. 15 Eliz. 315. That they are not so to be inpannelled in any Jury or inquest to make triall or inquiry upon their corporall oathes between partie and partie And if they be impannelled contrary thereunto they may have a writ out of the Chancery repeating this priviledge directed to the Iustices before whom such noble personages are impannelled commanding them to dissmisse him or them that were so impannelled out of the said Pannell This priviledge hath restraint in two cases Restraint 1. first if he inquire concerning the King and Cōmon-wealth in any necessary and important Decrees as businesse of this Realme then this priviledge is not allowed nor taketh place And therefore divers Barons of the Marches of Wales were impānelled before the Bishop of Ely and other Commissioners of Oyer and Terminer to inquire of notable outrage committed by Gilbe●t de Clare Earle of Gloucester against Humfrey de Bohun Earle of Pereford and Essex and his suits in Wales in the 20. yeere of E. 1. where Iohn de Hastings Edmond de Mortimer Theobald de Verdune and other of the Barons of the March●s of Wales challenged their priviledges aforesaid and much insisted upon the same but it was afterwards answered by the Court as by the words of the appeareth 20 E. 1. Rel. 14. Camera Scar. Eo quod res ist a dominum Regem coronam dignitatem suos tangit deinde fuit ex parte domini Regis Iohānt Hastings omnibus alijs magnat supranominat quod pro statu jure regnt Pro conservatione dignitatis Coronae pacis suae opponant manum ad librum ad faciend c. quod eis ex parte Domini Regis injungentur c. The Barons aforesaid neverthelesse did persist in their Challenge and in the end both the said Earle betweene whom the said outrage had heene perpetrated submitted themselves to the Kings grace and made their Fines Secondly Restraint 2 this priviledge hath no place in case of necessitie where the truth can no otherwise come to light for the Writ is Regist 179. Quia Barones in Assissis jurat c. poni non consuêrunt ut dicunt nisi eorum Sacrament adeo sit necessarium quod sine illis verit as in qua non possit tibi praecepimus c. In many Cases the Protestation of honour shall satisfie in Noblemen Privileg 3. Bract. l. 5. cap. 9. fol. 352.8.3.1 H. 4.1.13 H. 8.1 3 H. 6.48 Cooke 6.53 as in triall of their Peeres they proceed upon their honour not upon their oath And if a Nobleman on an action of debt upon an Accompt in case where the Plaintife is to be examined upon oath upon the Statute of 5. H. 4. cap. 8. it shall suffice to examine his Attorney and not himselfe upon his oath Yet if a Nobleman will give evidence to a Jury reason would that he should bee sworne
male can challenge the said Barony by any antient intayle or otherwise such claim by the Heire female hath heretofore beene allowed by the late right Honourable Commissioners in the office of the Early Marshall signified to the Queen as upon the Petition of the Sister and Heire of Gregory late Lord Dacres deceased may appeare In whose Pedegree it appeares that Thomas Lord Dacres Barony of Dacres had issue Thomas his eldest Sonne Ralph his second and Humphrey his third Thomas died in the life of his Father having issue Jone his Daughter and heire married to Sir Richard Fines after Tho. the Grandfather died wherevpon H. 6. by Patent 7. Novemb. Anno 37. declares the said Richard Fines to be Lo. Dacres but tempore E. 4. the said Humf. Dacres after the Attainder of the said Ralph himselfe by Parliament 1 E. 4 and after of the said Ralph and reversall of the said act in 12. E. 4. the said Humf. challenged the Baronie whereupon after it was controverted in Parliament they submitted themselves to the arbitrement of E. 4. for performance whereof they entered bond whereupon the King awarded vnder the privy Seale Award by King E. 4. 8. Aprill Anno 13. that the said Richard Fines should be reputed Lo. Dacres and that he and his Heires of the body of the said Richard should retaine the said place in Parliament which the said Tho. Lo. Dacres used And that the heires of the body of the said Tho. should enjoy the Mannor of Holbeck And that the said Humf. Dacres should be reputed named and called the Lo. Dacres of Gillesland And that hee c. should keepe the place in Parliament next beneath the said Richard Fines c. And that the heires of the said Tho. Dacres should have the Mannor of Fethington c. in Taile Nota. And so note that Gillestand the antient Barony remained to the heire male Obser 4 Observe also that if any Baron doe die without issue male and that by some speciall intaise c. by which an