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A79524 Catholike history, collected and gathered out of Scripture, councels, ancient Fathers, and modern authentick writers, both ecclesiastical and civil; for the satisfaction of such as doubt, and the confirmation of such as believe, the Reformed Church of England. Occasioned by a book written by Dr. Thomas Vane, intituled, The lost sheep returned home. / By Edward Chisenhale, Esquire. Chisenhale, Edward, d. 1654. 1653 (1653) Wing C3899; Thomason E1273_1; ESTC R210487 201,728 571

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by which he would have her distinguished to be a true Church to become Brands and Stigmatizings of her errors and falling from the Primitive Church 3. Another reason the Doctor enforces is this that there are many words in peoples Languages which are hard to be understood and therefore they may as well have all in Latine for that the common people do not understand every word they speak This seems to me a very strange Argument whilst he thus strives to clear this point he doth more condemn it or obscure the truth for this is ignotum per ignotius because the common people do not understand all the words of their Language therefore they shall understand none at all he may perchance perswade some fool that is blind of the one eye to put out the other to make them both alike but he must bring stronger reasons and prove himself a better Scholar else it will be hard for him to turn our English into Latine and make the Lyturgie of other Churches to speak the Romane tongue When Vitalianus decreed the Latine service Greek was more generally known then the Latine insomuch that in several parts of Italy the Latine was not spoken as in Calabria the Greek was spoken in Itruria the Tuscan in Apulia the Mesapian tongue the Latine being onely the proper language of the territories of Latium in which Rome is situate neither was any thing generall wrote but in the Greek tongue so that if it was convenient to have the Lyturgie in one tongue universally the alteration from the Greek into Latine was at first unlawful in respect of the narrowness of the language in those daies it being done onely out of ostentation and for the glory of the Romane See to make others receive the Latine Lyturgie after she had surreptitiously acquired the title of Universality 4. Whereas the Doctor alledges If the Lyturgie should be in distinct proper languages of several people whether could the Church of Rome understand the errors therein nor they be sure there were none in it This argues Romes intolerable arrogancy as if none could be Christians which had not received the faith from her whenas the Apostles were sent to all Nations and preached the Gospel in their own languages and having received the faith by Apostolical plantation it is equally just with them to correct Rome as she to correct them both being herein bound to the Discipline of a general Councel sending thither some one or other which shall in some general language there make known their case Besides this argument of the Doctors has given Rome a most deadly blow for if Rome be the onely Catholick Church and her Bishop have all Apostolical power devolved upon her own head certainly she is either enabled to teach all Nations or else it will follow that those people which have not yet received the faith must still remain in darkness because Rome wants the gift of interpretation of tongues and knows not how to make them understand the Gospel of Jesus and for that faith comes by hearing not by dumb shewes unless Rome be able to make such people understand service and prayer they will think her Priests are mad It is not his praising God with an understanding heart that can edifie them though the Priest should praise the Lord upon the Harp they will but think as the Negroes did when they first heard Bag-pipes that they were living creatures and ascribe Deity to them and so instead of preaching Jesus or offering praise to him they would make the people commit Idolatry if the Priest knew not how to perswade them of their errors much less to make them sensible of the Church of Rome's prescribed rules and so by this means the Doctor has confessed the people to want Brains correspondent to his universal head And whereas the Doctor alledges The difference of languages that all Languages are not of equal extent and therefore incongruities would arise Besides sayes he the inconvenience of having it in Latine is but in part and that to the ignorant I conceive these reasons make rather against it then otherwise It is true all Languages are not of the same latitude in some Languages one word comprehending several word in another language God has given to every Nation several gifts of tongues Reason taught men to reduce out of confused and indictinct sounds articulate sillables and peculiar words to signifie their own meaning and time and Art hath perfected those beginnings so that now every Nation abounds in its own language the languages of the Nations being at first made different according to the different imaginations of several people at the first composing of such languages but yet