invention_n why_o shall_v this_o be_v affirm_v and_o not_o prove_v for_o as_o for_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o they_o be_v not_o first_o admit_v when_o adult_n but_o before_o they_o be_v adult_n even_o in_o their_o infancy_n or_o minority_n and_o now_o be_v adult_n and_o yet_o never_o cut_v off_o or_o cast_v out_o from_o their_o church-relation_n if_o by_o sin_n they_o deserve_v church-censure_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o apply_v to_o they_o but_o that_o in_o respect_n thereof_o they_o be_v let_v alone_o be_v they_o not_o then_o under_o that_o judgement_n hos._n 4_o of_o be_v â—eâ—_n alone_o in_o their_o wickedness_n and_o do_v not_o this_o neglect_v make_v way_n for_o irreligion_n and_o apostasy_n in_o church_n no_o churchway_n be_v use_v towards_o these_o for_o prevent_v thereof_o for_o we_o do_v not_o see_v any_o ground_n to_o think_v that_o the_o use_n of_o church_n discipline_n towards_o such_o be_v a_o humane_a invention_n for_o these_o particular_n to_o we_o do_v seem_v plain_a 1._o that_o church-discipline_n shall_v be_v use_v towards_o all_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n as_o there_o may_v be_v occasion_n and_o need_v of_o it_o and_o as_o in_o respect_n of_o understanding_n and_o age_n they_o be_v capable_a 2._o it_o be_v plain_a also_o that_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o be_v once_o within_o the_o church_n and_o as_o such_o be_v baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n this_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o by_o join_v with_o the_o antipoedobaptist_n in_o deny_v the_o baâ—â—â—sm_n and_o church-membership_a of_o little_a child_n and_o last_o it_o be_v plain_a also_o that_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o though_o now_o they_o be_v adult_n be_v never_o yet_o in_o any_o way_n of_o god_n cast_v out_o or_o cut_v off_o from_o the_o church_n and_o the_o relation_n to_o it_o which_o they_o former_o have_v and_o many_o of_o they_o be_v far_o from_o deserve_v any_o such_o matter_n now_o though_o church-government_n and_o church-discipline_n towards_o such_o as_o be_v never_o in_o the_o church_n may_v be_v count_v a_o humane_a dâ—vicâ—_n yet_o for_o such_o as_o be_v once_o according_a to_o order_n and_o divine_a institution_n within_o it_o as_o member_n thereof_o and_o never_o be_v since_o strut_v of_o 〈◊〉_d or_o cut_v off_o fâ—om_o that_o relation_n which_o be_v the_o case_n of_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o to_o say_v that_o church-government_n and_o church-discipline_n towards_o such_o be_v a_o humane_a invention_n we_o see_v no_o sufficient_a reason_n either_o so_o to_o say_v or_o think_v but_o do_v rather_o conceive_v that_o this_o church-discipline_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v a_o humane_a invention_n that_o the_o neglect_n thereof_o be_v a_o neglect_n of_o a_o divine_a institution_n and_o that_o aâ—_n swoon_v of_o 〈◊〉_d personspunc_fw-la and_o declare_v of_o they_o to_o be_v non-member_n which_o some_o speak_v for_o if_o this_o be_v not_o a_o church-censure_n what_o be_v it_o other_o than_o a_o humane_a invention_n and_o device_n so_o much_o for_o defence_n of_o what_o be_v say_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o three_o proposition_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n when_o grow_v up_o be_v under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n propose_v 4._o the_o four_o proposition_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v that_o these_o adult_n person_n be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n mere_o because_o they_o be_v and_o continue_v member_n without_o such_o further_a qualification_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n require_v thereunto_o by_o which_o proposition_n of_o the_o synod_n there_o be_v a_o prevent_n of_o a_o usual_a objection_n from_o the_o danger_n of_o pollute_v the_o ordinance_n by_o unworthy_a partaker_n if_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n be_v count_v member_n and_o to_o be_v as_o such_o under_o church-watchfulness_n and_o government_n when_o adult_n for_o some_o may_v think_v