pag._n 17._o now_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n sundry_a be_v baptize_v that_o have_v not_o so_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n act_v 8_o 15_o 16_o 17._o &_o 19_o 2_o 6._o but_o there_o be_v sundry_a further_a evidence_n at_o hand_n be_v there_o room_n here_o to_o insort_v they_o which_o show_n that_o in_o those_o first_o age_n of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v many_o within_o the_o church_n ãâã_d be_v debar_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n whâ_n yet_o have_v their_o child_n baptize_v in_o after_o ãâã_d how_o large_a baptism_n be_v may_v easy_o be_v gather_v but_o that_o there_o be_v though_o tâo_fw-la much_o laxness_n some_o more_o restraint_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n appear_v by_o the_o canonist_n old_a verse_n 184._o ebrius_fw-la infamy_n erroneus_fw-la atque_fw-la furentes_fw-la cum_fw-la pveris_fw-la domin_n non_fw-la debent_fw-la sumere_fw-la corpus_fw-la as_o for_o the_o time_n since_o the_o reformation_n it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o godly_a reform_n divine_n have_v in_o their_o doctrine_n unanimous_o teach_v and_o in_o their_o practice_n many_o ãâã_d then_o endeavour_v a_o strict_a selection_n of_o those_o that_o shall_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n when_o yet_o they_o have_v be_v ãâã_d large_a in_o poiââ_n of_o baptism_n and_o they_o still_o âo_o upon_o this_o principle_n that_o not_o all_o christian_n nor_o aâ_n baptize_v and_o generaâây-professing_a christian_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v able_a or_o may_v be_v repute_v able_a and_o careful_a to_o examine_v themselves_o and_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o they_o reckon_v that_o all_o christian_n aâ_n that_o be_v in_o their_o account_n within_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v to_o have_v their_o child_n baptize_v be_v it_o that_o in_o practice_n they_o be_v many_o of_o they_o too_o lax_n and_o large_a in_o both_o the_o sacrament_n chief_o through_o want_n of_o a_o due_a and_o effectual_a use_n of_o discipline_n by_o defect_n whereof_o many_o be_v sinful_o tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n who_o shall_v have_v be_v cast_v out_o and_o cut_v off_o and_o many_o suffer_v to_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n who_o shall_v have_v be_v debar_v and_o suspend_v of_o which_o themselves_o do_v ãâã_d sad_o complain_v 53._o yet_o it_o show_v thus_o much_o which_o be_v that_o we_o aim_v at_o that_o they_o hold_v a_o different_a latitude_n of_o the_o two_o sacrament_n as_o to_o the_o subject_n thereof_o even_o in_o the_o very_a sense_n of_o our_o question_n deny_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o many_o parent_n who_o child_n yet_o they_o scruple_v not_o to_o baptize_v this_o go_v for_o currant_n among_o all_o our_o great_a divine_n as_o a_o grant_a principle_n whereof_o many_o large_a and_o full_a testimony_n may_v easy_o be_v produce_v 37._o calvin_n in_o his_o geneva-cateâhism_a to_o that_o question_n whether_o paster_n may_v give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o all_o answer_n quoth_v ad_fw-la baptisâum_fw-la pertinet_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la insantibus_fw-la ãâã_d confertur_fw-la dâscreââo_fw-la ââcuâânon_fw-la habet_fw-la in_fw-la canââero_fw-la tavere_fw-la dehet_fw-la minister_n ne_fw-la cui_fw-la ipsam_fw-la porrigat_fw-la quem_fw-la indignum_fw-la esse_fw-la palà m_fw-la constet_fw-la if_o calvin_n will_v baptise_v all_o child_n bear_v among_o they_o without_o difference_n look_v upon_o they_o as_o bear_v within_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o yet_o not_o give_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o all_o than_o he_o will_v baptise_v some_o child_n who_o parent_n he_o will_v not_o adâit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n 1168._o luâoâ_n crââius_n describe_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n say_v infant_n verò_fw-la omnes_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o such_o infant_n as_o be_v either_o bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n or_o bring_v into_o the_o society_n of_o christian_n be_v to_o be_v