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A96888 A dialogue, arguing that arch-bishops, bishops, curates, neuters, are to be cut-off by the law of God; therefore all these, with their service, are to be castout by the law of the land. Notwithstanding, the world pleads for their own, why some bishops should be spared; the government maintained; the name had in honour still; but the word of God is cleare against all this, for the casting-of-all-forth. The great question is, which way of government now? For two wayes are contended for, The Presbyteriall and Independent: something is said to both these wayes: but we have a sure word for it, that these two wayes are but in shew two, and will assuredly meet in one. Neuters are shewen openly here, and the curse of God upon them. Presented to the Assembly of Divines. Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675. 1644 (1644) Wing W3486A; Thomason E34_10; ESTC R22862 54,646 56

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had they but a common light and never heard of the Lord Jesus Christ not a word I say not sayes he Where shall the wicked appeare But where shall the Gospellers appeare Who have been lifted-up to heaven by the means of grace yet were their conversation low and earth-ward how low will their fall be A consideration if put home to every mans heart will throw fire and brimstone in thither for present That he may escape it for the time to come and for ever Let us consider What good things wee have how wee have improoued them not what wee want and would have but how wanting wee are to what wee have I have don Prefacing Wee must heare now what God sayes and would have don Then wee will heare what man can say God will be heard first A DIALOGVE ARGVING That Arch-Bishops Bishops Curates Neuters All these are to be cut off by the Law of GOD therefore to be cast-out by the Law of the Land THey that have don the same abominations for the committing whereof their fathers and brethren in former ages have been by the law of God cut off from the earth These ought by the law of man to be Cast-out of the Land The Arch-bishops and Bishops have committed these abominations for which others in ancient times have suffered death Therefore these ought to be throwne-out of the Land by the Law of the Land A. I deny that the Bishops have committed such abominations B. They have committed the same abomination I will instance in particulars against the Day of Gods worship which one man having committed was by the command of God cut off from the earth Numb 15 35 A. I am not so slenderly read but I know whom you mean by that one man him that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath and was by the command of God put to death for so doing But you can never prove that the Arch-bishops and Bishops gathered sticks upon the Lords day neither their graces nor their Lordships would stoop so low I am confident of that And as confident I am that they did not commit the same Abomination B. Your confidence will deceive you and you must forsake it The Bishops have committed the same abomination with an higher hand and a more open face I say the same in your sense First 1 They commanded Rushes to be gathered against the Lords day And when the people should be preparing themselves to their solemne addresse before the Lord they were commanded to bestrew the Chappell with Rushes A service not worth a rush but a notorious dis-service to the Church and scorne to the Lord of the day But the Bishops would shew their power 2 The same in your sense and understanding The Bishops commanded the people to gather flowers therewith to plat a garland and to set it upon a May-pole To the intent the people might upon the Lords day dance about it with more chearfulnesse O yee heavens be ashonished at this Never the like dishonour to the Lord Christ since their forefathers platted a crown of Thornes for his head But I go on 3 The same in our sense and true construction For you must not conceive that the man was stoned for gathering sticks there was more in it then a bare action there was a malignancy in it As his need might have required he might have gathered sticks and kindled them upon the Sabbath day too and have given a good account for so doing As a more toylesome work might have been don and is don upon the Lords day then is strewing of Rushes But there must be a command for doing it if not from GODS mouth yet from mans necessitie that has a command If you observe the Context this one man did presumptuously he needed a fire no more then others of his brethren yet he would presume above all he would try the Patience of the Lord and in so doing he reproached the Lord sayes the Text his action was presumptuous a reproaching Ver. 30. of the Lord. The Arch-bishops and Bishops did the same abomination The same They did more presumptuously They did reproach the Lord never any from the beginning of the world to that day did so presumptuously as they did never did any of the Heathen so reproach their gods which yet were no gods as these have reproached the God of gods and Lord of Lords and so have been an inlet to that fire which now rageth in the Land They have been a means I would take no man off from communing with his owne heart and enquiring how willing he was to have it so They have been a means to make our Land a Tabherah Because of the fire of the Lord amongst us a Numb 11. 