heire female enjoyeth the inheritance of the said Baron such heires females have beene called to the Parliament and not the husband or issue male of of such heire female and this appeareth by a notable controversie Tempore H. 7. between Sir Robert Willoughbie Lo. Brooke and Richard Nevill Lo. Latimer Barony of Latimer for the Barony of Latimer which in effect was The said Lo. Brooke challenged the said Barony as cosen and heire of Eliz. his great grandmother who was sister and heire to Iohn Nevill Lo. Latimer who died without issue And herevpon exhibited a Petition to H. 7. in Parliament whereunto Richard then Lo. Latimer was called to answer who agreed the descent viz. that the said Eliz. was married vnto Sir Tho. Willoughbie second Sonne to the Lo. Willoughbie but H. 6. because the said Iohn died without issue and that the next heire was female did therefore call to the Parliament Sir George Nevill second sonne of Ralph Earle of Westmerland to be Lo. Latimer which George was grandfather of the said Richard namely Father of Hen. father to the said Richard in debate of which cause our Question viz. whether a Barony by Writ may descend vnto heires females was debated and in the end adjudged with the said Rich. which Presidents doe afford vs 2. Iudgements in the point Object But here the former President of the Barony of Dacres may be objected to incounter this conclusion for whereas the heire female married to Sir Rich. Fines he was Baron of Dacres and Raynolph and Humf. the heires males placed below the said heire female by H. 6. and E. 4. Answ This Objection is easily answered for although H. 6. did declare him Lo. Dacres yet Rand. being heire male bare also the title of Lo. Dacres and by that name was attainted 1. E. 4 Wherefore the Reason why the heire male could not be regarded was the attainder Ratio and when this was reversed E. 4. to satisfie both competitors thus orderd it And thus much concerning the second point whether a Barony by writ may descend unto the heire female Concerning the third point admitting such descent to their female The third Article when no male can claime it for then doth this question take place whether her husband should enjoy that dignity in her right or no something hath beene said hereof in the last question But for satisfaction wee are to insist upon a resolution in the very point tempore H. 8. When Master Wimbish tooke upon him the stile of Lord Talbois jure uxoris having no issue by her The King assisted both by civill and temporall Lawyers gave sentence Resolution ●cmp H. 8. that no husband of a Baronesse should use her stile untill he had by her a child whereby he should be intitled by the curtesie to her inheritance Ratio 1 The speciall reasons that occasioned this sentence were 2. first the inconvenience that the husband should be a Peere of the Realme to day and to morrow by the death of his wife none and so honour subject to mutation without default of the partie Ratio 2 Secondly if he had issue if he should not beare the stile then should his Son after the death of his Mother dying in the life of his Father bee a Baron without land for it the Father hath by the curtesie but these questions take place where there is no Heire male at all And thus much concerning the nature qualitie and estate of the Baron by Writ and for resolution of the severall points and articles of the question proposed may suffice onely note the Case in 13. E. 3. where William de Clinton having married the Countesse of Huntington 13. E. 3. Briefe 259. they joyned in an Assise of Nusance for levying a Market c. Exception was taken because he did not name himselfe but it was over-ruled because having it Jure Vxoris by the Law he may not use the same title having no other title thereunto Now come we to Barons by Patent A Baron by Creation Barons by Patent is he or shee to whom the King hath conferred Baronies by his Letters Patents The usuall words are Considerantes itaque generis claritat vel grata obsequia quae A.B. Mil. nobis praestiterit c. Sciatis nos c. praefat A.B. adstatum gradum dignitat honor Baronis te ereximus praefecerimus creavimus eidemque A.B. nomen c. Baronis de T. imposuimus c. Ac per patentes damus c. habend praefat A.B. Haer. c. This kind of Dignitie shall bee of such continuance as shall be limited in the Habend sometimes for life sometimes pur auter vie as some hold opinion in 32. H. 6. 32. H. 6.296 It may bee in the speciall or in the generall And this kind of Patent was usuall before the Statute of 2. as it apeareth by the Patent Pat. 13 H. 3. in turre