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A64639 Perez Uzza, Or, A serious letter sent to Master Edm. Calamy, January the 17th, 1663 touching his sermon at Aldermanbvry, December the 28th, intimating his close design, and dangerous insinuation against the publick peace : with some queries he is to answer, for the satisfaction of the world. Udall, O. 1663 (1663) Wing U17; ESTC R23555 20,153 32

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granting though I hope you do not think so that Ministers are now weaker then they were must we hear in faith of mans power or rather must not we hear in the faith of the power of God whose strength is most apparent in weakness Ah! will some poor souls say precious Mr. Watson Mr. Calamy sweet Mr. Venning c. what is Paul what is Apollo what is Mr. Calamy what is Mr. Watson but Ministers by whom they believe even as the Lord gave to every man you plant others water God giveth the increase so then neither is he that planteth any thing nor he that watereth but God that giveth the increase tell me seriously whereas there is among you envying and strife and divisions are you not carnal and walk as men for while one saith I am of Paul and another I am of Apollo and another I am of Cephas are ye not carnal O you can never receive the Word of God in the holy Ghost in power and in much assurance while ye have mens persons in admiration receive the faith of God in respect of persons Object 10 I am told you discoursed of the danger of loosing the Ordinances and Ministry of the gospel You know Mr. Calamy we are in danger of loosing nothing but what we never had until these twenty years there is no more danger that I see then that we are like to loose those novelties with which we have been troubled of late that we may gain that ancient way in which we have been happy as you say these hundred years for I am told that you said England hath enjoyed the Gospel this hundred yeas Had England the Gospel in the Episcopal or in the Presbyterian way after the Common-prayer or after the Directory with order and decency or in disorder and confusion Let all the world judge Came the Gospel from you to us who all know are of yesterday or came it not unto you from us We dare not make our selvas of the number or compare our selves with some that commend themselves but they measuring themselves by themselves and comparing themselves among themselves are not wise 2 Cor. 10.12 13 14. We boast not of things without our measure that is of other mens labours only we hoped your ingenuity would have acknowledged that the Gospel Ordinances are not in any danger by your late removal for you know you found Gospel Ordinances here when you came into the world and I hope they may be found here after you are gone hence and are seen no more O do a few Ministers think that their removing is the removing of the Gospel that it should enter into a few mens hearts that they uphold the Church O if King Charles could say when he was advised to grant what he could to save upon which he Church depended God forbid that the Church of God should depend upon a mortalman O how much more may you say that you were nourished and brought up by the Church and depended upon it rather then it upon you some indeed preach Christ out of contention some you will say for gain notwithstanding Christ is preached and you may rejoyce Ob. 11. One reason they say you gave for Christians care for the Ark was their love to the place of Gods presence but do your people love the habitation of Gods house or rather this or that person that ministre●h there do they desire to dwell in the house of God to see the beauty of the Lord or to hear a friend judge you oh these things ought not to be If they love the Church it is as it was these many years if they love a party we know what you mean by the Ark. Obj. 12. You said as Mr. Cartwright used to say for Sion sake I will not hold my tongue O alas Mr. Calamy when the Government of the Church to which you they say swore obedience was subverted when 3000. Orthodox men were silenced sequestred and undone when the ancient worship of God was abolished which you once used for you know you and I were once of a judgment and practice when the Church was in the greatest danger that it hath been since the Reformation you were silent now a few opinions of yours about a few garments gestures words and other small formalities are not allowed a few men wedded to these opinions will not preach because they are not allowed you cannot be silent be not deceived God is not mocked Obj. 13. They say you said a child of God was careful of the Ark because of his interest therein by his care we might know the children of God here Mr. Calamy I am afraid poor souls may wrest the Scripture to their own damnation if you mean by the Ask of God the Church of God with his Ordinances after the primitive and universal all good take care of it and the King and Parliament at this time take care to establish it If you mean only your own way as every party cry up their own way for the only way of God and the way of others of the separation and make it a sign of a Child of God to be careful of you O Sir what a stone of stumbling do you cast before all the ages of the Church where there was one that knew much lesse was careful for this way But I hope you will not say Then it is a certain sign there were but few or none that were the children of God in those ages O Sir to be of a Religion that saves only a party is not a sign of the Child of God but of a man of contention O let me live and die in that Religion which if not neglected may save the world Object 14. You said I am informed That the Ordinances of God are the treasures of a Christian and the losse of them cannot but trouble them The Ordinances of God are Reading Hearing Sacraments and Prayer Common prayer in a wholesome form of sound words to which all could say Amen was neglected for mens private notion to which very few could say Amen Reading was quite disufed preaching the Gospel was turned to the preaching of Opinions and Parties and the Sacrament of Baptisme allowed to few and that of the Lords Supper denyed almost to all O Ely would have trembled at these things the wayes of Sion God knows mourned the ancient Ministers of Christ were driven into corners and were you troubled did you lay it to heart these are restored what alles you now Object 15. Christ Jesus you said is the joy of Christians and therefore when Christ is departing they cannot but be much troubled at it O Mr. Calamy take heed of perswading people that the advancing of this or that party is the advancing of Christ or that the discountenancing of them is the departing of Christ If any man say ●o here is Christ or there or here he is departed or there O teach poor people not to believe them for there shall arise