3. I demand then Is the Law of the LORD cleare for the cutting-off these men A. Yes those that have committed that abomination but all the Bishops have not don so B. You shall have free libertie to speake-out and what you have to say for them anon This is to our purpose now That the Law was clea●e for the cutting off that one man muoh more for the cutting off these men who were guides unto others had a clearer light than he had did more presumptuously more reproached the Lord than he did The clearer the light the clearer the Judgement And the clearer God● Law is against them for the cutting of them off the clearer the Law of the Land is against them for the casting of them forth A. But you have charged this upon the King B. Not I The King of Kings has charged this blaspemy has laid this burden upon the Kings shoulders yet so as it is not a graine the lighter upon the Bishops shoulders It is charged upon the King decreing that blasphemous decree upon the Bishops prescribing the same Upon the King as chiefe Author Upon the Bishops as Instruments Woe Isa 10. 1. Vae auctoribus maleficiorum tum etiam administris Wo to the Authors of wicked decrees and to the Ministers executing the same Isa 10. 1● Trem. Isa 10. 3. Jer. 13. 1● Act. 9. 26. unto both sayes the LORD And what will you doe in the day of visitation and in the day of desolation to whom will they flee for helpe They have defiled their Sanctuary polluted their Lords day reproached the LORD of the Day Say unto the King and to his Bishops Humble your selves sit downe for your principalities shall come downe even the Crowne of your glory And untill the King chiefe in the trespasse shall say so much to his own soule and not onely say it but be indeed and in truth humbled for it giving cleare demonstrations thereof in all the peoples sight till he sayes so and does so humble himselfe his good people will be as jealous of him as afraid of him joyning with his Parliament as the Disciples were of Paul when he would joyne himselfe with them They were all afraid of him and beleeved not that he was a Disciple This
is he said they who compelled the people to blaspheme and persecuted the Saints to strange Cities Therefore Pauls repentance was as fully declared as his sin was and then he was trusted and not before I proceed to a second Argument II Argument The Bishops have blasphemed c. A. You have said enough if you can prove that B. I prove it first They said they are Bishops when they were not for they did nothing as became Bishops A. Is it blasphemy to say Wee are what indeed wee are not B. Yes in Gods account and He can best judge of Blasphemy I know sayes the Spirit the blasphemy of them who say they are Jewes and they Rev. 2. 9. are not What was their blasphemy Surely wee know no other but this They said they were what they were not That was their blasphemy And it is of high consideration of the same concernment to us Christians to teach us To be what wee say wee are A. The Bishops said they are Bishops and they are Bishops 〈◊〉 see them to be so B. Yes if lawne sleeves and an outward dresse or garb can give in sufficient evidence That they are what they say they are But let us according to the Charge speake as the Oracles of GOD and deliver forth clearly what they say and what wee see It is true the Lord Christ who sees the heart and knowes the secrets therein does not judge after the sight of the eye nor reprove after the hearing of the eare But wee poore Isa 11. 4. men who see no more but the out-side wee must take leave to judge after the sight of the eyes and reprove for wee have no other means after the hearing of our ears Wee professe heartily wee marke not so much what men say as what they doe Wee care not what they say they are but what wee see they are And so wee will compare what they say they are and what wee see they are and so leave it to others thereby to give Righteous Judgement They say they are from heaven wee see they are from Rome They say they are Fathers wee see they have no naturall affection at all bloudy Fathers have they been bloudy Fathers They say they are spirituall wee see they are altogether carnall They say they are Lords wee see they are slaves to their lusts to their honours to men Time-servers Men-pleasers They say they are ovex-seers wee see they over-see nothing but their Rents and Revennewes which was the complaint long agoe b See History of the Councell of Trent Book 2. Pag. 252. and 216. Non magis de pascendagrege Cogitant qua sutor de orando Calvin Instit 4. Chap. 5. Sect. 12 13 Jer. 23. 