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A10945 Seuen treatises containing such direction as is gathered out of the Holie Scriptures, leading and guiding to true happines, both in this life, and in the life to come: and may be called the practise of Christianitie. Profitable for all such as heartily desire the same: in the which, more particularly true Christians may learne how to leade a godly and comfortable life euery day. Penned by Richard Rogers, preacher of the word of God at Wethersfield in Essex. Rogers, Richard, 1550?-1618. 1603 (1603) STC 21215; ESTC S116354 833,684 644

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for necessity onely or for feare of punishment or shame of the world or because they would be rich all which are carnall sensuall and diuellish respects as I sayd before in forbidding all vitious affections in mens lawfull actions neither do they please God which thus go to worke And further they must do these lawfull workes in perswasion and confidence that God will blesse them therein and giue them good successe and take that for their daily bread and blessing which God in their thus-going to worke doth bestow vpon them And lastly they must do these without adding the common sinnes which wicked persons do vse at their worke as swearing lying negligence idlenesse falshood and deceiuing cursing quarrelling impatience and contention These and such other of their owne deuising the wicked do bring in among the lawfull workes which God commaundeth them to do and mixeth such euils with the doing of the workes which of themselues are good that they vtterly marre and deface them thereby depriue themselues of Gods blessing and it causeth their callings and trades to be meanely accounted of and in discredit with such as are not able to iudge as though none could vse them better whereas others as poore as they and as much put to their shifts yet taking better direction and depending on God and carefully abstaining from such sinnes as are wont in the most to accompany their lawfull workes and dealings do liue in them contentedly peaceably and holily and do in that manner put honor and beauty vpon their callings and testifie that God hath to singular ends and purposes appointed and giuen them vnto vs. And thus would God haue Christians go to their worke and do all their lawfull businesse not as hirelings onely in regard of their bellies And this were a goodly and most beautifull sight to behold in all sorts maisters seruants buyers sellers and euen in the poore labourers yea cutters of wood and drawers of water and they that are of meanest place in families may liue godly in them while religion rules their actions and while they desire to do them as they are taught in the word of God And they who go to worke after this maner may be merry at their worke and merry at their meate and yet I meane not as the prophane and earth-wormes who sometime are merry when they haue more cause to be heauy seeing neither they nor their worke are pleasing to him but the other may reioyce and be glad by Gods allowing yea commanding it them where he saith Reioyce thou and thine before the Lord thy God in all that thou puttest thine hand vnto And againe Serue the Lord thy God that is in that thou art appointed by him to do in ioyfulnesse and with a good heart for the aboundance of all things And this is the mirth and ioy of heart which the Apostle willeth vs to take our part in saying Speake to your selues in Psalmes and Himnes and spirituall songs singing making melodie to the Lord in your hearts with thankes for all things through Iesus Christ In this sort hath God allowed his seruants who haue learned and are resolued to obey him in all things to reioyce and go about their worldly affaires and in like maner doth he allow them to vse all their lawfull liberties in this life all which he knoweth they haue need of to allay the tartnesse and asswage the painfulnesse and griefe which through their afflictions are infinite wayes ready in all places to meete with them And not to do lawfull businesse and workes thus and with the three former rules set downe but as the vnruly and disordered people of the world do them is to make the lawfullest and excellentest callings base and meane and to the persons themselues most hurtfull while they stand forth against them as accusations for that they haue vsed them vnlawfully which in themselues are very honest and lawfull which I say that I may answer the brutish and irreligious sort who say they know no difference betwixt those who are counted godly and themselues seeing they are faine say they to worke for their liuing as well as we their godlinesse will not feede them The difference let them learne from that which I haue sayd I haue also spoken this by occasion for the satisfying of the simple-harted that they may not thinke that in requiring that we should liue euery day in a godly maner I do vrge any to leaue off and lay aside their callings and businesse and yet this I shew to be required by the Lord how and in what maner those lawfull workes ought to be done of them that he therein may be pleased And so I conclude that the beleeuer ought euery day to arme and frame himselfe to a godly life and to cast off all that sauoreth not thereof as in some which are most vsuall actions I haue shewed seeing his whole conuersation must beseeme the Gospell remembring what the wise man saith All that thine hand shall find to do do it with all thy power for there is no worke in the graue whither thou goest Which if it