baptise_a but_o of_o the_o lord_n âupper_n sâlt_n quidem_fw-la christian_n etc._n etc._n only_a christian_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o holy_a supper_n yet_o not_o promisâuâusty_a all_o christian_n but_o only_o those_o who_o both_o can_v and_o will_v examine_v themselves_o right_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n and_o celebrate_v this_o sacrament_n unto_o a_o commemoration_n of_o the_o death_n of_o chirst_n but_o there_o be_v many_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n that_o either_o can_v or_o will_v not_o âo_o those_o thing_n and_o these_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v ãâã_d touch_v the_o lord_n supper_n sai_z est_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n appoint_v for_o such_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n as_o be_v already_o baptize_v and_o adult_n and_o do_v examine_v themselves_o 631._o and_o in_o another_o place_n 743._o unto_o this_o question_n to_o who_o be_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o be_v give_v he_o answer_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a member_n of_o the_o church_n who_o can_v examine_v themselves_o and_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o faith_n and_o can_v ãâã_d forth_o the_o lord_n death_n for_o unto_o this_o mystery_n there_o be_v require_v examination_n of_o one_o self_n and_o annunciation_n of_o the_o lord_n death_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o unbeliever_n not_o to_o infant_n not_o to_o distract_a person_n not_o to_o those_o that_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o mystery_n not_o to_o the_o impenitent_a not_o to_o those_o that_o be_v by_o the_o orderly_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n excommunicate_v not_o to_o such_o as_o be_v pollute_v either_o with_o manife_a error_n or_o with_o any_o notorious_a wickedness_n until_o they_o have_v first_o satisfy_v the_o church_n and_o gâve_v testimony_n of_o their_o repentance_n compare_v herewith_o his_o latitude_n for_o baptism_n exores_o grant_v that_o so_o sundry_a of_o thosâ_n sort_n to_o who_o he_o deny_v the_o lord_n supper_n 50._o âezâ_n concern_v the_o question_n who_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a say_v all_o that_o be_v comprehend_v within_o the_o table_n of_o the_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n 122._o but_o to_o that_o question_n will_v you_o admit_v all_o sort_n to_o the_o lorâs_n supper_n he_o answer_v with_o great_a zeâl_n for_o ãâã_d and_o care_n therein_o and_o among_o other_o expreâââons_n thâse_o say_v he_o who_o ãâã_d age_n show_v they_o not_o to_o be_v of_o ability_n to_o examine_v themselves_o ãâ¦ã_z not_o as_o unworthy_a but_o as_o not_o yet_o fit_a âut_v of_o the_o adult_n no_o one_o be_v to_o be_v ãâã_d except_o he_o have_v one_o may_v or_o other_o so_o give_v account_n of_o his_o faith_n at_o that_o the_o paster_n may_v probable_o gather_v not_o only_o that_o he_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n but_o also_o that_o he_o be_v indeed_o a_o christian_a â45_n pelanius_fw-la touch_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n say_v unto_o the_o lord_n supper_n maybe_o admit_v only_a christian_n ãâã_d baptise_a and_o adult_a 55._o and_o such_o as_o can_v examine_v their_o ãâã_d with_o thank_v ãâ¦ã_z remember_v christ_n and_o show_v forth_o 11.26_o his_o death_n but_o of_o baptism_n all_o that_o be_v in_o covenant_n with_o god_n infant_n bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v geâkâr_n in_o his_o cââmon_a place_n albert'_v âhat_n soli_n christiani_n etc._n etc._n only_a christian_n i._n e._n such_o as_o embrace_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n as_o have_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o be_v implant_v into_o the_o christian_a church_n yet_o not_o ãâã_d christian_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o holy_a supper_n but_o according_a to_o paulâs_n rule_v these_o only_a ãâã_d examine_v themselves_o ãâã_d the_o lorâs_n body_n aââ_n show_v âârib_v the_o lord_n ãâã_d 1_o cor_fw-la 11.26_o 28_o 29._o all_o ãâã_d therefore_o be_v exclude_v who_o either_o will_v not_o ãâ¦ã_z examine_v themselves_o 18â_n buâ_n he_o extend_v baptism_n to_o