13 14. Ezek. 22. 26. Zach. 11. 17. They say they are men of GOD wee see they are men of the world They say they stand for Christ wee see they stand against Christ opposing Him in all His wayes They say they are Ministers of the Gospel wee see folly is in them and horrible things are committed by them They say they are Shep-heards wee see they are Idoll-Shepheards and the sword is upon their right eye and arme their Arme is cleane dried-up and their right eye is utterly darkened This wee see that they are not what they say they are Their mouth was yet wider open to utter blasphemies for 2. They said they were Bishops by divine Right I mean it not in their sense now nor as it was commonly understood though that was an high presumption this was more They said they were Bishops and would have made themselves so by the same right whereby the Lord Christ blessed for ever was made a Priest for ever By the same right would they have made themselves Arch-bishops Bishops Deans Arch-Deacons c. for ever Marke wee whether it was not just so To be established by an Oath was a peculiar Instalment to our High Priest the great Bishop of our soules He was made with an Oath Other Priests without an Oath c Heb. 7. 20 21. But so they thought to establish themselves that their thr●● might endure for ever for unto an immutable thing wherein it was impossible they thought to be mistaken they had fixed the Anchor of their hope both sure and stedfast What doe you thinke of this A. I thinke it to be a greater blasphemy than the other B. It is hard to make a comparison who blasphemes most he that blasphemes in words or he that blasphemes in deed But you thinke this to be a great blasphemy A. Yes B. Surely you cannot thinke lesse for here they said more presumptuously than that proud King did Wee will exalt our Throne above Isa 14. 13 14. the Sta●res of GOD wee will ascend above the height of the Clouds wee will be like the most High will was all their reason And now see what the LORD has don for it is the worke of His hands He has brought them downe even to the sides of the pit I argue from hence the lawfulnesse of the eradicating or rooting-out this abominable roote the Hierarchy with its branches by the same Argument which they used for the rooting themselves-in And we are sure that there is strength enough in the Argument if the highest presumption and most horrid blasphemy can give strength unto it for all this is in it Hitherto wee have seene the Law and Hand of the LORD against these men for the Abomination committed against the LORDS day 2. For their presumptuons sayings and blasphemous doings against the LORD Himselfe Wee proceed now to another Argument for the Casting of them forth because of their force and fraud against the people of GOD the Clergie indeed the lot of His Inheritance Thus I argue Arg. III They that did call the people to the Sacrifices of strange gods They that did seeke to entice and turne-away the servants of GOD from serving so good a Master were by GODS command to be hanged-up Num. 25. 4. before the LORD The Bishops have spoken all that they could speake and have don all that they could doe whereby to entice and Deut. 13. 1. thrust-away the people of God from the service of God to serve abominable Idolls the worke of mens hands Therefore by mans law these are to be Cast-out What will you deny here A. This That the Bishops have don as you have said sought to entice the people of God secretly by fraud or by force to thrust his people away from the service of their God All this I deny B. All this you deny It is quickly said but you stand charged to consider what you deny least you contradict the evidence and verdict which all your senses give-in unto you touching this matter I shall call them-in now to give witnesse and I charge you before the Living God answer now the truth and the whole truth as your senses have made report unto you first B. What heare you from their Pulpits A. I