were perswaded throughly to men that it ought to be so and that it is as necessarily to be looked after as their maintenance health yea or their life it selfe which none wel aduised wil deny then should there not be this posting it off from one to another which now there is nor this refusing to be subiect to God in this maine and great commaundement of doing all to his glorie which they that refuse do refuse godlinesse it selfe And there should not be this parting of stakes betwixt God and our selues that sometime we will be forward and sometime backeward in some things obedient but in others denying our obedience which causeth such patching and peecing of duties as is farre from holinesse without which yet we shall neuer see the Lords face whereas yet by constancy in duty and keeping of a daily course therein much dulnesse deadnesse barrennesse slouth idlenesse and the fruits thereof lewd lusts and many such dangerous euils should be auoided with which euen many good Christians to their great heart-smart afterwards are annoyed because they know not how to do better The sixt point of our daily direction in thankfulnesse I meane a renewing of this duty to the Lord euery day that so we may still see and acknowledge our selues indebted vnto him and be the fitter to go vnder any of his fatherly chastisements which he shall lay vpon vs which without it will presse vs downe and raise bitternesse in our hearts and also that by it we may the ofter call to mind Gods many kindnesses to cheare our harts which are too soone forgotten of vs. The Prophet Ieremie forceth this daily duty to be continued of vs when he saith that the mercies of God are renewed vpon vs daily and what followeth vpon that but this that our
the things which they leame therein what is the happiest estate of life that heere can be inioied euen that which hath the promises of this life and of that which is to come They grow wise in obseruing that God verifieth indeed all that he hath spoken in his word and not a iotte thereof doth faile and therefore they become more resolute euery day against all euill and sinne because they see that God will be reuenged vpon euery euill way and that it is certaine if they sinne as others doe he smiteth and they grow to see that he keepeth promise towards his who rest on him euen in their greatest streights Which how great a benefite it is may be gathered by this that it bringeth most neare communion with God by his spirit which worketh in them and which the world cannot receiue as our Sauiour saith He that loueth me shall be loued of my father and I will loue him and will shew my selfe vnto him He that keepeth my word as he shall be loued of my father so we will come to him and abide with him whereby he meaneth that he will make knowen his minde and will to them as familiarly as they which vse to conuerse one with another and eate and drinke together for the which cause also he calleth them his friends which doe the things which he commandeth them as to whom he will open euen his secret as men vse to doe to their friends and not to seruants For he loueth Zion his militant church which he hath chosen and will dwell there and delight in her more then all the habitations of Iacob that is then all other beside it And what fruite this neare communion with God doth bring which his faithfull seruants haue offered them it may easily be coniectured because as Salomon saith The heart of a friend resteth in his friend and a friend is neerer than a brother and if the perfection of loue be ioy there must needs be great ioy to Gods faithfull people when they are so deare to the Lord and he beloued of them so intirely Therefore as God giueth to his many comforts and that also he doth many waies and in many respects through the hope of eternall life through true praier and by a good conscience as hath beene said so in that they know his will and haue proofe of his familiarity with them as it pleaseth him to call it their ioy is yet more increased especially after a longer continued acquaintance with the Lord in his word And what is happinesse such I meane as in this present life may be inioied if this be not namely to partake all these with him thus to goe in and out before the Lord and to haue him thus the staffe of our comfort in al estates Which maketh ready to die and fit to liue and giueth greater gaine in both then in any other condition or course can be found and inioied yea this maketh the inioiers of it happy heere and certaine that afterwards they shall be happy for euer and though sathan doth much quaile this by occasion of troubles and our frailties yet it is certaine that it shall be recouered againe This in few words is that which I wish the true Christian reader to meditate on and consider which all Gods people haue so great need to inioy and partake by faith as it must needs grieue all that doe vnderstand and loue the excellency of it to see so many to be void thereof to whom yet the Lord hath graciously and freely bequeathed it And I pray God in most feruent maner to inlarge the hearts of all his good seruants that seeing many mourne in Sion and are holden downe with sundry and sore afflictions till they faint againe as though there were no comfort to be found for them to the easing of their heauy hearts that they may consider what the Lord hath prouided for the easing of them euen this to beleeue that all the forementioned priuiledges belong vnto them that though their sorrowes be many and great yet they may not driue them from hope in God but send them