that_o if_o this_o their_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n be_v grant_v there_o will_v then_o be_v danger_n that_o they_o will_v also_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n afore_o they_o be_v due_o qualify_v for_o that_o ordinance_n now_o the_o scope_n of_o this_o four_o proposition_n be_v to_o prevent_v this_o evil_a and_o therefore_o it_o be_v the_o more_o to_o be_v admire_v that_o the_o proposition_n shall_v not_o be_v grant_v by_o the_o reverend_a author_n and_o by_o all_o that_o desire_v the_o lord_n supper_n may_v be_v preserve_v from_o unworthy_a partaker_n as_o we_o do_v not_o doubt_v but_o he_o do_v but_o why_o then_o be_v this_o proposition_n stick_v at_o if_o it_o may_v not_o be_v grant_v that_o these_o adult_n person_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o fâ—ll_v communion_n without_o such_o qualification_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n require_v thereunto_o which_o be_v what_o the_o synod_n say_v must_v the_o contrary_a to_o this_o be_v grant_v that_o they_o may_v be_v admit_v thereunto_o without_o such_o qualification_n at_o all_o we_o suppose_v the_o reverend_a author_n will_v not_o grant_v this_o and_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o consent_n to_o the_o other_o but_o except_v against_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o for_o say_v he_o though_o this_o proposition_n seem_v to_o they_o plain_o yet_o it_o seem_v not_o sufficient_o clear_v by_o their_o proof_n 1._o from_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o 29._o where_o it_o be_v require_v that_o such_o as_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v able_a to_o examine_v themselves_o and_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n else_o they_o will_v eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o and_o eat_v and_o drink_v judgement_n to_o themselves_o when_o they_o partake_v of_o this_o ordinance_n but_o this_o ability_n be_v too_o ofâ—â—n_o see_v to_o be_v want_v in_o the_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n that_o grow_v up_o to_o year_n pag._n 16_o 17._o to_o this_o argument_n the_o reply_n of_o the_o reverend_a author_n be_v by_o way_n of_o concession_n and_o of_o exception_n his_o concession_n be_v two_o 1._o that_o the_o want_n of_o such_o ability_n in_o the_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v indeed_o too_o often_o see_v through_o the_o too_o frequent_a neglect_n of_o parent_n in_o their_o education_n and_o of_o minister_n and_o church_n in_o their_o institution_n or_o instruction_n and_o catechise_v and_o watch_v over_o they_o pag._n 17._o ans._n it_o seem_v then_o that_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n even_o when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o to_o year_n for_o it_o be_v of_o such_o that_o the_o synod_n argument_n here_o speak_v and_o so_o the_o reverend_a author_n do_v express_v it_o be_v not_o only_o under_o the_o education_n of_o parent_n but_o also_o under_o the_o institution_n catechise_v and_o watch_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o of_o the_o church_n how_o then_o will_v that_o stand_v which_o be_v say_v before_o pag._n 10._o that_o when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o they_o be_v not_o under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n for_o here_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o they_o be_v under_o the_o watch_n of_o the_o church_n and_o if_o under_o church-watch_n proper_o as_o such_o then_o under_o discipline_n and_o that_o the_o neglect_n of_o minister_n and_o church_n herein_o be_v one_o cause_n of_o their_o want_n of_o ability_n to_o examine_v themselves_o and_o to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n now_o can_v the_o neglect_n of_o church-watchfulness_n be_v a_o cause_n of_o this_o evil_a if_o the_o lord_n have_v not_o appoint_v they_o to_o be_v under_o the_o same_o these_o thing_n seem_v not_o well_o to_o agree_v again_o if_o the_o want_n of_o such_o ability_n be_v too_o often_o see_v in_o the_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n when_o grow_v up_o as_o be_v here_o acknowledge_v