all_o child_n bear_v of_o one_o or_o both_o christian_n parent_n oâ_n that_o come_v into_o the_o power_n of_o such_o 582._o the_o like_a may_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n when_o as_o they_o declare_v for_o a_o special_a selection_n of_o those_o who_o they_o admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supperâ_n see_v the_o confeâââââ_n of_o bohemia_n harmony_n of_o confess_v pag._n 421._o of_o belgia_n pag._n 432._o of_o ausââge_n pag._n 438_o 440._o or_o saxony_n p._n 447_o 44â_n ând_v the_o confession_n of_o scotland_n in_o the_o end_n of_o that_o harmony_n pag._n 24._o compare_v this_o with_o the_o deep_a silence_n of_o they_o âll_o touch_v any_o such_o selection_n in_o point_n of_o baptism_n as_o to_o the_o child_n that_o be_v bear_v among_o they_o and_o it_o be_v know_v to_o be_v their_o ordinary_a practice_n to_o baptise_v many_o child_n who_o parent_n they_o will_v not_o admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n all_o which_o with_o many_o more_o testimony_n that_o may_v be_v allege_v do_v abundant_o show_v it_o to_o have_v be_v the_o concurrent_a judgement_n of_o protestant_a divine_n that_o
baptism_n be_v of_o great_a latitude_n than_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o that_o all_o that_o do_v bring_v their_o child_n to_o partake_v of_o the_o former_a ãâã_d nât_v therefore_o themselves_o present_o partake_v of_o thâ_n latter_a but_o that_o many_o may_v have_v their_o child_n baptise_a and_o yet_o regular_o be_v debar_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n we_o may_v also_o mention_v the_o concurrence_n of_o divine_n with_o we_o in_o particular_a reason_n explication_n and_o assertion_n relate_v to_o ââis_n matter_n ââ_o that_o baptism_n be_v annex_v to_o the_o âeing_v or_o begin_n of_o faith_n the_o lord_n supper_n to_o the_o special_a exercise_n of_o it_o that_o baptism_n belong_v to_o all_o member_n but_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o soâe_a only_o that_o be_v so_o and_o so_o qualify_v that_o all_o visible_a believer_n who_o in_o a_o latitude_n of_o expression_n and_o ecclesiastical_a reputation_n be_v such_o as_o be_v all_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n vrsin_n and_o pareus_n answer_v that_o objection_n against_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n that_o then_o they_o must_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n have_v these_o word_n magnum_fw-la discrimen_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n for_o 1._o baptism_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o entrance_n and_o reception_n into_o the_o church_n but_o ãâã_d supper_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o continuance_n in_o the_o church_n ãâã_d confirmation_n of_o the_o reception_n ãâã_d make_v 2._o regeneration_n by_o ãâ¦ã_z 372_o and_o not_o to_o they_o present_o but_o after_o that_o they_o have_v hold_v forth_o a_o confession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n 380._o also_o it_o may_v be_v mind_v that_o it_o be_v the_o currant_n and_o constant_a expression_n of_o our_o divine_n that_o they_o call_v and_o count_v all_o that_o be_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n whether_o infant_n or_o adult_n fideles_fw-la vâcati_fw-la faithful_a call_v &c._n &c._n and_o they_o will_v tell_v you_o that_o they_o be_v for_o baptise_v no_o infant_n but_o such_o as_o be_v infant_n fidelium_fw-la the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a or_o of_o believer_n infant_n non_fw-la omnes_fw-la sed_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la fidelium_fw-la i._n e._n baptizatorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la chamier_n tom._n 4._o pag._n 130._o so_o daneus_n infant_n ex_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la i._n e._n baptizaââs_fw-la nati_fw-la possunt_fw-la baptizari_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la lib._n 5._o de_fw-fr sacram._n pag._n 538._o and_o yet_o they_o do_v not_o look_v at_o all_o these_o no_o not_o at_o all_o the_o adult_n that_o come_v under_o this_o denomination_n and_o who_o child_n they_o baptise_v to_o be_v regular_o admittable_a to_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o plain_o show_v their_o