Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
lord_n	according_a	act_n	adjudge_v	40	3	9.9335	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A57925	The Tryal of Thomas, Earl of Strafford, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, upon an impeachment of high treason by the Commons then assembled in Parliament, in the name of themselves and of all the Commons in England, begun in Westminster-Hall the 22th of March 1640, and continued before judgment was given until the 10th of May, 1641 shewing the form of parliamentary proceedings in an impeachment of treason : to which is added a short account of some other matters of fact transacted in both houses of Parliament, precedent, concomitant, and subsequent to the said tryal : with some special arguments in law relating to a bill of attainder / faithfully collected, and impartially published, without observation or reflection, by John Rushworth of Lincolnes-Inn, Esq.	Strafford, Thomas Wentworth, Earl of, 1593-1641, defendant.; Rushworth, John, 1612?-1690.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons.	1680 (1680)	Wing R2333; ESTC R22355	652,962	626

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there_o shall_v be_v a_o account_n give_v wednesday_n november_n 18_o 1640._o ordered_n that_o no_o member_n of_o this_o house_n shall_v visit_v the_o earl_n of_o leave_n strafford_n during_o the_o time_n of_o his_o restraint_n without_o licence_n first_o obtain_v from_o the_o house_n order_v a_o message_n be_v send_v to_o the_o lord_n to_o desire_v they_o that_o they_o will_v please_v to_o appoint_v a_o committee_n of_o a_o very_a few_o that_o in_o the_o presence_n witness_n of_o some_o of_o this_o house_n may_v take_v such_o deposition_n and_o examine_v such_o witness_n as_o they_o shall_v name_v upon_o interrogatories_n and_o question_n as_o shall_v be_v present_v to_o they_o by_o order_n of_o this_o house_n concern_v the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n and_o the_o interrogatory_n testimony_n and_o witness_n to_o be_v keep_v private_a until_o the_o charge_n be_v make_v full_a and_o perfect_a order_v that_o mr._n pym_n go_v up_o with_o this_o message_n accompany_v with_o so_o many_o as_o 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both_o house_n concern_v article_n exhibit_v in_o maintenance_n of_o the_o charge_n against_o sir_n george_n ratcliff_n sir_n john_n strangways_o go_v up_o with_o this_o message_n it_o be_v move_v that_o the_o house_n will_v think_v of_o some_o answer_n to_o the_o lord_n concern_v the_o charge_n against_o the_o lord_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n and_o the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n deliver_v from_o the_o scottish_a commissioner_n at_o a_o conference_n by_o a_o committee_n of_o both_o house_n monday_n january_n four_o 1640._o ordered_n that_o a_o conference_n be_v desire_v with_o the_o lord_n to_o morrow_n morning_n concern_v the_o state_n the_o disorder_n and_o danger_n of_o the_o new_a levy_a army_n irish_a army_n and_o to_o present_v they_o to_o their_o lordship_n and_o to_o desire_v they_o to_o join_v with_o the_o house_n in_o a_o petition_n to_o his_o majesty_n for_o the_o disband_n of_o that_o army_n the_o committee_n appoint_v for_o the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n business_n be_v 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