more earnestly to grone to him by praier that they may receiue and take these things to their comfort which he for that very cause hath committed to writing that those his children which are brought low and into distresse and almost to vtter despaire may lift vp their heads and reioice for so great hope of redemption and deliuerance at hand comming towards them And this will recompence aboundantly all the labour that hath beene taken and need no more be lost when it is once inioied And therefore if the beleeuers may know by Gods word that they haue a part in all the forementioned prerogatiues and therefore delight in his word which bringeth such tidings to them if they may thereby be made acquainted with that maner of conuersation which pleaseth God best and maketh most for their owne comfort and by his spirit may haue communion with him which the world cannot haue I cōclude I say that the beleeuers haue great prerogatiues bequeathed them and that the priuiledges which God hath granted out vnto his beloued are most precious and worthy all labour and trauell to be come by And that I say no more of this it is no hard matter to conceiue what sweet consolation a beleeuing heart inioyeth which hath experience of this for he beleeuing the promises of these things from day to day and hauing most sweet peace of conscience with confidence as a fruite of beleeuing them already how great must his comfort needs be which ariseth from both and especially for the hope which he hath of that which is yet to come Oh that all who feare God did beleeue this as they may boldly and ought confidently to doe that they might inrich themselues by hauing their part in it from time to time So that nothing is more to be lamented in the world then this that God hauing called men to be partakers of so excellent priuiledges and appointed for them such varietie of blessings whereof I haue mentioned but some part that they should be so ignorant as not to desire to know them so carelesse as to reiect them so obstinate as to tread them vnder foote and so to lead a life I may truely say full of misery for want of them But whiles I set downe this me thinkes I heare some obiecting thus How can we be perswaded that God hath prouided this liberty for his in this world when both Scripture calleth our life heere when we be in greatest prosperity a wandring vp and downe heauily as in a pilgrimage or wildernesse and a sowing in teares that is to say full of griefe and Christ telleth his that in the world they shall finde tribulation and that by many afflictions and persecutions we must enter into his kingdom And experience also teacheth that these things are euen so
is a greater honour that he hath of a rude vnbridled and vncleane diuell made a well ordered sober and meeke Christian yea a sanctified person as the Scripture calleth him for by his holy spirit through the worke of the Gospell he hath made of an extortioner and oppressor a liberall and bountifull giuer as Zaccheus of an adulteresse a penitent woman reclaimed from the course of vncleane life as the woman in Luk. 7.47 and of a persecutor a preacher yea himselfe a persecuted man euen Paul the Apostle And how doth such a change thinke we when it is seene of men and the reporte of it heard among such as knew them before cause them to say The Lord hath done great things And such grace doth God giue to them I meane that feare him that he causeth by their light which shineth among men euen their very enemie to be at one with them yea to speake well of them and to glorifie their father which is in heauen And yet their beautie is to speake as the truth is chiefly within and not seene with eye As all was not heard of Salomon a farre off which was to be seene at home and yet not all seene that might be knowne to be in him The faithfulnes innocencie and rare continence of Ioseph with other graces which were in him when they brought him into such fauour credit and admiration amongst men how thinke we was God honoured who was the giuer of them Thus doth God honour them that honour him that he may be all in all and by them shewed to be most honourable And to speake of our owne time wherein we liue notwithstanding it affoord not so many examples of so excellent gifts and graces of holy life though in learning and knowledge few haue gone beyond it as so long libertie vnder the Gospell might iustly challeng which sinne I pray God be not laide to our charge but speedily repented of so yet we will not be ashamed to affirme to the great praise of God that both many gratious and godly people since the raigne of our most noble Prince haue been alreadie gathered to their fathers who in the dayes of their flesh did honour God highly and many remaine God be blessed amongst vs who haue and doe and to their end shall we doubt not to the great comfort of many weake ones commend the power of the Gospell preached amongst vs and cause that vnfained thankes be giuen to God by many for them And that both of the ministerie though nothing be more ridiculous to the Papists our aduersaries the Lord hath raised vp many who both preach sincerely and diligently and walke warily and worthie the Lord Col. 1.10 and vnoffensiuely seeking to please him in all things and of the people he hath drawne not a fewe who doe beautifie their profession and carrie themselues vnrebukeable among them who can iudge aright and are free from reprochfull and daungerous euils In such as I haue said is the Lord made admirable As it is written In Sion his Church shall God be praised and why because