then_o what_o the_o synod_n here_o say_v seem_v to_o be_v true_a and_o stand_v good_a that_o such_o grow_v person_n though_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n or_o church-member_n be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o notwithstanding_o this_o they_o may_v want_v that_o ability_n that_o be_v requisite_a to_o such_o full_a communion_n 2._o the_o second_o concession_n here_o be_v that_o membership_n be_v separable_a from_o yea_o destitute_a of_o such-ability_n in_o the_o infant-seed_n or_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o their_o minority_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o that_o text_n viz._n 1_o cor._n 1â—_n 28_o 29._o prove_v it_o ans._n do_v that_o text_n prove_v that_o infant_n and_o child_n in_o minority_n though_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o yet_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n because_o they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o examine_v themselves_o and_o to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n and_o do_v it_o not_o also_o prove_v the_o same_o concern_v child_n when_o adult_n if_o this_o disability_n be_v find_v in_o they_o also_o sure_a infant_n and_o child_n in_o
pag._n 17._o now_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n sundry_a be_v baptize_v that_o have_v not_o so_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n act_v 8_o 15_o 16_o 17._o &_o 19_o 2_o 6._o but_o there_o be_v sundry_a further_a evidence_n at_o hand_n be_v there_o room_n here_o to_o insort_v they_o which_o show_n that_o in_o those_o first_o age_n of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v many_o within_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d be_v debar_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n whâ—_n yet_o have_v their_o child_n baptize_v in_o after_o 〈◊〉_d how_o large_a baptism_n be_v may_v easy_o be_v gather_v but_o that_o there_o be_v though_o tâ—o_fw-la much_o laxness_n some_o more_o restraint_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n appear_v by_o the_o canonist_n old_a verse_n 184._o ebrius_fw-la infamy_n erroneus_fw-la atque_fw-la furentes_fw-la cum_fw-la pveris_fw-la domin_n non_fw-la debent_fw-la sumere_fw-la corpus_fw-la as_o for_o the_o time_n since_o the_o reformation_n it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o godly_a reform_n divine_n have_v in_o their_o doctrine_n unanimous_o teach_v and_o in_o their_o practice_n many_o 〈◊〉_d then_o endeavour_v a_o strict_a selection_n of_o those_o that_o shall_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n when_o yet_o they_o have_v be_v 〈◊〉_d large_a in_o poiâ—â—_n of_o baptism_n and_o they_o still_o â—o_o upon_o this_o principle_n that_o not_o all_o christian_n nor_o aâ—_n baptize_v and_o generaâ—â—y-professing_a christian_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v able_a or_o may_v be_v repute_v able_a and_o careful_a to_o examine_v themselves_o and_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o they_o reckon_v that_o all_o christian_n aâ—_n that_o be_v in_o their_o account_n within_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v to_o have_v their_o child_n baptize_v be_v it_o that_o in_o practice_n they_o be_v many_o of_o they_o too_o lax_n and_o large_a in_o both_o the_o sacrament_n chief_o through_o want_n of_o a_o due_a and_o effectual_a use_n of_o discipline_n by_o defect_n whereof_o many_o be_v sinful_o tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n who_o shall_v have_v be_v cast_v out_o and_o cut_v off_o and_o many_o suffer_v to_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n who_o shall_v have_v be_v debar_v and_o suspend_v of_o which_o themselves_o do_v 〈◊〉_d sad_o complain_v 53._o yet_o it_o show_v thus_o much_o which_o be_v that_o we_o aim_v at_o that_o they_o hold_v a_o different_a latitude_n of_o the_o two_o sacrament_n as_o to_o the_o subject_n thereof_o even_o in_o the_o very_a sense_n of_o our_o question_n deny_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o many_o parent_n who_o child_n yet_o they_o scruple_v not_o to_o baptize_v this_o go_v for_o currant_n among_o all_o our_o