judgement_n to_o be_v that_o all_o adult_n person_n who_o be_v in_o a_o latitude_n of_o expression_n to_o be_v account_v visible_a believer_n or_o in_o ecclesiastical_a reputation_n to_o be_v look_v at_o as_o fideles_fw-la be_v not_o therefore_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n dr._n ames_n account_n that_o a_o person_n may_v be_v a_o believer_n on_o christ_n and_o yet_o be_v unfit_a for_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o sufficient_o instruct_v thereunto_o bellar._n eneru._n tom._n 3._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 1._o and_o he_o express_o say_v that_o church-children_n be_v to_o be_v number_v among_o the_o faithful_a and_o reckon_v they_o to_o have_v the_o beginning_n of_o faith_n yet_o not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o all_o ordinance_n till_o increase_v of_o faith_n appear_v medul_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 32._o thes._n 12_o 13._o mr._n hooker_n take_v it_o for_o grant_v as_o a_o clear_a case_n that_o one_o may_v be_v a_o convert_n sound_o bring_v home_o to_o christ_n and_o yet_o through_o his_o weakness_n not_o able_a to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n aright_o nor_o fit_a to_o partake_v of_o the_o supper_n survey_n part_n 3._o pag._n 16._o and_o in_o his_o sermon_n on_o gen._n 17.23_o pag._n 21._o he_o have_v these_o word_n baptism_n be_v the_o entrance_n into_o christ_n family_n there_o be_v much_o more_o to_o be_v look_v at_o to_o make_v a_o person_n capable_a of_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n a_o man_n must_v be_v able_a to_o examine_v himself_o he_o must_v not_o only_o have_v grace_n but_o growth_n of_o grace_n he_o must_v have_v so_o much_o perfection_n in_o grace_n as_o to_o search_v his_o own_o heart_n and_o he_o must_v be_v able_a to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n or_o else_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n so_o as_o there_o be_v more_o require_v in_o this_o for_o there_o must_v be_v a_o growth_n but_o baptism_n be_v our_o entrance_n and_o the_o low_a degree_n of_o grace_n will_v serve_v here_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n worthy_a hildersham_n on_o psal._n 51.5_o pag._n 257._o say_v the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v say_v to_o be_v holy_a not_o because_o they_o be_v without_o sin_n but_o because_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n they_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v not_o infidel_n as_o other_o child_n of_o pagan_n but_o christian_n and_o believer_n and_o holy_a and_o true_a member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o hence_o 1._o so_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v bear_v they_o have_v title_n to_o the_o seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n and_o the_o church_n may_v not_o deny_v it_o unto_o then_o and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o church_n deny_v baptism_n to_o any_o child_n of_o a_o believe_a parent_n sure_o because_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o esteem_v every_o such_o child_n not_o a_o infidel_n but_o rather_o a_o believer_n and_o a_o true_a christian._n 2._o when_o they_o die_v we_o be_v in_o christian_a charity_n to_o judge_v that_o they_o die_v in_o god_n favour_n and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o salvation_n and_o all_o this_o because_o of_o the_o covenant_n gen._n 17._o as_o he_o there_o add_v yet_o the_o same_o 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the_o above_o mention_v practice_n of_o antiquity_n in_o not_o so_o much_o as_o teach_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la any_o thing_n about_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o after_o they_o be_v baptize_v indeed_o as_o the_o darkness_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o time_n increase_v baptism_n be_v not_o only_o defer_v till_o easter_n as_o be_v here_o say_v but_o till_o death_n which_o be_v just_o tax_v as_o a_o abuse_n by_o cartwright_n in_o his_o catechism_n pag._n 182._o and_o we_o suppose_v will_v not_o be_v approve_v by_o any_o the_o arausiacan_a council_n 19_o canon_n do_v not_o concern_v the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n