A DIALOGUE ARGVING That Arch-Bishops Bishops Curates Neuters are to be cut-off by the Law of GOD Therefore all these with their Service are to be cast-out by The Law of the Land Notwithstanding The world pleads for their own why some Bishops should be spared The Government maintained The name had in honour still But the word of God is cleare against all this for the casting-of-all-forth The great Question is which way of Government now For two wayes are contended for The Presbyteriall and Independent Something is said to both these wayes But we have a sure word for it That these two wayes are but in shew two and will assuredly meet in one Neuters are shewen openly here and the curse of GOD upon them Presented to the Assembly of DIVINES And the Lord hath given a Commandement concerning thee That no more of Thy name shall be sowen I will make thy grave for thou art vile N●h 1. 14 Sing unto the LORD for He has don excellent things This is knowne in all the earth Isa 12. 5. Vpon mount Zion shall be deliverance and there shall be holinesse Obad. 17. They have made themselves vile cast them out of My sight and let them goe forth 1 Sam. 3 13. Jer 15. 1. 〈…〉 that thou stoodst on the other side A looker-on the day of thy brother even thou wast one of them Obad. 11. LONDON Printed by T. P. and M. S. in Gold-Smiths-Alley 1644. TO THE EXCELLENT IN THE LAND Dr. VVILLIAM TWISSE Master of the ASSEMBLY And to the DIVINES there VVith the most highly honoured and dearly beloved The Commissioners for the Church of SCOTLAND AN unknowne person and desires so to be the meanest of many Thousands presents these papers to your hands which he call a Booke having he doubts not Truth and reason for its Parrons * Libri hoc nomine dignandi in veritatis tantum et rationis clientelam se dare debent Ver. de Aug. l 1. Therefore he does not doubt but yee will be its Patrons too yee will countenance these where-ever you find them though amidst some refuse bearing GODS Image and superscription For the man you will weigh him with his full allowance he needs all that and he looks for no more So far as he dares trust a great Deceiver he dares say That he has no other end in this but the glory of GOD and good of his brother That he may be informed if ignorant confirmed if weake convinced if froward and obstinate That is the White he levells at There are Three maine Exceptions 1 Against the Title It is a Dialogue 2 Against the Author A knowne enemy to Bishops sayes Here-say a most notorious liar 3 Against the wayes of worship now For some say There be two I shall endeavour to give cleare satisfaction to all this in the next Pages I cease here to interrupt you any farther so fixed upon your worke Earnestly contending for the faith and striving together each with other and for other in your prayers Now the good will of Him That now dwells in the Bush dwell in your Assembly upon that glory let That defence be and in your houses To supply your absence and all needs there In your severall Congregations and be a small Sanctuary there In your hearts and be Lord and King there Amen The GOD of Truth lead you into all Truth Amen The Lord of Peace Himselfe give you peace alwayes by all meanes That no occasion be given to the Adversary to speake reproachfully Amen The LORD be with you all Amen Take you by the hand keepe you in His way hold you fast to it for the Churches good and your owne good everlasting Amen and Amen By way of Preface to all that love Truth and Peace THat is To all over the Christian world for all love Peace No There is a generation of men That shall leave their names to posteritie for a curse who love Death set themselves in Battle Aray against the Truth and are pretenders to peace no more they hate it in their hearts I doe not feare to point-out these men and to tell who they are They who stand-up for Arch-bishops and Lord-Bishops I call them by that common name though Prelate seemes a more proper name They will maintaine the Government by Bishops and their service in full force and vertue as it followes in our Briefes Notwithstanding that there is all law and reason against it And which is above all Reason though the LORD CHRIT has taken to Himselfe power in all the peoples sight bringing these men downe even to the sides of the pitt whence they shall not returne till they rise to Judgement The common people lookers on now and observing the Princes and Nobles of the world in this eager contention betting with the Divell and staking downe Earldomes and Lordships and the crowne of their glory cannot be perswaded in their hearts That this betting and staking is to winne a very triste to gaine a thing of nought Therefore having such examples before them They stand-up for Bishops also for their Government and service And some of ●hem not common men amongst the commons give their reason why they would have Bishops neither their Government nor their service abolished Because Their No wise Reason from so wise-men forefathers were born dyed under the Bishops Government served God after the Bishops manner and prescribed formes of worship and why should they yeeld to alterations or subscribe their names to a