great_a divine_n as_o a_o grant_a principle_n whereof_o many_o large_a and_o full_a testimony_n may_v easy_o be_v produce_v 37._o calvin_n in_o his_o geneva-cateâ—hism_a to_o that_o question_n whether_o paster_n may_v give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o all_o answer_n quoth_v ad_fw-la baptisâ—um_fw-la pertinet_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la insantibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d confertur_fw-la dâ—screâ—â—o_fw-la â—â—cuâ—â—non_fw-la habet_fw-la in_fw-la canâ—â—ero_fw-la tavere_fw-la dehet_fw-la minister_n ne_fw-la cui_fw-la ipsam_fw-la porrigat_fw-la quem_fw-la indignum_fw-la esse_fw-la palà m_fw-la constet_fw-la if_o calvin_n will_v baptise_v all_o child_n bear_v among_o they_o without_o difference_n look_v upon_o they_o as_o bear_v within_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o yet_o not_o give_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o all_o than_o he_o will_v baptise_v some_o child_n who_o parent_n he_o will_v not_o adâ—it_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n 1168._o luâ—oâ—_n crâ—â—ius_n describe_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n say_v infant_n verò_fw-la omnes_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o such_o infant_n as_o be_v either_o bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n or_o bring_v into_o the_o society_n of_o christian_n be_v to_o be_v baptise_a but_o of_o the_o lord_n â—upper_n sâ—lt_n quidem_fw-la christian_n etc._n etc._n only_a christian_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o holy_a supper_n yet_o not_o promisâ—uâ—usty_a all_o christian_n but_o only_o those_o who_o both_o can_v and_o will_v examine_v themselves_o right_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n and_o celebrate_v this_o sacrament_n unto_o a_o commemoration_n of_o the_o death_n of_o chirst_n but_o there_o be_v many_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n that_o either_o can_v or_o will_v not_o â—o_o those_o thing_n and_o these_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v 〈◊〉_d touch_v the_o lord_n supper_n sai_z est_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n appoint_v for_o such_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n as_o be_v already_o baptize_v and_o adult_n and_o do_v examine_v themselves_o 631._o and_o in_o another_o place_n 743._o unto_o this_o question_n to_o who_o be_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o be_v give_v he_o answer_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a member_n of_o the_o church_n who_o can_v examine_v themselves_o and_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o faith_n and_o can_v 〈◊〉_d forth_o the_o lord_n death_n for_o unto_o this_o mystery_n there_o be_v require_v examination_n of_o one_o self_n and_o annunciation_n of_o the_o lord_n death_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o unbeliever_n not_o to_o infant_n not_o to_o distract_a person_n not_o to_o those_o that_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o mystery_n not_o to_o the_o impenitent_a not_o to_o those_o that_o be_v by_o the_o orderly_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n excommunicate_v not_o to_o such_o as_o be_v pollute_v either_o with_o manife_a error_n or_o with_o any_o notorious_a wickedness_n until_o they_o have_v first_o satisfy_v the_o church_n and_o gâ—ve_v testimony_n of_o their_o repentance_n compare_v herewith_o his_o latitude_n for_o baptism_n exores_o grant_v that_o so_o sundry_a of_o thosâ—_n sort_n to_o who_o he_o deny_v the_o lord_n supper_n 50._o â—ezâ—_n concern_v the_o question_n who_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a say_v all_o that_o be_v comprehend_v within_o the_o table_n of_o the_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n 122._o but_o to_o that_o question_n will_v you_o admit_v all_o sort_n to_o the_o lorâ—s_n supper_n he_o answer_v with_o great_a zeâ—l_n for_o 〈◊〉_d and_o care_n therein_o and_o among_o other_o expreâ—â—â—ons_n thâ—se_o say_v he_o who_o 〈◊〉_d age_n show_v they_o not_o to_o be_v of_o ability_n to_o examine_v themselves_o 〈…〉_z not_o as_o unworthy_a but_o