as_o it_o be_v set_v down_o by_o the_o magdeburg_n centurist_n cent._n 5._o pag._n 907._o but_o however_o it_o be_v it_o be_v of_o small_a moment_n the_o overlong_a hold_v off_o of_o adult_n convert_v from_o baptism_n that_o we_o sometime_o read_v of_o in_o the_o four_o and_o five_o century_n be_v a_o manifest_a deviation_n from_o the_o apostolical_a practice_n we_o find_v 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be_v member_n of_o a_o institute_v church_n according_a to_o gospel-rule_n and_o that_o they_o be_v under_o personal_a covenant_n i._n e._n personal_o ãâã_d into_o covenant_n by_o god_n according_a to_o his_o gospel-rule_n though_o they_o have_v not_o perform_v the_o act_n of_o covenant_v in_o their_o own_o person_n yea_o under_o explicit_a covenant_n also_o if_o the_o parent_n covenant_v be_v explicit_a deut._n 29._o so_o ames_n they_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n and_o also_o of_o the_o same_o profession_n with_o their_o parent_n though_o we_o take_v it_o for_o a_o principle_n grant_v by_o congregational_a man_n with_o one_o consent_n that_o implicit_a covenant_n preserve_v the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n and_o so_o of_o true_a church-membership_a 2._o the_o consequent_a of_o our_o assertion_n here_o urge_v as_o absurd_a viz._n that_o then_o in_o ease_n all_o the_o pro-parent_n
be_v dead_a this_o second_o generation_n will_v be_v a_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n without_o any_o further_a act_n or_o covenant_a be_v no_o absurdity_n but_o a_o manifest_a truth_n i._n e._n take_v that_o phrase_n further_n act_n or_o covenant_v to_o be_v mean_v of_o a_o particular_a formal_a act_n of_o explicite_fw-la verbal_n covenant_v for_o otherwise_o there_o be_v a_o further_a act_n yea_o a_o act_n of_o implicit_a covenant_v in_o their_o constant_a and_o public_a profession_n of_o the_o religion_n of_o their_o father_n but_o we_o say_v this_o second_o generation_n continue_v to_o use_v mr._n cotton_v phrase_n in_o ground_n of_o baptism_n pag._n 106._o in_o a_o visible_a profession_n of_o the_o covenant_n faith_n and_o religion_n of_o their_o father_n be_v a_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n though_o they_o have_v not_o yet_o make_v any_o explicit_a personal_a expression_n of_o their_o engagement_n as_o their_o father_n do_v even_o as_o the_o israelite_n that_o be_v number_v 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curious_a circumspection_n lest_o any_o goat_n shall_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n the_o apostle_n often_o baptize_v person_n with_o who_o they_o have_v scarce_o have_v a_o hour_n speech_n concern_v christ_n because_o according_a to_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o gospel_n they_o will_v bring_v in_o all_o they_o meet_v with_o to_o the_o marriage_n mat._n 22.10_o for_o by_o baptism_n they_o only_o take_v they_o into_o the_o school_n of_o piety_n and_o trained-hand_n of_o christian_n and_o they_o be_v wont_n then_o to_o cast_v they_o out_o again_o when_o it_o be_v evident_o enough_o perceive_v that_o to_o labour_v in_o teach_v they_o be_v in_o vain_a ibid._n fol._n 53._o as_o for_o parker_n his_o speak_v main_o against_o the_o admit_v or_o tolerate_v of_o manifestarii_fw-la peccatores_fw-la the_o notorious_o wicked_a and_o plead_v to_o have_v they_o debar_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n or_o cast_v out_o by_o the_o use_n of_o discipline_n 169._o his_o frequent_a approbation_n of_o 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person_n be_v by_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n for_o moral_a evil_n but_o while_o we_o grant_v that_o in_o some_o respect_v more_o positive_a fruit_n in_o regard_n of_o degree_n may_v be_v require_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n let_v none_o so_o understand_v it_o as_o if_o regeneration_n be_v not_o require_v as_o all_o unto_o the_o constitution_n and_o continuation_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n but_o that_o a_o mere_a carnal_a succession_n be_v then_o allow_v of_o without_o regard_n to_o regeneration_n for_o they_o stoâd_v by_o faith_n and_o be_v brâken_v off_o by_o unbelief_n as_o well_o as_o we_o rom._n 11._o