false Christs and false prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders insomuch that if it were possible they shall deceive the very Elect. And I pray teach them wherefore if they shall say unto you behold he is in the desert go not forth behold he is in the secret chambers or meetings believe it not Object 16. The people of God you said were much troubled because of the misery of a nation when the Ark is departed A Gentleman to whom words of this nature were communicated and I am loath to write this of my self that where is you said ●o be to that nation when the Ark is gone said wo be to that nation where the Ark of Presbytery for it s followed and attended with war sedition bloud ruine and confusion and O that sad experience did not confirm this in England Scotland and other places Insomuch that the foreign Churches the men of Ashdod of the Ark say this way shall not abide with us let it be carried about to Gath to other Churches as Scotland and in those places it was attended with very great destruction and they send it to England and the English cried out they have brought this way hither to slay us and our people and the King Lords and Commons in Parliament say send this way to its own place that it slay us not and our people for there was a deadly destruction throughout the whole Country that came along with it and the hand of God was very heavy here And the cry of the Countrey went up to heaven destruction and misery saith he is in their way and the way of peace have they not known Obj. 17. I was glad indeed to hear you say That the people of God must needs tremble when the Ark is in danger because of their accessariness to the loosing of the Ark for to deal plainly with you is the Church in danger your disturbances cause it doth Popery break in upon us the breaches you made upon Law and Government open the way to it doth prophanenesse prevail O you have made serious holiness odious by goodly pretences and unworthy practices doth not the Magistrate watch over Papists It s because your dangerous attempts makes him wholly intent upon you doth he indulge them you say men must have liberty of conscience do we want Ministers why did you withdraw your selves is the nation divided against it self who hath occasioned it have we lost our first love why do you by depraving the first Reformation cause us to loose our first love Do the people run beadlong to the Garlick and Onions of Egypt you mean Popery and have not you forced them to do so by crying down every thing that was established for Popery that the people have nothing upon which they may settle themselves but Popery if they stay with us they are in Babylon say your party if they go over to you you are antichristian say the poor Libertines where ever they are in an orderly established way they are in Popery and if all that is orderly and settled be Popery to hear Papists we will go if all decent worship and regular Government be Popery the Popish people shall be my people their God shall be my God where they die I will die and there be buried do poor discontented souls desire to return to the Church of Rome Is it not because they of the separation say there is no true Church in England Object 18. But you were plain it seemes at last and told them it must not be denyed but the Arke was in danger to be lost If you meane Presbytery which we never had established there is no harmedone If you meane the Church of England with her Doctrine Discipline Worship Rites and Ceremonies as established by Law it 's well you have forewarned us the King and Parliament I hope will take you at your words and will take care to secure the Church upon such foundations as the Gates of Hell cannot prevaile against well Sir I leave with you that of Eccl. 3.11 with you He hath made every thing beautifull in his season yea he hath set the World in thine heart so that no Man can find out the work that God maketh from the begining to the end who know what is good for a Man in this life all the dayes of his vaine life which he spendeth as a shadow for who can tell a Man what shall be after him under the Sun the thing that hath been it is that which shall be and that which is done is that which shall be done and Sir there is no new thing under the Sun is there any thing whereof it may be said be hold this is new it hath been already of old Time which was before us Mr. Calamy I know whatever God doeth it shall be for ever nothing can be put to it nor any thing taken from it and God doth it that men should fear before him That which hath been is now and that which is to be hath already been and God requireth that which was past Object 19. I was informed you told your people that in their own concernments they were very sensible But in the concernments of Religion very careless If you intended to raise a sedition which I hope you did not I am sure the providence of God never called you to it you could not take a better course then to add to civill grievances which you know the people murmure against Religious jealousies and feares O when Religion which should restraine the multitude provokes them to sedition to what excesse of riot do they run 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Naz. inde furor vulgo its naturall for men to think nothing little in the case of Religion so that they can hardly perswade themselves they can be angry enough in the case of a Diety a discreet man will never stirre up the people in the defence of any point of Religion for their force when stirred up will destroy all religion you know the late popular tumults were not so easily ellayed as they were raised by you you know when the multitude had served your humours in pulling down Episcopacy they served their in overthrowing you It 's more proper to tell the people of their duty then of their danger our businesse is to discover to the people the state of their souls let those that are in Authority shew them the state of the Government as who attend upon this very thing and for the people let them stand still and see the salvation of God let them peaceably walk with God and God will watch over them let them keep Religion every one in his heart and Religion will keep its self in the Church Object 20. I hear you said We had enjoyed the Gospell these hundred yeares and above It 's true we enjoyned the Gospell these 1400. yeares as we can make it appear against the Papists from the several men that in all ages were eminent for their adherence