as_o not_o yet_o fit_a â—ut_v of_o the_o adult_n no_o one_o be_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d except_o he_o have_v one_o may_v or_o other_o so_o give_v account_n of_o his_o faith_n at_o that_o the_o paster_n may_v probable_o gather_v not_o only_o that_o he_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n but_o also_o that_o he_o be_v indeed_o a_o christian_a â—45_n pelanius_fw-la touch_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n say_v unto_o the_o lord_n supper_n maybe_o admit_v only_a christian_n 〈◊〉_d baptise_a and_o adult_a 55._o and_o such_o as_o can_v examine_v their_o 〈◊〉_d with_o thank_v 〈…〉_z remember_v christ_n and_o show_v forth_o 11.26_o his_o death_n but_o of_o baptism_n all_o that_o be_v in_o covenant_n with_o god_n infant_n bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v geâ—kâ—r_n in_o his_o câ—â—mon_a place_n albert'_v â—hat_n soli_n christiani_n etc._n etc._n only_a christian_n i._n e._n such_o as_o embrace_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n as_o have_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o be_v implant_v into_o the_o christian_a church_n yet_o not_o 〈◊〉_d christian_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o holy_a supper_n but_o according_a to_o paulâ—s_n rule_v these_o only_a 〈◊〉_d examine_v themselves_o 〈◊〉_d the_o lorâ—s_n body_n aâ—â—_n show_v â—â—rib_v the_o lord_n 〈◊〉_d 1_o cor_fw-la 11.26_o 28_o 29._o all_o 〈◊〉_d therefore_o be_v exclude_v who_o either_o will_v not_o 〈…〉_z examine_v themselves_o 18â—_n buâ—_n he_o extend_v baptism_n to_o all_o child_n bear_v of_o one_o or_o both_o christian_n parent_n oâ—_n that_o come_v into_o the_o power_n of_o such_o 582._o the_o like_a may_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n when_o as_o they_o declare_v for_o a_o special_a selection_n of_o those_o who_o they_o admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supperâ—_n see_v the_o confeâ—â—â—â—â—_n of_o bohemia_n harmony_n of_o confess_v pag._n 421._o of_o belgia_n pag._n 432._o of_o ausâ—â—ge_n pag._n 438_o 440._o or_o saxony_n p._n 447_o 44â—_n â—nd_v the_o confession_n of_o scotland_n in_o the_o end_n of_o that_o harmony_n pag._n 24._o compare_v this_o with_o the_o deep_a silence_n of_o they_o â—ll_o touch_v any_o such_o selection_n in_o point_n of_o baptism_n as_o to_o the_o child_n that_o be_v bear_v among_o they_o and_o it_o be_v know_v to_o be_v their_o ordinary_a practice_n to_o baptise_v many_o child_n who_o parent_n they_o will_v not_o admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n all_o which_o with_o many_o more_o testimony_n that_o may_v be_v allege_v do_v abundant_o show_v it_o to_o have_v be_v the_o concurrent_a judgement_n of_o protestant_a divine_n that_o
baptism_n be_v of_o great_a latitude_n than_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o that_o all_o that_o do_v bring_v their_o child_n to_o partake_v of_o the_o former_a 〈◊〉_d nâ—t_v therefore_o themselves_o present_o partake_v of_o thâ—_n latter_a but_o that_o many_o may_v have_v their_o child_n baptise_a and_o yet_o regular_o be_v debar_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n we_o may_v also_o mention_v the_o concurrence_n of_o divine_n with_o we_o in_o particular_a reason_n explication_n and_o assertion_n relate_v to_o â—â—is_n matter_n â—â—_o that_o baptism_n be_v annex_v to_o the_o â—eing_v or_o begin_n of_o faith_n the_o lord_n supper_n to_o the_o special_a exercise_n of_o it_o that_o baptism_n belong_v to_o all_o member_n but_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o soâ—e_a only_o that_o be_v so_o and_o so_o qualify_v that_o all_o visible_a believer_n who_o in_o a_o latitude_n of_o expression_n and_o ecclesiastical_a reputation_n be_v such_o as_o be_v all_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n vrsin_n and_o pareus_n answer_v that_o objection_n against_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n that_o then_o they_o must_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n have_v these_o word_n magnum_fw-la discrimen_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n for_o 1._o baptism_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o