Covenant touching that matter For these mens sakes whom I tender as brethren All made of the same bloud have all the like precious soules bought with the same price professors of the same faith called all by the same name seeme to rejoyce under the same hope looke to inherit the same kingdome for their sakes I have taken this paines To shew them that will not shut their eyes the cleare will and law of God touching the fore-mentioned The throwing downe of the Bishops I carry it no higher the rooting-out of their Government The casting-out of their service The abolishing of their name There be three maine exceptions now as was said I le tell what they are and remove them as I can 1. It is a Dialogue and therein I dispute and argue the case with my selfe and so wise I am I will put no other arguments to my selfe but what I can tell my selfe how to answer And so I must needs overcome as the Boy must winne the game that playes with himselfe To this I make answer first 1 I thought A continued discourse not so proper as a Dialogue that the phancie might have more libertie to worke upon the understanding 2 I can say truly That this is no fained disputation but truly and really acted onely now enlarged with such Objections and Answers which upon due considerations I could imagine might be made for the upholding of the Bishops the continuance of their Government or the name I say againe and
slave to his Masters lusts and his own The Priest hastened his Masters destruction for he did according 2 Kings 16. 16. to all that King A●az Commanded I have read the Records What is the result from thence You must tell us for from the premisses you have drawne the Conclu●ion I pray you what is it A. That I● it be now as in ancient dayes it has been then the Bishop is the Witch the Sorcerer he is the cun●ing Artist he turnes all up-side downe he has turned the King and people from the faith B. There is no new thing under the Sun What was now is like Priests like people Brutish Priests brutish people And now sith you have answered mee so clearely to this I le aske you no more questions I will not aske you whether the Bishops endeavoured onely To defile the house of GOD and the services there Not whether they set-up their Thresholds by Gods Thresholds * Ezech. 43. 8. Adhibendo traditiones suas ad praecepta mea Jun. Not whether they thrust GOD out of His House and His servants out of their houses and Gods House also Not whether they have thrust His servants into corners and out of the Land Not whether they have used Gods precious ones villanously All this is as cleare to all the Christian world as is the noone day And indeed you have yeelded to all this when you granted what you could not deny That the Bishops set-up Altars and made gods Will the GOD of gods endure this To be mated in His owne house with gods of mans owne making Surely surely This is enough to cause the LORD to measure us as He did Judah and Israel or to relate unto Times nearer hand to streteh over this Land also the line of Germany and the Plummet of the Palatinate-house To cause the Land to be wiped 2 King 21. 13. as a man wipeth a dish wiping it and turning it upside-downe Enough and enough so much as a man can doe and was in his power To make all the Inhabitants of the Land Papists and Atheists all Setting-up Altars and making of gods has don all this O wonderfull That all this has been don here before the face of His Holinesse and yet He has spared He has not meated out unto us as unto other Lands He has not wiped the Land yet as a maid wipeth a dish He has not made our Land Hormah * Numb 21. 3. utter Destruction or Anathema a curse Not yet Though these abominations are found here And yet behold ● greater Abomination than has been shewen hitherto which I shall not declare here A. I pray you let us heare all declare what you can declare shew me ●●d the world that other Abomination B. You must spare mee and your selfe that trouble Indeed I can say nothing touching the Bishops example that is the abomination my words cannot reach unto it how provoaking how defiling how corrupting how spreading No leprosie so infecting so destroying This how cannot be expressed A Bishops Example A Bishop and set-up Altars A Bishop and make gods Ah LORD how many thousand thousand soules has a Bishops example Destroyed He has by his abominable Doctrines as wee heard he has thrust away King and people from the worship of their GOD By his example he has commanded a Persuadet lingua jubet vita Athan. forced b Gal. 2. 