nothing that is imaginable but they have or can give a name whereby to represent to their senses the nature of the thing or if they already have a name for any thing and do not know the reason of that denomination yet they rest satisfied with the articulate sound of the words which brings unto their mind the thing intended and meant Now because of those several Nations and people which at first invented several different languages insomuch that in the language of one Country one word may comprehend a parephrasis of another that therefore such a Countries language is too short it must not be imagined For though to strangers it seem imperfect yet amongst themselves it is sufficiently to describe the thing intended wherefore I should think that understanding the Doctors objection it were fit that every Nation had a Lyturgie in its own proper language it perchance may seem to some to breed incongruities but indeed it doth not it denotes the difference of languages in respect of latitude or extent but it retains a royal and concuring sense and understanding of the thing presented to their fancy without which the people must for ever remain in darkness and lockt up in ignorance which was not Gods will he commanded his Apostles to teach all Nations and sent them especially to the lost sheep of the house of Israel Matth. 10. God is light and Jesus is the tender day-spring from on high which hath visited us to give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death and to guide our feet in the way of peace Wherefore for Rome to take away this light to let this inconvenience as the Doctor says to be upon the ignorant is not to discharge the office of Peter and Paul who were sent out to bring into light them that sit in darkness Matth. 4. To them that sate in darkness is light risen up Jesus came into the world a light says S. John John 12.46 that whosoever believeth in him should not abide in darkness Whether Jewes or Gentiles we are one sheep under one Shepherd Christ Jesus John 10.16 Wherefore for the Doctor to extenuate this error of Rome to say that the inconvenience is onely to the ignorant is to me a strange Divinity for The whole
CATHOLIKE HISTORY Collected and gathered out of Scripture Councels Ancient Fathers and modern Authentick Writers both Ecclesiastical and Civil for the satisfaction of such as doubt and the confirmation of such as believe the Reformed Church of ENGLAND Occasioned by a Book written by Dr. Thomas Vane INTITULED The Lost sheep returned home By Edward Chisenhale Esquire Chrysost in Matth. Hom. 30. Christianus si malus evaserit pejor fit quam suisset Gentilis 2 Pet. 2.21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness then after they have known it to turn from the holy commandment given unto them London Printed by J.C. for Nath-Brooks at the signe of the Angel in Cornhil 1653. To the Right Reverend The LEGAL CLERGY OF The Reformed Protestant Church OF ENGLAND The Author Wishes many dayes of consolation here and eternal joy in the Holy Ghost THe Israelites lamented after the Lord when the Ark was removed and it pittyed the children of Sion to see her stones in the dust and how can any sing a song of the Lord in a strange Land For my own part many have been the troubles of my spirit Right Reverend for the desolations and miseries that have of late befallen our English Church and amongst the rest this has not been the least affliction of my soul to see her like Sennacherib murdered of her own sons to see her laid desolate whilst her enemies cry There there so would we have it When Ierusalem was destroyed she became an habitation unto strangers and our English Sion being now laid waste a Babylonish Tower of Rome would fain be built by the Enemy upon our holy Hill But that which most afflicted me was to see the sons of our Sion's Tower being compleatly furnished out of her spiritual Magazine and being harnessed and carrying bowes to resist the Darts of Satan should like the children of Ephraim turn their backs in the day of battel amongst whom I finde Doctor Vane the Author of a Book intituled The lost sheep returned home to be the Ring leader and chief of the Apostate-Tribe who had no fooner escaped out of our English sheep-fold but straightway he discovers the Muset thorow which he stole thinking thereby to decoy the rest of the flock into the Wilderness Now I seeing this injury done unto our English Vineyard though it was not proper to me to make up the fence did presume to lay these thorns in the breach whereby I might divert the Flock from straying after novelties and seeking after strange Pastours and in the interim blind the Wolves that they should not discover the breach that is made in our Pale Some I know will condemn me for presuming to treat upon this subject being a Theam too high for my reach and too sacred for my calling and with Socrates will condemn Lysia's Oration as not being suitable for him that was to pronounce it If there be any such amongst us I desire them to take notice That when the Temple was to be rebuilt all the people of Israel without exception contributed towards the work Ezra 11.5 6. The Priests and Levites and all the