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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A16643	A plaine confutation of a treatise of Brovvnisme, published by some of that faction, entituled: A description of the visible Church In the confutation wherof, is shewed, that the author hath neither described a true gouerment of the Church, nor yet proued, that outward discipline is the life of the Church. Whereunto is annexed an ansvvere vnto two other pamphlets, by the said factioners latelie dispersed, of certaine conferences had with some of them in prison. Wherein is made knowen the inconstancie of this sect, what the articles are which they still maintaine: as also a short confutation of them. There is also added a short ansvvere vnto such argumentes as they haue vsed to proue the Church of England not to be the Church of God.	Alison, Richard, controversialist.	1590 (1590)	STC 355; ESTC S100153	67,007	148

beholde what then to enioy so blessed a communion But to begin withall the place of Salomon Can. 6. 4. 9. is much abused by the author whilest that it is applied to cōmēd the beutie of the church which is nothing else but blacknesse as the church her selfe acknowledgeth For wheras in the former chapter the church hath accused her selfe of negligence in not perfourming her dueties vnto her spouse And the daughters of Ierusalem comforting her she declared his nature and disposition the place of his abode c. whereby shee doeth aggreuate her former fault For quem beneficia accepta meliorem non reddunt is certe etiam grauius suppliuum commeretur Hee whome benefites receiued make not better doth deserue the more grieuous punishment And surely the greater the loue of Christ is to the church the greater is the sinne of the church in not performing dutie Novv in the former parte of this sixth chapter her beloued doth comfort her doth assure hir that she is as dere vnto him novv as euer before she had beene So then it is not the excellencie of the church that commendeth her but her spouse through his gracious fauor doth accept of her notvvithstanding her defects which she acknowledgeth To let this passe let vs consider the seuerall parts of this visible church Her King and Lord is the king of peace and Lord himself of al glory the sauior of Sion Esa. 62. 11. a king Iohn 12. 15. and one whose soueraigntie was figured in Melchizedek Heb. 7. 8. So that in regard of this hir king we also do confesse the church to be glorious She enioyeth most holy and heauenly lawes Most true it is that the commandements of Christ are such that it cannot iustly be counted a seruitude to be obedient vnto them yrksome they are no doubt to a carnall man but not to him that loueth God this is it that is witnessed in the places alledged viz. Matt. 11. 30. and 1. Iohn 5. 3. but what are these Lawes and commandements Our Sauiour Christ say they was fortie daies after his resurrection conuersant with his Apostles teaching them those things which concerne the building of the church and kingdome and the Apostles according as they haue receiued instruction of him so they builded and lefte vs a patterne nowe So that these most holie lawes were giuen by Christ to his Apostles betvveene the times of his resurrection and ascention VVhereunto I saie that although the discipline of Christ beeing his owne ordinance is most holy yet this is to put it in the number of vnwritten verities when men would proue it by such arguments as this is And as for the saying of Christ by them produced it doth not speake of discipline for hee onelie willeth his Disciples to take his yoake vpon them I knowe that they take this Yoake for discipline but the circumstaunces of the place do bewraie their ignorance in so thinking For in bearing this yoake CHRIST willeth that his example bee followed Learne of me saith Christ. Nowe I woulde vnderstande of these men what was that Church wherein Christ founde this discipline established and submitted himselfe vnto the same leauing this his deede for an example to bee followed if they cannot tel me this as it is harde to shewe that which neuer was I wonder what hath moued them to wring out discipline from hence seeing that Christ onely exhorteth to submission meeknes c. by his example The Philosopher was not so grosse in his Panspermia as they are in making quidlibet ex quolibet so commonly Yet I saie againe the lawes of Christ are most holy and that discipline which he approueth most necessarie which is not the gouernment which heere is decyphered for it shall appeare to bee the deuice of man without the approbation of the vvord of God but the rule of his worde wherein vvee are taught to emploie our selues in our seuerall callings to performe those dueties which in our callings God requireth at our handes As for the vigilancie of Pastors the sinceritie of Doctors the carefulnesse of Gouernors the trustinesse of those vnto whom the care of the poore is committed the sobrietie of relieuers the humilitie obedience and meekenesse of the people these are required in the word of God and all the testimonies in this cause cited one or two excepted are admonitions exhortations that men wold be carefull of these things as they do concerne them in their callings But do these proofes here vsed iustifie that the visible church enioyeth such a people qualified in this sort Nay those that come neerest the matter as Rom. 12. 