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A33252 Truth with time, or, Certain reasons proving that none of the seven last plagues or vials are yet poured out neither will the time of their pouring out begin till after the rising of the two witnesses and the fourty months of the Beast's reign be expired : likewise an answer to the said reasons with a reply further the author hath here set down (in a brief exposition) his opinion of the first vial / by John Canne. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1656 (1656) Wing C443A; ESTC R23893 78,059 119

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out_o the_o vial_n upon_o the_o beast_n viz._n the_o earth_n or_o gross_a element_n repl._n this_o be_v no_o more_o though_o more_o word_n than_o what_o be_v say_v before_o i_o shall_v be_v the_o brief_a 1._o whatsoever_o be_v do_v by_o waldo_n grosted_a luther_n etc._n etc._n against_o pope_n cardinal_n prelate_n priest_n be_v no_o other_o victory_n then_o in_o the_o sense_n i_o name_v before_o 2._o neither_o do_v they_o find_v fault_n with_o the_o place_n office_n and_o calling_n of_o such_o man_n though_o unlawful_a and_o antichristian_a but_o for_o some_o abuse_n and_o miscarriage_n therein_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o armachan_n grosted_a and_o other_o be_v prelate_n priest_n mass-priest_n and_o never_o renounce_v their_o call_v so_o 3_o for_o many_o of_o the_o particular_n here_o set_v down_o they_o bear_v no_o testimony_n
be_v mingle_v with_o fire_n it_o be_v not_o to_o denote_v as_o i_o conceive_v any_o struggle_v of_o the_o saint_n with_o the_o beast_n nor_o hot_a jar_n and_o contention_n among_o themselves_o but_o that_o all_o the_o corrupt_a and_o rot_a device_n of_o the_o beast_n shall_v be_v as_o dross_n in_o a_o furnace_n utter_o consume_v object_n it_o be_v say_v till_o the_o seven_o plague_n of_o the_o seven_o angel_n be_v fulfil_v then_o man_n afterward_o be_v able_a to_o enter_v into_o the_o temple_n i_o answer_v the_o particular_a until_o be_v often_o take_v for_o never_o gen._n 8.7_o &_o 28.15_o 1_o sam._n 15.3_o 2_o sam._n 6.23_o matth._n 1.25_o so_o here_o 2._o for_o your_o sense_n of_o the_o place_n if_o i_o understand_v it_o it_o make_v a_o difference_n between_o saint_n as_o some_o superior_a other_o inferior_a but_o i_o think_v all_o saint_n so_o judge_v and_o know_v as_o angel_n shall_v enter_v etc._n etc._n neither_o will_v there_o be_v any_o such_o difference_n among_o the_o people_n of_o god_n after_o the_o vial_n begin_v answ_n and_o 4._o no_o man_n as_o then_o without_o the_o temple_n yet_o 5._o i_o think_v it_o refer_v to_o the_o bless_a new-jerusalem-state_n of_o 1000_o year_n rev._n 20_o 21_o &_o 22._o which_o be_v not_o begin_v till_o after_o the_o seven_o plague_n and_o therefore_o till_o then_o none_o can_v enter_v into_o it_o repl._n 1_o doubtless_o many_o who_o be_v without_o when_o the_o temple_n be_v first_o fill_v with_o the_o glory_n of_o the_o lord_n shall_v yet_o enter_v in_o before_o the_o vial_n be_v pour_v out_o for_o the_o everlasting_a gospel_n be_v to_o be_v preach_v upon_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o witness_n whereby_o many_o will_v be_v call_v out_o of_o babylon_n and_o other_o gentile_n from_o their_o idol_n and_o vanity_n to_o the_o faith_n and_o obedience_n of_o the_o gospel_n 2._o for_o refer_v it_o to_o the_o new-jerusalem-state_n it_o seem_v to_o have_v no_o foot_n in_o the_o text_n for_o the_o holy_a ghost_n speak_v there_o of_o no_o new_a temple_n or_o state_n but_o direct_o of_o that_o temple_n in_o which_o the_o seven_o angel_n then_o be_v beside_o in_o my_o opinion_n so_o to_o take_v it_o it_o be_v far_o below_o the_o stile_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o to_o say_v the_o new-jerusalem-state_n will_v not_o begin_v till_o after_o the_o seven_o plague_n it_o be_v a_o truth_n indeed_o but_o how_o as_o if_o a_o traveller_n be_v tell_v that_o his_o journeying_n must_v be_v finish_v before_o he_o can_v be_v at_o home_n or_o a_o soldier_n till_o the_o enemy_n be_v subdue_v he_o be_v not_o to_o have_v the_o glory_n and_o honour_n of_o the_o victory_n answ_n 6._o shall_v we_o concede_fw-la to_o your_o argument_n the_o edge_n thereof_o will_v turn_v as_o much_o against_o your_o own_o opinion_n and_o apprehension_n see_v none_o can_v enter_v in_o as_o you_o grant_v till_o the_o temple_n