for them he hath done great things The Lord maketh the weake strong the ignorant prudent and such as sate in darkenes to see great light holy and glorious is his name Yea further the Lord teacheth his beloued ones in their prosperitie to count themselues but strangers in this world he causeth the things of greatest price to be little set by of them in comparison of his treasures which are not seene This honour haue many of his Saints The Lord giueth strength in tribulation aboue hope and maketh anguish and sorrow to become comforts false accusations and contumelious reports to be crownes to their heads and chaines of golde to their neckes which beare them And to be short he teacheth his to sucke sweetenes out of sowernes and to make good vse of all estates and they are able to doe all things through him that maketh them able yea persecution it selfe he maketh tolerable and ioyfull and when our weakenes can see so farre the greatest aduancement If these gifts of God with other such doe not greatly honour the Lord in the congregation of the righteous and if they which inioy them being gratious and of high estimation doe not most highly commend the giuer which is God where will men say that God is honored at all And so doth the Apostle require that it should be with Gods people Haue your conuersation honest among the Gentiles that they which speake euill of you as of euill doers may glorifie your father which is in heauen And yet I haue said nothing of their peace of conscience which Salomon saith is as continuall banquetting to them Saint Paul saith it passeth all vnderstanding euen in this one thing which the vngodly because they haue not they therefore know not for the stranger is not partaker of the childrens ioy know not I meane as it is felt and knowne of them which haue it In this one thing I say doth God get himselfe great glorie For they beleeuing in their hearts they cannot choose but vtter with their mouthes their deliuerances and the wonderfull things that he hath done for them And though they be for the most part contemptible in the world yet is the meanest of them more happie then the greatest of the world And if these things be well weighed which haue been said of this matter it shall not be marueiled at that the Prophet thus speaketh in the Psalme Glorious things are spoken of thee O thou citie of God! Yea glorious indeede as we here inioy them though we haue but a small part of our glorie in this life and so glorious that if they could be seene with eye they would so inflame men with the beautie of them that they would force them to set all their loue vpon them And thus by the graces which are in the life of Gods seruants and which are not to be found in other men it may be seene how God is honoured of them the contrarie whereof is done most apparently by the vngodly as much as lyeth in them Therefore to conclude this first reason except we can like to see Gods name ill spoken of his Gospell lightly accounted of and his person dishonoured and that by our selues the recompence whereof cannot be borne nor abidden of vs let vs not onely come out from the vncleane conuersation of the vnbeleeuers but let vs so lay hold on eternall life that we presse hard vnto the marke for the price that is set before vs and let the words of the wise be as goades to pricke vs forward out of our slouthfulnes and as nailes to fasten vs ioyntly and closely to Christ our head without hypocrisie that we faint not neither fall away but grow vp vnto the perfect age of Christians that so we may giue good testimonie that God is truely honored of vs
that they loue to lie in it still more foolish then children who cannot bee made to come nigh the water when they haue once been in perill of drowning and so they verifie the words of Christ Prou. 1.22 O ye fooles how long will ye loue foolishnes Which is the cause why not onely the most part of hearers are dead and cold practisers but euen many of the teachers though they do boldly vtter that which they haue read yet are faint followers of that which they teach or conceale much of that which they should deliuer because they finde the contrarie to be done of themselues which they see they should teach others and would shunne the reproch of the prouerbe Physition heale thine owne disease But they who turne their thoughts consideration wisedome and studie to this marking what is the blessed course of life and how it is attained vnto as they shall declare that they are wise so shall they bee sure to finde a singular helpe to godlines which they shal neuer repent of trauailing for It followeth in the next place that we see how God hath prouided no lesse helpe for vs in companie which because we haue much vse of and occasion to be often in it therefore least we might possibly returne out from it worse then we went into it as the most companies are such as doe make men more corrupt then they were before therefore the Lord hath taught his people how to carry themselues in all their meetings with others in such wise as not onely they may shunne the harme which is easily gotten therein but also haue much helpe and furtherance thereby to goe better forward in Christian duties But this point is handled at large in the next treatise Therefore I referre the reader thither CHAP. 10. Of prayer and the parts thereof thankesgiuing and request whereunto is added confession of sinnes HAuing now made mention of the two first kindes of the priuate helpes the third followeth containing the helps which may be vsed by ones selfe alone or with others