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Ignorance and error reproved being an answer to some queries that one John Reynolds wrote to two of the people called Quakers / by Thomas Taylor.
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Taylor, Thomas, 1618-1682.
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upon thee to be Teacher of others but to set down thy Queries themselves or so much of them as is the substance of the whole Qu. 14. And thy fourteenth Query is Had not the Saints in Scripture-times their set places for publick Worship as well as we Had they not their Temple 1 Chron. 6. which Christ calls his Fathers House of Prayer and whips the Buyers and Sellers out of it c. Answ. To which I answer You have indeed an outward Temple or House made with Hands to Worship in of your own devizeing the Old Popish Mass-house and so cannot be called the Fathers House of Prayer so well as the Jews was for the Temple at Jerusalem was made by God's Appointment for the outward Circumcission to Worship in during the Law as a Figure of Christ's Body to be Magnified and therefore he whipt Buyers and Sellers then out of the Figure as he doth now out of the Substance but you have not only the Enemies Nature in you but you have brought forth his Work into open view in your outward Temples also which were never Built by God's Command and so there is Buying and Selling amongst you as was amongst them as every Eye seeth For there you Men made Priests sell Words the Words out of dead Books to the People and they give you their Money Glebe-land and Tythes for them O filthy Merchandize The Lord hath shaken his Hand at your dishonest Gain and is whipping out such Merchants by his Powerful Truth out of his House and your dead Works which you sell at so dear a Rate in your Stone-houses which you call Churches shall no Child of Light ever buy of you For the true Bread of God his free Gift is now witnessed Praises for ever One sort of Merchant Priests sell their Sermons and Mass to the People for Money another sort their Common-Prayer and Sermons and the third their Sermons and Directory And thou John Reynolds pleadest also for Synagogues and Pulpits and when thou hast set down Scriptures that tell of the Jewish Temple Synagogues and Pulpit thou askest if Christ and his Apostles did not report to these places to instruct the People To which I answer First That whilst the Jewish People stood Christ and his Apostles did sometimes go into their Temple and Synagogues to Preach the Gospel of the Kingdom and so an end of those things and to bring them out of these things which they and you so much dote on and plead for but they did never Command Christians to Build such amongst them but told them Their Bodies were the Temples of God 1 Cor. 3. and that those that abide in the Faith were the House of God Heb. 2. And these Christians never so confined themselves or others to any such place for the Exercise of their Conscience in the Worship of God but met as the Lord Jesus and his Apostles did much less did they stir up the Magistrate and drive the Jews out of their Temple and Synagogues and the Gentiles out of theirs that so they might creep into their Houses and under another Form of Worship live upon the Jewish Priests Tythes Offerings c. nor upon the Maintenance of the Idolatrous Priests of Diana and the like Idols as you Priests to the shame of your Profession have done and do at this day What have you driven the Papists out of their Mass-houses and do live upon their Priests Maintenance of Tythes Glebe-lands Smoke-mony Garden-pence Handmony and the rest of their Foolish things What cannot a Man be Born Marry Live nor Die but you must have Mony for it O Horrible and Filthy thing stop your Mouths for ever for your Folly is manifest to all and you can proceed no further And so you Priests of the last Order called Presbyters did not you drive out the Prelates out of their Houses which they had gotten from the Papists and there you sate down Feeding upon the Spoil of the People as your Fathers had done and now think much that you are driven out again And thus you fight with and drive out one another like wild Beasts striving each of you to get Power of others to be great in the Earth and do what you will in your fat Pastures But as I said the Lord is arisen to whip you all out and to pull down your Nests and to restore all things to their Primitive Purity as in the beginning before the Temples Tythes Pulpits and such things were Secondly I consider that though I read that Christ and his Apostles went amongst the People in their Temple and Synagogues as we do at this day to Preach the end of these things and so to bring People to the Word that was in the Beginning before all things that the Worship might be in Spirit and Truth as it ought to be John 4. Yet I never read that either Christ or his Apostles got up into their Pulpit nor ever Commanded his to perk up into a Pulpit of Wood over the People as a Master of a Synagogue to tell his Thoughts of the Letter as you do For though Ezra a Priest of the Law had his Pulpit or Tower of Wood to Read or Expound the Letter in in those days before the Life was manifest yet now the Life Christ Jesus is arisen whose Voice in the Heart and in all places is to be heard without a Pulpit and without Mony and without Price and the Apostles Preached this Gospel in Towns and Countries where neither Temple Synagogue nor Pulpit was but Tumults rather and so the Gospel is not a thing that will set up its Servants in Worldly Honour but indeed the contrary which he that hath an Ear may hear but the Wicked is so Proud in Heart that neither Preacher nor Professor amongst them will stoop to the simplicity of it The next thing Considerable in this Query is thy twisting and striving to keep up the Honour of the old Mass-house however if it be but a Name though it want the Nature yet if thou canst save that thou thinkest better that than nothing and say'st What though the Saints of God are called the Church yet that cannot hinder the House where the Church meets from being called a Church A Profound Reasoning What is this the Fruit of your cried up Vniversities What must every Place where any People meet be called by the Name of that People What Logick is this Surely the Wisdom of the World makes haste into its Nothing again God is utterly Confounding it Do you call the place where the Parliament or Privy Council sit the Parliament or Privy Council Do you call a Barn or such a moon place where the Saints of God now a-days often meet by the Name of a Church If we should Reason for the places where we meet as you do for yours surely you would Laugh at us and might then well call us filly Women and Seducers indeed But to go on thou bringest a Scripture as though