7. 8. Act. 20. 28. Matth. 5. 5. Deut. 18. 10. are but exhortations vnto this fidelitie vigilancy c. but no promises that the church shal enioy such men alwayes Some of these scriptures do flatly shew the contrarie Read Act. 20. vers 29. 30. I know saith Paul there shall enter in among you grieuous wolues not sparing the flocke c. It is also the iudgement of some that one of the deacons spoken of Act. 6. was the first of the Nicholaitans mentioned Reuel 2. 6. Other places alleaged are nothing to the purpose as Ioh. 13. 7. which is not spoken of the widowes that here are called releuers but to the disciples of their duties in helping one an other Likewise Esay 60. which is a prophesie of the calling of the Gentiles and Eze. 36. 38. which promiseth a blessing vpon Israell are farre from prouing that euerie member of the visible church is meeke obedient c. thus hath our author tolde vs of many good things without due proofe of any one VVhen this describer of the church had shewed vs the sinceritie of euerie member particularly he giueth his iudge ment of them all iointly saying Euerie stone is liuing elect pretious which is confirmed with three testimonies the first is 1. Reg. 7. 9. where the building of Solomon being shewed in order that he built one house to dwell in an other called the forrest of Libanon a porch for the throne where he iudged and a house also for Pharaos daughter it is said All these were of costlie stones And how then did euerie of these buildinges to what vse soeuer they were appointed represent the visible church of God The onely sight of this place is sufficient to shew what force it hath to prooue the matter in question The second place is Zach. 14. 21. Euerie pot in Ierusalem and Iuda shall be holie vnto the Lord of hostes and all they that sacrfice shall come and take of them and seeth therein by this ceremonie the people were put in minde that euerie of them doe worship the Lorde with holy affections but this doeth not prooue that all the people did thus behaue thēselues in Gods worship the contrary is plaine Agg. 2. 11. 12. c. The last place which is 1. Pet. 2. 5. cōmeth more neere the marke for the

vaine repetitions are not vsed by the Apostle But to go forward Brownist Their releeuers or widowes must bee women of sixtie yeeres of age at the least for auoiding of inconueniences they must be wel reported of for good workes such as haue nourished their children such as haue bene harberous to strangers diligēt seruiceable to the saincts compassionate and helpfull to them in aduersitie giuen to euerie good worke continuing in praiers and supplications night and day These must first be truelie proued then if they be found blamelesse administer c. Answere As concerning widowes we grant that they may be helpfull to the sicke but yet so burdensome vnto the rest that the reliefe of the poore whiles they are to bce maintained thereby shall be diminished so that they may more truly be called the relieued then relieuers Now for the necessitie of such in the church it is not proued out of Tim. 3. 10. nor yet out of anie place of Scripture else why For the L. knoweth the impossibility in hauing such in euery congregation in maintaining them the most that can be granted is that were the church possessed of such therwithall able to maintaine both them and these whome they were to attend vpon then would it be a great comfort to them all I spare to speake further of these only it may be obserued that the place cited to proue such an office in the church 1. Tim. 5. maketh nothing for it For Paule as the circumstanstances of the place doe shew speaketh of such as are to be succored by the church Honor widdows which are widdowes indeed that is which haue nede of helpe and so procedeth in shewing what they are which especially are to haue the relief of the church vz. such as by reson of their age and want of frends are not able to help themselues althogh in a godly affection they hate idlenesse but as for the yonger widdowes they are not to liue by the maintenance of the church least that idlenesse be maintained