entrance_n and_o reception_n into_o the_o church_n but_o 〈◊〉_d supper_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o continuance_n in_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d confirmation_n of_o the_o reception_n 〈◊〉_d make_v 2._o regeneration_n by_o 〈…〉_z 372_o and_o not_o to_o they_o present_o but_o after_o that_o they_o have_v hold_v forth_o a_o confession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n 380._o also_o it_o may_v be_v mind_v that_o it_o be_v the_o currant_n and_o constant_a expression_n of_o our_o divine_n that_o they_o call_v and_o count_v all_o that_o be_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n whether_o infant_n or_o adult_n fideles_fw-la vâ—cati_fw-la faithful_a call_v &c._n &c._n and_o they_o will_v tell_v you_o that_o they_o be_v for_o baptise_v no_o infant_n but_o such_o as_o be_v infant_n fidelium_fw-la the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a or_o of_o believer_n infant_n non_fw-la omnes_fw-la sed_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la fidelium_fw-la i._n e._n baptizatorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la chamier_n tom._n 4._o pag._n 130._o so_o daneus_n infant_n ex_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la i._n e._n baptizaâ—â—s_fw-la nati_fw-la possunt_fw-la baptizari_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la lib._n 5._o de_fw-fr sacram._n pag._n 538._o and_o yet_o they_o do_v not_o look_v at_o all_o these_o no_o not_o at_o all_o the_o adult_n that_o come_v under_o this_o denomination_n and_o who_o child_n they_o baptise_v to_o be_v regular_o admittable_a to_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o plain_o show_v their_o judgement_n to_o be_v that_o all_o adult_n person_n who_o be_v in_o a_o latitude_n of_o expression_n to_o be_v account_v visible_a believer_n or_o in_o ecclesiastical_a reputation_n to_o be_v look_v at_o as_o fideles_fw-la be_v not_o therefore_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n dr._n ames_n account_n that_o a_o person_n may_v be_v a_o believer_n on_o christ_n and_o yet_o be_v unfit_a for_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o sufficient_o instruct_v thereunto_o bellar._n eneru._n tom._n 3._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 1._o and_o he_o express_o say_v that_o church-children_n be_v to_o be_v number_v among_o the_o faithful_a and_o reckon_v they_o to_o have_v the_o beginning_n of_o faith_n yet_o not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o all_o ordinance_n till_o increase_v of_o faith_n appear_v medul_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 32._o thes._n 12_o 13._o mr._n hooker_n take_v it_o for_o grant_v as_o a_o clear_a case_n that_o one_o may_v be_v a_o convert_n sound_o bring_v home_o to_o christ_n and_o yet_o through_o his_o weakness_n not_o able_a to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n aright_o nor_o fit_a to_o partake_v of_o the_o supper_n survey_n part_n 3._o pag._n 16._o and_o in_o his_o sermon_n on_o gen._n 17.23_o pag._n 21._o he_o have_v these_o word_n baptism_n be_v the_o entrance_n into_o christ_n family_n there_o be_v much_o more_o to_o be_v look_v at_o to_o make_v a_o person_n capable_a of_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n a_o man_n must_v be_v able_a to_o examine_v himself_o he_o must_v not_o only_o have_v grace_n but_o growth_n of_o grace_n he_o must_v have_v so_o much_o perfection_n in_o grace_n as_o to_o search_v his_o own_o heart_n and_o he_o must_v be_v able_a to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n or_o else_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n so_o as_o there_o be_v more_o require_v in_o this_o for_o there_o must_v be_v a_o growth_n but_o baptism_n be_v our_o entrance_n and_o the_o low_a degree_n of_o grace_n will_v serve_v here_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n worthy_a hildersham_n on_o psal._n 51.5_o pag._n 257._o say_v the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v say_v to_o be_v 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hildersham_n will_v not_o admit_v such_o as_o these_o who_o be_v bear_v and_o grow_v