if you could Preach freely that is without a set or forced maintenance in the state where you are that would not at all commend you to God or his People For you have run and God never sent you and therefore you remain so ignorant of him and profit not them that follow you for when did Christ bid you go to the Universities of the World to learn him there And when did he bid you go to such a place and such a place and there sit down and Eat the Fat and Cloath with the Wooll and Preach the Thoughts of your vain Hearts as you have done and would do and be guarded by the Magistrates Power that none should speak to you in your high Places nor going nor coming from thence O call to mind the day of your fulness and of your Pride the same measme you mete to others is God measuring to you you must be broken to pieces because you turn not to the Lord for all this And to the despised thing the Light in your Conscience you must come and how before it as others have done before you be healed and if it give you a word to speak you may speak it otherwise you must be silent or you perish The Lord is arisen and so if indeed you can kiss his Rod you may find Mercy but if you still go on justifying your selves in his sight you shall certainly moulder to nothing the Lord hath said it who is daily gathering his Lambs out of the Mouths of all Devourers Glory to his Name for ever But what Testimony of Jesus can you either give or suffer for who have so Vilified and Reproached the Spirit of Prophesie in Sons and Daughters in Servants and Handmaids in these Days For the Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophesie And now all People I shall lay before you a little more the Condition of this John Reynolds and such like boasting Men who now thus cry up themselves for suffering Ministers of Christ as to this particular thing In the former times before the Wars when the Bishops had Rule there were some such that could not conform to all the Fooleries of those Days and so could not enjoy their fat Benefices though they loved them well enough and so instead of suffering in Old-England fled into New-England to avoid the Cross and so in process of time it came to pass that they got the Magistrates on their side there and then their Old Wolfish Hearts being still in them they fell on Persecuting the Servants of God that came amongst them to witness to Truth insomuch that of late years they have sucked the Blood of several of our Dear Members in Christ Three they hanged on a Tree cut the Ears of others Tortur'd the Bodies of many with cruel Whippings spoiled the Goods of many and Banished others for no other thing but for owning the Truth as it is in Jesus and meeting to wait upon him Qu. 8. The Eighth and next Query is such a vain and empty one that the very setting of it down will be in great measure an answer to it and it is this If there be no honest Men in the World that are not Quakers then is it not certain that no honest Men ever turned Quakers Then is it not certain that none but the Wicked ever turned from us and then where is our shame Again if all are Graceless Persons that are not Quakers then how can any Man turn Quaker if he will not first acknowledge himself a Wicked and Graceless Wretch Answ. O Crooked Twining Twisting Serpent How Cunning and Crafty wouldst thou here appear in thy vain Philosophy and false Science to cast a Mist before the Eyes of the Simple Yet Praised be the Lord the least Child of Light sees thee well and the Seed of the Woman shall bruise thy Head and thou shalt not proceed far but thy Folly shall be manifest to all as the Sorceries of Jannes and Jambres thy Fathers were for the Lord is already at work the second time to deliver his Israel out of Egypt and no Weapon formed against his Seed shall ever prosper but the Horse and his Rider shall fall and the Beast and False Prophet shall be taken alive and cast into the Pit and Everlasting praises shall be Sung to the Lord God Almighty by the Lambs of his Holy Fold as it is in Zion this day But let us see how this reaoning of thine would have helped the Jews and the Gentiles in the first times of the Gospel against the Christians and so setting down thy words for them only instead of Quaker putting in the word Christian thus If there are no honest Men in the World that are not Christians then is it not certain that no honest Man ever turned Christian and if so where is their Glorying And if all are wicked that are not Christians then is it not certain that none but the Wicked did ever turn from us and where is our Shame Again If all are Graceless persons that are not Christians then is it not certain that none but the Wicked did ever turn from us then where is our Shame Would this have been good Reasoning either to have disproved the Christians Doctrine withal or to have kept the unbelieving Jews and Gentiles in a safe Condition where they stood Nay all must bow to the Son of God in his rising and going forth for his going forth is prepared as the Sun in the Morning who rejoyceth as a Gyant to run his Course and to this Just One must every Knee bow and Tongue confess for his Way is in his Light Shining more and more until it be high Noon and perfect Day And the Gentiles though as honest as Cornelius Acts 10. and the Jew though as blameless concerning the Law as Paul in his first state was Phil. 3. must bow to him Yea further Let all the Angels of God Worship him But as for the Worlds Inhabitants both Honest and Wicked we know that the whole World lieth in Wickedness And so before you turn such Christians as quake and tremble at God's Word and work out their Salvation in Fear and Trembling you must be content to own your selves to be little less than Dishonest Wicked and Graceless Wretches though into the Truth Sinful Flesh and Blood cannot enter and though you will not now own the Grace of God to be your Teacher and so in that respect may be called Graceless yet you will one day know that the Grace of God which brings Salvation and would have taught you did appear unto you all and so God will be clear of all your Blood and your Destruction will be of your selves and so because you have not received this manifest Truth the Grace of God to be your Teacher therefore me you given up to believe Lies as is manifest Qu. 9. Thy Ninth and next Question is about Ordination and then Queries To what purpose did the Apostles Evangelists and Presbyters