circumcision_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n as_o well_o as_o baptism_n faith_n and_o repentance_n do_v not_o now_o more_o constitute_v the_o covenant_n of_o god_n than_o it_o do_v in_o the_o time_n of_o abraham_n who_o be_v the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a say_v dr._n ames_n 13_o yea_o our_o brethren_n do_v in_o their_o antisynodalia_fw-la pag._n 17._o express_o say_v that_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n and_o the_o circumcision_n of_o his_o seed_n be_v appoint_v upon_o the_o same_o term_n that_o baptism_n be_v i._n e._n that_o he_o shall_v walk_v with_o god_n by_o faith_n and_o obedience_n and_o it_o be_v observable_a that_o no_o where_o be_v regeneration_n and_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o require_v of_o god_n covenant_n people_n in_o strict_a and_o full_a term_n then_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n gen._n 17.1_o deut._n 10.12_o &_o 26.16_o 17._o 1_o king_n 8.23_o psal._n 103.17_o 18._o isa._n 56.4_o 6._o and_o yet_o the_o lord_n who_o be_v the_o best_a interpreter_n of_o his_o own_o rule_n continue_v they_o in_o the_o church_n and_o account_v they_o among_o the_o number_n of_o his_o holy_a people_n till_o palpallâ_n and_o incorrigible_a fruit_n of_o irregeneration_n be_v find_v
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the_o text_n mat._n 28.19_o 20._o where_o christ_n minister_n be_v require_v to_o baptise_v and_o to_o teach_v the_o baptise_a to_o observe_v all_o his_o commandment_n the_o assumption_n be_v plain_a of_o itself_o to_o the_o seven_o argument_n viz._n that_o elder_n must_v seed_v i._n e._n both_o teach_v and_o rule_v all_o the_o flock_n and_o that_o child_n be_v part_n of_o the_o flock_n the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o this_o concern_v not_o such_o grow_a person_n as_o be_v not_o in_o full_a communion_n for_o without_o this_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v account_v of_o the_o flock_n or_o church_n ans._n if_o this_o that_o be_v here_o say_v be_v sufficient_o and_o clear_o prove_v it_o will_v be_v very_o acceptable_a to_o many_o elder_n in_o this_o country_n as_o clear_v they_o from_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o burden_n which_o they_o suppose_v themselves_o to_o be_v under_o and_o when_o the_o holy-ghost_n say_v that_o they_o must_v take_v heed_n to_o themselves_o and_o to_o all_o the_o flock_n act._n 20_o 28._o and_o that_o they_o must_v watch_v for_o their_o soul_n as_o they_o that_o must_v give_v account_n heb._n 13.17_o to_o say_v that_o these_o soul_n and_o this_o flock_n be_v only_o such_o as_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n and_o infant_n or_o child_n in_o minority_n and_o that_o these_o last_o mention_v who_o then_o be_v of_o the_o flock_n do_v now_o cease_v to_o be_v of_o it_o when_o they_o become_v âaul_v and_o that_o now_o the_o elder_n be_v not_o charge_v to_o watch_v over_o they_o any_o long_o nor_o to_o give_v account_n of_o their_o soul_n we_o fear_v this_o will_v be_v a_o undue_a straighten_n and_o limit_v of_o the_o text_n allege_v and_o will_v be_v no_o good_a plea_n before_o the_o lord_n and_o therefore_o without_o bâtâer_a proof_n we_o dare_v not_o assent_v unto_o it_o for_o what_o the_o synod_n allege_v that_o the_o apostle_n write_v to_o the_o fâock_n or_o church_n at_o ephesus_n do_v also_o write_v to_o child_n eph._n 6.1_o as_o count_v they_o part_n of_o the_o flock_n we_o do_v not_o see_v that_o this_o be_v sufficient_o take_v off_o by_o what_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v viz._n that_o those_o child_n be_v either_o child_n in_o their_o minority_n or_o if_o adult_n they_o be_v personal_o join_v to_o the_o church_n and_o so_o in_o full_a communion_n for_o let_v the_o word_n and_o scope_n of_o the_o text_n be_v consider_v and_o we_o conceive_v it_o will_v appear_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o the_o place_n be_v too_o narrow_a for_o the_o child_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v such_o as_o be_v bind_v to_o obey_v their_o parent_n in_o the_o lord_n this_o be_v right_o and_o such_o as_o be_v under_o the_o five_o commandment_n the_o word_n whereof_o the_o apostle_n do_v there_o