14 Cogi eos dicit qui exemp●o Petri Judaizabant Jun. compelled King and people to serve other gods I can say nothing touching this Abomination I confesse it is hard to forbeare but I doe forbeare for your sake That you may now take the more scope and libertie to say what you have to say for Arch-bishops and Bishops Their government their office their Name Come gird up your loynes and speake like a man What say you A. Truly I have much to say yet nothing at all against that you have spoken from the word of God and Judgement from His mouth upon the Bishops I can yeeld unto your hearts desire That our two Arch-bishops ought to be thrust-out Nay more That those two I ever except a third The Primate of Ireland ought to be hanged-up by the necks for wee know what one has don and it is as legible what the other does he fights stoutly for the Pope his Lord I could yeeld you-up some of the Bishops too to the Justice of the Law to be hanged by the neck or rosted in the fire I could yeeld you up our Wren c. But to tell you what grieveth mee I cannot endure to heare all the Bishops jumbled together like Chest-men in a bagg honest men and together Two Metropolitan Bishops one Primate together Great men and mean men together vile men and precious men together you have made no distinction I professe unto you you have so confounded the persons that I cannot finde out the Primate of Ireland nor difference him from another Bishop now he is in Oxford where all the Bishops are or where all their hearts are You have made such a mingle-mangle one with another that I cannot single-out Bishop Wren that vile man from Bishop Hall that precious man You have as I said at first jumbled them together like Chest-men in a bagg You should have considered how soundly some of them have preached but some some not at all very few oftener than once a yeare and then not soundly neither what good bookes they have written And touching the Ceremonies how cleare they are for the innocency of the same All this you should have considered and not have jumbled them all together Indeed I am grieved that you cannot distinguish better B. Truly I would grieve no honest man and I hope to cleare my words so unto you That they shall be no griefe to your heart You say I have jumbled the Bishops all together like Chest-men in a bagge I le answer you to that first and grant so I have done and purposely I have done it for mightie reason for so they jumbled the dayes of the weeke the seventh Day with the six dayes they made no difference no distinction at all Destinction No They marred their Lords day more than any Day I grant you they have don some good workes So did Alexander the Great greater workes than they But Alexander killed his deare friend Calisthenes Him who dearly loved Alexander and the King both and ever after that when it was alledged for the honour of Alexander That he had don such and such great things It was checked with this He did so indeed but he killed his true and honest friend Calisthenes he killed him And that darkened all his glory to his dying day So when it is said The Bishops some few of them have written good bookes Yes but they have polluted the Lords Day which if there were no more is enough to stain their glory while the world stands But there is more Have they the best of them
answered their names have they magnified their office have they given attendance to 1 Tim. 4. 1● Ezek. 22. 30. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 reading to exhortation to doctrine or when The LORD sought for a man amongst them I say a man * to speake for Him was there a man amongst them the Bishops all that did appeare They should have taken His people by the hand now in this day of their trouble doe they A man indeed that has the fire of zeal in him will stand in the breach till hee has hedged-up the hedge doe it I say againe doe they doe it or doe they take the people of GOD by their throats GOD is witnesse even GOD is witnesse He is witnesse also What blasphemies they have heard belched-out from the Pulpit and they were silent the while and afterwards What hard words have they heard in the Court pointed out against His hidd●n ones which they reproved not Reproved not encouraged rather God knowes what ungodly deeds they have seene and how the best of the Bishops have strengthened the hand of the wicked doing violence to the godly GOD knows all this He knowes even the Holy One who trieth the reines and searcheth the hearts understanddeth the thoughts long before He knowes That the best of them have dealt most corruptly in His matters most treacherously with His people in the Day of visitation most wickedly in the Covenant The best of them is a briar Mich. 7. 4. Th● most upright is sharper than a thorne-hedge The day of Thy Watchmen and Thy visitation cometh now shall be their p●rplexitie Amen A. I cannot joyne with you You should have pulled out the Primate hence and Bishop Hall before you had said Amen Why man The LORD bids you put a difference betwixt the good and the bad the precious and the vile And when the LORD visits a people in wrath Psal 4. 4. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Exo. 8. 22 B. 9. 4. 11. 17. Aug. de civit Dei l. 1. cap. 9. See Cure of feares pag. 33. and indignation then He sets a marke He makes a seperation H● marvellously seperateth a B. He do●● indeed then He sets apart then He seperates indeed Then He sets a marke a legible marke a proper and peculiar marke upon His chosen ones But not visible to a common eye as it was in the 4. Psalme and other places No good and bad the precious and the vile are carried away with the same floud of GODS wrath there is no distinction made to your outward eye for the reasons intimated before more fully set downe in that notable Chapter pointed to in the margin b But because I finde your spirit grieved I le open the sacred Records and reade what wee finde there This That Num. 25. 3. Israel joyned himselfe unto Baal-Peor an abominable Idoll and the anger of The LORD was kindled against Israel What was Israels Idolatry Primari●s populi Iun. to their Governors and Chief-taines the Heads of Israel c Yes to them and they must suffer for it What! The people joyned to Baal-Peor and the Heads of the people lookers-on They must be hanged up all for that It is the Charge of the LORD Take all the heads of the people and hang them up All the heads you will observe that All. Doubtlesse some heads did not contrive for the setting up or serving that shame d Hos 9. ●0 Nay doubtlesse some heads there thought the setting up that shame and serving before it To be as abominable as any heads amongst us judged the Declaration for sports that shame to be even so abominable Nay doubtlesse could they have maintained their honours and head-ships amongst and over the people they would have withstood that abominable service the peoples joyning to Baal-Peor that shame But not one not one man was found that would doe as Phineas did not a man that would show his head appearing for GOD and against that shame Therefore Take all the heads and hang them up Where Before The LORD before whose glorious eye they committed that abomination And because not one of these men would shew their heads would appeare for their Lord hang them up before the Sun put them to shame make them a publike example shew them openly make them a spectacle set their heads before that Sun which they made an Idoll that all may point at them with the finger and say These are they who did slinke away who hid their heads would not appeare when time was for their Great Lord and Master in heaven Now they doe appeare Now they are showen openly before the Sun It must be so don it ought to be so don for GOD has said it Take all the HEADS of the people and hang them-up before the LORD against the Sun that the feirce anger of the Numb 25. 4. LORD may be turned away from Israel Looke you well upon it consider it well and you must conclude from hence That all the Bishops the chiefe the Primate and Metropolitan the great men and mean men all must be thrust downe all cast-out I le carry it no higher than to a thrusting downe a casting-out Hang them-up before the LORD and against the Sun That I leave to the Judges as it followes* But if you Vers 5. 6. will not yeeld so farr for the Thrusting all the Bishops downe and casting them all out Then I must say you are the man who will not be satisfied from reason or Scripture nor from the mouth and command of GOD. A. I am satisfied I yeeld them up all patiently to the Justice of the Law And I say now Currat lex siat justicia ruat mundus Let the Law have its course let Justice be don though the earth shake and the kingdomes be moved yea shattered to pieces let Justice be done Amen But B. What another But yet and so out of place you are not satisfied I perceive touching this All. A. Yes that I am content That all these Arch-bishops they are but two be thrust out And all these Bishops every man Take them even All the heads and c. B. Speak out man the terror of an Arch-bishop or a Lord cannot make you afraid now GOD will be terrible to them speake out And hang them-up before the Sun that followes A. True But I was speaking for them yet indeed I am ashamed but I consider All your Allegations are but vitia personarum these may be thrust away or hanged-up before the Sun and others thrust into their places for indeed Arch-biships are venerable for their Antiquitie B. Ah Lord What a word is that The same word will serve to establish errour very ancient Truth its opposite but a few hou●es before it Venerable for Antiquitie You may say as much for the Devill too that old Serpent Venerable for Antiquitie So is Sunday and Monday and so through the whole weeke and Saints dayes as we fooles miscall them anciently called by