also as prayer and reading Prayer is a calling vpon God according to his will and hath these two parts thanksgiuing and request whereunto is added the confession of sinnes Thanksgiuing is that part of prayer in which we being comforted by some benefit which in fauour God bestoweth vpon vs are drawne to loue and praise him and shew forth the fruites thereof In the which description we see three duties to be required of vs and three motiues or perswasions to drawe vs to performe them I will first mention these latter and then proceede to the duties The first motiue is knowledge and remembrance of some benefit receiued or promised vs. Which may be seene in the thanksgiuings of all Gods seruants as in Dauid after that he had receiued the sauorie and seasonable counsell by Abigaile and in Abrahams seruant when God had blessed him in his iourney to Aram. The same may be said of the leaper when he saw that he was clensed after he had made request for it to Christ And where there is no knowledge and due consideration of some particular mercie how can there be any true and hartie thanksgiuing howsoeuer in words there be a protestation for fashion sake as in them who say we must thanke God for all when yet they consider of nothing that moues them thereto The second motiue to thanksgiuing is ioy and gladnes of heart for the benefit which we thinke of or call to minde As appeareth by the psalme in them which returned out of the captiuitie saying When the Lord brought againe that is turned away the captiuitie of Sion his Church we became like them that dreame then was our mouth filled with laughter and our tongue with ioy And except we finde such sweetenes in Gods benefits either alreadie receiued or by faith embraced being promised the dutie of thankes can in no good sort be performed But that is verified which is commonly spoken that is a worke is vntowardly done which is not cheerefully gone about The third thing that should moue vs to this dutie of thankes is that which is most fit to worke the foresaid ioy and that is a perswasion that the benefit for which we giue thankes commeth to vs from Gods fatherly loue which is a farre greater matter to make vs glad then the benefit it selfe which is bestowed on vs. For if we should feare that it is sent as a snare to intangle vs or to heape hot coales vpon our head and to make our condemnation the more iust smal sweetenes should we finde therein but that which would be quenched with that feare and by an accusing conscience As for example what hartie ioy or sound thankes could that of the Pharisie be though in tongue he gaue the one and in countenance shewed the other when he had not this perswasion But God be thanked it is not so with his beloued ones but they knowing that their most louing father hath giuen them his Christ which is the greatest doth much more of fauour giue them all other things which are of lesse account which both reioyce their hearts when they remember any of these his blessings and stirreth them vp to a much more heartie performing of this dutie And as these three former things must be found in vs to moue vs to true thankfulnes for our comfort so to make it effectuall three duties are required First a continuance of our loue to God Secondly a desire to set foorth his glorie and in words to professe and confesse his goodnes Thirdly a further proceeding in obedience and walking worthie his kindnes For how can we choose but loue and set our hearts vpon him when wee may see the fruites of his fauour on euery side whither soeuer we turne our selues and the same euery morning renued Euen as the Prophet saith I loue the Lord because he hath heard my request and for his great and many mercies which there hee reckoneth vp So that they whose loue is set vpon the gift it selfe and the benefit being little affected towards the giuer and bestower of it how wide soeuer their mouthes are open in giuing thankes they are farre from the right offering of thankes to God Now if we loue the Lord we cannot but be carried with a feruent desire that God might bee knowne and beleeued on by others that they might come out of darknes neither can we satisfie our selues in seeking to aduance and magnifie him As wee may see in Dauid who being stirred vp by the consideration of Gods benefits had this affection in him thus declaring the same What shall I render to the Lord for all his benefits As if he should say Oh that I knew and could satisfie my selfe herein And where this affection and desire is can it otherwise be but that by all good opportunities there should be an expressing and
doeth not see what and how great a benefit and priuiledge it is to all that haue fallen into any grieuous crime at least as they count it and so haue their faith weakened and their comfort appalled For to a man in that case nothing is more comfortable as by the words of Elihu in the booke of Iob most liuely appeareth saying When a man shall be so wrought vpon by the word of God that for feare and inward anguish he turne away from his owne worke that is his old sinfull life and refuse his meat which was wont to be most pleasant vnto him and sorrow take hold on him vpon his bed c if then there be a messenger of God one that can tell him Gods minde who shall be as one of a thousand vnto him who can certifie him of the fauour of God that he shall not be forsaken of him behold that man is reuiued and he is comforted as in the daies of his youth c. And euery godly preacher hath experience of the same both how many heauie hearted Christians are raised