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A35111 Severall letters and passages between His Excellency, the Lord Generall Cromwell, and William Dundas, governour of Edinburgh Castle, and the ministers therein, since His Excellencies entrance into Edinburgh whereunto are annexed some quaeries that were then sent to the said governour and ministers. Cromwell, Oliver, 1599-1658.; Dundas, William, 17th cent. 1650 (1650) Wing C7167; ESTC R18846 7,541 10

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Severall Letters and Passages between his Excellency the Lord Generall CROMWELL and William Dundas Governour of Edinburgh Castle And the Ministers therein Since his Excellencies Entrance into Edinburgh Whereunto are annexed some Quaries that were then sent to the said Governour and Ministers Printed and sold in York by T. Broad at his Shopp near Common-Halls-Gate Septem. 27. 1650. For the Honourable the Governour of the Castle of Edinburgh SIR I received Command from my Lord Generall to desire you to let the Ministers of Edinburgh now in the Castle with you know that they have free libertie granted them if they please to take the pains to preach in their severall Churches and that my Lord hath given speciall Command both to Officers and Souldiers that they shall not in the least be molested Sir I am your most humble servant Edw Whalley Edinburgh Septem. 9. 1650. From the Governour of Edinburgh Castle to Colonell Whalley with my Lord Generals answer SSR I have communicated the desire of your Letter to such of the Ministers of Edinburgh as are with me who have desired me to return this for answer ●hat though they are ready to be spent in their Masters service and to refuse no ●●ffering so they may fulfill their Ministery with joy yet perceiving the persecution to be personall by the practice of your Party upon the Ministers of Christ in England and Ireland and in the Kingdom of Scotland since your unjust invasion thereof And finding nothing exprest in yours wherupon to build any security for their Persons while they are there and for their return hither they are resolved to reserve themselves for better times and to wait upon Him who hath hidden his face for a while from the Sonnes of Jacob This is all I have to say but that I am Sir Your most humble servant W Dundas 9. Septem. 1650. For the Honourable the Governour of the Castle of Edinburgh SIR the kindnesse offered to the Ministers with you was done with ingenuitie thinking it might have met with the like but I am satisfied to tell those with you That if their Masters service as they call it were chiefly in their eye imagination of suffering would not have caused such a return much lesse the practice by our Party as they are pleased to say upon the Ministers of Christ in England have been an argument of Personall persecution The Ministers in England are supported and have liberty to preach the Gospel though not to rail nor under pretence thereof to overtop the Civill Power or debase it as they please No man hath been troubled in England or Ireland for preaching the Gospel nor has any Minister been molested in Scotland since the comming of the Army hither the speaking the Truth becomes the Ministers of Christ when Ministers pretend to a glorious Reformation and lay the foundation thereof in getting to themselves worldly Power and can make worldly mixtures to accomplish the same such as their late agreement with their King and hopes by him to carry on their Design may know that the Sion promised and hoped for will not be built with such untempered Morter As for the unjust Invasion they mention time was when an Army of Scotland came into England not called by the Supream Authoritie We have said in our Papers with what hearts and upon what accompt we came and the Lord hath heard us though you would not upon as solemn an Appeal as any experience can parallell And although they seem to comfort themselves with being the sonnes of Jacob from whom they say God hath hid his face for a time yet it s no wonder when the Lord hath lifted up his hand so eminently against a Family as he hath done so often against this and men will not see his hand if the Lord hide his face from such putting them to shame both for it and their hatred at his People as it is this day When they purely trust to the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God which is powerfull to bring down strong Holds and every imagination that exalts it self which alone is able to square and fit the stones for the new Jerusalem then and not before and by that means and no other shall Jerusalem which is to be the praise of the whole earth the City of the Lord be built the Sion of the Holy one of Israel I have nothing to say to you but that I am Sir Your humble servant O. CROMWELL Septem. 9. 1650 A Letter from the Governour of Edinburgh Castle for the Right Honourable the Lord Cromwell Commander in chief of the English Army MY Lord yours I have communicated to these with me whom it concerned who desire me to return this answer That their ingenuity in prosecuting the ends of the Covenant according to their vocation and place and adhering to their first Principles is well known and one of their greatest regreats is that they have not been met with the like when Ministers of the Gospel have been imprisoned deprived of their Benefices sequestrate forced to flee from their dwellings and bitterly threatned for their faithfull declaring the Will of God against the godlesse and wicked proceedings of men that it cannot be accounted an imaginary fear of suffering in such as are resolved to follow the like freedom and faithfulnesse in discharge of their Masters Message That it savours not of ingenuitie to promise libertie of preaching the Gospel and to limit the Preachers thereof that they must not speak against the sinnes and enormities of Civill Powers since their Commission carryeth them to speak the Word of the Lord unto and to reprove the sinnes of Persons of all ranks from the highest to the lowest That to impose the name of railing upon such faithfull freedom was the old practice of Malignants against the Ministers of the Gospel who laid open to people the wickednesse of their wayes that they should not be insnared thereby That their consciences bear them record and all their hearers do know that they meddle not with Civill affairs further then to hold forth the rule of Gods Word by which the straightnes and crookednes of mens actions are made evident But they are sorry that they have just cause to regreat that men of meer Civill place and employment should usurpe the Calling and Employment of the Ministery to the scandall of the Reformed Kirks and particularly in Scotland contrary to the Government and Discipline therein established to the maintenance whereof you are bound by the Solemn League and Covenant Thus farre they have thought fit to vindicate the return to the offer in Col. Whalleys latter letter The other part of yours which concerns the Publike as well as them they conceive that all hath been answered sufficiently in the Publike Papers of the State and Kirk onely to that of the successe upon your solemne Appeal they say again what was said to it before That they have not so learned Christ as to hang the equity