the mouthes of the enemies be opened against the truth the church be abused whiles the goods of the church be spent vppon those who make protestation that they haue no other comfort for to such only is the relief of the church to be giuen yet through the lust of youth do betake themselues to mariage again which thogh it be a matter lawfull in it self yet is it vnlawful to those that before God his church haue vowed the contrary and thus is this place expounded by Theophilact Ambrose Bullinger Claudius Guilliaud and others Thus haue we at the last the offices officers of a reformed church described so wel as our autor could of whom togither with his cōplices we may truly say as Adrianus spake on his death bed of his phisitions that they brought him to his end these reformers in their platforme here prescribed haue offred vs such a medicin that if the Church shoulde bee voide of sense and receiue it shee might in short time complaine that these her Phisitions had brought her to her end yet we must beleeue vpon paine of damnation that it is a good receit wherein they deale like vnskilful and vnconscionable Phisitions who promise a wonderfull cure rauishing the senses to conceiue much more to beholde what then to inioy so blessed a comfort and yet will minister that which will bee the bane of the patient Christ indeede hath shewed an outwarde gouernment vnto his church whereof although we are not capable partly by reason of mens insufficiencie to order it partly by meanes of the crookednes of the common sort who will not abide to be ordered by it but especially for that a whole nation cannot so easily be brought to that vniforme order as some one priuate congregation yet assuredly the neerer we come to this his ordinance the more heauenly is that harmonie and consent of ours And herein I will not staie in shewing how the laws of our Church of Englande haue prouided that in the congregations we should haue Pastors In the Vniuersities such as execute the office of doctors in bringing vp those in the knoledge of Gods word which may supplie the places that are void of teachers in the Churches in all places some to obserue the behauiors of men others to collect the reliefe of the poore c. because that I write not an Apologie for the Church of England onely I woulde haue men to see the gouernment of Brownisme what it is viz so far disagreing from the discipline of Christ that neither the frame of their building nor the builders themselues haue the approbation of Gods worde whereof they spake but in this their dealing are like vnto the Cuthits the rest who inhabiting Samaria falsely bragged that they were the children of Iacob and blindly deceiued thēselues with a false worship as may appeare by one of them I meane the woman of Samaria Iohn 4. For as the Lord had established his worship vppon mount Sion so one Manasses to aduance himselfe erected a temple vppon mount Gerazin the Iewes according to Gods appointment worshipped at Sion the Samaritans at Gerazin A cōtrouersie rose between them which of these people did best Christ sayth to the Samaritanes Yee worship ye wot not what yet they had a tēple a Priesthood and other ordinances which were kept at Ierusalem But who gaue Manasses authoritie to erect a temple assemble a people ordain c. These men came not so neere the discipline of Christ as the Samaritans did resemble the discipline at Ierusalem and Manasses being the sonne of the high Priest had as good a warrant for his proceedings as a priuate man might haue and yet his dealings were accursed Nowe when these mē faile both in this that they haue not authoritie to erect discipline and also if this were graunted in that they haue described a false gouernement we may not pronounce a blessing vppon them Brownist Now as the persons giftes conditions manners life and proofe of these officers is set downe by the holie Ghost so are their offices limited seuered and diuerse Answere VVee haue alreadie hearde both of the giftes and of the offices also of these seuerall callings for so our author doth confesse afterwardes Concerning which it is apparant that the Pastor and Doctor are so described as if there were no difference betweene them The Elder indeede is seuered from them both as if gouernment were peculiar vnto him alone and his commission is sette downe so large as if it were not limited The Deacons office may be diuerse from the rest but as yet we cannot finde it in that which he hath hetherto set downe VVe will therefore consider that which followeth For either to make his volume greater or to amende that which hath bene sayde hee fetcheth the matter about againe and notwithstanding hee hath told vs as he acknowledgeth what these offices are yet a good lesson cannot