allege_v honour_v thy_o father_n and_o mother_n etc._n etc._n now_o how_o shall_v it_o appear_v that_o though_o child_n in_o minority_n and_o child_n when_o admit_v into_o full_a communion_n in_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o obey_v their_o parent_n and_o to_o honour_n father_n and_o mother_n yet_o other_o child_n be_v not_o so_o bind_v be_v there_o any_o ground_n for_o it_o that_o child_n now_o adult_n if_o not_o in_o full_a communion_n in_o the_o church_n be_v exempt_v from_o this_o commandment_n of_o obedience_n to_o their_o parent_n and_o of_o honour_v of_o they_o we_o conceive_v there_o be_v none_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o than_o the_o child_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v child_n adult_v as_o well_o as_o other_o whether_o in_o full_a communion_n or_o not_o and_o if_o so_o than_o these_o child_n as_o well_o as_o other_o be_v part_n of_o the_o flock_n and_o church_n of_o ephesus_n to_o who_o that_o epistle_n be_v write_v and_o then_o the_o whole_a flock_n be_v under_o the_o charge_n of_o elder_n to_o feed_v they_o i._n e._n both_o to_o teach_v and_o kâlâ_n they_o it_o appear_v thereby_o that_o what_o the_o synod_n here_o say_v that_o these_o child_n be_v under_o the_o watch_n and_o discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v sound_a and_o good_a and_o so_o stand_v for_o all_o that_o be_v here_o allege_a to_o the_o contrary_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o eight_o argument_n from_o the_o danger_n of_o irreligion_n and_o apostasy_n break_v into_o church_n and_o the_o want_n of_o any_o churchway_n to_o prevent_v and_o heal_v the_o same_o if_o these_o child_n of_o church-member_n be_v not_o under_o church-government_n and_o discipline_n and_o that_o through_o want_n hereof_o many_o church-member_n will_v be_v bring_v under_o that_o dreadful_a judgement_n of_o be_v let-alone_n in_o their_o wickedness_n hos._n 4.16_o 17._o the_o reverend_a author_n name_v sundry_a other_o mean_n for_o prevent_v these_o evil_n as_o that_o no_o adult_n personâ_n be_v receive_v into_o personal_a membership_n till_o fit_v for_o all_o church-communion_n and_o that_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n which_o christ_n have_v leave_v to_o bind_v and_o loose_v be_v right_o manage_v towards_o delinquent-member_n that_o be_v orderly_o admit_v into_o church-communion_n and_o for_o other_o that_o be_v not_o thus_o join_v to_o the_o church_n that_o authority_n in_o family_n and_o commonwealth_n be_v wise_o and_o faithful_o manage_v towards_o such_o pag._n 15_o 16._o ans._n all_o these_o we_o acknowledge_v may_v by_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n be_v much_o available_a in_o their_o way_n for_o âhe_n purpose_n allege_v and_o oh_o that_o there_o be_v due_a care_n and_o watchfulness_n in_o churcheâ_n family_n and_o commonwealth_n for_o the_o faithful_a and_o due_a exercise_n hereof_o nevertheless_o we_o conceive_v all_o these_o be_v not_o ââfficienâ_n for_o the_o purpose_n desire_v 1._o because_o some_o of_o they_o be_v not_o church-waye_n at_o all_o of_o which_o the_o synod_n argument_n speak_v though_o it_o be_v not_o so_o express_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n and_o therefore_o tâough_o government_n in_o family_n and_o commonwealth_n be_v careful_o use_v in_o the_o manner_n express_v yet_o churchway_n may_v be_v want_v for_o all_o this_o 2._o those_o church-waye_n that_o be_v mention_v viz._n care_n in_o admit_v into_o the_o church_n and_o due_a manage_v the_o key_n of_o discipline_n to_o they_o that_o be_v so_o admit_v these_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prevent_v the_o evil_n speak_v of_o and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o there_o be_v a_o great_a multitude_n of_o person_n who_o be_v either_o bear_v in_o the_o church_n or_o be_v admit_v thereinto_o in_o their_o infancy_n or_o minority_n who_o if_o they_o be_v not_o under_o church-discipline_n when_o adult_n be_v let_v alone_o in_o their_o wickedness_n in_o respect_n of_o any_o churchway_n to_o heal_v they_o and_o by_o want_n of_o this_o church-discipline_n towards_o these_o person_n irreligion_n and_o apostasy_n may_v break_v into_o the_o church_n notwithstanding_o all_o