be_v open_v rev._n 11.19_o which_o be_v after_o the_o seven_o trumpet_n have_v sound_v the_o scripture_n you_o quote_v rev._n 15.5_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o tabernacle_n of_o the_o testimony_n whence_o the_o vial_n go_v out_o indeed_o but_o not_o out_o of_o this_o temple_n which_o be_v not_o open_v till_o after_o all_o the_o seven_o plague_n of_o the_o seven_o angel_n be_v fulfil_v as_o that_o text_n express_v in_o terminis_fw-la repl._n 1_o how_o the_o reason_n shall_v be_v against_o myself_o i_o see_v not_o indeed_o my_o opinion_n be_v that_o both_o place_n as_o i_o say_v before_o relate_v to_o one_o time_n and_o take_v their_o beginning_n before_o the_o vial_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o mention_n of_o a_o tabernacle_n or_o temple_n open_v in_o heaven_n after_o the_o vial_n be_v pour_v out_o though_o you_o say_v that_o text_n express_v it_o in_o terminis_fw-la for_o rev._n 16.17_o 18._o which_o you_o often_o quote_v speak_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o that_o there_o come_v a_o great_a voice_n out_o of_o the_o temple_n of_o heaven_n not_o say_v to_o be_v then_o open_v as_o rev._n 11.19_o &_o 15.5_o because_o it_o be_v not_o open_v at_o that_o time_n but_o long_o before_o but_o 2._o this_o be_v true_a in_o rev._n 19.11_o heaven_n be_v say_v to_o be_v open_v which_o i_o take_v to_o be_v between_o the_o six_o and_o seven_o vial_n signify_v a_o most_o glorious_a success_n of_o the_o everlasting_a gospel_n partly_o through_o the_o light_n which_o come_v from_o the_o ark_n rev._n 11.19_o and_o the_o tabernacle_n of_o the_o testimony_n chap._n 15.5_o open_a before_o and_o partly_o through_o the_o fall_n of_o the_o western_a babylon_n chap._n 18._o answ_n so_o that_o neither_o by_o this_o nor_o any_o of_o your_o former_a reason_n be_v my_o faith_n in_o the_o vial_n begin_v stir_v or_o enervate_v but_o rather_o ratify_v for_o the_o present_a without_o i_o see_v more_o than_o i_o do_v and_o be_o of_o mr._n tilling_n opinion_n that_o the_o vial_n be_v begin_v and_o that_o for_o these_o reason_n repl._n i_o know_v it_o be_v mr._n tilling_n opinion_n so_o brightman_n pareus_n mede_n and_o cotton_n and_o burton_n cotton_n many_o other_o which_o i_o have_v see_v and_o it_o be_v i_o think_v the_o opinion_n of_o most_o man_n still_o who_o learning_n and_o godliness_n i_o do_v willing_o acknowledge_v and_o do_v honour_v the_o very_a name_n of_o some_o of_o they_o yet_o neither_o do_v i_o think_v they_o so_o learned_a but_o they_o may_v err_v nor_o so_o godly_a as_o in_o all_o thing_n to_o be_v follow_v this_o reverence_n every_o man_n stand_v bind_v to_o give_v to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n in_o other_o man_n that_o in_o his_o difference_n from_o they_o he_o be_v not_o sudden_o or_o easy_o persuade_v but_o be_v jealous_a of_o his_o own_o heart_n he_o undertake_v the_o examination_n of_o thing_n and_o so_o proceed_v with_o fear_n and_o tremble_a and_o so_o have_v try_v all_o thing_n hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a 1_o thes_n 5.21_o so_o shall_v he_o neither_o wrong_n the_o grace_n of_o god_n in_o himself_o nor_o in_o other_o but_o on_o the_o other_o side_n for_o a_o man_n 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truth_n of_o it_o now_o it_o be_v possible_a my_o case_n here_o may_v be_v the_o case_n of_o other_o man_n answ_n 1._o because_o the_o two_o witness_n in_o their_o sackcloth-condition_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o 42_o month_n before_o their_o slaughter_n or_o rise_v pour_v out_o plague_n or_o smite_v with_o plague_n rev._n 11.5_o 6._o but_o the_o vial_n be_v such_o plague_n rev._n 15._o therefore_o they_o pour_v out_o vial_n 2._o because_o the_o very_a same_o subject_n of_o the_o witness_n smite_v with_o plague_n rev._n 11.5_o 6._o be_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o angel_n vial_n rev._n 16.1_o 2_o 3._o viz._n earth_n water_n turn_v into_o blood_n and_o express_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o the_o very_a same_o phrase_n repl._n we_o have_v answer_v this_o before_o yet_o far_a thus_o the_o place_n have_v no_o such_o full_a agreement_n as_o be_v pretend_v for_o 1._o in_o rev._n 11._o water_n there_o be_v before_o earth_n but_o in_o chap._n 16._o there_o earth_n be_v before_o the_o 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