out of their falles with much comfort and how intolerable an estate it were for them to beare if they had not good assurance from God about that matter But this which I say is wisely and warily to be heard receiued I confesse that is to say that euen as it is with all thankfulnesse to be hearkned vnto of the afflicted in minde and such as mourne in Sion so likewise that in no wise it be vsed as an occasion to imbolden any to sinne or to gather hardnesse of heart in them that either they dare goe forward more readily to that sinne which they delight in because they heare there is hope of forgiuenesse to such as haue runne from God or seeke pardon the more sleightly and houerly because God receiueth such sinners to mercy Both which respects because they are woorthy to be regarded alwaies in this case and for that an example very fit for this purpose commeth to my remembrance I will in as few words as I can lay foorth the same In the booke of Ezra the priest we read that he and many of the people of the captiuitie after their returne home cast themselues downe before the house of the Lord praying and confessing their sinnes with teares in aboundance and chiefly this sinne in that they had taken to themselues wiues of strangers which was a grieuous breach of the Lords commandement Zechania the sonne of Iehiel a godly man answered and said vnto Ezra It is true we haue committed a most heinous and wilfull offence in ioining our selues to strangers and marying wiues out of them but yet that we cast not our selues into deadly despaire as such a transgression of Gods law might easily carie vs vnto let vs know that there is hope in Israel concerning this thing Wherein these two points I obserue principally among many others that as neither Ezra who had great knowledge in the law of God nor Zechania nor the people which feared God durst in such an offence lightly and in a loose manner heale vp their breach of Gods commandement although they knew that there was hope to be conceiued of pardon but saw cause to humble themselues before God in the confession of their sinne and praied for the remission of it with teares and made a firme couenant to put away their strange wiues so yet when they sought vnto God after this holy and hearty manner then did they incourage one another to looke for mercy and forgiuenesse saying There is hope And so it ought to be with all gods children that when they haue beene supplanted by the deuill for all their care and watchfulnesse then ought they to imbrace this sweet remedy and flie vnto it as to an anchor That God will be intreated of them and so with more thankfulnesse and humblenesse to walke forward If any therefore abuse this liberty to licentiousnesse and boldnesse in sinning they shall beare their punishment and let them be sure that their sinne will finde them out Thus we hauing seene cleerely and plainly the minde and will of God about this matter let vs now consider the greatnes of this libertie and benefit that the poore seruants of God who haue beene much distressed for want of the certeine knowledge of it may be helped and relieued I remember the daies and times as I stil see oft the experience of it wherein this glad tidings would of heauie and afflicted consciences haue beene esteemed aboue gold if it could haue beene fitly applied to their disease and if they standing in need of it might haue beene assured from God of such welfare I remember I say such times and the desire of many therein who yet for want of that haue lien languishing and beene filled with heauinesse for that they could not be raised vp and comforted some whole weeks and moneths some others for not receiuing this message in due time haue bene cast for many yeeres into such distrust of Gods fauour that it hath beene a matter of great difficultie to recouer them at the length And who doubteth but that it was the estate of the people of Israel and of many generations of them and namely at Bochim when they repented by the message of the angell and also an other generation after them whom Samuel after long straying from God brought home and of some of the Churches in the Reuelation as namely the church of Ephesus that they stood in need of this incouragement who hauing left their olde first loue although good things were still found in them were tolde by the Apostle Iohn from the Lord that they were so farre gone that it was time for them to consider with themselues from whence they were fallen and to renounce their sinnes and repent of them and do their former works that so they might againe receiue sound comfort whose sore when it should haue come to be felt would haue turned to another maner of vexation both longer continuing and more deeply pinching them if by this counsell from God it had not beene preuented And such as in this age are subiect to the same weaknesse as hauing sometime laied holde on Gods fauour and mercie yet haue afterward fallen into some sinne against their conscience must holde this for a singular priuiledge that the Lord is willing to receiue them againe to passe by their sinne and that they by the way that he hath taught them should rise vp to comfort This doctrine where it is receiued honoureth God highly and causeth many thanks to be giuen to him for that poore sinners see him so ready to forgiue them and that so often and so many and great offences as they themselues durst not looke for or thinke that he would and in that many who bare shew that they are troubled for their sinnes sometime doe not magnifie God for this trueth