children of Israel c. and appointed the Levites to set forward the work Chap. 3.8 For my part I do not desire to transgress the bounds of a well-wishing Israelite I do not with Uzzah think to support the Ark with my own hand but humbly present to your judicious sense the sweet smelling flowers which grow in others Gardens and withal give your Reverendships a view of the wilde Thistles that bear no Figgs leaving it to your choyse to weed out the one and root up the other to whom the work more properly belongs For my part had I not perceived that the hearts of many of the Romish Faction were hardened through the deceitfulness of that Book insomuch that many began to triumph over the wounds therein given to our English Church as if the Protestant Religion were neckt in the sparring blowes And had I not been upbraided daily with the clamorous insultings of divers Papists that our Church wanting grounds of Replyes was the cause of her silence I had neither given them this occasion to censure me of presumption or busied my self either for their information or the Church of England's justification the one more properly belonging to anothers charge the other needless in respect the quarrel they have renewed is but with their own shadow all that ever they now pretend being heretofore fully answered the force of Divinity and weight of Reason adjudging the Garland to our English Church Nevertheless those answers being in several pieces and many not having the several Books and the Doctor having couched many subject matters in one Volume I thought it requisite that a Reply were composed in answer to his objections not the importance of his subject matter but the ease and convenience of the people to have him answered in one piece calling upon some to this work And I consulting with my self and imagining after so long a time of its not being answered that the more judicious amongst you might perhaps think it below them to make a reply to that which had already by others been most fully and plainly refuted answered did assume the boldness to re-capitulate this ensuing Treatise which together with my self I prostrate at your feet Amphion plaid ever best when he heard poor Ithoneus blow upon his Oaten Pipe and I could wish these rude Collections of mine might but serve as a Plain-song whereon your Reverendships might descant I did not intend that these loose pieces thrown into the Gap should stand for a sufficient Fence for our English Vine-yard onely I was something confident that they might be serviceable to you and be made use of in part as being Materials prepared for your use wherewith you might firmly repair the Breach which the Doctor has made which being set by your more Divine hands might become a growing Rampire against the Wolves and Foxes that would steal into your Vine-yard to pluck your Grapes and a standing Bulwark to keep her up maugre the engines of Hell and Satan I know it is you to whom the charge of the Plantation is committed it is you that are the proper Husband-men and know best how to fence her clusters you are the Levites must repair the breaches in our English Tabernacle I beseech you be not offended that I have taken notice of this Gap made in your Fence but rather let this my boldness finde pardon from your goodness and let this piece be acceptable to you as coming from one that in humility and love desires you to have an eye to this breach and if when you view the pieces I have thrown into the Gap you finde any that are proper for your Fence fix it down and throw the rest by or if in your judgements you think it need no further reparation yet vouchsafe to confirm it with your holy hand sith this bold
I have partly shewed was beyond their compass to take from them The Jesuites being beaten from this hold of the Keys they betake themselves to the treble Pasce which after Christs resurrection was said unto Peter Joh. 21. and would fain deduce this power from thence and so perswade the world that the Shepherds Crook is the Arms of all other Sees not of Rome the Bishop thereof being no ordinary Pastor but one that is known by more Nable bearing viz. Mars a Papal Mitre ensigned with a triple Crown and a Cross Pater Sol which in my opinion stands for no good denotement of Episcopal dignity in respect it doth not sympathize with the Successor of Peter and therefore serves rather to denote him sprung of another tribe But this by the way They would fain perswade the world The treble Pasce doth not extend to depose Kings that this power was given to Peter by vertue of the treble Pasce and by his being Bishop of Rome is devolved upon the Pope which I have already touched in the second Chapter That nothing doth belong to Rome any more then anyother See Apostolique by any power thereby given I will onely for better illustration of the present point add this viz. That Peter and Paul both submitted unto Domitius Nero a cruel Heathen and persecutour neither did they thunder out any Excommunication against him thereby denouncing him uncapable to rule which if they had thought to have been so certainly they would not have concealed it at their sufferings when they saw they must die and