church-waye_n towards_o other_o and_o all_o other_o way_n in_o commonwealth_n and_o family_n towards_o these_o for_o churchway_n for_o the_o good_a of_o these_o there_o be_v none_o if_o they_o be_v not_o under_o church-government_n and_o discipline_n as_o for_o that_o which_o be_v here_o say_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n that_o the_o church_n censure_v of_o adult_n person_n admit_v before_o they_o be_v qualify_v for_o communion_n in_o all_o ordinance_n will_v not_o prevent_v or_o heal_v those_o evil_n see_v the_o lord_n bless_v only_o his_o own_o institution_n not_o man_n device_n and_o that_o humane_a invention_n usual_o cause_v the_o evil_n which_o they_o pretend_v to_o cure_v pag._n 15._o this_o reason_n may_v have_v in_o itself_o a_o truth_n viz._n that_o god_n institution_n and_o not_o man_n invention_n be_v the_o way_n wherein_o man_n may_v expect_v a_o blessing_n but_o if_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v affirm_v of_o church-discipline_n towards_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o that_o such_o church-discipline_n be_v a_o humane_a
yet_o they_o suit_v not_o the_o case_n in_o question_n and_o why_o not_o the_o reason_n render_v be_v because_o all_o man_n that_o be_v member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n have_v full_a communion_n in_o all_o legal_a ordinance_n even_o they_o that_o be_v ceremonial_o unclean_a have_v so_o before_o their_o uncleanness_n and_o after_o they_o be_v heal_v of_o their_o uncleanness_n as_o well_o as_o other_o so_o then_o the_o unsuitableness_n be_v that_o ceremonial_a uncleanness_n do_v debar_v man_n from_o full_a communion_n though_o they_o have_v be_v partaker_n of_o it_o afore_o and_o may_v be_v again_o after_o their_o cleanse_n whereas_o the_o case_n in_o question_n be_v of_o such_o as_o yet_o never_o bid_v such_o full_a communion_n but_o what_o weight_n be_v there_o in_o this_o to_o weaken_v the_o synod_n argument_n if_o ceremonial_a uncleanness_n do_v then_o hinder_v man_n from_o full_a communion_n who_o have_v former_o have_v it_o be_v there_o not_o as_o much_o reason_n that_o want_v of_o spiritual_a qualification_n shall_v now_o hinder_v man_n from_o such_o full_a communion_n who_o yet_o have_v never_o have_v it_o one_o will_v think_v such_o a_o matter_n as_o will_v suffice_v for_o the_o debar_v of_o one_o from_o full_a communion_n who_o have_v former_o enjoy_v it_o may_v suffice_v for_o hinder_v one_o from_o such_o communion_n who_o never_o yet_o be_v partaker_n thereof_o and_o if_o the_o priest_n and_o porter_n in_o israel_n have_v charge_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o partake_v of_o all_o the_o holy_a thing_n unless_o due_o qualify_v for_o the_o same_o notwithstanding_o their_o membership_n in_o fâll_a communion_n with_o the_o church_n for_o so_o the_o reverend_a author_n â_o 19_o understand_v that_o place_n in_o 2_o chron._n 23_o 19_o do_v it_o not_o much_o more_o follow_v that_o such_o as_o yet_o never_o have_v such_o full_a communion_n may_v just_o be_v keep_v therefrom_o until_o due_o qualiâica_n notwithstanding_o their_o membership_n for_o aught_o we_o see_v this_o consequence_n be_v strong_a and_o undeniable_a and_o so_o the_o synod_n argument_n in_o this_o place_n from_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v not_o at_o all_o overthrow_v but_o rather_o more_o strengthen_v as_o for_o what_o the_o reverend_a author_n say_v pag._n 18_o 9_o to_o the_o particular_a text_n here_o allege_v viz._n levit._n 7.20_o 21._o numb_a 9.6_o 7._o &_o 19.13_o 20._o ezek._n 44.7_o 8_o 9_o which_o he_o understand_v to_o signify_v and_o teach_v that_o in_o gospel-time_n man_n shall_v be_v remove_v ouâ_n of_o church-communion_n by_o excommunication_n if_o they_o be_v scandalous_a and_o impenitent_a sinner_n and_o that_o such_o scandalous_a person_n such_o as_o be_v visible_o uncircumcised_a in_o heart_n and_o spiritual_o unclean_a shall_v not_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n we_o shall_v not_o insist_v upon_o these_o particular_n for_o it_o be_v our_o desire_n that_o no_o unworthy_a person_n may_v be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n nor_o suffer_v to_o continue_v 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