up_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n to_o the_o lord_n table_n without_o a_o strict_a examination_n not_o only_o of_o their_o knowledge_n and_o life_n but_o of_o their_o spiritual_a estate_n doct._n of_o lord_n supper_n pag._n 8_o 14._o all_o which_o we_o produce_v not_o as_o if_o the_o testimony_n and_o concurrence_n of_o author_n be_v the_o basis_n that_o our_o judgement_n in_o this_o matter_n stand_v upon_o but_o because_o this_o preface_n do_v both_o in_o this_o place_n and_o in_o other_o part_n of_o it_o insinuate_v to_o the_o reader_n as_o if_o authority_n of_o writer_n be_v for_o the_o dissenter_n and_o against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o synod_n which_o be_v far_o from_o be_v so_o the_o contrary_a be_v abundant_o and_o undeniable_o evident_a and_o as_o we_o bottom_n our_o faith_n in_o this_o point_n whole_o and_o only_o upon_o the_o scripture_n and_o do_v refer_v the_o decision_n of_o this_o and_o of_o all_o other_o theological_a controversy_n to_o the_o law_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n so_o we_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v no_o small_a confirmation_n to_o we_o to_o find_v that_o we_o have_v the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o godly-learned_n the_o substance_n of_o the_o congregational-way_n may_v be_v gather_v from_o the_o doctrine_n &_o principle_n of_o our_o best_a and_o able_a reform_v divine_n 43._o which_o do_v not_o a_o little_a confirm_v we_o in_o it_o and_o deliver_v it_o from_o the_o imputation_n of_o novelty_n or_o singularity_n but_o shall_v we_o limit_v baptism_n to_o so_o narrow_a a_o scantling_n as_o our_o brethren_n strive_v for_o we_o shall_v therein_o go_v against_o the_o whole_a stream_n of_o divine_n even_o of_o those_o that_o have_v be_v most_o eminent_a in_o their_o generation_n for_o learning_n holiness_n and_o studiousness_n of_o reformation_n yea_o of_o those_o from_o who_o our_o congregational_a leader_n have_v profess_v to_o receive_v their_o 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of_o spiritual_a qualification_n shall_v now_o hinder_v man_n from_o such_o full_a communion_n who_o yet_o have_v never_o have_v it_o one_o will_v think_v such_o a_o matter_n as_o will_v suffice_v for_o the_o debar_v of_o one_o from_o full_a communion_n who_o have_v former_o enjoy_v it_o may_v suffice_v for_o hinder_v one_o from_o such_o communion_n who_o never_o yet_o be_v partaker_n thereof_o and_o if_o the_o priest_n and_o porter_n in_o israel_n have_v charge_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o partake_v of_o all_o the_o holy_a thing_n unless_o due_o qualify_v for_o the_o same_o notwithstanding_o their_o membership_n in_o fâ—ll_a communion_n with_o the_o church_n for_o so_o the_o reverend_a author_n â—_o 19_o understand_v that_o place_n in_o 2_o chron._n 23_o 19_o do_v it_o not_o much_o more_o follow_v that_o such_o as_o yet_o never_o have_v such_o full_a communion_n may_v just_o be_v keep_v therefrom_o until_o due_o qualiâ—ica_n notwithstanding_o their_o membership_n for_o aught_o we_o 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the_o synod_n describe_v or_o to_o more_o than_o so_o vid._n bucer_n de_fw-fr regno_fw-la christi_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o pag._n 14._o and_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o john_n in_o a_o excellent_a discourse_n concern_v infant_n baptism_n among_o many_o other_o useful_a passage_n he_o have_v these_o follow_v sunt_fw-la quidem_fw-la saâ—e_v inter_fw-la pueros_fw-la reprobi_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v indeed_o often_o among_o child_n some_o that_o be_v reprobate_n but_o while_o that_o do_v not_o appear_v to_o we_o we_o ought_v nevertheless_o to_o reckon_v they_o among_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o we_o shall_v time_n enough_o cast_v they_o out_o when_o by_o their_o evil_a fruit_n they_o shall_v open_o show_v we_o what_o they_o be_v bucer_n in_o joh._n fol._n 43._o and_o in_o another_o place_n quantum_fw-la equidem_fw-la assequi_fw-la possum_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v gather_v say_v he_o the_o