all hopes of their natural lives debarr'd from them If Peter suffered at Rome he left no such Testimony behind him nor Paul neither so that for the Pope to aspire to this prerogative upon Peters score is an injury to that blessed Apostle he having received rules from his Master Christ to the contrary of which both he and the rest of the Apostles were faithful witnesses in their sufferings The Papists beaten from all Scripture there being neither from thence nor any practice Apostolical the least warrant for this their presumptuous claim they then begin to strive with flesh blood and forsaking the rules of Christ and the exmples of Peter and the rest of the Apostles notwithstanding they would have Peter to be the Rock of the Catholike Church they quit the harbor adjoyning to that Rock and rove themselves upon the billows of strange contests And as when the Fish Meron perceiving a storm lays hold upon a chance pimple stone thinks to save it self from the tossing of the waves by sticking to that whenas both it and its stone are tumbled to and fro at the will of the sea so these men think by a new-found invention of their own to make good this their bold assertion against all opposition whenas any reasonable Christian may easily refute the same and if with reason they will not be driven off it dash their brains against Peters Rock Wherfore they blush not to affirm that God was not provident enough to his Church if he should leave her without a head to rule and govern her and as a widow to be despoiled by any Heather or persecuting Prince and therefore of necessity the Pope must have this power they are the principal wards in S. Peters Keys to depose Princes and excite subjects to oppose them if occasion be otherwise the Church should want the Pope her Head that Pillar to support and that Eye to direct her as Cardinal Allen in his Apology observes Allen for deposing of Princes This Doctrine of Allen is gross and Heathenish tending to Blasphemy and infidelity infidelity in Gods promise he having promised his Spirit to his Church to the end of the world and that the gates of hell shall not prevail against it she shall not be totally extirpated from off the earth till Shilo come though she may be invisible in this or that Country as I have shewed in the fifth Chapter and therefore Christ bids his Apostles suffer for righteousness sake for Sanguis martyrum shall be semen Ecclesiae Wherfore for Allen to affirme that the Pope must have this power or the Church will be lost argues his distrust in Gods promise to his Church And it likewise savours of Blasphemy to tye Gods providence to the Papal Chair and so denying him a power or will to remove the Candlestick from Rome and to give it to another Providence as Aquinas defines it Aquinas summa contr Gentiles is said to be invisible and remain in Gods secret councel Nondum rebus impressa for after it appears and showes it self in effects sensible then it is called Fate not Providence Now for him to tax God of improvidence unless the Pope should have this visible power of deposing Kings is neither Scholar nor Divine like he might as a Sooth-sayer of Egypt experimentally upon the coincidence of the effect of some inspection or Heathenish observation as that when the black Eagle shall preach upon Laterane Steeple the top of Saint Angelo shall be lifted up as was at the time of Otho 3. and Gregory the 5. c. Or have foretold that it was the Fate of Rome that if any Prince withstood the Pope he should be deposed as was in Henry 4. and Gregory 7. dayes but not to conclude this upon Gods Providence which no man by the reach of humane reason is able to pry into it is more transcendent then the consult of flesh and blood can apprehend Saint Paul cries out How unsearchable are his Iudgements and his waies past finding out who hath knowne the minde of the Lord or who was his Counsellor Rom. 11.34 And will Allen take upon him to circumscribe Gods Providence To know the secrets of mans heart is Gods attribute but such is the gross impiety of this blasphemous man that rather then the Pope should want excuse to depose Kings he will take upon him to know Gods heart and prove this prerogative by Gods Providence whereby he runs himself upon these absurdities He doth hereby spoyle the honour and credit of the glorious Martyrs by accusing them of error or ignorance of error for tamely suffering whenas they should have resisted of ignorance if they suffered because they knew not the will of God herein And he doth likewise give God the lye for if it was God's providence to his Church to resist in case Religion be opposed by the Prince sure he would not have bid Peter go back into Rome as the Papists pretend nor would he have prescribed the forementioned rules of obedience which are diametrically opposite to Allens pretended knowne Providence It is not the revealed will of God that the Crosier should resist the Scepter and the Mitre the Crown none of the Fathers of Romes Church ever practised or published that Doctrine before Hildebrands daies and if it was Gods Providence first known to Allen then Allen proves the Church of Rome to have been invisible for 1074 yeares